Monkey King, Dogs of War, Nagash End Times DLC 'Confirmed' - Total War: Warhammer 3 Immortal Empires

Creative Assembly is apparently working on three DLCs that might just represent all they are going to do going forward with Total War: Warhammer 3 Immortal Empires.
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[@Costin_Gaming]

Cathay DLC: More or Less Confirmed by CA themselves in their ToD QA. Manny Model is in Game Files and plenty of sources claim it. Dogs of Wars: More game files indicating this and various source, including Legend and Great Book of Grudges, Great Book called out the free LH for Khorne before it was announced. Nagash: Indicated on Total War Center, Legend and other places. P.S. The 'Confirmed' in the titles is in quotation marks for a reason! Obviously subject to change.

[@NotNewButYork]

Also: Thanquol is confirmed as "will be coming to TWW" Boris and the Red Duke will "have their day in the sun" The Hot Pot (Halflings, probably as part of DoW) was teased. The Monkey King is at least teased for some point in the future "not monkeying around" I believe it was also confirmed/teased in the run up to ToD that Bugman will make his appearance in one form or another. I'm still unconvinced that Golgfag Maneater will be an Ogre lord for the upcoming one. I think he will be the monstrous lord option for DoW, having a combined Ogre/DoW roster and serve as the 3rd lord alongside Lucrezia Belladonna (caster lord) and Borgio the Besieger (Knight in Armour). Mydas the Mean would probably be a Paymaster LH for all of them following the Chaos Dwarf model of race packs. Ogres and their merc mechanic would then be fixed in the accompanying update. I cannot imagine the next DLC not to include Slaanesh for the simple reason that by the time Shadows of Change released the roadmap still stood and ToD was already in production, which means the next DLC was in pre- production. Contracts for external artists had probably already been made, designs were possibly already made. I cannot imagine them throwing this work out the window. Maybe they shuffle it around and use it later, but the only reason why would be to cater to community expectations. It might be though, that DoW is the next DLC and Monkey King and friends have been pushed back a slot (that's what I'd do to gain some distance to the disaster with a race pack, which is basically guaranteed to be a banger and to prevent Cathayflation). SPECULATION: I still think Dechala the Denied will be the closest to a Naga we're gonna get. Snake themed Slaanesh monsters are also still curiously absent from the roster (eg. "Boobsnake" (Daemonic Mount of Slaanesh), Pleasureseekers/Painseekers (Daemonettes/Knights riding these), Serpents of Slaanesh, the serpent bodied champion of Slaanesh (for a hero)). If you combine these with Slaangor and the Dread Maw (a chaos associated Snake Monster from the Monstrous Arcanum tat has been moved to Kuresh in lore) you have your DLC lineup and solved the Kuresh conundrum. Open up the region, put the Monkey King into southern Cathay and Sealord Aislinn (from the Storm of Chaos Book (Sea Patrol was in the same lineup as Slayer Host with Malakai and Garagrim) - note that Lothern Sky Cutters and other maritime themed High Elf units are missing) into the Tower of the Sun or the Gates of Calith and you got your DLC.

[@lolcatjunior]

They mentioned halfings in that same TOD post that mentioned monkeys. Halfings are a faction in the both the Dogs of war and Empire. They come from the border princes region. They have their own version of the steam tank, Hot pot catapults and archers mounted on swans.

[@leonfriedemann9151]

​@@NotNewButYorkthat sounds quit resonable and would actually be more interesting to me than just ogers and monkey king.... Even if i would have loved to see kuresh😅

[@BittermanAndy]

@@lolcatjunior I don't remember the swan-mounted Halfling archers, that must have been VERY, VERY, VERY old stuff. Wouldn't expect to see that again. Hot pot catapult and archers on foot, sure.

[@BittermanAndy]

@@NotNewButYork three LLs for DoW seems a lot to hope for, to me. Think you're probably right about Lucrezzia and Borgio... and Golgfag would be interesting to put in their roster instead of Ogres, that's true... so maybe he'd be a third. But that'd mean DoW (basically two of the most minor nations in the Old World mashed together) have more LLs than actual Ogres (vast Kingdoms in the East, and an active army in the last few editions of the tabletop game, which DoW weren't). I can't see it, not after they've been ignored for all this long.

[@PhoenixInferno]

The monkey king isn’t a follower or even a believer in tzeentch of any chaos god he’s a neutral party in cathay hates chaos as much as the dragons do, great vid tho.

