Mongolic: meet a language family, including Para-Mongolic

[@89Awww]

Agglutination, vowel harmony and no grammatical gender. These tongues may not be Uralic or Turkic, but the similarities are still fascinating!

[@centralasia186]

This is due to the fact that once the Korean Uralic Turkic and Mongolian languages ​​came from the same region and were neighbors. This is northern China, i.e. Manchuria.

[@FairyCRat]

I thought the Uralic languages originated in west/central Russia

[@89Awww]

@@centralasia186 Yes, some very powerful areal features and strata at play!

[@centralasia186]

@@FairyCRat The Ural genetic haplogroup N1 appeared on northern China. And then through Siberia it spread to the north-west. But the Uralic languages ​​are very ancient compared to Mongolian or Turkic.

[@christopherellis2663]

Skip the vowel harmony and you might be talking about Basque

[@miraxell]

Greetings from Mongolia! Your previous video about Mongol language was spot on!

[@namingisdifficult408]

Hello from New York!

[@frechjo]

Hello from near your antipodes, in Patagonia Argentina :D

[@jihangirastra3851]

mini francis yes it’s pretty much the same, but Mongolian Cyrillic has some extra letters like ө,у

[@miraxell]

@@Ida-xe8pg thats correct.

[@miraxell]

@@Ida-xe8pg well, replaced our way of writing with Cyrillic which happened to be quite adaptive and adjustable for our language. But phonetically there are differences since they are different languages by their origins. For example as Bold-ochir mentioned we have extra made up letters such as ө and ү.

[@NativLang]

I hope you are well. May some language love help you pass the time. Life was different when this narration was recorded. So will it be trees, waves or onions?

[@stza16]

I hope you are well too.

[@Be-wilde]

Much love

[@jetwaffle1116]

I’ll almost be fluent in Italian by the time this ends due to all of this free time!

[@tagootuesday6521]

You’re the man, love this channel

[@mamymimma]

@@jetwaffle1116 Buon lavoro😉

[@stefangeorg9048]

As a - yes - Mongolist who has been living with and working on all this for quite some time, I want to say that there is nothing in this contribution I would feel the urge to complain about. Very well done, please keep up the good work.

[@blankblank1284]

Yeah, he does his research to make his videos as accurate as possible. Same with Langfocus, though he focuses on languages themselves rather than their glottochronological history.

[@trakyaci]

I have never, ever heard of a devoiced vowel before. That was confusing

[@alicewyan]

Japanese has them too!

[@peterfireflylund]

Alice Wyan so desu!

[@r.m.pereira5958]

European Portuguese has it. Some Uto-Aztecan languages too. It may happen due to vowel reduction.

[@celtofcanaanesurix2245]

Alice Wyan oh is that what those u’s are at the end of words like desu, I had a single year of Japanese in high school before switching to russian for the rest of my time, and always found that desu thing confusing.

[@somedragontoslay2579]

Also Central Mexican Spanish has them!

[@Deriak27Forever]

9:49 I knew it, Serbs were behind the Mongols after all!

[@luizmatthew1019]

mongolija je srbija

[@Ida-xe8pg]

Nje, Mongolja je Jugoslavije

[@dunjam1194]

Deretic was right all along!

[@Halocon720]

Chinggis Khan is proud to be a S E R B

[@Ida-xe8pg]

Bog je Serbin!

[@DoZorMGT]

Сайн байна! Би буряад хэлэн һурганаб Hello to my mongolian brothers! I am learning Buryat language, I hope we will use it more often in Buryatia.

[@Ida-xe8pg]

WA WO WAWO WA WO JA

[@leagalvidyte9863]

I think I should learn it too! I currently live in the U.S. but it would be good to remember one of my family's languages there :)

[@tuvshinkhantaishir3910]

Buriad helee sain suraarai

[@sergeykuzmichev8064]

Круто, успехов 👍

[@RandomBestEdits]

Mend amor

[@aathish04]

0:27 "I got _animated_ about..." I see what you did there.... I see it.

[@tmhchacham]

"I get animated" Cute. Love the stories and the feeling you put behind them.

