Mona Polacca + Marina Abramović: Rites and Rituals

Our world is shaped by ritual. Hopi/Havasupai/Tewa Grandmother Mona Polacca meets with the “grandmother of performance art” Marina Abramović to talk about the essential role that ritual, repetition, and durational experiences play in reminding of us of our relationships to all things.
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[@Madrigalian]

She's a Thelemite, or closely related to the OTO or other offshoot of Golden Dawn/Alister Crowley/Hermetic Mysticism. She tries to pass it off as "performance art" to the ignorant. Make no mistake, it isn't art. It's ritualized "Magick". The other lady is much more on the Shamanistic/Wiccan path. The two are not at all the same. Which means Abramovic is recruiting.

[@wannarose3796]

Only the very blind can not see what marina is up to. Marina for the sake of you, please stop what you’ve been doing a long time. Thank you.

[@mariacillan9668]

Magick is art tho

[@wannarose3796]

@@mariacillan9668 when you have nothing good to say is good to keep your mouth shut!

[@zisssi7928]

@@mariacillan9668 it is not.

[@wannarose3796]

@@saimanda_ I truly think that there are bodies with no soul you know. Because either you got to be very very evil to be comfortable with the energy that people like marina give or be very dumb or no soul at all.

[@mishaeljohnson963]

With blood convenants are made.when she did the spirit cooking she build an ulter with blood hence making a convenant with the devil into that building and community.I am simply saying she opened a door way for the devil at that very location,building and community.I feel bad for people who leave some distance to the location where that ritual/arts as you all see it was conducted.Jesus Lives!!!

[@tarralyncook3712]

This is crazy bro like I’m scared

[@operationlivefree4536]

How does just blood do all that? I'm so confused

[@delilasloan9311]

@@operationlivefree4536 hard to explain, but not hard to understand at all. Look into any religion or anything that works and blood has a power.

[@yotubek]

@@operationlivefree4536 yes, it is a strange mystery of the spirit world. The plain fact is that evil spirits, or demons, have a deep desire to destroy and hurt mankind because man is created in God's image. But these evil spirits lie to us, entice us, and pretend to be our friend sometimes. But the end of all of this is to destroy us. This is why, in the Bible, sometimes God calls Satan "Abaddon"...which means "Destruction".

[@frikkiesmit327]

​@@operationlivefree4536in short. God told people to never eat or drink blood. Satan does always the opposite and deceives people into doing always the opposite of that which God commanded. Its not always easy to understand the spiritual stuff. However when people worship satan and follow his commands than he grants them their wishes. However there is always a price to pay. It basicly comes down to terms and conditions like a contract. You have to do your side of the bargain to get what you want . And as you do rituals etc you unknowingly give legal right to satan in your life. Witches do different rituals and call up demons. They order the low rank demons around but only get to do that so they are deceived in thinking they are in control of the demons. However the demons listen to the higher rank demons and they all listen to satan. So witches will call up summon demons to order demons around. To get protection against other witches. And so on. With each ritual they bind themself more and more.

[@dannycrow1096]

Any one else notice at 1.05 abromovic touches her ears with the devil horns hand sign. It looks as though she meant to do this , I may be wrong but I have heard of others to do to send put a sign.

[@dr.reviewsfrompersonalexpe7603]

These people do gestures and subtle movements, that cast some sort of spell over those who aren’t covered by the blood of Jesus Christ, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords! All Praise to Jehovah!

[@OneSpiritOneBody]

This is why true followers of Christ need to come out of the religious system and become part of the ekklesia or the called out ones. It's easier for the occultists to recruit when the people see nothing else besides institutionalized religion where the people walk in no power (but much corruption). Aside from that, we have the smaller charismatic type of 'ministries' that are merely slaying people in the spirit or filling them with the kundalini spirit and (thankfully) many unbelievers can see through that.

[@yourrealdad8014]

It's called synchronism,,,,,,dwell in all of them don't fall face first into one

[@verniece2]

Spot on! Religion is a created falsehood that was created for the church to control those that were lower caste. It's all about control. Through the years is taken many spins and it's just not what we should be following right now.

[@lynmay5154]

Thank you so much!! This really spoke to my heart. 🙏

[@youmakemehappy7]

Every time the camera is on Marina, it goes haywire.. I think that's very telling..?