[@recreantraze5248]

This is exactly why they need to deliver more then these 3 dlcs that are rumored and really show they can continue high quality support for a game amd finish it in a way that is respectful Because they haven't ended support for a game well in a long time if ever.

[@SuperDoggy99]

Thanquol should be added as an agent of the Grey Seers, with access to vermin lords, a build-a-boneripper mechanic, and some kind of "luck mechanic".

[@anthonymichael1259]

What i want the most is a rework for Lizards, fixing Teclis, a DLC for Vamp Coast and Counts and id like a Free LL for Wood Elves with the rest of their wizards. It would be nice to get more units and stuff for Lizards and Wood elves since i enjoy them so much but i think thats not really necessary

[@ΩΜΣΔ]

Yes honestly CA would do well to realize a lot of the fixing in WH3 doesnt necessarily involve adding new units, just fixing and revamping existing stuff that didnt age that well from previous WH into imortal empires

[@hdrpointer4143]

@@ΩΜΣΔ For example Nakai

[@Frogjuice02]

Whats wrong with Teclis? Started a campaign with him yesterday but quickly abandoned it. It's such a difficult start. I am terrible at this game though

[@TheDarthMarko]

Teclis needs a rework asap

[@anthonymichael1259]

@@TheDarthMarko it sucks too because he's my favorite character in the lore

[@mauroferrari5518]

Personally, I was ok with ToD's format. I would gladly pay 25 bucks once more to get 3 legendary lords, 1 Flc, and 3 substantial reworks.

[@OtterMusician]

Well.. sure, but the reworks were free content. You didn't 'pay' for them.

[@mauroferrari5518]

@@OtterMusician true, they have to accrue the development costs though. You are not paying for them, but CA has to budget for them anyway.

[@donpizzaplays8529]

I said it before, if CA abandons TW Warhammer before it's finished, I'll stop buying any of their products. I hope CA understands that you can't have years of support and money from players only to say "it still needs more reworks, tweaks and bug fixing but we're done, let's move on" and expect people to be okay with that and buy your next game. So I agree with what you said at the end, although CA isn't happy with WH3 profits and would probably like to move on, ending Warhammer 3 in a bad/unsatisfying way will make the players abandon them. But from what I see, they do understand. That's why they're updating Pharaoh TW with a bigger map and added factions. They know it's not going to sell too well because that game was dead from launch, but they're trying to regain our trust. Same thing with Thrones of Decays and the hotfixes. So it looks like they understand.

[@guilliman1990]

Agreed I only have total warhammer I have no interest in the star wars stuff tho ww1 an warhammer 40k im keen but if they fuck us over here they will see those games fail

[@thefirstspartan1]

CA and GW have no idea how much money they could be making with Ind, Kuresh and Nippon - The popularity of the Chaos dwarves showed how good new races can do. And Shogun was an amazing success (total war and the series)

[@guilliman1990]

They straight up won't be near as popular as chaos dwarves they are maybe the best thing CA has ever created

[@ballysillansown632]

​@guilliman1990 meh I'd much rather play nippon than chaos dwarfs

[@guilliman1990]

@@ballysillansown632 id hazard you are the minority

[@glendaal67]

You are comparing one of the official 8th edition armies to some sidenotes in the lore. Don't get me wrong, I would love Ind, Nippon and Khuresh but they are not something most people are looking forward that much.

[@ballysillansown632]

@guilliman1990 I dunno samurai and ninja are popular throughout the world and appeal to even those without any warhammer knowledge. Chaos dwarves on the other hand not so much.. they managed to make whole games around feudal Japan, the same can't really be said for the chaos dwarves.... Nippon is just fantasy Japan much in the same way cathay is just fantasy China.

[@IKBENEENPAARD]

If they are checking the interest by these leaks. Let it be known. I want Norsca!

[@guilliman1990]

Agreed I can't play an get the achievement since norsca is just hoy trash

[@nicky640]

I just want the world finished. Those lands you can't enter are an eyesore

[@MidnightBlackandVictoria]

Its going to be extremely annoying if they skip doing Slaanesh and Khorne in the near future. These are "Main" races and Chaos was what a good portion of fans were waiting for over the course of 3 games, only to have them all launch with only one LL each. They did a fantastic job fleshing out Nurgle and Tzeentch (though I hope to see at least one more LL for Tzeentch before its all over), but now its very lopsided in the chaos factions....They should have stuck to their initial roadmap, fixing 2 old factions up while fluffing up each Chaos faction. We just got another DLC for Cathay, while they still sit "untouched". Its bad enough Chaos fans had to deal with their favorite faction being the WORST faction for two whole games. Its time they made up for that, and keep the promise they made that game three would be Chaos' time to shine!

