MOMOLAND: Victims of Success

I have wanted to talk about MOMOLANd for a while now and finally got to it. Also please don’t attack the title I struggled a lot to pick one
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
00:35 Finding Momoland
1:20 Momolands Career
7:59 The Start of a New Era
9:14 Sajaegi Accusations
11:55 Plagarism Accusations
15:41 Rude Behaviour Accusations
21:20 Nancy
24:23 Member Hiatuses
25:47 The Truth of Finding Momoland
34:07 Silenced
38:16 MLD’s Questionable Actions
40:24 Theories
42:14 They Are Still Human
46:22 Outro

[@jihoonscarat]

I wanted to add a small comment. There are other issues I just couldn’t touch on, like the twitter bullying accusations within the group that I didn’t feel comfortable touching on as there is no proof, we don’t know the whole story, some of the “proof” is just reaching and so on. So touching on those topics was something I was not comfortable with. But I do want to let you guys know I am aware there are some things I didn’t talk about but as I say at the end, I hope I touched on the most important stuff.

[@thek-nerd3143]

Yeah

[@BRK5813]

what accusations?

[@Anna-ir7qu]

Can you please make a video on gidle in the future

[@jihoonscarat]

I can try for sure!

[@jihoonscarat]

There are accusations that the Momoland members bullied the members that left

[@ayiee]

"ThEy'rE CoPYINg!!!!" The producer who made both songs: 👁️👄👁️

[@ayloshmono]

The thing with Bboom Bboom is that it was actually stolen from a Russian group called Serebro. The song is "Mi mi mi". But it's not the members' fault and they don't deserve the hate they are getting. At this point people don't know why they're hating, they are just jumping on the bandwagon as soon as they hear the name Momoland. I'm so sorry for them. Their songs are actually bops, especially the last ones.

[@RatsRatsIsthebest]

@@ayloshmono ngl I think booom boom and bam sound the same

[@Helios824]

Shinsadong tiger made this song for them

[@maravilhoso3280]

@L L sampled, is usually with permission... so I would say stolen lol and I’m a momoland Stan

[@Helios824]

For me I love yeonwoo and tae ha

[@oomay1925]

It's funny that momoland was accused of being disrespectful for not bowing to BTS by international fans, but most Korean fans did not actually care. Idk why all these international fans feel like they know more about bowing and Asian etiquette/courtesy more than actual Koreans

[@johnchrysostomibarra]

Exactly

[@lgt_jne]

They were all hating on Momoland that time 🙄

[@kaylamae3007]

They are absolutely delusional. They hate on momoland for no reason whatsoever.

[@ongakira]

y’all forget that army is a big fandom and there are some ppl in there who are toxic, huh ? and are you korean ?

[@lgt_jne]

@@ongakira yeah we know that

[@loonachuufanboy6690]

About plagiarism kpop fans tend to forget most groups share their composers.

[@jihoonscarat]

lmao yeah i love when people accuse a group of copying another group when they are using the same genre/trend/composer 😂

[@ithinkmynameisjamie8861]

Tbh I think it makes the producers themselves even worse since they only know how to make one type of song, even if producers have their own "style" they should be making distinctly different songs for each group they work for

[@Helios824]

For me producer who made bboom bboom and baam is shinsadong tiger

[@Helios824]

Go check it out

[@yothiga]

It's hard to shield the bboom bboom plagiarism when they dance MiMiMi in the showcase before they release the single plus the original singer also post about it on her instagram.

[@warnerr1074]

Momolands backlash is just an example of how toxic our community has become.

[@xxalxysiaxx]

Fr, it’s so disappointing and sad to see

[@robertalys8280]

Always have been

[@Helios824]

Oh geez

[@Helios824]

JESUS christ BRO

[@night756]

Conclusion: momoland didn't deserve the hate that they had and have until this day and they deserve more love!

[@Helios824]

For me the group needs to be how to be respect and support any other idol Not being rude and jealousy The group needs to be respected

[@imjustthin4698]

@@Helios824 momoland is never rude

[@jiayi5829]

@@imjustthin4698 he a troll ignore him , he not serious lol

[@imjustthin4698]

@@jiayi5829 okie

[@Helios824]

I AM NOT FUCKING TROLLING 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@sophie7780]

i really wish fandoms would realize that when you're not a fan of an artist or a group, you can just be quiet. it costs zero dollars. it's heartbreaking to see how all of these girls have been treated by the public and by their company, sometimes for no reason whatsoever

[@ninaggets791]

Ikr, just because they cant like it, they will start to spread hate like tf?

[@Helios824]

Yeah kinda hurt my heart💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

[@ahmadsyukribaraqbah5185]

Insecurity for their idol caused it😥they can't handle any other group more great than their idols so they drag down every possible rival😅

[@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062]

Is it that hard to not hate on other groups? It's not like they killed their moms or something, seriously haters these days are why I lose hope in humanity 😒

[@MagicalWaterLight]

I feel like hating MOMOLAND has become a personality trait of some.. absolutely ridiculous, they deserve love & support only!