[@jaquelinespinal1263]

Sara Ferguson Yea that she’s demonic .

[@deathbydestiny1197]

Girlllll she gives me chills

[@moe-moe6638]

WOW!!! 20 minutes in to 22:26 is some tense time!! The lady gets uncomfortable after saying something about the great awakening. M.A. starts making fun of her.

[@youmakemehappy7]

@@moe-moe6638 why do you think she got uncomfortable?

[@youmakemehappy7]

@@jaquelinespinal1263 exactly!!!

[@sarahk6254]

She is definitely a witch who practices dark magic but I feel like she’s using the knowledge this Native American woman has for her own benefit.

[@debbiestevens8263]

She has no knowledge she can't even explain what she's trying to say ..she's should feel lucky that marina even gave her time that's real intelligence..

[@SirLavaLamp]

Absolutely

[@klarge24]

@@debbiestevens8263 lol are you a witch too… weirdo. Jesus prevails

[@Roy97h]

That's what people of your kind usually conclude about artists being too abstract in their art. Your religious minds are too small to comprehend her philosophy.

[@SirLavaLamp]

@@Roy97h you’re wrong

[@rogernewday123]

Are those "EVIL SPIRITS" moving around in the background between them on the wall. Please thumb this if you see it ?

[@adammitchell5683]

I don't see no demons

[@yurafinzi]

thanks, i got the conclusion my self, for being thankful for everything and take care of it :)

[@DRUMSandBUBS]

Adrenachrome Hell of a drug

[@AliciaM5555]

I know right?! 😳😳

[@TheCoster11]

I saw a comment and noticed her cheeks and face are definitely like Steve Harvey’s hands were on thatbpublic display

[@DRUMSandBUBS]

@Jacoby Henderson can you explain what you mean a little more. Steve is on the juice too? Is it like steroids and makes your face round out? Hands balloon out too? Is that what you mean? Thanks

[@Desiree_T]

In the Beginning From day 1-7 God created the earth and the fullness of everything that dwells upon it Amen

[@spiritchild9101]

6 days of creation. The seventh was a day of rest.

[@maha.888]

أتمنى يترجم للعربية 😭

[@mattmalinas]

min 21 she's talking about what a shaman told her about Trump: that he would be the "magician" who would wake us up. was not expecting that from her :)

[@livzeppelin3331]

mattmalinas 100%. I actually agree with this, which is an unexpected response. From a political sense, he shook up the system.

[@shadowkill546]

In traditional religions, the devil is associated with the trickster, the magician. In Buddhism and in Hinduism, Maya/Mara, the demon that tries to tempt the Buddha, is called a magician. It is the magic, the delusion that is cast over the mind. So Trump basically represents that delusion, and thus that demonic entity. And it makes sense, when looking at Trump and his supporters (and people in general), it's clear they're in a state of delusion and extremism.

[@yeeyee9759]

@@shadowkill546 trump 2020 Trump Jr 2024 bitch

[@dizzielizzie5230]

@@shadowkill546 I have studied in depth global politics since 2016. I am a truth seeker for the betterment of humankind. I am both a successful accountant and shamanic practitioner. In both 'worlds'. Trump is both a trickster and 4d chess player, for the good. To wake up the world from the evil that has been hidden in the shadows for a long time now. It takes a trickster to expose them and he is playing the evil at their own game. Thank you President Trump for saving the children more than any other thing you have done for the people. We must do our OWN research, as I have done. Ignorance is not bliss in this day and AGE, it is dangerous. Nameste

[@shadowkill546]

@@dizzielizzie5230 Well, based on traditional archetypal models from pretty much all spiritual-religious traditions, Trump is a devil. A trickster is outwardly using misdirection to point out reality thereby revealing the concealed truth. Trump, however, uses misdirection because he is actually delusional. And his misdirection is used, constantly, to cover up his own sins and his own corruption. All you have to do is look at who he was before he was president. A trickster has honor, and uses tricks on the dishonorable. Trump has no honor, never has. For instance, he used all sorts of corrupt business practices to make money, cheated many out of their wealth, did not pay his debts, and engaged in tax evasion. He's on record for the rape of at least 25 women, but due to his wealth, hasn't been touched. Trump represents the ignorance of our age, where all of the egoic-character traits are established within him. The world's acceptance and praise of him represents how far the collective conscience is under the influence of the ego. And when the collective conscience sees their own darkness reflected in Trump, and they reject Trump, then it will be like smashing the idol of the Heart. The darkness of man on a collective level will be destroyed, so they must choose love and life and progress, and community and compassion over all that Trump represents. If this does not happen, then the fanatical undercurrent that is raging across the world, shown in the rise of far-right extremism, will continue to overtake society.