[@blankblank1284]

Makes it easier to learn if the person talking shows intrest or passion. College and University are annoying becuase teachers sound so disintrested and miserable that its hard to get engrossed. I love these youtube videos where the speakers sounds so enthralled by what he is talking about, and so excited to be able to share his knowledge with the world, that you just get so engrossed in the story he is telling. On the other hand most teachers show so little passion that students get bored and zone out, it becomes like a series of meaningless sounds and information that quickly leaves you're head. Making notes a neccisity as ypu would forget it otherwise as they put no effot into making it easy to remember, relying on rote memorization. If the teacher dosn't care about the subject, he can't expect his students to care. That is at least my take on the matter, on what the _modus operendi_ of teachers and teaching should be.

[@slamalamadingdangdongdiggy5268]

Why not a Mongolic tumbleweed? The branches are separate from each other, but they're also entangled and intertwined.

[@voicelessglottalfricative6567]

So Mongolic family is technically inbred

[@PC_Simo]

Makes sense 🤔.

[@johncao6516]

Also like onions, when you mess with Mongols, you cry.

[@MDLuffy-oc8tr]

Laughs in Mamluk...

[@Innomenatus]

Laughs in Japanese.

[@huntgame2523]

Almost all asians have Mongolian DNA. *GENGHIS KHAN ROFL*

[@caileighgouthro1365]

Can confirm...

[@arare-principissaphocarum958]

LAUGHS IN VIETNAMESE

[@John_Snowbird]

I'm currently learning Mongolian, and it really is a wonderful language. Also, I think you worry too much that if your videos are full of purely facts and examples they might get too dry, but I'm sure none of us mind.

[@heavenly_girl]

What's your mother tongue?

[@qwxzy1265]

me too! the only issue I'm facing is lack of motivation to learn it consistently, due to laziness 😅

[@St.Sogofhedgehogs]

Laziness is not an issue, bcs I live in Mongolia and forced to learn mongolian.

[@mansionbookerstudios9629]

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[@coffeecoffee2096]

​@@St.Sogofhedgehogs хөөрхий амьтан чи чаднаа

[@ChristianPerrotta]

The "Cthulhu Association" welcomes its new member: Khalkh.

[@andreaslind6338]

Cthulhu ftagn just means "good morning" in Mongolian.

[@blankblank1284]

I prefer the original name for the "Cuthullu Mythos", that being "Yog-Sothothery". Which makes more sense as all things are one within Yog-Sothoth.

[@m.kostoglod7949]

@@andreaslind6338 no in mongolian it is Ögloniï ménd

[@larsfrisk6658]

@@m.kostoglod7949 they were joking

[@PC_Simo]

@Mr. Infinity I can’t help but feel there’s a connection to Finnish ”Hyvää huomenta.” Specifically between ”ménd” and ”huoMENTa”. I guess ’Sprachbund’ struck again. 😆

[@mishka3284]

Greetings from Mongolia! I love how you are studying Mongolian and revealing info that I, even as a Mongol, had not known before (I speak khalkha obviously). Keep up the good work!

[@kito9694]

Among all other linguistic youtuber, NativLang is on a whole new level. He must be a PhD in linguistics.

[@SaposaBear]

Whoohoo! One more video about our language. Thank you so much! You're helping us re-learn our history and language. :)

[@whatevermatewhatevermate6638]

Everytime I see that you've uploaded a new video, I get so hyped up! I never knew that learning about language could go farther than just learning how to communicate with others, and I'm totally here for it! Please continue making these videos, even if it takes awhile. I'll wait as long as it takes!

[@alexvasilachi9558]

There are some weird similarities with Finnish. there is the difference between back and front vowels and the word kele in that old mongolian is kieli in finnish (meaning the same thing) edit: vowel harmony in old mongolic, finnish and ungarian which is kinda interesting 🤔🤔🤔 another edit: many noun cases in all 3 languages

[@zsoltsandor3814]

And with Hungarian too. Oh, and "blue" is "kék" in Hungarian.

[@liv5645]

Finnish and Hungarian are related, though quite distantly by now, they're both members of the Uralic languages, which are hypothesised to originate around, well, the Urals. Which is absolutely fascinating, because what's *also* incredibly similar is the Turkic family, including (obviously) Turkish, all are heavily agglutinative, with loads of cases and lots of derivational suffixes, vowel harmony systems... It's so wild how seemingly every language family from the Eurasian steppes seems to approach grammar in almost the same way

[@ers4690]

@@zsoltsandor3814 🇰🇿Kök / Gök🇹🇷 🇲🇳 köke / Ğöke 🇭🇺 kék 🇰🇿 Alma/Elma🇹🇷 🇲🇳. Alm 🇭🇺 Alma 🇰🇿Baatur/Batur🇹🇷 🇲🇳Bateer 🇭🇺Bátor 🇰🇿Saqal/Sakal🇹🇷 🇲🇳Soqol 🇭🇺Szakall 🇰🇿Sarı🇹🇷 🇲🇳Shar 🇭🇺Sárga The sounds is similar when saying these words.