[@Metroid250]

Just shows how bland and uninteresting many people are. It's sad to see that people need to be vicious to make up for their monotonous character

[@Helios824]

The haters are continuing to hate them this is sad 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔

[@Helios824]

MY FEELING ARE BROKE 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔

[@norah672]

Momoland is an easy group to dig at. They're from a small incompetent company with a small fandom. They don't really have any big platforms to defend themselves on and the ones they do have (their personal platform) they aren't allowed to use to defend themselves. This happened in 2018/19 and is happening again now with the whole bullying scandal. Regardless if there is any merit to those accusations, the "proof" being brought up are distorted and cherry picked. They get stuff pinned on them that aren't even true most of the time. Momoland is one of the most unlucky group in kpop because their music isn't appreciated but their scandals and misfortunes are always highlighted. It kinda reminds me of Ladies Code and I hate that for them. At this point I just want MLD to give them their first full album (because that's what's they deserve after years of sololy funding that company) and disband them. The girls are better off separate and not part of this weird sideshow in the kpop community. They deserve peace and a company that actually cares and manages them correctly.

[@phuongthaovu7935]

I can't not agree more :)

[@Helios824]

Good question BRO 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@cupidream9702]

yeah and also , i’ve seen people who love Ahin but only for her looks. i’ve noticed this with a lot of groups actually, they just like one person bc of their looks. like april and naeun, weki meki and doyeon, astro and eunwoo etc. i wish they could actually check their music out :(

[@electricchair1909]

*me waiting for taeha to reunite with the other members under a different company*

[@SarahGamer-ty1uj]

agreed so much

[@lifeissobeautiful6404]

2018 was truly Momoland's year. They were competing with the likes of TWICE and were getting all the big awards but then their company and the fake scandals just had to come and fawk everything up. (Just like Pristin) And now look at them. I just hate it. They are one of those kpop groups who truly deserved better in every way possible😕

[@samsungphone7579]

Bboom Bboom brings them to fame.

[@Helios824]

Just FRICKING one SONG

[@Helios824]

2018 it's worst year to me

[@zigzag00]

@@Helios824 no luv, bboom bboom, baam, and I'm so hot were all successful comebacks :) Thumbs up was a little successful since it DID have 1 win on mcountdown and it has over 50+ million views!!

[@Helios824]

This is my opinion

[@cheezellopp9865]

A quick note on the homophobia accusations towards Nancy: being straight=\=being homophobic. It's clear she said nothing bashing LGBTQ members and only expressed her own sexuality. Instead of calling idols homophobic when they don't placate shipping fantasies, fans should realize how creepy they can be when they ship real life people together. It very well may make other idols uncomfortable, regardless of their sexuality, Nancy just isn't hiding it.

[@nihilongongo]

She didnt say im straight, she said im not a boy. So yeah that was kinda homophobic if you take it literally

[@justanoldsnufkin9747]

@@nihilongongo then use your mind. She just expressed her sexuality. Or maybe that was just a joke that she wouldn't date Daisy. Btw why do we pick up on tiny little things some people did and make a disaster out of it

[@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062]

@@nihilongongo it can sound homophobic but it's actually not, she's literally saying she isn't a boy which is true, if you think all idols who have answered those "if you were a boy/girl which member would you date?" are either bi/gay/lesbian then Idk what's going on in you mind

[@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062]

@@justanoldsnufkin9747 one word:Twitter

[@alessaziergener7861]

@@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 that's why it really isn't a place to share opinions, people who use twitter are called twittards at some point and we all know why, kpop stans are one of the most superior twittards apparently

[@veryberry1486]

Kinda random but I think the debut song is soooo addicing

[@silvanadelcarpio4249]

same! i loved it

[@oreodestroyer2015]

sameee their debut is my favorite song from Momoland

[@dandelion9625]

listen to their sidetrack too.

[@night756]

I agree sooo much with this

[@otokouno]

@@dandelion9625 true. "FLY" is my favorite song from them

[@cupidream9702]

unrelated but i think it’s cute how daisy and her sister lily are both named after flowers

[@bluessarah2208]

I hate how hard some people are with female groups.

[@xythiera7255]

Not less hard then with boy groups. Kpop has insane competition. There is no head pading just becouse you are a girl.

[@Helios824]

Sometimes people try to expose what wrong with them because they can't handle what's rigth ABOUT the girl group

[@cloudydaysloveme17]

@@xythiera7255 if you’re a loop stan, I think you know as well as I do that boy groups get more attention and passes than ggs do

[@izzyyyyy8998]

@@xythiera7255 only in your dreams... In reality, boy groups have more people defending them and girlgroups face harsher hate comments from the community. Like, if Irene was a boy, she wouldn't be on hiatus up to this day and everyone would forget what she did on the next week.

[@meritomorodion8041]

Y'all in this comment are immature as fuck. First stop comparing struggles and try to be kind and reasonable. One having more support than the other doesn't make it less okay to treat them like shit in the first place.

[@user-hp3kz6bo5i]

What makes me sad is that after the plagiarism issue, people should have gone after the producer. People should have looked at his work with the same scrutiny as they did momoland after bboom bboom. But no, apparently it's easier to hate someone who's face is more visible to the general public.

[@SianaGearz]

The way i see it, this is pop music, and musical ideas are usually not unique but recurring and there are a lot of sound-alikes, it's completely normal, and the order of business. In order to be popular, the music must walk that fine line between familiarity and novelty. Most Kpop is a rehash of 90s US and Euro pop, mixed with some amalgamation of trendy gender tropes. When there are more than a couple sound-alikes or ideas being reused, it forms a new sub-genre. A lot of similar sounding things are purely down to production libraries such as MIDI snippets and samples which are specifically made and sold to producers to be used in music, completely above water. Also any wonder when Shinsadong Tiger's music sounds similar to music he had written before? You cannot plagiarise yourself, it's not a thing.