[@corinnaw3420]

I've seen marina without her A chrome consumption.Shes actually over 70.

[@TheCoster11]

Holy crap bro I see where she used it the exact moment you said that

[@subjectofsaturnyervahsa7386]

Weird , it's almost like she's talking about the great reset . . . Wonder what marina abramovic is thinking right now. Feels like two plans for this world have collided into each other . . or maybe this was part of the plan. Thank you for the tips on how to survive.

[@SuperGinamo]

Yes.. Her friends want a hell on earth planet… So does she… I’m not certain she’s a witch but she’s for witchy things judging by the people she supports… .. She may or may not know…

[@northstar6580]

Our grandmothers, our old ways and love for Mother Earth will conquer the evil that is trying to take hold of our children- we are to protect them.

[@peterkimani3364]

There are 6 acres to any one person in the planet. if the population doubles, there would be 3acres to everyone person..The planet has more than enough resources to cater to us.

[@althealovengrace7773]

She's so powerful 😩😩 she's lost her mind though, it would seem.

[@cartomancycarmen]

This was gorgeous especially the end!

[@spreadplays]

Mind blown!

[@gregwoolsey2215]

She talks about love being better for you than anger...She says she doesn't like religion, but is high up in her religion, and is selling it in this video. God is love. Satan is anger, fear, hatred etc. He is her father.

[@joannebeechey4202]

My cycle has always been n synchronization iwith the full Moon.I Love these conversations and learning Respect for Our Ancestors. A indigenous uprising.

[@marniestenersen2076]

Black Magick!

[@ikiwetu]

The Dogons are from West Africa.. Mali to be precise.

[@Susieq26754]

If it works, let's see you do it. Right now on stage.

[@naturesquad9174]

21:00

[@geriklughart6667]

She is Michael Maxwell, ' dead' son of Robert Maxwell and eldest brother of Ghislane.

[@Gwen3388.]

How do you know?

[@-Thunder]

Trump is waking people up, but this host and audience are still asleep.

[@Daluyah]

I know Marina was just thinking like "wow this lady keeps saying mother or grandmother over and over again."

[@Raptorcdxx]

Ask her about ZOE...

[@TheCoster11]

What or who is that

[@ronmartinaz]

How can such a small mind tell the earth, AmaGaia, what she can bear?

[@duckisfaction]

Great talk. For intelligent people. Not for ignorants or conspiracy theorists.

[@Bandobenz18]

Can you explain and elaborate on that?

[@mariacillan9668]

@@Bandobenz18 many people want to see things their way and don't want to listen. Hence it's not for ignorants because they're not gonna listen anyway

[@maynotreply3505]

@@mariacillan9668 judging by the comments seems many listened quite well.

[@Mila-pe3ln]

Marina is the number 1 satanic spirit cooking shit

[@Susieq26754]

Careful. Your not being very loving.

[@11kindpunk11]

💙 💙 💙 💙

[@AmandaSahms9574]

Twitter brought me...I have a huge 13 tatted on my arm part of my sleeve! I was told I am an empath and grey witch but I don't practice. It's just getting weird!

[@dustinmikesell7908]

You are a child of God of the most high, and he loves you and died for you. His name is Jesus Christ. This woman is involved with the purest form of evil. Please look into pizzagate. She works for the devil and his minions and it’s all being exposed. I pray you find these truths. God bless

[@rosadamiani5264]

She is EVİL NOT A GOOD PERSON!! DO NOT LOOK UP TO HER !

[@AmandaSahms9574]

@@dustinmikesell7908 thanks,but I know all about all of this! I'm a Qanon.