[@keptins]

@@zsoltsandor3814 and Kök is blue / sky in (old) Turkic

[@vazul666]

@@ers4690 what would Alm and Zsakal mean? As a Hungarian, I do not recognize them. However, alma means apple, and sakál means jackal. Maybe you mixed them up?

[@ishanshah7521]

Thank you for sharing another excellent video with us! I hope you’re doing well. We love your content, and language.

[@HenrikP97]

A really interesting video! The Mongolic languages are ones you rarely, if ever get to hear about, so it's wonderful that you've taken the effort to present its features and history in so many videos. It's a fascinating family, how it's spread, and how Kalmyk still stays present, far, far for the Mongolic heartland.

[@lt419]

Khalmyks are Oirat Mongolic people who had to been separated from the motherland Mongolia. They had to settle deep in Russian land due to a bitter and tragic historic event.

[@dan339dan]

The change from kaxan to kaan is interesting, because referencing from the Chinese poem, Ballet of Mulan, the word khan is 克汗, pronounced in Mandarin as "kehan" [kɤxan], Cantonese as "hakhon" [hɐk̚hɔn]. This linked up for me personally much more between the Chinese and English pronunciation.

[@ahather]

great video, I would love to see more explorations of language families particularly those less commonly learned in the west, particularly I would love to hear more about a family you mentioned here, the Tungusic languages.

[@АрсаланНанзатов-и4ь]

Why ? It's dead

[@ahather]

@@АрсаланНанзатов-и4ь as far as I understand the Tungusic language family is not dead, there are at least a few still living if endangered Tungusic languages, admittedly according to Wikipedia, there are some 75,000 native speakers. as to why I think it would be intersting to learn about them, well, IDK gotta pick something

[@jugdertemuujin4014]

Where u r meet the tungusic people? They extinct in Russia and in China, they no more manchu and evenki can communicate in they native language! They assimilated by chinese and russians respectively that’s end of tungusic race.::....... :)

[@mrmimeisfunny]

"One of the most common sounds in the world: /p/" يبكي بالعربية

[@jawad9757]

😄

[@Just4Kixs]

Haha poor Arabic!

[@mrmimeisfunny]

@Andrew Goering It was a joke.

[@juch3]

What about /dʒ/

[@Ida-xe8pg]

@@juch3 They have a [d͡ʒ] sound ج (Classicial) but it has different pronunciations in Maghreb and some of the levanti dialects [ʒ] and Egypt [g]

[@semaj_5022]

Yayy! This language family is super interesting. I'm glad you took a deeper dive into the whole thing. I'd love to see more videos like this about overarching language families and their origins and relations. Maybe a look into Altaic as a whole? Or the differences between Japonic and Koreanic languages?

[@gcircle]

Loved this episode. The Mongolic family seems so fascinating!

[@ShubhamBhushanCC]

I'd love to see you do a video on Dravidian languages, especially on Brahui the language used in Afghanistan and Balochistan which is Dravidian but is isolated and far away from South India

[@ShrekOwO]

OMG YES DRAVIDIAN LANGUAGES! I would love to see that as well!

[@peterk.9571]

Is that the language that might be a descendant of Harappan?

[@deekshas3936]

YES!!

[@WealdaLupinus]

@Master Yoda we know that Indus River valley descended into many civilisations, it probably gave birth to proto Dravidian. And then Tamil. But so many dialects of it descended many other languages. We find Kannada. A few old inscriptions. Proving the Dravidians were in the north. We know that Dravidians were the first migrators to India, they first arrived in ice age. Once the fall of the Harappan civilisation due to climate change, they went to other rivers. One of the rivers is suspected to be the Saraswati river that arrives in Hindu mythology. I theorise that the Dravidians documented, long enough for the Aryans to incorporate both the river and the prototype of lord Shiva. The Aryans included the god that the Dravidians prayed just to make them practice the new religion. Archeologists still wonder what caused the Dravidians to be pushed back to the south. Some say the Aryans were a fighting tribe.