[@Helios824]

The song is not GREAT is for MONEY

[@wetpersianpooseas]

​@@Helios824stfu your comments about Momoland are literally backhanded. Fix your grammar before making comments like this

[@mimzi7974]

"Homophobic"?? She was just saying she wouldn't date either of the girls. It's almost homophobic to assume gay people just date anyone they meet lol. But she was supposed to be hypothetically a boy anyway

[@Helios824]

Absolutely NASTY 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

[@glowrillaz]

i think people forget that being straight doesn’t mean someone is homophobic 🙄

[@isabelguzmanmiranda5025]

Let's not forget that the question was worded "If you were a boy..." Not, "if you were gay". So of course, she began her answer with "I'm not a boy..." And I dare think she might have not wanted to point out any of those two girls as prettier or more attractive than the other. I might not have wanted to answer that, either.

[@jnkiee]

@@isabelguzmanmiranda5025 If the only thing about her that changes is that she's a boy, you could assume that her sexuality would stay straight meaning that she'd like girls, but because she's a heterosexual girl (and not a boy) she can't choose ("I'm not a boy, so I can't choose")

[@urmom16969]

As someone who is lgbtq+ myself,it's not homophobic,she didn't want to date girls,nothing wrong with that.

[@sidd6766]

The hate Nancy got and went through was so unnecessary. She's literally one of the nicest people ever like people will literally hate on female idols for breathing. Stan momoland for clear skin

[@Helios824]

For me Yeonwoo its way better than Nancy

[@Helios824]

YEONWOO IS MY BIAS SHE IS BEAUTIFUL DONT YOU EVER SAY NANCY. WAY BETTER THAN HIM 😡😡😡😡😡

[@Helios824]

I LOVE YEONWOO

[@Helios824]

I DONT HATE MMLD.

[@jiayi5829]

@@Helios824 mmld remove yeonwoo so you should be hating on them . don't be a broken bot here

[@pimikameaw]

I love Momoland and didn't understand why all the hate against them, and now... I still don't get it ! Basically people are mad at any single thing about them, they really don't deserve all of this... Also omg this video is so well done why are you so underrated !!? You did such a good job !!

[@Helios824]

For me I DONT I LOVE THEM ANYMORE BUT I MISS YEONWOO AND TAE HA

[@johnchrysostomibarra]

@@Helios824 How miserable you are.

[@pervert_kun]

I doubt if most ppl even care about that. For me it's only about the songs I like and the one's I don't.

[@Lovemalotm]

@@pervert_kun same

[@seulgisjoy7439]

I haven't watched the vid yet, but the title is brilliant!

[@piewpiew1989]

ok but like can we talk about how much effort she puts into her videos? like thats honestly so fucking impressive and you deserve to be known for that. Please dont ever stop making youtube videos since you are a really good and amzing creator, dont give up we love you so so so much bestie!

[@jihoonscarat]

Awh thank you so much this makes me so happy to hear. I really appreciate hearing that people enjoy my stuff

[@night756]

@@jihoonscarat because that is a fact. We all enjoy your videos

[@Gavanceify]

🙌🙌🙌 AGREE!

[@shunuuu]

There's a double standard with some of these fandoms. They like to attack Momoland for the absolute smallest things but when their idols are being accused of the same small things they like to say that "people are putting them on a microscope and that they're being unfair because they're just human". They like to twist narratives to fit their stories but when the same is done to their idols, they cry wolf.

[@pz.vincesiqueiros7185]

Can we just appreciate Momoland's fandom? You never hear them making beef against other groups or fandoms and they defend the group with their life.

[@Helios824]

We have no answer for that's

[@Nhets0510]

Merries do all the time is defending momoland they're not even problematic and you can't even see them fighting with other the fandoms, unless if you start disrespecting momoland and accuse them of something that is not right, they're actually quite and peaceful fandom, small fandom that still fighting for momoland to be treated right by their own company MLD are literally worst, trash, and misogyny company momoland need to leave or disband in that company and redebut to other company I only think one label can treat them well they deserve to be in Pnation

[@justanoldsnufkin9747]

But they kind of destroy group from the inside. What i mean to say that there is a lot of men complimenting on Nancy and only viewing her as how nice she is. She's not only her appearance. She is very talented and she's a sincere person

[@pz.vincesiqueiros7185]

@@justanoldsnufkin9747 I dont think the guys talking about nancy are the issue. Its the ones wanting Taeha, Yeonwoo, and Daisy back. They constantly dislike the videos and harass MLD/Momoland to bring back them three especially Daisy

[@justanoldsnufkin9747]

@@pz.vincesiqueiros7185 actually i think these 3 should be bringed back if they want to come back and i don't understand the problem out of it. But yeah it is nasty that people dislike Momoland videos. But still mld sucks

[@iya9242]

Every time I see that clip of JooE and the other members crying wishing everyone to be happy, it makes me sob. just to let you know, they also do a lot of charity work in the Philipines, Chile and Mexico. I remember the girls went to a hospital for children in one of the countries listed and they sang with them. MOMOLAND are amazing girls and they get hated on for existing. It gets under my skin.

[@Helios824]

Nobody care but They doing this for MONEY OF THEIR COMPANY just like sm entertainment

[@iya9242]

@@Helios824 I don't think so. MLD has NO money, the girls didn't get paid for so long. MLD also spend most of their finances on T1419. MMLD do charity work on their own accord. Yes, they get opportunities from their company but they don't have to accept it. They flew to other countries just to sing with sick children. They visited a sick child in the Phillipines lowkey, they didn't want it to be disclosed so no they're not doing it for money. They're doing it because they're good people.