[@ifyouonlyk6556]

@@AmandaSahms9574 Q is fake news. It was designed to get people to believe that Trump was a savior. They knew that people would turn away from it by creating Q. Kappy called Fiona Barnett a liar. They are demons. You are surrounded by darkness. Watch the Candy Girl documentary. That’s who Kappy said was a liar. I can bet you that he was paid to do what he did and that he is not dead.

[@operationlivefree4536]

@@AmandaSahms9574 trolling is fun huh

[@joshguilliams6924]

JESUS already defeated you!! ✝️

[@rosadamiani5264]

AMEN

[@Jasminee_symonee]

🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@gmedeiros5748]

I don’t think she is a bad witch . Her philosophy in art and ideas sound more cosmo conscious and freedom from old concepts . The formula for fountain of youth is not done with blood but by another way according to the philosophers .It is hinted in the Bible along with a Clavis or key that locks the book of revelation with many unusual seals . None can open that book but the true returning King that somehow is both female and male . A higher being than angels or jinn . The gnostic fragments have dialogue that forbid the old rite of thrice concocted blood And the fountain of youth or great secret is not in blood rituals because if so everybody would know about it and heaven would be taken by force . The philosophy and art of Marina are more nature based or Pan centric . The more you hear from her the more it sounds like a search for self awakening and a sense of loneliness and acceptance. The blood art was eccentric shock therapy and can be offensive but points to a immaturity of spirit , primordial and juvenile that could be destructive if conceived inaccurately . The art is theatre or living art that uses both good and evil as a medium In a controlled environment by a artist

[@toddhatfield5329]

No...and no.

[@mariacillan9668]

THIS NEEDS TO BE PINNED! YESSS THANK YOU

[@valentinacamacho7198]

This witch uses sperm breast milk and blood in her rituals. Be careful she is definitely a deceiver

[@BlackMagnolia]

So if we don't like the shock therapy or the traumatizing feelings when we look at a blood soaked wall we are considered immature? No, she just wants to control us into believing a blood-soaked wall is a passage for maturity that's just horseshit man. That's brainwashing at its finest. Using the subversive adolescent herd mentality of you're not cool/refined/mature unless you like this..."if perceived inaccurately" so we must see a certain way or else we're immature? This is just a ploy to normalize filth and the shittiest parts of humans. There are limits for us filthy human beings and to be limitless in this sense and the Way Lady Gaga is so over the moon for, means to be unbridled which really means no rules and immorality. ✌️

[@highwired7781]

Of course exclude the major details like the fact that she is closely associated with MANY people involved in sex trafficking. Including John of God who now faces over 300 years in prison for the assaulting hundreds of women and of course Epstein and his group of friends… but I guess that’s all just art as well. SMDH….

[@urmisunshine8]

pearls before swine.

[@Redlioness-gp9ci]

I don't get any good vibes with Marina Abramovich, she's of darkness.

[@AliciaM5555]

Classic psychopathy

[@Roy97h]

That's what people of your kind usually conclude about artists being too abstract in their art. Your religious minds are too small to comprehend her philosophy.

[@AliciaM5555]

@@Roy97h right 👌.

[@heidihoover9997]

God will have the last laugh. These servants of darkness will be shown no mercy.

[@Thessalonians22-kg8pf]

13 Grand Druids

[@victormor555d]

Most of the comments seem not to have been medicated, take your meds

[@operationlivefree4536]

Now now, I would but I'm having trouble getting into the mental health system. Don't leave the house. Have to leave the house for help. Kind of a stuck position.

[@RameR_RemaR]

Red pill or Blue pill… take your juice med and cash your government check 😂

[@chey8393]

“I am a grandmother” “The Earth is our grandmother” “Our water is our grandmother” “The Moon is our grandmother” Okay, lady... I’m all for the sanctity of nature, but everything isn’t a grandmother 😂 I’m not even halfway through this video, can’t wait to find out what else is a grandmother. 👵🏻

[@candijogriffin4731]

Cockroaches

[@DonYeyoReaks]

She’s slow as fuck, a terrible host. She looked lost.

[@jellouliskander396]

It actually goes till the end 😂😂😂

[@FreedomFreedom-ht8yc]

Witches.....

[@johnschomer7790]

What the hell is she talking about. All I heard was blah, blah,blah.