[@FirstLast-hz8ut]

@@WealdaLupinus I mean, they’re is references where Indo-Aryans mention that they kicked out the Dasa’s out of Punjab. Maybe the Dasa’s were Dravidians? But the most likely theory is that Brahui migrated to modern day Pakistan in the 1000 because it lacks vocabulary from Avestan.

[@erufailon314]

I've been hoping you'd do Mongolic - thank you! Excellent video :)

[@ubelmensch]

Finally a video about Finland

[@Ida-xe8pg]

No i think it was about Greece

[@jugdertemuujin4014]

Ты откуда знаеш ? Славянин? Много обших слов и выражений, построения предложения с венграми чем с финнами

[@scottwilson8499]

How original

[@eugenic12]

@Kee R Видимо у них там в Финляндии это типо считается шуткой.

[@PC_Simo]

@Kee R The video was about Mongolic, yes; not Finland/Finnish; but genetically we are almost certainly more closely related to Mongols than Scandinavians, which we are all too often mistaken for. Still, not very closely at all, but that just goes to show you, how little relation we have to Scandinavians, or other Nordics. It’s like Estonians and Baltics; or Celtic and Turkic peoples. 🙂

[@rabidtangerine]

This is one of my favourite videos that you've done. A lot of them, while interesting and entertaining, leave me generally unsatisfied and wanting more. The way you dug in and got into the nitty-gritty of the whole family and its history was excellent. I hope you do more videos like this.

[@mansionbookerstudios9629]

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[@Saturos02]

I had no idea double declension was an actual phenomenon. That is incredibly cool, to think of all the possibilities it enables!

[@tomrogue13]

Add it to your conlang!

[@Saturos02]

@@tomrogue13 Already have ;)

[@tomrogue13]

@@Saturos02 awesome! I'm struggling with one declension lol

[@BigLoloFrmDaO]

RIP Golden Sun

[@SocialistFinn1]

Apparently "kele" used to mean language AND tongue in Old Mongolian and it's still "khel" in Modern Mongolian. That's amazing, in Finnish the word for language AND tongue is "kieli" now and used to be "keeli" in Proto-Finnic and "käle" in Proto-Uralic. I'm not sure if Mongolian and Finnish are actually related but these types of similar words, and the structures as well as the regions of origin for these languages really make me think that we are related.

[@jokemon9547]

Linguists have tried to connect those two words, but nothing conclusive has came of it. It is treated as coincidence more than anything, which is true for many other basic words/concepts common in Eurasian languages.

[@ptptpt123]

fantastic to see you with regular uploads

[@memelordmarcus]

Last time I was this early everyone was speaking proto indo european

[@edmind47]

Quid iam?

[@Rhiwwers]

And Fenno-Uralic!

[@servantofaeie1569]

technically we still are, just a bunch of very late forms of it.

[@servantofaeie1569]

@MC King yep.

[@peterk.9571]

Last time I was this early, Proto-Borean was only a DIALECT

[@seanpanick6555]

Great, video. I really enjoy these longer, in depth videos.

[@starlakelsey2782]

I shared this link today with my SIL. I hope she enjoys this as much as I have. So much info in such a short video. Thank you. Always enjoy your new videos.

[@karaiwonder]

I’m waiting for the Tupian language family and how just one of its branches expanded and conquered all half of South America from Guyana to Uruguay, while the others divisions stayed mostly in the same area in the middle of the Amazon. Similar to Austronesian where there’s great diversity in minuscule Taiwan but one branch ventured out to Madagascar and Hawaii and New Zealand

[@tyleri.4219]

I love how educational it is. I’d never heard much about these languages or even places until you made a video.

[@stevelapointe180]

Love your videos. Whenever they pop up on my subscription list, they immediately get out at the very top of my to watch list.

[@luizfellipe3291]

At the start of the day I thought I it would be a bad day, But when I saw this notification EVERYTHING got better

[@luizfellipe3291]

Sent you a hug from Brazil

[@magellanicspaceclouds]

Amazing! Let's keep this going. More historical linguistics, please!

[@daniellee2965]

You know you've done something wrong in your life when you watch youtube so much that you have achieved that god-level status of coming across a video posted only a minute ago. I should probably be doing my online homework instead of watching this. Goddamn it.

