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@shanardsmith218 Жыл бұрын
My manga has martial arts tournaments. I think it's a great help.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
@@shanardsmith218 I'm glad!! Thanks for watching and good luck with your manga!
@animanco6833 Жыл бұрын
tournament arcs will never be tiring. It is the apex moment of any series.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
FACTS
@Marzdanger Жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@andrewkong274811 ай бұрын
yea i dont think naruto was any better after the chunin exams
@sirmel11 Жыл бұрын
Tournament arcs definitely should continue to be used. They're a great way to introduce characters and help the characters grow in a short amount of time. People that are tired of them are definitely looking at things too deeply.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@italolxd3128 Жыл бұрын
Tournament arcs are great. It allows writers to introduce characters without worrying about the plot and plan the future story out based on feedback. They sometimes bring back past characters who show of their new powers so they are sometimes hype as well.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
Very true!!
@joseruizdiaz9622 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely not outdated; it's just a matter of refining it, perfecting it, improving it. Adapt it to your story; it's all about being creative, and innovative about it.
@atomykebonpyre Жыл бұрын
I like how JJK puts a twist on the tournament arc that I don't see a lot in the form of the culling games. Instead of a proper structured tournament its more of a battle royale, and the characters are actively opposed to the games and want to put a stop to them but must act within the imposed rules of the game to do so.
@Ditteauxessay10 ай бұрын
This is such a good point
@PimpDaddyShrek8 ай бұрын
I agree, i juat wiah the execution was done better 😢
@emiliabaran6830 Жыл бұрын
I personally love tournament arcs. I. EAT IT. UP. EVERY. DAMN. TIME. And like you said, it's a great way to introduce a lot of new and cool characters, powers and relationships. It's fantastic for character development as well. My personal favorites are Heaven's Arena from HxH and The Grand Magic Games from Fairy Tail.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
Great choices!
@animanco6833 Жыл бұрын
As someone who love tournament arcs and currently trying to create. This will be helpful. As usual great video and advice.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
That's awesome to hear! Good luck!!
@inesatt1313 Жыл бұрын
I always love these! Their possibilities are endless!
@ItsJustArtemis Жыл бұрын
Your videos are always so helpful man . Keep it up🔥🔥🔥🔥
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
Happy these can help!! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
@StoryOfGaiden Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the trope of the tournament getting interrupted by some villain lol
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
True true! I personally don't like that trope, especially when the fight is built up like Vegeta and Goku in the Majin Buu arc. Definitely happens a lot though! I should have mentioned it if I remembered it while scripting lol
@polygonail1978 Жыл бұрын
My favorite tournament in all of anime is in YuGiOh ZeXal with the Duel Carnival Arc. Unfortunatelly it doesn't happen in the manga because after the original, all anime versions of YuGiOh have a completely different canon. The fun of early ZeXal was the factions. You got our boy Yuma being in a solo faction, Kaito, Gauche and Dolowa working for Faker and Thomas and Chris working alongside Tron. All of the duels are memorable and the final duel is amazing. I highly recommend you watching ZeXal. The start is alright but once the tournament starts things become peak real fast. All of the duels have a confrontation between 2 factions which makes each of them special. ZeXal is GOATed.
@robertfitzgibbons2165 Жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the type of story someone is making for a tournament arc. It works well if the story characters are training to become something or for an event. It works great for a sports related and fantasy stories. I use the tournament arc as the mid point of my stories and the beginning to the climax of the story. For example, I have two stories that have a tournament arc. The first story I am calling Beast Lords, the two main characters are training to become knights of their kindom and the tournament is to test their skills. But during the tournament something goes wrong in one of the events and they are forced to use a power they kept secret to save everyone. Because of their ability they are branded as enemies of their kingdom and have to leave the kingdom for survival. They go to the neighboring kingdom for safety. While there they discover why they have this ability and reconect with family they didn't know existed. The second story I am calling Reborn Kings, the nations of the world come together to celebrate the anniversary for victory against the underworld. The main characters are reincarnations and are trying to find their old comrades that also reincarnated. They all meet during the tournament and fight each other to test their abilities. Towards the end of the tournament, the gods of their world appear and inform everyone of the up coming war against the underworld. The main characters and their comrades identities as the gods champions are revealed. They are then sent on a final test by the gods, to reclaim their old weapons before the war begins.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
Great points! Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and how you approached adding tournament arcs in practice! Both of those applications sound like they work for different reasons!