[@Helios824]

@@iya9242 good question 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@Helios824]

I THINK MLD Entertainment needs to be SHUT DOWN for good

[@yumekojabami2910]

Momoland's popularity here in the Philippines during 2018-2019 was INSANE

[@tingless]

tama!!!

[@samsungphone7579]

starts from January 2018 until Dec 2018 only.since the start of 2019 they're having problems,yeonwoo and taeha leaves the group and daisy is terminated by the company.

[@SuperNhodge]

BBoom BBoom and BAAM were big in US and Canada when they first came out, that is I think where most of the views and sales came from, probably more so than everywhere else, but Vietnam does love them a lot also.

[@yumekojabami2910]

@@SuperNhodge Philippines made them monster thats why they are promoting here until now but they are not complete and their popularity is not as big as before

[@cupidream9702]

i’m not even filipino but i remember everyone talking about how big they were there during 2018-2019

[@Snubol]

It’s literally impossible to bow to every senior in a crowd.

[@icebreaker5303]

Literally if we watch sugas fancam of him sitting there watching the performances; he didn’t even stand up when some groups got their awards. Since ik it’s just his personality and nothing too deep, I wouldn’t even have attacked him in the first place but it’s really disturbing seeing how people are treating female idols much worse for simply not smiling 24/7

[@myvrtualangel]

Boy groups when they make a mistake: ok Girl groups when they breathe a single tiny bit of oxygen: *OMG SHES SO RUDE IM HATING ON HER THEY ARE A DISGRACE TO THE WORLD*

[@sasajangabriel-2060]

"Every idol makes a mistake. They are just an ordinary people like us. They are tired, hungry, sleepy, etc. So before you hate think before you hate" Fore haters...

[@KathrynOliver_1321]

33:20 what also doesn’t make sense is why are the artists paying for a survival show??? Like, I get the training period and the production cost for debut and comebacks, but for survival shows? Yeah, that’s the responsibility of the company not the artists. The truth is, these companies don’t know how run properly. Momoland is just getting a lot of crap for no reason. I hope they’re okay. I really do want them to have more good luck without more crap. Just more good luck,

[@hann1329]

i think because a survival show is still training time. it isn't the first time idols has to pay

[@KathrynOliver_1321]

@@hann1329 that’s just sad. Like, very sad.

[@Helios824]

Finding momoland is rigged Just like daisy say

[@KathrynOliver_1321]

@@Helios824 that’s extremely sad. I’m disappointed, but not surprised. It looks like when people are in power, they’ll mess around and mess up other people’s chances of their careers.

[@Helios824]

MLd entertainment needs to be SHUT DOWN FOR GOOD

[@catalina3]

I actually think they were victims of misogyny. A boy group would have never gotten this much grief over little things, people were mad because a small girl nugu group had the biggest song of the year, bigger than most big groups's songs that year

[@rstuio]

they're just a shadow of their former selves at this point. her sister and her share a tiktok and instagram and they both have the "legal reasons" thing on them. the company really took all the fame of bboom bboom and ran off with it. i wouldn't blame them if they all terminated their contracts and disbanded just so they can have meat again.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

honestly i wont be surprised if someone else leaves during 2021, in recent performances they dont even look like they want to be there

[@rstuio]

@@iwakeupandboomimarat the huge debt that daisy had to face, there's also the threat of that if any of them decide to leave too. it could be possible that they're performing out of obligation until they just die out naturally.

[@Helios824]

I FELT sad

[@justanoldsnufkin9747]

Meet* 😅

[@rstuio]

@@justanoldsnufkin9747 no i'm not kidding. yeonwoo said that she missed eating meat in general. it was the same show where they asked her what she would do with a large amount of money and she said it would be the first time she would have ever been paid.

[@kawaiinekochick2]

I do think the idea of using similar instrumentation being "Copying" or "stealing" is hilarious. That's like saying Bach ripped off Mozart because they both use violins.

[@justanoldsnufkin9747]

I like that saying 😂

[@Helios824]

Hahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@izonexbae]

One if not the most hated kpop group without any reasoning, hated by blinks for liking blackpink, hated by army’s for allegedly not bowing when they already did, hated by kpop stans for becoming very popular and being able to compete with their favs!

[@ninimazi459]

Not blinks.blonks.

[@dilfhunter19]

@@ninimazi459 Blinks** hold your fandom accountable

[@NaraKwonPoD]

@@dilfhunter19 this. it's so problematic when people want to just push off the issue and act like there aren't any problems in their community

[@dilfhunter19]

@@NaraKwonPoD Periodt

[@dilfhunter19]

@@NaraKwonPoD Is a common problem that I usually see in big fandoms, Luke army, once, blinks... etc

[@Shay45]

I just can’t help the feeling that the company is just ruining them and they aren’t taking proper care of them

[@chrisbcpack]

right?? i worry for all their mental health

[@195516Z]

When all the contracts have finally run their course the truth will finally be revealed about how the girls were treated and the unbridled greed of the company.

[@diaaesc]

These girls don’t deserve this kind of treatment...like damn Nancy isn’t my fave but really that’s awful

[@oomay1925]

Imagine thinking a song is plagiarism of 5+ completely different sounding songs. People were seriously reaching with these accusations it was the dumbest thing ever.

[@cubriffic172]

I think the only one that has real weight is Bboom Bboom plagiarising Are You Hungry (same producer, he likely just reused the intro) and Mi Mi Mi (It's incredibly similar and as much as I love Bboom Bboom, I can't deny the similarity). But overall it's the producers fault, not Momoland's fault

[@alessaziergener7861]

Mi Mi Mi was the one and only, all the other songs were just stretched hard

[@isiaadiel3468]

In short, Kpop has become more toxic than even 2nd gen fans like me could've ever imagined.