[@miquelxavier8204]

I feel you so much mate

[@Ida-xe8pg]

*I FEEL U MAN*

[@ekmalsukarno2302]

Nativlang, I hope someday you will make a video on Bantu noun classes.

[@Bushwhacker-so4yk]

Ekmal Sukarno Aren’t there, like, 25 of them?

[@ekmalsukarno2302]

Bushwhacker 1278 Regarding Bantu noun classes, I don't know how many of them there are.

[@mansionbookerstudios9629]

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[@kiro9291]

these videos are always an adventure, especially during times like these stay safe out there nativlang

[@DerangedManiac12]

"should we even be describing mongolic with the tree model?" *Deleuze and Guttari have entered the chat*

[@22ChampagneSupernova]

Y’all mind if I r h i z o m e

[@OliverBenson2024]

calypsis Who or what are Deleuze and Guttari? 🙂

[@DerangedManiac12]

@@OliverBenson2024 a philosopher and psychoanalyst who proposed an alternative to the usual tree model of thinking, called a rhizome, where there is no clear start or end and instead just a mass of interconnected roots (like ginger root, for example)

[@stephen0793]

Dude I came here to say this! Rhizomes!!

[@stephen0793]

However, you spelled Guattari's name wrong!

[@markmayonnaise1163]

I'm really glad this less casual, more in-depth style of video is back! I got a bit nervous during the Georgian video and the first and to a lesser extent second episode of Mayan tenselessness that these vids were going to get more and more shallow as time went on. Keep up the good work, and hope things continue this way! Look forward to the wave model.

[@eduardo-ur4nj]

I really enjoy your videos about the origins and connections of languages, Mongol as been a favorite of mine for a while now so this video is two times enjoyable!

[@irubjaejoong]

I like your idea of a wave model. That’s where people go wrong in studying Altaic in general. And mongol would be a good start to demonstrate languages families unfurled many way, not just the Indo-European model. When you try to apply indo-European “laws” to nomadic people with varying degrees of contact and reencounter through history, you start to see those languages take a different route.

[@Giaayokaats]

Ah, I've missed your videos! Thank you for this awesome explanation of the layers of Mongolic

[@crassinula]

I get so happy every time you post a video :)

[@ashildrdorchadon3258]

Yay! I like these in-depth language analyses, although the historical overviews of past videos were also quite cool, possibly even better than the in-depth-ness.

[@aworysse]

köke/xöx (meaning 'blue')... that's damn close to 'kék' in Hungarian, which shares the meaning and quite some in terms of proncounciation. Love watching your videos and on top finding out more and more about where we Hungarians may have been, hung out, came from, had possible interaction with. (And love the fact that I was the 1988th to like this video - it's my birth year).

[@eugenic12]

actually you would be surprised to know how many similarities both languages have.

[@xlarge7370]

Valid for turkic branches too

[@UraharaNaoe21]

This is one of my favourite episodes to date! Amazing work!

[@ertuncdelikaya8237]

9:36 He talks about these similarities: 20 - Manchu Jurchen "orin" - Khalkha Mongol "khori" 30 - Manchu Jurchen "gvsin" - Khalkha Mongol "guch" 40 - Manchu Jurchen "dehu" - Khalkha Mongol "döch" It's obvious that Jurchen borrowed those words from a Para-Mongolic language since they don't exist in other Tungusic languages.

[@tuvshinkhantaishir3910]

Manchu: Mini, Sini, Mongolian: Minii, Chinii English: Mine, Yours I found out recently. Manchu langauge has so many Mongol words. Like Morin, Honin, Hota, and your name is Mongolian too. Ertunts and Delhii (Universe and World).

[@ertuncdelikaya8237]

@@tuvshinkhantaishir3910 I'm not Manchu though. lol I'm Turkish and so is my name.

[@tuvshinkhantaishir3910]

@@ertuncdelikaya8237 i know you are turkish. There over 1000 words that are still same. Ben turkce konusabilyorum ama one besh yilde hic konusmadigin icin hepsini unutmusum ya.

[@07shingi]

Awesome as ever! thanks for the knowledge and lang!

[@hyhhy]

5:39 As a Finnish speaker, I was taken aback by the old Mongolic word "kele" that means language. In modern Finnish, "kieli" means language or tongue, and the proto-Finnic form of the word was likely also "kele".