[@Captain_Mckeggor]

Just a note, Loremaster of Sotek seems to think Ind is 100% guaranteed gonna happen. Not sure where his confidence is coming from but I thought its worth sharing.

[@Spyros_Michael]

I would like if they reworked some races without adding extra content via dlc, maybe alongside the .1 updates.

[@Project129]

I think Daniel and Ogres need reworks. I am still working on a pitch for a Daniel one, but I have one for Ogres that I hope others will listen to at least and do voice your opinions on it. 01. Starting with the simple changes, I think they need buffs on their stat lines or numbers to make them more viable With a bulk of them being low model count and large targets they need more bite to back them up. Make Ogre Charge only lose 25% or even negate charge defense entirely to make them even scarier, make their Ogres have higher melee attack and boost the stats of the Maneaters and the higher tiers. Make the Lead Belchers able to attack walls and towers, etc. These types of buffs are the most preliminary buffs they need. 02. Buildings in the Mountains of Mourn should be Ogre paradise. Not all these four slot settlements, but proper provinces with a nice, beefy capital area as a big camp of sorts where you can not only hire in big units without a camp nearby, but your allies in Co-Op can hire in the best Ogres money can buy. A simple change, but a welcomed one. 03. Camps are next on the list. The idea of camps as 'create a fortress' isn't bad by any means, but I think a mod called 'The Great Ogre-Haul' got it right when they made them movable forts which could be set up and shuffled around as you expanded is exactly what I think camps should be treated as. Make them mobile meat larders, recruitment, and generally a good way to cause headaches for foes abroad or make them hard-to-topple defenses at home. 04. The contracts need an overhaul, badly. However, I think the way to fix it is by leaning into a mix of Oxyotl and Snikitch's mechanics. You get contracts periodically from groups you are not hostile with, local or abroad, that has one of a small handful of general missions and maybe 'bonus' objectives. The bigger ones are 'Break Siege' which is what is says on the tin, they pay you to have your army assist in battle for a siege. Join Siege, same concept but in reverse. And lastly: Campaign Abroad. Minor objectives in it are 'Kill Lord' 'Kill Hero' or 'Kill Powerful Unit' to name a few. In all three you choose a contract, assign an army, and send them out which they'll disappear during the end turn as they are in-transit to the battlefield. Depending on mission they'll appear over the end turn (to break or support siege) or at the start of your next turn (Campaign Abroad). At the end of their mission they can or will be recalled back to Ogre Lands over the next turn or two to get home. For the mission 'Campaign Abroad' your army is teleported to the edge of the enemy territory, placed temporarily 'at war' with the target culture, and you are essentially encouraged to raid, sack, raze, or even capture settlements to harm and hamper the enemy force you are paid to fight (which if you capture during the contract you hand it over to your contractor). The more you disrupt, the more you're paid, and at the end of your contract you'll get the gold, meat, and likely items from outside the Ogre Loot Table as a reward (Prospector's Eyeglass is the best one I can think of on short notice) before your army is teleported back and the 'at war' status is deactivated. For players, if they have no hostile relations with the Ogres and are diplomatically available, you can hire them to do the same to your enemies or your cities for a large sum of money (Just as the AI can pay huge sums to send Ogres after you). The first three things I think are easy enough that it could be solved and implemented within a week or two, mostly for balancing and testing reasons. The last one would be where the bulk of the work needed to be done. What do you all think?

[@nolawargaming7461]

So, yes theres more information on Cathay than Ind, Kuresh and nippon combined, but to put that into perspective, there was about the same amount of lore on Cathay as the town of Pig Barter, so not a ton to begin with.

[@unvelo6725]

I imagine Thanquol would be a mobile faction a bit like nakai, working for and scheming against different skaven factions at any given time. They should and could do something special with him if they want to do him justice

[@TheOneBearded]

Unless Total War 40K actually releases next year, I don't see just three traditional dlcs being left. Unless funds are very tight or something. Single lord dlc packs could be slipped in too.