[@dennisdemenace9948]

Illuminate Tick Tock

[@WhistlingIsNeverEnough]

This comment section reads like a transcript from the Salem witch trials.

[@susywilliamson3829]

The Mother Earth is not going to decide to who she is going to get water. It is the Group that control Everything woman! Plus we are not parasite 🦠 if you think that you are parasite. Well you are!!! Because I am a child of God The Only ELOHIM.

[@pamelasmith2388]

You reveal your ignorance . You reveal your unkindness .

[@ashleyvalladares1]

Subliminal messages. Her necklace is 13 pieces lol

[@thesmokinsection2076]

Marina is such beautiful art herself.

[@ncabcabin]

Spirit cooking is not art

[@jaquelinespinal1263]

Are you kidding me ? Her face is hideous Beautiful ???She’s an ugly satanic witch ! Exactly what a witch looks like . The long nose, long black hair and dressed in black .

[@lucianasanna9815]

A lot of people are fashinated by her,she is satanist 100%anyway.pity for her

[@Twinklez63]

She's evil

[@jaquelinespinal1263]

She’s feeding off your energy and all the other gullible people’s energy as well. Satanist don’t work alone. The point is to draw you in and deceive you. She’s not going to come out and say “ Hey this is satanic rituals I’m performing “. So instead she’s pulling this off as “ART”. And anyone with healthy brain cells will never believe this is ART. We all know what ART is !

[@chantalyahysrael1560]

13 grandmothers of Satanic wickedness

[@robertalilith7368]

Ma che cazzo dici??

[@TheCoster11]

Marina and Joey Nuzum note the names of these demons. Know who you are. I shouldn’t have to say much else to the you know who’s

[@theGodfella]

13 Colonies = 13 Pieces looking for the 14th Osiris

[@Ares3043]

13 tribes for the 13 crimes.

[@seeyounexttuesday6937]

❣️❣️❣️

[@Zakkarath]

In the Western world we are digitised and quantified.... our association with the environment is based on its monetary value to venture capitalists..... WE EXIST TO FEED THE PARASITES OF THE FINANCIAL WORLD..... WE USE MAGIC, RELIGION AND SPIRITUALITY TO ESCAPE THIS.

[@cskinner6564]

The free masons monsters is what she is....

[@geriklughart6667]

Googe image of Michael Maxwell

[@adammitchell5683]

And anyways why's everybody pick on that poor lady??Why don't they leave that poor lady Alone??🇺🇸💪

[@reason5591]

Cannibal

[@marlakay5317]

so incredibly lost, Lord Jesus help these women, they speak derision

[@Guymeqo]

YAWN

[@FreedomFreedom-ht8yc]

Marina Abramovic Just Wants Conspiracy Theorists to Let Her Be She gives the impression she would get kicks out of watching some one suffering and dying. Then she would casually write it off as "art".

[@noinfo9130]

.... she gives that impression because thats what she does.

[@ThankYouJesusTheChrist]

I kept wondering why her hands were giving me the creeps, and i realized, her hands look like they are normally around a child's neck, ending it's life.

[@lordcrabby197]

I am sick. *guy attacks her for killing his daughter*

[@AliciaM5555]

YES!!!!!

[@Ares3043]

To explain to everyone calling her an unholy Witch - Marina Abramovic is honestly, a genius. Well versed in occultism and religion yet transcending it. The time whne she was in Amsterdam fits the development of the Kaosmagika current, the deregulation and liberation of ritual, of ceremonies. Kaosmagika explored into why these rituals have psychological power, it is all based upon belief and induction into that belief system. Marina goes beyond that, the aim to blend real and unreal; delusion and definite - audience and stage. It is what you could call it, the final experiments needed to develop "Reality Warping". How to make people unanimously believe in that which is not so that what was not is. A worthy inheritor of Rasputin.

[@lingy74]

What she is doing isn’t unusual or novel. She uses the methods of Tantra but without the view, without skilful means and without the secrecy and in so doing, lost her balance and cut herself. It’s fine if people just see this as art but for those who actually do understand tantric methods, she has gone astray.

[@colehanson2033]

She's evil.

[@AliciaM5555]

Oh BS. In what universe would a real artist choose to use blood without some intention and/or agenda? She's from elitist lineage so she's been brought up in that and is preaching in plain sight. It's about power in the blood, blood is synonymous with life it's also about adrenochrome. Don't get it twisted, I'm not remotely religious yet I see this clearly.