[@lubieplackixd9223]

just more just gimme more of that brilliant content

[@durstein]

These are always fun to watch. Thanks, stay healthy

[@oz_jones]

Very cool, thanks NativLang

[@sara_s_]

It's interesting that "köke" meant blue in Mongolian. In Old Turkish, blue was "kök".

[@UNKNOWN000247]

In Hungarian it's Kék

[@indranilbose9454]

@@UNKNOWN000247 Heh Kekistan. The blue land

[@m.kostoglod7949]

Altaaaic

[@ferretyluv]

sara s You’re starting to see why Altaic was so popular.

[@aslanfromnarnia339]

Same in kazak tili "kók"

[@pmd_birdman7891]

I love these in depth language family showcase videos, I love your content!

[@catzrule001]

so exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is exactly what i needed

[@percyparker923]

Amazing video I look forward to every single post on this channel 10/10

[@edwardcai7892]

Awesome, love these journey across the steppes. Would always love to see more.

[@Ida-xe8pg]

Me: *Has English exam tomorrow * Also me: *Lets learn something about Mongolic languages!*

[@jean-pierrepotgieter1892]

Thank you. You are some kind of super hero when it comes to languages! I love all your videos. I would love if you did a video on Afrikaans, my mother tongue. It should be extremely easy for you, since it's not a complicated language derived from dutch and extremely similar to Belgian (Flaams). PS. Thanks for all the hard work you put in for these videos.

[@GyacoYu]

Chakhar has also retained the -n/-ng difference and is the standard form of Mongolian. It also retains the i and ï difference.

[@talcual2138]

I'd love you to expand on converbs!

[@caileighgouthro1365]

Thank you for posting these informative animated videos. Quite interesting and useful knowledge. Thank you for your flexible, progressive approach in sharing this knowledge and thank you for sharing. Great video.

[@matt.s9607]

Great video! I was very excited for wake up to this in my feed!

[@newtonop]

Great video NativLang! Appreciate it.

[@cl4655]

i love your videos about different language families!!

[@chessesandwich9607]

Thank you for making this video:)

[@katelynkickbutt2552]

Hello mongolian here. Going to a school is the capital, the default is kalkh mongolian. But I gotta say the current Cyrillic system has grammar changes every 5 seconds so spelling of modern words really gets thrown around. And sometimes comparing old mongolian script and current writings can be very veryy confusing

[@Ida-xe8pg]

The reason they branched out so much is because they were a small population spread over a large area Edit: bruh

[@rosy3986]

Yayyyyyyyyyy finally a new video thank you for your hard work

[@nehcooahnait7827]

5:03 Hoh-hot~ Blue City (of the eternal heaven), the Capital city of Inner Mongolia, PRC... Ulaan Bataar~ Red Hero, the Capital City of Mongolia...

[@shagaigan326]

Ulan-Ude ~ Red gate, Capital of Buryat

[@eaststorm1282]

Shagai Gan in the meanwhile Elista - sandy place, the capital of the Kalmyks

[@shagaigan326]

@@eaststorm1282 Just found out that there is a place called Bortala (Brown steppe) Mongol autonomous prefecture in Xinjiang.

[@eaststorm1282]

Shagai Gan yes. Bortala is one of the remaining Mongol areas. the other is Bayangol. this wikipedia has a list of Mongol areas in China (excluding Inner Mongolia) - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongols_in_China

[@nehcooahnait7827]

@@shagaigan326 I always found the ‘red’ part very communistic lol considering Mongolia people in genera adopts blue/glue for cultural symbolism

[@TM-fe9us]

Mongolian here , i am so happy that you actually put so much effort to do this ! 😌

[@Lightweaver123]

I love this stuff so much! Thank you!

[@TheXanian]

Please do a video about Tai-Kradai. I'm Southern Chinese and I really hope that you could shed me some light on the origin of this family. A lot of Han chauvinists and sino-centrists on the Internet claim that it's part of Sinitic or Sino-Tibetan, however I feel that the Tai-Kradai has some very deep connections to Austronesian, while its connections to Sinitic are mostly due to later borrowings or areal diffusion.

[@servantofaeie1569]

thats exactly correct. they are distant relatives of Austronesian and have lots of borrowings from Sino-Tibetan.