@vainqueurhero8823 Жыл бұрын
After two years I ask you this 😭 I'm just glad you finally did it.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
Sorry for the wait! Tons of topics on my to do list! I appreciate the suggestion!
@Guacko Жыл бұрын
I'm slowly writing a manga plot for some characters. I've got some ideas and 0 structure, but i know my mc will learn a lot from a tournament arc
@fraeofficial Жыл бұрын
Tournament arcs are a shonen highlight! I love them!
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
Same!!
@hellishot5224 Жыл бұрын
i was thinking about creating a tournament arc thank you for the information to make it easier!
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that! Good luck!!
@ShawnTheInvincible Жыл бұрын
One of the best arcs ever created for a manga or anime, will never get tired of these
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
SAME
@JushSam Жыл бұрын
Tournament arc you didn't bore to watched cuz you love to notice every detailed on the story all cool characters in one place and going each other after another none stop fighting scene Modern manga using this concept record of ragnarok Baki,kengan ashura,blue lock
@harsyakiarraathallah2222 Жыл бұрын
the Best Tournament our the Ones with actual Hight Stake. Like the Darl Tournament Saga.
@project_u_gamer5383 Жыл бұрын
Good advices ! Thank you
@azariahspence8551 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! This is quite helpful!
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
I'm glad!
@Bern_the_tired Жыл бұрын
Great video as always, I think it depends on what kind of story it is as what happens in it that determines whether or not a tournament arc is needed
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
True! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
@jda7667 Жыл бұрын
After seeing this I am a little disappointed that they didn't have a tournament arc in demon slayer
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
TRUEE, that would have been fun! They kinda replaced it with the Hashira Training Arc, but it wasn't really a tournament arc. The manga story moved pretty fast so I assume the mangaka just wanted to head towards the conclusion
@noahmart01246 ай бұрын
Steel ball run is one big tournament arc (and we love it)
@Ch1pandsalsa Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see this guy collab with osp
@Fl0xzY Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to make a video about how to create good conflicts in a shonen anime ?
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
Yes! It is on my list!
@Creative_Welshman Жыл бұрын
Hunter x Hunter has the best tournament arcs, simply because Togashi likes to flip the concept on its head like at the end of the Hunters Exam. My series The Victoria Investigations doesn't really have a tournament arc in it but I'll look for ways to incorporate aspects of the tournament arc into the story, find logical places where they would make sense.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
That could be really interesting! Thanks for sharing!
@carverkain5226 Жыл бұрын
Gotta show love to the 🐐 question though, any tips for a “who done it” type of tournament? My MC is investigating a gang that uses enslaved ghost for illegal prize fighting bets. Problem is there’s multiple gangs/ kingpins participating. So the MC goes undercover to figure out who’s pulling the strings. I want to have a twist ending, but that’s never been my strength
@dedrik14616 ай бұрын
Keep at it yo! Sounds like a really interesting concept
@zoddai5950 Жыл бұрын
It only depends on the series, but I think tournament arcs are ageless, period.
@probablyabtsfan1715 Жыл бұрын
Suddenly I feel so bad lol the tournaments in my story allows any scheme to win including murder😨😨
@xavi2285 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about how to write a stoic character?
@KnightReiteRx7 ай бұрын
I know most tournament arcs are used to push the Protagonist/Deuteragonist(s) past their limits against allies, but for my story, I'm having it start around chapter 4 (35 paged chapters) to serve as a way to show how much stronger the 2 main fighters in my group are from other basic students, and to have the 2nd main character enter the story. Always disliked tournament arcs for the most part being super formulaic, so I wanna make something that stands out/doesn't follow all the same tropes as other series' takes on them.
@Czar_Art_10 ай бұрын
I’m thinking about doing the main story of my manga a huge tournament with some power system cause my favorite manga arcs was tournament arcs, but I’m not sure if I want to go with that story
@MonitorComics10 ай бұрын
Tournament arcs are always cool! When you think about it, a series like Yu Yu Hakusho was mainly a tournament arc! So it could work!
@relife3348 Жыл бұрын
The best tournament I ever read is the Battle angle alita universe tournament arc there is no tournament arc that I have read that is close to being as good as that one.
@tuber420Ай бұрын
Cell Games really isn't a tournament. It's a King of the Hill bout, and even then, not everyone fights Cell in the end.