[@BittermanAndy]

They just lost $400M or something on Hyenas (not sure of exact figure, something ridiculous). I'm going to guess that yeah, funds are tight.

[@hemellicht]

how are your eyes not beeding with your contrast set that high? xD

[@Duranous.]

Apparently they are bleeding for other reasons 😞

[@sydalg95]

Too soon brother

[@mariusbehm9874]

they will open op ind with generic factions

[@BittermanAndy]

I'd be OK with that honestly.

[@SuperDoggy99]

It's a great point that CA needs to manage the rest of WH3's support well, and do their due diligence right up until the end. Their future games will be impacted by how well they end support for WH3. I still maintain that one of the main issues with WH3's negative reception was the fact that it was released in the wake of the "Future of Three Kingdoms" announcement. There were a lot of angry TW fans after the TK announcement, and when WH3 just didn't live up to the fan's expectations, it was just another reason to push back against what CA had delivered.

[@shrillcrayfish6168]

The numbers mason. What do they mean

[@revanlord05]

End Times is kind... the final note for the game. The Final DLC, if you will, it implies that it's the end.

[@TheJohnmurphy516]

Yeah a world war 1 game can not just be a Warhammer reskin. That would be stupid

[@ShadowPhoenixMaximus]

There have been a couple Khuresh models popping up, including GW redefining the Dreadmaw Forge World Warhammer Fantasy model as having ties with Khuresh. There was also the Bloodbowl model. Plus the Cathayan Dragons aren't all that interesting to play. The power ranger outfits for the Cathayan units doesn't help with tackling the issue of replayability either. Also the faction often feels like its an easymode choice compared to the Empire - who have to do a lot more with a lot less in order to survive. Having new races like Ind, Nippon and Khuresh definitely would make the Cathayan campaigns far more enjoyable and way more interesting than they currently are.

[@SuperDoggy99]

There's no doubt that the ill-fated launch of WH3 doomed its long-term support. Most people with a brain saw the writing on the wall in the months following WH3's release, especially when Immortal Empires was nowhere to be seen, months after the fact. That said, I think many of us were holding out hope that CA would somehow "right the ship" and get back on course, especially after the amazing Warriors of Chaos DLC. But then Shadows of Change happened (coming on the heels of the Chaos Dwarf DLC price increase), and it was all but etched in stone that WH3's life cycle was going to be limited. Clearly, the suits were making bad decisions again. I was surprised that CA retooled SoC--but, then again, it's not like they were going to completely ignore their "cash cow", right? In the end, though, they've just fumbled too many things. And given all of the layoffs, there's no way they can extend support now. We'll be lucky to get three more DLC's before the end.

[@kellyweldon9054]

Without a full game release next year, an already heavily discounted back catalog and by all accounts a very trimmed down organization, DLC revenue seems it would be paramount for the next 24 months.

[@ShadowPhoenixMaximus]

I'm still hopeful that CA will do a reskin pack for Mousillon. They could also do one for the Vampire Count faction in Cathay and sprinkle in some undead Cathayan units to make the faction more unique. Beastmen and Norsca with reskins would be nice too. Having some regional variety would be fairly straightforward way of adding more replayability the game.

[@Nyrf7]

What we really need is DLC featuring Yin-Yin + Vampire COAST LL + rework. We need Neferata as part of Bloodlines DLC for Vampire Counts! They deserve that big Champions of Chaos like DLC. Shut up and take my money CA!

[@davidmartin5034]

CA and Games Workshop have been consistently shady. I have all three games and all the DLC , minus Shadows & Thrones. I will not buy another DLC until I see a sincere consistent change from CA in their approach to customers. Seems like they get their hand slapped, then do good for a little while, then go back to the same bullshit, when the storm has blown over. They have consistently behaved this way and it's time to change. I am watching to see how they behave long term before I spend another dime on their game.

[@Nyal41]

I am a big fan of Khorne. So i think the MUST do a Khorne expansion somewhere more skulls and more blood must be gainable for Khorne!

[@Brett-rx8sr]

I find it very hard to believe that they won't get each chaos monogod up to three LLs one way or another before they stop making content for the game since that's where they took Nurgle of all things there. I'm still not convinced that the DoW are even happening in the way people want, but if they do, then three LLs for them (to match that of the Chaos Dwarves) makes the most sense. Personally, idgaf about the ogres and would much rather that Norsca gets some attention.