[@zoutheinaabbas1003]

Truuuuue

[@ongakira]

lol this is why no one likes 2nd gen stans

[@IGot7RevtinyArmyStayOnceBlink]

@@ongakira ... you don’t like them because of the toxic hate of this gen... make it make sense 😂

[@TheLuxumbrae]

@@ongakira you're a gross stan

[@ongakira]

@@TheLuxumbrae l.o.l.😜😜

[@samcarmen]

i don't even follow MOMOLAND but this is so true. People hate success. When a group is "underrated" they'll stan them with all their heart's content but when they blow up, they'll start hating on them for nothing. Same happened with BTS and BLACKPINK. i have no idea why jealousy is such a disease.

[@janeetyonas8590]

Sorry but the Nancy glaring thing is just dumb. It’s literally just dumb.

[@emily.h08]

Right and how they lost their reputation basically because of Nancy’s glare, how they were shy to talk to bp and by laughing at jimin’s voice crack I think it was his not sure but bc r don’t even know what they’re talking about and all the accusations they’ve gotten made SO many people dislike them

[@NURREDIN]

Nancy was raised in Ohio. I'm from Ohio. That's what we do whether people are looking at us or not. It's not meant to be mean or disrespectful. Sometimes it's done when we're tired,or bored to death. She was probably tired as H*ll after promoting so much.

[@janeetyonas8590]

@@NURREDIN EXACTLY she’s human too she gets tired. Not saying that blackpink deserve the hate but a lot of the blinks that attacked Nancy are the same ones that defend Jennie for her resting bitch face. People just don’t want them to have the success they’ve earned.

[@cupidream9702]

@@janeetyonas8590 i agree! im a blink and jennie is my bias, but i always found it weird how they would brag about jennie’s resting bitch face and defending her when someone says she looks scary but still have a grudge against nancy for almost the same thing?

[@Helios824]

IF JENNIE FANS HATE NANCY

[@jaschela]

I don’t want them to disband just please transfer them to a different agency or something 😭

[@justanoldsnufkin9747]

Exactly 🥺 how can people say they should disband. They worked so hard for their dream

[@mooniskun2419]

I will never forgive armies, blinks, nctzens etc for what they did to momoland. Imagine going so low.

[@lisettecatalansalvo403]

Let's not forget that MLD Ent. is using all the money it got from Momoland's activities to promote it's new boy group and is no longer paying attention to the girls, as if Momoland's management couldn't get worse 💔

[@magnumskpopdungeon]

this this this this 100000x!!! I have nothing against the boy group and may even support them once they officially debut but just look at how MLD uploads 5 new videos for them every couple days, but nothing for Momoland. Not even when Momoland are preparing for a comeback will they receive similar treatment!!!

[@luma083]

with the plagarism accusations, i don't get why people were attacking momoland. attack the producers! they were the one who made the song... momoland are just given the song! THEY'RE JUST DOING THEIR JOB

[@georgiaharford4502]

15:00 a lot of producers use those samples. It’s completely legal cause they’re free samples

[@martynaarmycaratengene7216]

I feel really bad for Momoland :( They are really talented

[@Helios824]

I MISS YEONWOO 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@IGOTJAMS]

i miss Daisy thooooo 😓 how do they even have ~1 mil $ to pay out of their contract ... dang

[@Helios824]

YEAH me too

[@jimin-with-luv1306]

im just commenting before i watch the video - i owe an apology to momoland. i believed that they "giggled" and "didn't bow" and thus started looking for an excuses to hate on them. this was back in 2018 and i have let go of that toxic mindset of mine, but i still feel really guilty believeing all of those bad rumours about these lovely girls

[@jihoonscarat]

at least you learned and don’t think that way still. Of course if you see a bunch of people say something happened you tend to believe that but it’s important to be also do your own research cause people spread false information all the time

[@cupidream9702]

me too, i was a newer kpop fan so i guess i was just doing everything everyone else was doing. all i can do now is just support them as much as i can

[@Helios824]

KINDA SAD 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@rebeccagilchrist4777]

The whole bowing video I also think it's ridiculous because from the looks of it they were in heels and were trying to go down the stairs. It's not easy to go down stairs in heels while bowing, it would be incredibly easy for their weight to shift too much and fall, even going down stairs in flat shows you can fall if you don't pay attention.

[@tobi7615]

The way people judge Nancy’s body is so disgusting .

[@xxsknnylgndx1357]

did people seriously say that bboom bboom sounds like TT? 😭😭😭😭

[@IchiSwagger]

It freaking drives me insane that Jimin’s voice cracks and the scandal is “Momoland giggles” meanwhile Momo from Twice has a similar vocal mishap and everyone screams “she’s not talented she should be fired blah blah blah”. And also we need to recognize that not only are all musicians using the same 12 notes, but we’re all on Splice these days too. I just downloaded a pack that had part of Ateez’s Hala Hala AND part of Hwasa’s Maria. I can legally release basically the instrumental of Girl Front by Odd Eye Circle because the beats/synth/bass are all up on Splice.

[@gen7576]

yeah thats just not true. a lot of ppl especially blinks use that one clip of when his in ear monitor wasn't working so he couldn't hear himself and his voice cracks to say that he has absolutely no talent. literally all they use is the same clip over and over again to try and ig "prove" he can't sing?? when it comes to plagiarism in music I think its a tricky topic. just bc someone comes up with a sequence that sounds similar to someone else's does not necessarily mean they copied it. there are only so many notes, eventually all music is gonna sound plagiarised!