[@dashnyamkhurelbaatar1318]

Thanks for a such educational videos. Animations are so good too. Keep do what you doing man

[@twistysunshine]

Ohhhh the noises that are so common are all so pretty. I'd love to learn one of these dialects

[@LucasDimoveo]

Please do a video on the Yakut and other Turkic-Siberian languages. What lies north of Mongolia has always fascinated me!

[@Brillemeister]

I couldn't believe the sudden Indo-European-esque prepositions of Moghol. I wonder if any grammatical borrowings happened in the reverse from Mongolic to IE? Thanks for uploading! God bless

[@kameyouho4597]

Quite a lot of people believe that the Monguor in Qinghai are direct descendant of Tuyuhun. It may be right at least they named themselves "Tuhun". But the kanguage they are speaking does not show similarity with Huis T inscription but only the f- initial instead of h-. It has chance to be from proto mongolic p- initial. But it still not quite sure.

[@SolarGranulation]

It's good to see something like this again. Thank you.

[@kacperwoch4368]

8:20 ''du ci'' looks almost like ''do ciebie/ci'' which means 'to you' in Polish.

[@kacperwoch4368]

@nihilismful Polski i mongolski nie mają ze sobą nic wspólnego, ale polski i perski (o wpływie którego mowa właśnie w tym fragmencie) już tak.

[@lt419]

Just remember that the vertical Mongolian script is called " The script of 9 dialects", meaning that it can accommodate 9 different Mongolic dialects' writing needs. Certain letters can be pronounced differently according to that specific dialect.

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Mongolic languages*

[@erentoraman2663]

The turkish long vowel also arose due to two of the same (or similar) sounds smashing together: papağan is pronounced like pɑpɑːn (ğ used to be pronounced ɣ but is now silent)

[@Ida-xe8pg]

So there is no G or J sound in Turkish?

[@erentoraman2663]

@@Ida-xe8pg There is a normal g sound in turkish like in guest or gold. The g with the breve on top is pronounced differently. There is als a j if you mean the j in jam or jet, written with a c.

[@PC_Simo]

Gotta love the ”The Grammar of Romance” -theme, in a video about the Mongolic language family 😆.

[@jackjensen422]

A video idea (that I'm sure you've thought of / had suggested but here we go) - if you you were to assemble a language from the most elegant, expressive, and interesting parts of the many languages you've researched for your videos, what would that language sound like and what would its grammar and writing system look like?

[@erde3629]

I loved this new episode !

[@Great_Olaf5]

Great video, I would tend to argue for the wave model to replace trees generally, not just in this particular case. Languages with adjacency almost always bleed into each other with enough time, and "enough" is highly variable. It's really difficult to really categorize some languages when you're only allowed to have one "parent." English being the example most relevant to me, but it seems like the case here as well.

[@blankblank1284]

While I disagree with your statement I do say English is a very good example of the point you are trying to make. Considering the fact that we lost the majority of West Germanic inflection due to influence by North Germanic Speakers who invaded us. We also had many changes due to the Normans. Leading English to be barely reconizable as a West Germanic language. The closest related language being Frisian, which sounds nothing like English. Romanian would probably be another example due to heavy Slavic influence. ------------------ Why dont we use both models, Tree method it good for showing how languages are related, while wave is better at showing how they influenced eachother. Just becuase one is heavily influenced by somebody else, does not mean that they are no lomger related to their parents. A high degree of divergence does not change where one came from. Your Orgin is set, undeniable, unchangable, no matter where you end up the place you started would remain the same. Thus Tree is better at classification and showing relation / inheritance. As it is important to know exactly where a language originated, even if it is more closely akin to other languages unrelated to itself, due to either close proximity, loan words, or a full on Sprauchbund; we would still want to display where it came from. ------------ Sorry for rambeling, did not expect to go on for that long. Just wanted to get all my thoughts out (Well, I could go on longer, but this is a youtube comment, not a thesis).