[@PowerOfDoi]

I think what they could do if they have the time/resources/moxxie/braincells etc. is: Cathey comes out -> Tanquol (we know they've said they are doing Tanquol, they been said they're gonna do Tanquol forever just don't know when). After that, order doesn't matter, but 2025+ since i assume cathay ogres and Tanquol are this year. Slaanesh - The Masque vs Khorne - Skulltaker. I know they've done Chaos vs order before, but let's not forget the chaos gods hate each other, and khorne REALLY hates Slaanesh. Alternatively, strew them out Slaanesh vs HEs, duh, Khorne vs.... Lizardmen? maybe? a sort of Rage vs Cold-Blooded. Dogs of War with Yin Yin the Sea Dragon as FLC. Cos you know, Sea Dragon thematically could fit a dlc of of Traders Mercenaries and Pirates. either way all this comes out in 2025, and this is stupid / genius part. Hold Nagash for 2026. As close as possible to the release of 40k. Because yes they're technically "competing" against each other, but at the same time we KNOW 40k is gonna be a buggy mess on launch, so at least CA can point to TW:W 3 and go "Hey look, you have the end time to play! (while we fix this shit 😅)"

[@apostolispat5462]

I cant believe that the series are gonna end without some adittions / rework for Norsca and without a full new faction of Cult of Urlick. Would like to know your opinion on that , any related leaks , rumors etc

[@krzysztofnosal4956]

Nothing to be angry about. They told us that " However, this is the business reality of supporting WARHAMMER III and ensuring we’re able to offer the years of extra content that are currently planned". You wanted them to work under this game for nothing, so now there will be no game. I feel like they abandoned WH3 when making ToD. This DLC is so shallow that it is no longer a startegy game. I expect Ogre Kingdoms rework will be like that. No gameplay changes except simplifying and then they gave us new OP units.

[@ONI09100]

they need to do a 3rd dogs of war character would be cool if they did Morgan burnhardt from shadow of the horned rat put him in the border princes or perhaps if they cant get permission for him they could do a daemon prince type character that has a bunch of model options and quest chain options that lets you make him or another completely random character

[@IlGrandeMagazzi]

Im starting to think that those Leaks are simply bs, Legend stated that the WWI game was going to happen next year as something sure and now the game is gone, and he did not mention Star Wars at all when he was talking about the future stuff. 1 thing is certain, if they leave out Khorne, Slaanesh, Norsca and other very important stuff im not gonna buy WH40K untill it's finished.

[@Costin_Gaming]

Things change though, I mean it's not the first time that CA changed their entire plan. Safe to say changed their plans a lot after Hyennas debacle.

[@IlGrandeMagazzi]

@@Costin_Gaming in 10 days? because i remember that the leaks mentioned by Legend were something like 1-2 weeks before the new leaks about star wars

[@mattyfryd]

Dont think CA would release the next DLC at the same time as Space Marine 2. Don't think GW would think it was a good idea for them to release two warhammer products at the same time.

[@JinxBfjv]

One thing I know is that I wont pay 25 bucks for 2 legendary lords.

[@wendigo7176]

does no DLC means no patches? cause they can just patch a race

[@HistoriaVids]

I will NOT be buying future titles, if they do not deliver a good send off to this game. I want every race, no excuses.

[@Ulfberht59]

I disagree with you Ind and Kuresh. No one thought vampire coast was ever going to happen either. If there is enough demand for it, they will do it. I even think Nippon could happen.

[@100kejimaeda]

Nagash with tomb king rework.

[@zhiphius]

If only 3 DLC's left, i don't get Yin Yin? Aww shucks lol. I want my impatient, impetous screw up of a dragon.

[@johngohchuanheng3417]

I hope the is a dlc about other vampire bloodlines include jadeblooded

[@guilliman1990]

Look. We need a final dlc / rework on norsca, vampires counts, elves *high an wood* lizardman also need huge TLC. All the races need to be pumped up to current empire an dawi standards no excuses

[@hdrpointer4143]

Nagash, and a Tomb king rewamp would be very VERY handy

[@mr.shinbone3677]

Ain't no way CA is straight out skipping Khorne and Slaanesh after having made Nurgle and Tzeentch! Like WTF

[@irsyadamir4166]

Yknow we getting free LL for khorne right ? Khorne doggo

[@ruru_dake6490]

​@@irsyadamir4166 Unless its just a Hero not a LL. Its just a free bonus, its not related in anyway to the content of a potential dlc dude. You cant compare a hero and a whole dlc

[@hyko8355]

I want a Cathay/Vampire Coast/Dark elves with lizard FLC

[@nicky640]

As long as they finish the world I'm good...