[@IchiSwagger]

@@gen7576 from where I’m at, the “outrage” over Momo was much more pronounced than any criticism of Jimin. Both situations were ridiculous as both of them are insanely talented. It’s not just Twice and BTS, boy groups are much more likely to have criticisms bounce right off of them while girl groups are judged more intensely, especially in regards to their “public persona”.

[@gen7576]

@@IchiSwagger you should see how much blinks talk about it on twitter, I think its an obsession for them I very much agree that girl groups are much more heavily scrutinised though, for example irene can't even think that women are not lesser than men without getting backlash for it? just so bizarre

[@IchiSwagger]

@@gen7576 Fair enough. I will never understand the groups of fans who have it out for other groups. Every group has them and they’re just toxic. There’s already enough drama in kpop without making enemies out of groups you don’t like.

[@rachel8872]

kpop fans hate women, that's it

[@oecfim]

Commenting before watching because I cant watch at the moment, but I just wanna say that I’m really glad this video has been made. Recently, I’ve been intrigued by them and wanting to know their story. This is going to be a good video, I know. Love your channel.

[@jihoonscarat]

thank you so much, I hope you enjoyed it. Im happy to hear you've gained some interest in Momoland

[@bimbozos]

i am a member of the lgbtq+ community, and i have anorexia, so i’m going to say my piece about nancy. i don’t think it’s fair to call nancy homophobic, especially based on ONE clip. as for the eating disorder joke, she was really young and might not have known better. it was offensive, yes, but we have *all* said things we regret (esp as a teen!). my heart goes to her. i can’t believe what happened to her regarding the leaks. it’s infuriating, and immensely concerning. i have no clue why she gets so much hate. jealousy is a disease.

[@aba4055]

i don't like their music, and don't know anything about them, but jooe's tropicana commericals are still the most iconic pieces of media to grace earth

[@marar8045]

This was so informative. I’m an army and I remember back when army attacked them hard. I didn’t cuz I just don’t engage in hate like that, but I must admit that I did think badly of the girls personally. Then I saw the clip and was like well isn’t this being blown out of proportion? Also, clips like these are never good. One should see what comes before and after because it’s very easy to misinterpret something if you just see one instant. I also recall seeing their comeback stages for I’m So Hot and thinking well isn’t this the exact same song over and over? I’m not blaming them, they have no control. I always thought the company was doing them wrong in that aspect. I think the exact same of Izone for that matter. All their songs follow the exact same formula. Again, not their doing, it’s the company. I’m not Korean, so this isn’t my place, but the only way these idols can be helped is with legislation. Contracts are law between the parts, but legislation can control how far these contracts can go. So if Koreans want to help, it’s not the companies they need to convince, it’s their legislators.

[@numdd4717]

Ok but Ready or Not was literally so underrated

[@Helios824]

SORRY THE SONG IS TRASH AND FLOP

[@numdd4717]

@@Helios824 If you got nothing positive to say, you can keep it to yourself... Focus on the things you do like. I loved it personally its classicaly east-asian and funky. Only thing I didn't like was the color grading at the M/V, but the dance version is super iconic to me.

[@Helios824]

This song way better than baam

[@Helios824]

Except I'm so hot

[@Colletezzz]

@@Helios824 Like literally no one asked for your opinion.

[@TheGraceCraig]

“Maybe get a snack” * looks at length of video * Yes, I shall get a snack

[@jihoonscarat]

hahaha snacks are often recommended while watching my videos

[@kazuhasgloves]

I'm gonna stan them??? I just have to at this point-

[@Helios824]

SAME

[@rafaelamasol4966]

Well it’s better if you stan them

[@justanoldsnufkin9747]

Welcome baby Merry

[@caultfouu]

The amount of k-pop fans who have never heard of sampling is truly concerning

[@jihoonscarat]

I know right ?

[@elly1433]

poor girls. they're so talented and so sweet and it's heartbreaking to see how much everyone hates on them without understanding what's going on.

[@Pamelalrene]

The eating disorder "joke" is more then that. She is literally talking about her own issues with eating and makes the joke. She makes the joke to make herself feel more comfortable. Instead o showing Nancy support for her obvious issues with eating, people attacked her for expressing herself in a joking way. Newsflash, people joke about their own trauma and issues to make it easier for themselves. And now, Nancy weight seesaws like crazy, a clear indicator of an eating disorder, or at least crash dieting. I cannot and will not diagnose her, but I think the obvious signs are there. And once again, instead of supporting her, people call her mean names and make fun of her weight gain.

[@amethyst034]

Exactly, not to say the joke wasn't inappropriate but do people not realise she's literally implying her disordered eating and thoughts. In the past she's stated she has done very low calorie diets, obviously I'm not accusing her of an eating disorder but her joke may literally imply she has a relation to the bulimic character she plays. Which is concerning but people used this to fatshame her instead.

[@xXInfinityDiesXx]

Yeah, I always thought it was kinda obvious that was why she made the joke. As someone who has suffered from an ED, I made dark jokes and memed about it constantly online. It's so sad people can only think in black and white.

[@miroglass]

I'm a fan of MOMOLAND. The more hate they get the more I want to love them. I respect them for all they've gone through and will continue to support them and their music. I know they have worked so hard and don't deserve to have been treated badly by Kpop fans, the company and the industry.

[@megami.x]

I know literally almost nothing about Momoland, as they’re just not really my preferred style, but just watching your video I will say Nancy is uniquely pretty so that may be why she gets a lot of bs from ppl. And it sucks to hear that she has to deal with that.

