Monster Rancher 2DX Single Player Tierlist

[@bubalackgaming8892]

I was honestly hoping for a tier list like this some day, I think it's a fun topic considering how differently singleplayer and competitive work

[@TheJoker-my2xz]

Bro, this series was my child hood. I didnt realize it would have tier lists and everything. Thats so awesome

[@fastinradfordable]

Welcome home brother

[@DragonChief157]

After watching your guide and your run down on color pandora which is my first ever monster after i bought mr2 dx on steam carried me and help me win the game recently. Man, even though i only play casually and single player, drug training is so good. Such a big difference. Learning how to keep monster alive and using thoron to boost his attack was such a game changer. My young self barely able to reach S rank, ao thanks

[@clockworkseal2135]

I feel like Henger, Durahan, and Arrowhead should all be a little higher on easy to raise because even new players pretty quickly realize that nuts oil means you don't need to rest as much, but don't really get how important never seeing the stress messages is so the small extra stress reduction they get from the nuts oil means they'll generally get a pretty decent lifespan boost over time

[@dungeonrancher]

Oh man sick. I am gonna share this with some friends I am trying to convince to play.

[@EnderLatias]

Cool list! I recently picked up DX 1 and 2 on steam and have been struggling pretty hard to make any real progress. I’ll go ahead and try again with some of the easier to raise breeds!

[@evasmiljanic3529]

I mostly watch these videos to learn how to improve in single player so this helps a lot!

[@LinoonerBlue]

I can't believe you swapped the Hopper and Monol spot at the very end. For me, there's nothing more painful to raise than a Hopper. I have a grudge against those little guys.

[@cockaroach1458]

Yeah Hoppers suck. Hate training them. Surprisingly Int one is the way to go in my opinion. Lightning is expensive but it’s not bad.

[@gregtuff4020]

Kato was so easy to win with. I actually got twister claw really early on blue Kato and he was unstoppable.

[@screwtokaiba]

Yeah i think the sub adjustment is kinda hard to take account too in general for this list. Theres some where the base stats difference is so absurd that its worth a mention(Arrowhead cough), and combine influence can be huge in general like how Gaboo could normally have 4/3/3/4 gain with decent base stats eventually resulting in long chains of "this monster can go green/blue" for most breed I kinda love how the complicated bar is almost a list of "chronic substance abusing" mon

[@jessco8950]

I haven’t played this game in like 20 years and recently found it on iOS. My first 2 monsters(hare then tiger) made it to A rank then I did pheonix and destroyed S rank and won 4 of the badges/trophies. Pheonix is sooooo strong heat beam just nukes everyone and flame twister is so consistent for 2-3 hitting enemies.

[@Trendicles]

Man, this tier list kills how cool I felt as a kid for beating the game with a kato lol. I thought they were supposed to be hard 🤣. They are grumpy shitheads at first, after all

[@CleaveTheDragon]

I think what would have helped this video more giving a quick breakdown on what it means for something to be difficult to raise. The whole game is essentially menus, so difficulty to me sounds like “you need to know very specific steps to make this viable, some of which are counterintuitive” or “you need a lot of resources for this” or “you need good rng for this to work out”. I assume that “difficult to win with” relates to the actual battle mechanics and how its theoretical moves would play out… I think if you clarified that it’d help with understanding the placement more

[@Moosebones]

I explain exactly that for every monster on an individual basis. Is there a specific monster I didn't explain well enough for you?

[@AndrooTheNerd]

Ape is one of my favorite monsters to raise. You don’t even need errantry until A or S-rank.

[@allanturmaine5496]

I know this is a lot to ask for such a niche, but it would be cool to see a revision of this for automated nuzlocke play.

[@moomanchu608]

One thing you forgot to include is “ease to unlock”. I’d argue the easiest to win with includes some of the easiest monsters to obtain

[@Moosebones]

I thought about that but i wasn't about to include a Z axis lol. I decided it wasn't really important to the discussion since the topic was moreso "so i have this guy on my ranch, whats it going to take to clear the game with them?""

[@moomanchu608]

@@Moosebones mmm ic. As a new player to 1&2, ive had a hard time unlocking some monsters. Oddly enough, my recent monsters have not been invited to expeditions so i havent been able to get durahan yet. Its probably because of the lack of HP. Edit: seems like my fame was not high enougn because i’d only do the gemeni cup until i got my 10 pots

[@nopewmopan]

Charles was the first monster I beat everything with (Head Spike FTW). I think my second was a Wracky/Durahan. Thus began my preference for the raising the evil little doll.

[@drdotts8878]

I am having a lot of trouble with golems and suezo. They have bad nature and constantly cheat on drills and don’t listen. Any advice?

[@Booster_pack]

do you have a video on all the best sub breeds? thank you

[@Moosebones]

Metalner. If not metalner then pixie. If not pixie then plant and tiger. If you don't have one of those you're prob looking at the purebred or maybe suezo or joker.

