Monsters of High Gain - Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier II

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In this video, PG's Joe Coffey introduces you to the Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier II, while Ty Dietzler (Thousand Foot Krutch) and Misha Mansoor (Periphery) take it through its paces.

[@12ealDealOfficial]

I can't believe people consider these riffs "dad rock" now, but I gotta admit: I hear that mesa rec chug and it's "gimme the beat boys and free my soul"

[@guydude4124]

Whats with all the downvotes? None of this sounds bad at all..

[@alexwright1464]

It is because of all of the people who wish that they could get this sound and can't xD

[@skinnyjimmy22]

Alex Wright And its nearly 4 years old lol... mishas way past this stuff now, he gets better and better man! the band as a whole are awesome and its from mishas hardwork and creativity and persaveerance thats managed to create such a great sound, coz thats what its about this vid isnt it, the sound of the amp, not his ability to play!

[@TwoHeavyThrash]

Alex Wright Get the amp and a cab and you got it.

[@Roran109]

I love that Misha gives us guitarists with persistent concentration face some respect.

[@RichardGarcia93]

Haha cause he’d trying really hard not to be sloppy

[@mcg413]

Oh, it's always fun seeing a bunch of babies in the comments section bad mouth a demo with, you know, an actual mic on the cab, professional musicians, and editing. But whatever works for you guys with your improvised webcam demos. I bet they sound much better.

[@johnyang799]

with recabinet vst can blow this shit sound up...... It is not the gear but the micing....

[@OTCRock4one]

+John Yang You meant Miking, right?

[@lovemetal2467]

Ok. I understand what you're saying man. I totally agree with you. At the same time, could you perhaps explain why Rob Chapman's Video sounds far better. Here's the link.kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJfQdJyhndZ7g7s. Later.

[@terrylafauci791]

Just goes to show you that tone is subjective because I don't understand a single person on here hating these tones. This comment section is joke.

[@bandolierboy1908]

Well I don’t prefer the tone, i wish they made it sound like it had more low end but with a good amount of mids. Something like the black album guitar tone

[@EYOUTz1993]

Just because you don't like scooped mids doesn't mean it's the wrong way to play. I also play with scooped mids, it's what I like. It fits both their styles. And they aren't demoing their skill, they're demoing the sound of the amp. If you're curious, Misha is a fantastic guitarist, you can check out Periphery's stuff if you don't know it already.

[@Kalenorr]

The Tube Screamer takes this amp from being middle of the pack to one of the better amps IMO.

[@xxsharks4lifexx]

I've gotta say, the clean channel on this head is the best in this whole series, in my opinion. I know it's kind of pointless to talk about cleans, but when I'm buying a high gain amp, I don't just crank the gain and chug, but I look for the best clean sound as well, to give it versatility.

[@Beaver1969]

"We all copy Meshuggah" - Devin Townsend

[@cruzdrum]

to all the people saying misha's amp sounds like crap,you have to understand that the guitar is a mid range and upper mid range instrument. in the mix the bass takes up the low mid and lows thats the sound you hear in your head, you hear the mix of two guitars and a bass. when playing live or recoeding live the bass needs to be taken out of the guitar which makes the guitar alone sound like crap,but in context it sounds absolutly massive

[@alanharper1718]

Wow that sounds great man, so is this one of the best metal amps out there cause im defenetly considering this for the future?

[@thomasjwilson87]

Get it.

[@jeepmanxj]

Meh

[@Dpizzle504]

Their testing tone not their skill...

[@BaritonePapi]

I love how every video is Joe Coffey talking about the amp for two minutes, then Ty Gaywad plays for 45 seconds then the rest is Misha hahaha

[@londonhardcorekid]

Yes because it's not a distortion pedal. It's not meant to be used as the only source of distortion. It's meant to add a little bit more drive and tighten up the sound.

[@masteroftheobvious86]

And despite the filthy amounts of gain, extremely high clarity in each note.

[@SlickNic]

@UncleJoey12 the ts9 notably pushes the mids, and tightens up the bass. A lot of people utilise tube overdrive pedals to pronounce the mids, and tighten up the lows. I use a ts9 for my lead, but everyone is different. One of my friends used to use a ts9 24/7 on his boogie.

[@MEMastering]

Iam scared of the "rectum tracking" at 1:24! HAHA

[@sillyness3456]

@cynicown No. The Axe is a part of his recording set up. He uses a Diezel VH-4 for his rhythm guitars, as he said on his personal Facebook page. At gigs he does everything with the Axe, because it is far easier to handle in a live environment and it emulates basically every amp you can imagine at 90% of the quality of the original, without having a 20 kilograms of a guitar head with you. And by the way Misha uses an Axe FX 2 now....

[@KickassDrumr]

2:38? were is that riff from?