[@TheCoster11]

What a fool. She is a genius for the wrong side

[@KingaKucyk]

I love these two women allready 💖 Beautiful and wise words. Preach ladies, preach❣

[@ncabcabin]

So you are saying you support spirit cooking?

[@KingaKucyk]

@@ncabcabin I say I support what is being said HERE in THIS interview. Please, don't put words in my month that I haven't said

[@jaquelinespinal1263]

You say preach” to demonic witch. That’s fooled you and all brainwashed followers. Wake up !

[@KingaKucyk]

@@jaquelinespinal1263 My darling, nowwhere in my comment I even remotely adressed her personal beliefs or practices. I couldn't care less what she believes in or practice. I only commented on her and Mrs. Polacca's words on THIS particular interview. Just because I love Mrs. Abramović's personality and art does not mean I blindly agree with everything she says and does. There are things I love and things I hate about her, but until one's not really evil, I cannot hate the person, ok? Do You think I care what are her spiritual or religious beliefs? Do You think this was what I ment in my comment, maybe You should read it again. This time, please see it, instead of just looking at it. Same goes to the interview. Did You even listened through it all? And if so, were You listening, or were You hearing? It's huge difference. But I do understand and respect Your point in this discussion. Thank You.

[@jaquelinespinal1263]

Kinga Kucyk Well Maybe you should research her before saying “ I love these ladies”. Saying that means you know enough of that person in order to love = admire. And no, didn’t say you should hate . Yes I’ve watched the video, still doesn’t change the fact that this is all a fake and coverup to attract more followers. Giving fools the impression that she’s an “Artist”. Pedophiles also say nice things to attract people but unless you know they are pedophiles I’m pretty sure if you are a normal person, you wouldn’t give a crap about them,you wouldn’t say “ I love him/her”. So do your research and if you are against her brainwashing bs you would understand. She’s demonic, evil, lying witch. How can you “ love” that ?. So if you didn’t know,now you do. Don’t take my word for it but research.

[@I.M.MS.]

She is always wearing black.... God, protect us.

[@livzeppelin3331]

Scorpio M90 you’re kidding right? Have you ever heard that black is slimming?

[@I.M.MS.]

@@livzeppelin3331 I wear black too but not all the time ! I just don't like this woman...

[@livzeppelin3331]

Scorpio M90 id encourage you to read her memoir. She’s actually been through many trials and tribulations. There’s something to be learned from her story. If you don’t like her, you don’t like her but there might be some take away for your life personally.

[@I.M.MS.]

@@livzeppelin3331 I read something some time ago about her life etc.... She is a successful woman and I respect that, but on the other hand, she is really, really weird and kinda scary. I don't like her " art" ...it's just sick and I can totally imagine her eating little kids 😂

[@livzeppelin3331]

Scorpio M90 what about it is sick? I see it as a mirror. What you see in her is in yourself so it’s worth reflecting on, as most of the work is about the public and how it reacts to the work in the moment. They’re interventions.

[@javiertapia4724]

this is all tech, we are being conditioned with woo woo shit wile technological advancement allow to put on a spiritual show

[@tropicalstrings]

Go to the wrst and destroy it from within.

[@broomehillwa6318]

666

[@robertalilith7368]

I like Marina..she s a good person

[@AliciaM5555]

Oh, she's awesome for a psychopath, M'kay 👍👌👌😳😳

[@revyjorda8421]

Marina is such an amazing and intelligent soul...

[@Mila-pe3ln]

Spirit cooking satanic Marina/ best friend with big farma and Bill Gates

[@dennisdemenace9948]

Shes a Satanist lol!

[@TheCoster11]

You won with this joke for sure lmao!

[@katrinahotai3788]

Satanists

[@suzyvaz8710]

Where

[@rosadamiani5264]

Sick and evil

[@debbiestevens8263]

Omg this native lady is not making any sense..does she even know what she's talking about..she acts like she doesn't know what to say..im embarrassed for her lol....why is marina even giving her any of her time and giving her a platform? what waste of time..

[@djwonder3]

doesn't make sense to be talking to this psychopath Abromovich for any reason ever.