[@Booster_pack]

@@Moosebones thank you so much. I’ve just picked up the game and following ur guides but there is a lot to navigate through and some of the useful info is hidden within the livestreams. 🙂🙂

[@user-hn2wc3fy7y]

hugely off-topic, but I can't seem to find a written resource anywhere on google stating the facts about tech types (unless it's in the manual or something and I'm an idiot). it's actually crazy that it's nowhere on LC or something. what exactly are special techs? just regular techs either pow- or int-based? thanks!

[@jaykknight2248]

Special techs are the ones you learn in Kawrea

[@fastinradfordable]

Blue hair In 2002 me and my sister were able to beat the game with no cheats by maxing out power and speed. Pretty much no monster than can out do a max 1-2 punch. And easy to max life so can take some damage. But max speed is very few monsters in the game that can hit you.

[@fastinradfordable]

Raise 2 of those. And combine them. And you got maxes blue rabbit in 1.5 years.

[@Moosebones]

Yeah hare is a great beginner monster for these reasons. Really fun to raise.

[@juancarlos12th]

I do agree with Monol.. tried raising it but its a bit too hard vs other monsters. Great analysis btw!

[@rjproduction486]

For me Phoenix is my go to monster in completing the story. Phoenix long life span can really help you train it for a long time as a result getting a 900 int and skill easily with a 700 speed to finish the legend cup.

[@abnats88]

Blue Kato Twister Claw supremacy. 🙇‍♂️

[@pokopoko14]

My brothers and I pronounce Kato as Cat-toh, Kay-to makes him sound like a Mortal Kombat character lol - just a random comment, my first one, but long time viewer. Always thought Mocchi and Zuum were the best beginner monsters, trying to recall playing this as a kid, they’re the most uncomplicated monsters, and usually it’s the ones with the low life-defense that turns people off when they get KO’d by Oakleyman lol Their stats make you feel safe, and as casual players, you mostly just get whatever tech and focus on building stats. Also noticed that for the most part, the X-axis is all about techniques, while the Y-axis is about everything else - stats, management, nature, lifespan.

[@fastinradfordable]

It is a cat As a kid that’s how we pronounced it

[@DanGanev]

I think Suezo is one of the most hard monsters to raise for me, bc he do a lot of cheats and failures in train, but it's a still good monster

[@DarkCT]

I don't even know how it happened, but i beat monster rancher 2 the first time with a Pixie Hopper Int build.

[@Nat.ali.a]

Because any speedster is easy to beat the game, just not for you first monster, because you need money to fund its first years. But after you reach the 900 spd you don’t really need to do much damage when you don’t take any.

[@hozyres]

What the function of disc chip?, i have a gali chip disc .

[@blapblapblapblap]

Love Undine, hate raising Hopper for it. lmao

[@logicalafternoon]

My backwards brain: So I should start with Hopper.

[@Moosebones]

good plan if you want to unlock everything

[@williamzeo2493]

I need to defend my boy Hopper lol, while I agree that casually he is a pain to raise (and I was a victim as well on my PSX days), but if we are taking about casual but with knowledge of drugs and tech chains then Hopper isn't complicated, his low damage actually is good for unlock the tech chains.

[@Moosebones]

You unlock other incredibly bad, low damage techs though. Plus everyone that requires drug training to function is in the same ranking as him tbh

[@williamzeo2493]

@@Moosebones I guess that's my competitive raising habit speaking louder then, but you said yourself that's incredible easy to beat the game with any monster and I vouch for that.

[@Nat.ali.a]

@@Moosebonesnot true at all, Golem need drugs for decent skill and you put him up there

[@Moosebones]

@@Nat.ali.a pick a subtype with good skill gains mystery solved you can now beat the game congratulations

[@Nat.ali.a]

@@Moosebones You can beat the game with any monster playing casual, you can even beat it with a stupid Mock. You seem to take a preference in raw power monsters and strong techs, monsters that will give you results even when they are young, but you can beat the game easily with speedsters, and sometimes to train these kind of monsters is more fun because of the challenge. I agree with most of your choices, but I think you started choosing for casual players, but by the middle of the video, your choices reversed to the competitive scenario.

[@CalebLLShow]

This guy : this games single player isn’t that hard Me still stuck in d rank 😭 I just want to unlock all the monsters and have a strong Phoenix

[@Moosebones]

My best advice is to wait until you have a huge amount of guts before attacking and try to attack only when you have more than your opponent. Even with underleveled stats this can be enough to carry you

[@IceifritGaming]

This is me finding out that there is a competitive scene for one of my favorite games wtf 😆

[@Moosebones]

perfect timing since the first in-person tournament outside of japan is happening at the end of may at Combo Breaker

[@BlackKoiRecords]

Ok, now I'm lost 😐. You made, what I thought in the past as satire, a video about Metalner being a joke in the game. Is it good or no? How (if it is) can it be good to beat the game?

[@Moosebones]

Metalner is the best monster in the game by a wide margin. If you want to know why feel free to check out my other tierlist vids. The Metalner Rancher Rundown was an april fools joke.