[@riceball387]

Im so mad, people obsessed to destroy Momoland carrer for no reason

[@roselastname4528]

I love these kpop essays

[@samliz_vo]

Cool I’m early! Btw Rly appreciate making a video on Momoland, I’m not a stan, so I’m not personally attached to them, but they have had such a rough career and it’s really unfair. Love ur stuff, you rly do ur research on topics u cover and it’s so well put together! ❤️😊

[@jihoonscarat]

You're very welcome, I feel the same way about them so I'm glad I got to make this video for everyone. and thank you so much

[@Haneul_Sky]

Thank you for making this video. You are probably the only KPOP content KZbinr that I truly love watching because you're videos are high quality.

[@jihoonscarat]

Thank you so much

[@vincheewong7043]

thanks for loving Momoland and this video is really informative to watch and I will always love I girls they’ve gone through a lot and it must’ve been hard for them , God is good he just watch and those who are in pain and suffering HE will blessed and hopefully the girls will reclaim the thrown of success again. I claimed that

[@SabrinaJacksonplustardis]

I think the title is perfect for their situation. And thanks for always sticking up for these idols who go through difficult situations! Stuff like this happens to smaller groups/artists not just in Korea, but around the world. It's so sad to see talent being held back. Love your vids!

[@shermantincher3417]

I live in the USA, the first K-pop. Video I Ever saw was BAMM! I thought the girls are so cute and the video/song was so hi energy and awesome!!! I am a big fan of Mom loans and love everything they do.I Believe if promoted properly they could be international superstars!!! Much love to Momoland. From me😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😁

[@KathrynOliver_1321]

Genuine question: are idols human beings or punching bags? Because the way I see it, they are HUMAN BEINGS that don’t deserve such shit, so why throw punches at them? Seriously... Btw, @Jihoons Carat, awesome job with your video! You continue to be very resourceful, and continue to remind me that idols are still human beings. Awesome job!!

[@jihoonscarat]

Whole heartedly agree with you! And thank you so much 💕💕

[@KathrynOliver_1321]

@@jihoonscarat my pleasure!!

[@GyeongmiBaeb]

"Why are they not calling BTS rude when only two of their members bowed...?" Because BTS could literally commit mass murder and ARMY would find some reason as to how it was the fault of the people killed. This isn't a stab at BTS so much as it's a stab to many (not all) ARMY. And before y'all start getting into keyboard warrior stance, I'm an ARMY, just an unbiased one.

[@jka1165]

Honestly, I think Momoland help introduced many Filipino boy fans to female kpop groups. I do still remember the time where they're so popular to Filipino guys few years ago because of Bboom bboom, then years later those boys started to stan other girl groups as well like BlackPink and Twice...

[@multikpopstan23]

Yeah I remember it, momoland is the biggest kpop group back then. You can hear their song in the streets even in schools

[@rsalskov]

Thank you for this video. You have opened my heart to Momoland and the members. I support you and Momoland.

[@user-xl6if1qb5n]

all the things they've been through really breaks my heart when I first got into kpop they were my ult group and helped me get into a lot of the groups that I love to this day I hope things get better for them I'll always be here to support them

[@aryanrai8513]

Sort of unrelated/not 100% related to momoland alone but do people really think that a group is just the members? Like its so bizzare when I see someone critique a group and the stans just immediately defend the members. Yes the members are obviously a huge part of the group but they are not the group themselves. They are not the ones writing the songs, directing the videos, giving line distribution, managing events(unless it has been specified). So yea the company they come from, the managers, the video directors etc are just as much part of the group as the members are. When I critique a group I refer to more than just the members of it. If there's something offensive in a groups music/music video it is in THEIR music, the album has THEIR name stamped on it so yes the group is the problem not always the members.

[@Helios824]

Good question BRO I give you like for that

[@Fallphoenix18]

That's why Merries tend to defend the girls, we all hate MLD lmao

[@mountainboy983]

Those shorts are literally the worst. I felt bad for these girls. Also, that finding momoland contest gives me the creeps. Do they only have old men as judges? No female judges?

[@patrickinkorea8589]

PSY must bring momoland under pnation

[@june8011]

Me and a kpop friend of mine thought so too!!

[@Helios824]

OMG YOU ARE GENIUS I WISH THEY BRING BACK OT9

[@Helios824]

GOOD QUESTION BRO I LIKE IT

[@Nhets0510]

Then if they'll rise again, this is a big slap for MLD for mistreating them

[@AEYEWOLF]

Very well done thank you! Now that social media is everywhere I noticed a lot of drama people seem to enjoy it a lot and social media is a 24 hour world so you never get a break. Everyone now are obsessed with likes followers shares and chasing numbers and all these kids and people are stressed out chasing numbers and no one thinks before they comment and thank you again very well done.

[@vxxxxk4032]

Top 5 most popular K-pop groups all over the world 1. Bts 2. Blackpink 3. Twice 4. MOMOLAND 5. exo Most Viewed K-pop dance practice of all time (1-10) is owned by Blackpink & MOMOLAND Most Viewed K-pop gg mv Blackpink, twice & MOMOLAND most synchronized K-pop gg 8. MOMOLAND

[@vestah2922]

Company did them dirty in so many ways. Girls do not decide anything, they just do what companies tell them to do, but they are the one who receive all hate. As a Russian i remember how I was surprised when I first heard "bboom", I thought it was a cover at first. I really love momoland but it is just so sad how company handled the situation. Maybe it is cruel to say, but most idols in Korea are "puppets" of their companies. They cannot do anything without companies' approval, and they are still the one who is being attacked. Companies supposed to protect idols, not to use them as a shield(( I really wish idols have strength to go through all of this :((

[@myvrtualangel]

You deserve a like for this

[@manuelenarcisi6509]

If feel bad for them. I knew something about the Daisy Case, but I never digged in the situation and I always wondered if MLD ent would trait the 2 groups differently... This group was my introduction to Kpop and if something else will happen, I would be really sad. Btw, the ones who said that Nancy is fat are probably blind.