[@tong8865]

Fire Dragon Li Dao probably started in Fu-hung City because it was the capital of the Southern Province that he ruled.

[@Draxynnic]

I've been wondering myself if they're planning to do a map expansion. If they've ruled out Ind and Khuresh as factions, they might very easily come up with a justification to put the Monkey King in Ind (Journey to the West style) while Li Dao pushes into Khuresh.

[@PzPewwi]

It takes years time to build up a reputation but 5 mins to ruin it

[@davidbanks6658]

You could look at the mods. Valten for empire. In the mod he changes from hero to lord. There are a few other characters ib mods that do that. skaven, Thanqual with a vermin lord summon. Nagash would be nice but he's the last dlc end times lord. Vermin lords should be in the game in some form anyway. They should do something different and unique with whichever one they do. They will carry on doing dlc for as long as they think they can make money from it.

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

I suspect calling it the End Times would be controversial (and don't you dare put the words "age" and "Sigmar" within cannon range of each other). "Storm of Chaos" would be better received.

[@legatilegions8055]

Well dogs of war and Nagash is a must. Dont know about this money king, i rather they did a rework of norsca

[@lathamtk]

I've heard conflicting rumors about Neferata. The community really wants Neffy and can't imagine a full game 3 without them, but apparently CA aren't as keen on this particular faction as the community is...

[@guilliman1990]

Just stupid we the fans know what's good not gw an ca why on earth ignore us.

[@lolcatjunior]

Selling Ind and Khuresh would open them up to the massive Indian and Southeast Asian market like it did for China. Same could happen if they add Nippon and a korean faction. Asian warhammer market could be bigger than the whole west.

[@leonfriedemann9151]

I am stil hoping for a big vampire bloodlines dlc before nagash hits. ... They really do need a rework and love and at least 2 new lords to play with plus a new legendary hero and krell should finally be a hero... Later a jade vampire cross dlc for pirates and counts would have been the cherry on top. 😢 If we only get neferata ... Yeah .. Not buying any more stuff from ca than... I would like to fully support the game until the end, but if its the leaked dlcs ... Ogres + monkey king, dogs of war ... I am sadly not as interested in those ..

[@jonathankelly4222]

GBB is a giant poser. I don't believe. A word out of his mouth.

[@Costin_Gaming]

Well he did call the Khorne stuff correctly and he does have good relations with CA. Make of all that what you will. Though to be frank I ain't basing it on any one person.

[@jonathankelly4222]

@@Costin_Gaming idc about if he's right or wrong. He's just a massive bandwagoner in the TW stuff. He didn't start making content for TW until it was convenient and timely for his pockets. I used to enjoy his Table Top content a lot.

[@ecargfosreya]

There’s no way she is only gonna do three more DLC for this game. They want that good money.

[@noavgg]

This plan will kill CA. To be able to do this the nest game most biasedly be perfekt, and from my experience and what i have heard CA is infamous for having buggy or bad releases. CA should releas more DLC to fix more of the factions that need it. not only to fix TWW3 but also to get more time to have a good release of the next titel. CA need to accept that the company is dying and they need to get back the trust of the user and it will take years. I personally think CA Should release singel faction DLC for 7-8 dollar every 2-3 month to cep up the momentum.

[@Ceiling_Gato]

nah I think High Elves and Norsca are definately getting a DLC, Kislev very likely too

[@Captain_Mckeggor]

If they want to sell future games they need the goodwill of the fan base. Stopping the support for this game too soon will create resentment that will spill over. 3 DLCs is just not gonna pull that off.

[@samhobbs9116]

All races regardless of DLC content should get a pass over and touch up before the end..

[@StevenWhite-j9m]

at this rate, I just hope we still get Thanquol

[@Indubidably0]

I think the Slaanesh and Khorne dlc's will still come as well. I don't care if they put in factions for Ind, Nippon, Khuresh. I just want Ind and Khuresh regions open for conquest and more LL's "Nagash is too powerful to be an LL" lol lmao lmfao. Mazdamundi is an LL.