[@upanddownlevel9]

I raised a draco hopper that was pretty decent. I feel like with the right sub-breed, many of these have a good chance to be much more successful, though beating the game is difficult with a weak monster that has crappy tech, crappy stat gains, terrible gut regen, and a short lifespan/poor life-type... It kind of makes me think that a more nuanced list could include all the factors and isolate the truly best breed/sub or whatever, but who has time for that lol.

[@Ace-Vincent-Arevalo]

I remember during ps1 era. I summoned a worm (base only). tried to train that mfkr diligently but it often cheats the training. i froze that mfkr for a good 500 years.

[@artsyvids2563]

I think the issue with new players is baby monsters cant deal with a lot of training without getting tired and stressed, and don't make much stat gains. So they may give up not realising those improve later on. Funnily enough I'm not sure im a fan of cat since for some reason (its RNG and getting hit once killing you and still missing with 90% accuracy)

[@Moosebones]

@@artsyvids2563 the baby thing isn't exactly true, the main downside for babies besides the gains is that sleep only recovers about 80% fatigue and stress of what it does for an adult, but thats barely a noticeable difference for most players.

[@artsyvids2563]

@@Moosebones really cause it seems like teh stats increase by like 25%, a little later maybe 50%. it definitely ramps up hard at some point

[@Moosebones]

@@artsyvids2563 a monster has 10 discrete life stages that ramp its gains up and down but you don't need to change your training schedule for baby vs adult. Same training can be done it's whole life. Heres a video thats a bit old (first video I ever did with a voice over so I sound a bit sleepy lol) but all the info is accurate if you wanna learn more kzbin.info/www/bejne/epOZeH-GlpWVebssi=pzt2fRznYp76JMDb

[@artsyvids2563]

@@Moosebones im guessing i didnt want to buy expensive stuff at the start and was like "what the frick how are they stressed out already" haha but yeah I did end up finishing a casual playthrough on PSX without too much issue.. no real planning just drugs whenever lol When do you start losing lifespan due to fatigue and stress? I think I missed it, curious since the stress message pops up on week 1s

[@Moosebones]

@@artsyvids2563 It's in the video, we call it the Life index, but it's very hard to tell when you exactly start to lose lifespan without a lot of game knowledge bc the game never tells you

[@jaykknight2248]

I want bajarl to come back in a new game so badly

[@Booster_pack]

Can u pls do for ??? Subs like satan claus and white mochi etc

[@hakkbak]

I strongly disagree about Joker being simple to raise for casual play: for casual players, you can't get more than his basic techs (due due lack of knowledge of nature etc for casual players). And for casual players who don't know details about lifespan and nature, you can end up sending Joker multiple times on errantry and tanking his lifespan. Also, casual players don't know too much about training methods so they can stress out their monsters too.

[@Moosebones]

Do you *need* to know anything about nature for a monster that starts with -90 nature and only has bad natured techs? Joker is simple because every one of his techs is incredible, hes got great gains and can steamroll the game even if youre drastically underlevelled imo

[@hakkbak]

@@Moosebones The thing is, _needing_ knowledge of hidden stats (fear, spoil, stress) imo by default make raising a monster innately more difficult, as casual players won't know that those stats exist. When I was a Casual player, I probably had max stress on my monsters because I didn't know the significance of mint leaf or tablets. So you have to assume that casual players don't know about the hidden stats and fall into the mistake of over-praising/not mint-leaving. When I raised my Joker as a casual player it hit the deathbed before 3 years lmao. Not nearly enough prime-time to work with and best those of the likes of Loveless/Drewguard/Rouge. -Joker lifespan isn't forgiving enough for casual players to make big mistakes with. - errantries (with no resulting techs)could also further tank its life, because the Errantry guy gave you hope with "it may be difficult to acquire a new tech here". Yes, Joker has great stat gains. But there's so much you can do with a 2.5year old Joker with basic techs which is already past its prime lol. Compare this with something like Hare: -a basic tech with S % accuracy from the outset -great speed and power gains -no issues with getting better techs Statistically it's probably way easier to savescum an under-statted Hare and get lucky than a Joker.

[@hakkbak]

@@Moosebones sorry I didn't fully answer your question: I think with Joker it's *necessary*. When I tried it way back as a casual player, I couldn't even get to S rank because there just wasn't enough lifespan and the basic techs weren't enough. Maybe I sucked really bad back then though. Maybe we can try it out sometime

[@vi9720]

I beat most with my first monster with a suezo plant 😂

[@Moosebones]

@@vi9720 great monster for a first one

[@Vi-ob1yu]

Good vid

[@idenaid1101]

I like Jell and worms but hate mocks. Kato and mocchi are kinda boring to play in battle. I really want to raise Undine which I never got as a kid.

[@avatar2xl]

The problem with half of these guys is I never unlocked them when I was a kid because kids don’t understand half the mechanics lol

[@antie5459]

Finally! 🇧🇷

[@Circ00mspice]

I just realised you wrte Canadian by the way you say "about"

[@Moosebones]

Yeah bud

[@artsyvids2563]

beats the game cool surely i can make those rare monster disc things now "Im sorry to inform yo-" listen here betch

[@Nat.ali.a]

Nothing is worse than Mock for me