[@bernadettecuare9870]

I think you cover all if not most.. Thank you so much for making this video. This clarifies a lot of things about them.I hope haters watch this, spare them some time give them a chance and don't just believe on what they heard or saw and being blind of what's the truth.They could've been one of the most biggest kpop group today if it wasn't just because of negative things thrown to them and if their reputation wasn't damaged by some not to mention the mistreatment that they're getting from their own company instead of giving them the protection and good management they needed.I'm so sad and feel bad for them that they are pictured as rude that others are not interested to know the real them the real story or to listen to their songs, they are being ignored and being taken for granted and the amount of hate that they are still receiving up until now and the false accussations, they are being easily judged and attacked, when they do nothing but to make their fans happy, gives us good music, show their passion, performed well, help people in need, do a lot of charities and stuffs.They do really care about others.They just also want to bring smile, laughter and healing to everyone.They are angels.I want the whole world to know how precious they are.They are one of the kindest and humble person I know.They are the sweetest.The most genuine and sincere human beings.They are so nice, warm-hearted, funny and talented.They deserve all the love and respect in the world.I hope people appreciate them before it's too late...

[@simranwilasra2196]

While their music has never really appealed to me, I don't understand where all this hatred for this group comes from. I guess they make for easy targets, with an incompetent company, lack of funds and small fandom but some of the things they've gone through are just disgusting. I do want to point out though, I don't think whataboutery ever makes for a good argument, and people could easily take all the things said about other groups not bowing during year end shows out of context.

[@loonabizkit]

momoland has disbanded now :(

[@chandeobi9189]

Dear people who hated Momoland for no reason, I know you won't listen to us because you probably listen only to yourself but do know you destroyed something very beautiful. I'm sorry but Momoland did nothing to you and yet you act like you're better than them. I just don't get how you sleep at night knowing you contributed on destroying someone's success. I hope you're sorry for what you've done to the girls. What you did was horrible if you're not aware. Get a life and God Bless! (To the creator) Btw thanks for making this video!

[@JordanHighfield]

Momoland deserve so much better

[@ZyxTube]

Thanks for all of the chapter breakdown/shortcuts

[@MooMooCow95]

I’m a show choir director, and I love learning / teaching little snidbits of Momoland dances (usually their choruses). They have very “user friendly” dancing which is fun yet fairly easy to learn, and I don’t think that gets enough recognition. I feel many groups are moving towards dancing that is no longer accessible to non-professional dancers. And it looks great when these professionals do it, but it’s also not fun to try and learn at home unlike Momoland where I could sit in front of a mirror all day and practice dancing.

[@Readyocade_]

Momoland are my ultimate ULTIMATE group in Kpop as of 2019 during Thumbs Up era! I personally hate it that these girls are held to a double standard as opposed to other girls groups like Twice, BLACKPINK, Red Velvet, etc. I want more people to give Momoland a chance, cause like you pointed out, they are caring people and are human too. Their not bullies, the reason the songs sound similar is because of MLD Ent and I will forever defend these girls from baseless accusations made against them by antis! #MerryGoRound #Momoland

[@Missangelblanco]

Lets be honest The only crimen Momoland did is having a los of songs that sounds similar for not say they are the same with different lyrics

[@showmustgowon]

i love your videos, they are so interesting and we can see that you put a lot of effort in it and that you do good researches, you deserve so muchh more subs tysm!!

[@jihoonscarat]

thank you so much, that means a lot to me. I try my hardest, it's not perfect but i like to believe i get better everytime

[@phuongthaovu7935]

I'm really appreciate when you do this video. Thank you so much, i'm sobbing rn. The girls is not deserve bad thing. The netizen is too rude, too rough for them. I really want this video spreading. Hit the like button, subscribe you and share the video is everything we must do. Momoland will comeback soon this year, please greet them with love

[@callistocallipso7043]

I love the transition music so much :D

[@magsvlogs5830]

Thank you so much for making this video love you soo much

[@kli4100]

thank you for this video 😭

[@forranger4281]

The group that got me into Kpop. They really deserved better.

[@reyanime]

The problem is when groups go viral they don't stay popular. Look at Exid for example. I'm worried same will happen with the current viral success of Brave Girls.

[@oohmyjooy]

Wth ? EXID was very popular ?

[@ReneKnights]

@@oohmyjooy I wonder if EXID was the exception rather than the rule...

[@Izfar916]

I believe this case is similar case to Crayon Pop. They was a huge hit with Bar Bar Bar and sadly they cant keep the momentum of their stardom. They also overworked without getting paid. They did a tour with Lady Gaga but the company didnt pay them any money.

[@liz-pz1ke]

EXID is still popular tho. After they went viral they stayed popular in Korea. Just because a group doesn't have a big international fan base, doesn't mean they aren't popular.

[@reyanime]

@@liz-pz1ke Their last several songs didn't chart well though. They weren't talked about that much come Me & You. Their popularity had significantly gone down by then.

[@debbienotdeborah]

Good job! Very thorough and unbiased.

[@syd5923]

Thanks for this vid we appreciate this:) I love you