[@Draxynnic]

If anything, Nagash is one of the few LLs where there's actually a justification for him to start off as a level 1 relative weakling and have to build up to becoming something powerful, since losing his power and having to regain it is something of a theme with him. Most LLs are characters who are supposed to already be at the top of their game at the time the game is set, especially if they come from longer-lived races.

[@alfarabi73]

No realistic shot it coming out on August, come on. Do you expect only a 4-month turnover between DLCs with all the laoyffs? When the last DLC came out, the next one was announced to be in a pre-alpha stage!

[@Vernon013]

Hoping this doesn't happen, but how sad would it be if End Times DLC came out after dogs of war with Nagash being the headliner and that was it.... 😢

[@eduardoribeiroucv9630]

Non sense another DLC for Cathay or Empire (DoW) since rhe last DLC were literally about them. Vampires makes sense, others dont

[@Starsteam1]

I need The monkey king and Neferata

[@KhorgosKhul]

No Khorne/slaanesh.......

[@t.k7five084]

It would be cool alos ,if the factions that just need one more dlc 2 be complete. Get those dlc. Before the main support ends.

[@dubuyajay9964]

Won't mean a thing if games keep crashing from Infinite Ark Spam. 🤦‍♂️

[@Duranous.]

So is Nagash planned to be the last dlc or is it the last dlc they have currently planned? If they were more successful and somehow decided to continue would they not release Nagash?

[@Costin_Gaming]

Currently planned from what I've seen and heard. What they decide to do is going to change, things have changed a lot as is.

[@Duranous.]

@@Costin_Gaming I hope that they change plans now that they've seemed to find their footing. From what I've heard the dlc for these games has a high profit margin but who knows what makes sense from their business perspective.

[@guilliman1990]

Nagash really should be the big one before an end times stuff tho I'll never stop playing any way star wars has zero draw for me

[@willowilson5753]

I doubt they officially and consciously Leaked content. Fundamentally unless this next DLC sells well. They may jump ship for more profitable game but im sure they will be concerned about trust. In an ideal world we have DLC and reworks until 2026 and leave the game in a good state but depends on budget for the game and the staff on the project

[@Costin_Gaming]

I'd be very surprised if Neffy ain't added unless they give Silver Pinnacle to Nagash as a start location. Though certainly I've heard a lot more mention of Nagash. TWC did mention Neffy though. Authorized leaks are a thing for many corporations.

[@Jasonlol73]

Still no Khorne??????

[@boxinsteadyeddie]

Idc how much they were banking on Realms of Chaos, it was a garbage campaign and that’s their fault

[@Grimmnight16]

Great book and legend are tools

[@rubenibanez6751]

Thanquol when?

[@gt4060]

what the hell, another cathay DLC followed

[@Thorgrim_GrudgeBearer_]

it's not 'confirmed'

[@MrStoltverd]

Two lords for Cathay? Ugh... I see another skaven situation. All dlc about the same race...

[@WayneTechGaming]

Fake news

[@rossjackson8259]

I hate lizardmen players whining for a rework. They’re totally fine. I get wanting some updates and spice, but a” full rework” is infuriating. Ogres, Norsca, Vamp coast. They need reworks. Vamp counts, monogods almost everyone need more than lizards. Only high elves, dwarves, need less than lizards. Even skeven need more than lizards because of the missing Thanquol. Their whining grates me

[@samot6369]

Lizardmen campaign is like eating raw steak, nobody wants a dlc for them(their roster is fairly complete), just a rework to their mechanics and to diferentiate factions. Besides, really skaven? They have been the golden kid of tww, each dlc has gotten them unique factions with unique mechanics(Skyre,Eshin,Moulder), they only lack their End Times content.