@MightGuy15 Жыл бұрын
I love tournament arcs, but I do feel like they are a little outdated. Many great titles don’t have them at all and anything you can gain from tournament arcs can just as easily be gained from writing similar to what Jo Jo’s bizarre adventure did, where are you just introduced a bunch of people and made them fight for a prize (be it someone’s bounty, someone’s respect, because they just don’t like the other person, etc) and get essentially the same effect.
@sirmel11 Жыл бұрын
I'm just starting to watch this but I don't think the Cell Games is a good example of a tournament. There's one fight and the other side only has one person on it. The Chunin Exams are probably the best tournament arc I've seen. I liked the Hunter Exam a lot too.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
That is true! For Dragonball, there were many tournaments, especially in the og manga, which is why i spent a good amount of time on the World Martial Arts Tournament. I wanted to mention the Cell Games though because it had a few of the most iconic scenes from the series in it!
@sirmel11 Жыл бұрын
@@MonitorComics I wish Dragon Ball Super did another tournament like the original series! I didn't like the Tournament of Power.
@saon_edits Жыл бұрын
Me as soon as i see someone talk abt Hajime no ippo in his video: *clicks subscribe button*
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
SUCH A GOOD MANGA
@daylannorman Жыл бұрын
I love tournament arcs and it will stay. My is dragon balls tournament of power and record of Ragnarok
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
Amazing choices! Thanks for taking the time to share!
@Axelblaze10226 ай бұрын
My favourite tournament is the 43rd Annual Tōtsuki Autumn Election in food wars. This arc was so good that i thought food wars could become the most iconic shounen animanga in the 2010s(too bad that season 3 and 4 of food wars was mid and decreased the value of the franchise)
@drquem42799 ай бұрын
Man, Piccolo Daimaoh and Tambourine never participated in a Tenkaichi Budokai. The video is Great but some details are just wrong.
@bigking2743 Жыл бұрын
What if I want to make a tournament manga like God of highschool or Kengan Ashura
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
It is possible! Shaman King is another example of a series where the entire plot is a tournament arc!
@polygonail1978 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see YuGiOh getting some love! One of the most underrated manga of all time. Blame it on 4kids.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
TRUEEE
@neodeer9338 Жыл бұрын
6:22 is that Russian ?
@watchinglearner Жыл бұрын
For me, best tournament arcs go to Hunter X Hunter, Yu Yu Hakusho, and Food Wars.
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
Great picks! I wish I remembered Food Wars when I was scripting this, the tournaments in that were really fun!
@cr7hd162 Жыл бұрын
W but no naruto
@sykosomatik23 Жыл бұрын
So much incorrect info about Dragonball... the tenkaichi budokai takes place every 3 years, not 5. Also, grandpa Gohan and Spike the devilman didn't participate in it. They were in Fortuneteller Baba's tournament. And demon King Piccolo didn't participate either... it was Piccolo Jr. who was in it...
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
The Grandpa Gohan Match: universal-dragon-ball.fandom.com/wiki/Goku_vs._Grandpa_Gohan The other two I did misremember, but it's not a big deal. No clue why you're triggered over trivial information that doesn't change anything
@sykosomatik23 Жыл бұрын
@@MonitorComics I'm just pointing out incorrect information. And the link you posted shows that Grandpa Gohan was in the Fortunteller Baba tournament.
@Itz_Nirvana07 Жыл бұрын
I am from 2040 and bro is still Milking, sorry Promoting Skillshare 💀💀💀
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
They pay bro, gotta get that bag
@Itz_Nirvana07 Жыл бұрын
@@MonitorComics You are like their "Brand Ambassador" dude... But Love you bro ❤❤ I learned so much from you ❤❤ Also pls make a video on "Training arcs" I am struggling with that so much 😢
@MonitorComics Жыл бұрын
@@Itz_Nirvana07 I can definitely add it to the list! Thank you for taking the time to watch my stuff, I'm really glad they can be helpful!!
@VacuousCat11 ай бұрын
Well, Harry Potter used it twice
@Its-Rolo6 ай бұрын
Hunter x hunter doesn’t have tournaments.
@XonTheOne Жыл бұрын
heavens Arena was Boring in the anime
@polygonail1978 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see YuGiOh getting some love! One of the most underrated manga of all time. Blame it on 4kids.