[@Great_Olaf5]

@@blankblank1284 Well, I'll admit that a wave might not be the most effective, but trees need modification. A lot of language roots more closely resemble genealogical trees than what we currently use. You can absolutely narrow down to a point, but the branches go both forward and back, a web might be a more accurate term. Languages continually diverge and consolidate, and they do both simultaneously. Even as various regional dialects of Anglian, Saxon, and Jutnish merged together to form Anglo-Saxon, new regional differences emerged and some old ones were preserved. Another good example is the Franco-Germanic region; you can easily call French, German, Dutch, Frisian, etc. separate and distinct languages, but if you travel along the border regions, it's practically impossible to say where one begins and the other ends, the languages bleed into each other at the edges of the places where their speakers live. And that's not exclusive to languages in the same major family, I've heard (though I haven't looked into it as much) that you can see the exact same kind of gradual bleed in the Uralic languages of the Baltic states and Hungarian with their Indo-European neighbors, and the Semitic languages of the Middle East with *their* Indo-European neighbors. The Dravidian and Aryan languages of India. Hell, it's not even limited to land contact, Japonic and Koreanic languages share so many characteristics that it was thought they were related for a long time. So, while I don't particularly disagree with a lot of your points, I still feel that trees currently fail to capture the nuance of interrelations between languages adequately.

[@blankblank1284]

@@Great_Olaf5 Thats why I said we should use Trees along with another method. One to show relation, with another to show influence. Most languages have some degreepbleed, though French and German don't as French is Romance, subbranch of Italic. While German is descended from High German. Sub-Branch of West German, Sub-Branch of Germanic. They are too far apart from one another to undergo gradient blending. Though Trees do not show all the complexities of it, they do well to show where it came from, which does guve a general idea of its features, though in some cases, like English, this doesn't work. Though English still has a vast array of Old English vocabulary. Vocabulary is something that is always transfered downward, though it still would make new words overtime that would replace old ones. Basically they are still useful, even if they are incapabke of cathcing all of the nuances, they still are good at giving a general idea along with giving a very high degree of specificity and organization. ----------------- Any form of graph displaying how languages relate to one another would be a mess. At leats any 2-d Graph, as a 3-D Model Graph could use distance along Z in order to go to different families, and you can place relatives up the Y-Axis. So Y would display the Age that a language became its reconizable form. Like lets say The West Germanic Family is Z8 to Z14. With East Germanic being Z15 and North Germanic being Z1 to Z14. English would be like a Z8 or even a Z7. Though would have no lines drawn to it from other North Germanic Languages. With rather the line from Anglo-Frisian leading into (Z7, Y1066) I only came up with this at the top of my head, not sure how well it would actually work.

[@blankblank1284]

@@Great_Olaf5 Many similarities between Japonic-Ryukuan and Koreanic were due to two things, 1: Both Taking Loan Words from Chinese 2: Japanese Occupation of Korea Between 1910 and 1945 Japan Occupied and ruked over Korea. Causing a large degree of loan words to saturate their language. Though this influence had been happening long before, becoming expecially prominant after the Japan-Korea Treaty of 1876. Though it became massive during and after Japanese Rule and Occupation. Phonologically they are nothing alike whatsoever, Japonic-Ryukyuan Languages have such little similarity to Koreanic that I dont see how people thought they were related. I am not as knowledgable on Korean Grammer as I am Japanese Grammer, so I can't really say much about their similarity in those aspects. ------------------------------ I did at one point speculate that Japonic-Ryukuan and Austronesian were related, somewhat like how Indo-Aryan, and [Balto-Slavic, Italo-Celtic, Hellenic, Germanic] (The European Branch of Indo-European) are. Due to their Phonology, being largely open-syllable and being based on 2 - 3 Character Syllables, with a Consonant followed by one of a small array of vowels, allowing a Coda consonant, but only with certain consonants. Though their vocabulary has no proof of that claim. With there being little to no similarities in that category. They also aren't all that similar grammatically. I was a wee lad, just getting into the field of linguistics.

[@sahteekrem]

Fascinating. Please keep on.

[@peterfireflylund]

Loved it!

[@reidmccain6302]

I find linguistics fascinating but die to a lack of resources I can’t really explore my interest in it, you video help give me an avenue to explore my interest.

[@oliviablake3177]

youre doing gods work. keep on keeping on!!

[@lazaruschernik18]

Thank you for this. Awesome video. :)

[@newenglandgreenman]

I love this stuff. Thanks!

[@kostastsiagas511]

Make a video for the world's most remote and unique language. By the way very good video

[@alisonberzins1107]

It's probably Sentinelese, but they don't seem to feel like chatting with linguists much.

[@apache1434]

Glad to see Khitan get some recognition. A book recommendation if anyone wants to read about it. Daniel Kane's The Kitan Language and Script. It can be expensive but in my opinion worth the price.