[@irsyadamir4166]

Yknow reworks does not just mean add LL 😂, Lizardment is very good, the only thing is the geomantic web, need something for it

[@Draxynnic]

Hahahah. Not sure if Poe's law, but I'll bite: So, tell me, what is the second currency for Lizardmen again? Not Oxayotl, not Tehenhauin, LIZARDMEN? Here's a hint: They don't have one. They're now literally the one race in the game where for many of their campaigns, the top of their screen is their gold and nothing else. Their campaign mechanics were viewed as lacklustre when they were released in 2017, and it certainly ain't 2017 any more - they've fallen WAY behind. The Geomantic Web that was hyped up in prerelease is a glorified commandments buff. Sacred Spawnings are a glorified quest mechanic at best, and there are far better quest mechanics in the game. They're commonly outmanoeuvred in their own territory due to the presence of rivers (that they take just as long to cross as other races despite half of their units being amphibious - a problem that vampirates have as well) that most other races in their territory can underway or otherwise teleport across. A race that is well known for strategic magical shenanigans in the fluff like teleporting armies around, triggering earthquakes, and raising mountain ranges to block the movement of enemy armies has... well, they have rites, one of which is just a gating mechanism for one of their lord choices, and another is just an emergency army recruitment tool, so they're not even getting much of that powerful magic feel from rites. Some of the DLC lords are fine because their individual mechanics paper over this somewhat, but Mazdamundi, Kroq-Gar, Gor-rok, Tiktaq'to? Laughing stocks. I'd be fine if it's JUST a campaign and lords rework - Lizardmen do have a lot of LLs and have a lot of units. Mind you, just as people justify Skaven getting a lot due to having a lot of variant lists and extra material on tabletop - there's still enough Lizardmen stuff from variant lists and the like that they could do another DLC if that's what it takes for a rework. I would agree that a rework could well be more along the lines of "building from existing foundations" than practically-starting-again-from-scratch reworks like some other races have needed - the foundations are solid. The problem is that what the Lizardmen have on that foundation is basically a stick hut when other races have mansions.

[@kapitankapital6580]

Please don't refer to leaks and rumours as "confirmed". This kind of clickbait is why I unsubscribed from your channel.

[@Costin_Gaming]

How about this: We have an actual statement from CA they are going to do another Cathay DLC. We have Manny's model in the game files. We have indications in datamined files that Dogs of War are a thing, we have multiple people with sources in CA that have said the same things. Sources that proved right on things like the Khorne LH. You don't want to believe that, that's your call. If using quotation marks is not enough to indicate that you should take it with a grain of salt as well as clear statements in the video that it's subject to change and may not happen as indicated. Also I'll just add this: In ALL my years of doing I've learned one thing very clearly: Listening to complaints is good, valuable and incredibly useful, listening to ANYONE complaining about titles, thumbnails etc. is absolutely NOT.

[@kapitankapital6580]

@@Costin_Gaming "confirmed" means stuff that has been announced by CA. Calling anything short of that "confirmed", regardless of punctuation, is clickbait. Do better. Or don't, I don't care. I won't be watching this channel anymore.

[@eliasgirado451]

​@@Costin_Gaming 👏

[@magnificentish891]

@@kapitankapital6580boo whoo

[@madhatten5123]

@@kapitankapital6580he put it in quotes. KZbin is built on click bait thumbnails. At least this video actually talks about what the thumbnail and title says. If click bait hurts you se deeply might want to stay off Yt.

[@TwistedThor187]

More skaven and cathay? Whooppee, two of the worst and most boring factions. ToD was good, if the next is monkey king ill give up.

[@Duranous.]

I heard that Suicide Squad lost 200 million so CA might not even be the biggest loser in recent years. It's rough out there.

[@WayneTechGaming]

Fake news

[@karolkwiecjasz9356]

I think CA will get back to doing a lot of their original plans after they got rid of the bloat and hyenas. Warhammer 1 to 3 is what paid their bills for the last decade and they have now to print cash to avoid more downscaling, where Warhammer 3 DLC is the safest thing they can reasonably do. There are also popular factions that could be subject to a Champions of Chaos rework where they rework 1 race at a time and dump 4 lords for it with some units outside of normal army books. As long as the race is popular, it will sell. The races that could work very well with this are the Vampire Coast, Vampire Counts, Beastmen, Bretonnia and Norsca. All of those are pretty popular factions and it's easy to breathe life into them with efford that doesnt force CA into doing soft reworks for extra factions. Ogres would also hugely benefit if it also had a Mountains of Mourn settlement rework but I am under no illusions that game 3 factions propably just gonna be touched in lord packs.

[@Draxynnic]

As I've said elsewhere: They won't be able to get away with as much for 40K or SW as they did for TWW. Warhammer Fantasy fans were essentially a captive market - the tabletop was unsupported at the time and any computer strategy game in the IP required going back to Mark of Chaos. With 40K or SW there'd be competition.