[@jackalfox332]

In my opinion, high output pickups don't go well with high gain amplifiers. It's subjective of course, but I much prefer low/mid output pickups. I play a Fender Telecaster '72 Deluxe that has been modified, better, more solid 3-way switch, wiring, brass nut, Seymour Duncan/Bourns 500k pots, .22 Orange drops, Hipshot tuners and bridge and the biggest difference is the pickups. I swapped out the stock Fender Wide-Ranges (that aren't really Wide-Ranges...) for a set of custom made. bespoke and real Wide-Range 'Extra-Width' humbuckers from a British company called The Creamy. The bridge pickup is 11.7k and the neck is 10.4k. For me, they're ideal for low tuning (I use Drop B) and they allow me to have the whole gain structure of my Rockerverb 50 MKIII without sounding muddy and sloppy. The strings contribute too, I use Ernie Ball Cobalts 7 string set with the .10 removed, so it's .62, .52, .42 .30, .17 and .13... Point I'm making, you don't need high output pickups, 7 string or higher instruments to get the best high gain out of an amp.

[@DomSchu]

I totally agree. But I like high and low output pickups, it just depends on the amp I'm playing through. High output pickups through my Recto sounds harsh and it takes some very careful tweaking to get a good rhythm sound, but then those same settings will sound awful for lead work. But low output pickups through a Recto sound incredible, heavy, tight, yet smooth and musical. Inversely, high output pickups sound amazing through lower-mid gain amps like a plexi or jcm800. Whereas low output pickups sound weak and puny through those amps without the volume cranked or a pedal in front.

[@MrJeezus]

5:38 The Predator and Fat Boy sound best on CLEAN!

[@danielcook911]

i dont care if misha just plucks a string ..hes shown me exactly what kind of distortion this amp has to offer ..no not the hardest riffs to play but a nice chunky sound ..im sold

[@danyeo]

There's been about 3 million albums recorded with Rectos that sound great. I don't need a crappy KZbin video of detuned mush guitars to sway me the wrong way.

[@francescobarbaro7114]

Yeah man, I totally agree with you!!!!!

[@sacredxgeometry]

Then WHY. ARE. YOU. HERE.

[@terrylafauci791]

I'm sure Cannibal Corpse is on that list and they have a tone very similar to the tone Misha has with that 7 string....i don't understand you people with your subjective prattle. Personally, I'd rather this then that overly High tune to Grandpa Rock. This is a high-gain demonstration after all.....

[@mateuszkucharski1350]

Man, Cannibal Corpse is grandpa rock? If Yes than grandpa rock is way better than this shit what they are playing now called djent.

[@carlitoxb110]

@@mateuszkucharski1350 Canibal corpse is boomer metal

[@Demonbane41276]

Best metal amps, but that price ffs...

[@barryb4407]

They are pretty expensive, I have discovered something else though that I love and is much cheaper and imo better sounding,,,,,that is just my taste though, the Laney Ironheart, try one for your self and see what I mean, fantastic amps

[@MrColmdonnelly]

Demonbane41276 You get quite a lot for the money, mind! I actually bought mine seccond hand - it is a solo 50, but I got it for about £500 in brand new condition.

[@jebay2252]

+Barry B yep I use one. can't beat it

[@MKRocker2012]

+Demonbane41276 Get a Peavey 6505, around about $900 bucks cheaper

[@YouSeeSorrows]

Honestly, for a 100 Watt tube amp... Dual Rectifiers are fairly cheap used. I've seen them as low as $800. I bought mine for $1000 two years ago and it's in mint condition (2004 model). You could probably find a 6534+ or 6505+ for a few hundred cheaper.

[@Benevolent710]

this has to be the best demo in the series.

[@kennyken7278]

I can't believe the second player is actually a Pro :-O

[@MagikFrogs]

You should look for his videos... he's a great guitar player.

[@cr0c0stimpy]

Elad Meyuhas Fair enough, but his tone in this video is butts.

[@kacperlewandowski2794]

Can't believe you did not hear about Misha "Bulb" and Periphery band before ;)

[@KompletterGeist]

he is a great musician. he does not only do the djent stuff you know. and his gear and DAW knowledge is huge as well.

[@KompletterGeist]

cr0c0stimpy i think his tone is great. its modern metalcore / prog metal tone

[@FungusLabel]

At 3:36 Misha is like "Man this amp is br00tal, gotta swap my engl for one of those."

[@wesleywhite9782]

how do these guys make a dual rect sound like shit , I dont get it unless the micing is really bad

[@noir4659]

that actually sounds pretty close to what you hear on most modern metal albums. You feel like guitars on those albums sound better because they are double-tracked, treated with a good amount of EQ and compression, and most importantly they are buried in the mix with kick/snare and bass

[@thomasjwilson87]

You should post yourself doing it better keyboard warrior.

[@DC-yb7qd]

Sounds worse than that fluff guys tones sounds like glug glug glug glug glug glug

[@grigno97]

Mesa boogie make the best distortion out of here, there are no doubts

[@tewnice6734]

wow, so much hate. everyone just RELAX. its called "monsters of high gain" so they are going to have high gain players, with high gain tones, playing high gain music. they are not bad guitarists or bad sounds, they are just not what you like or prefer. if you dont like the amp being used this way go watch another video

[@Nathan-dd2uy]

Mic placement was awful and the tone was dialled in by noobs. Monsters of High Gain with Ola Englund addressed these issues.

[@metalmichew2]

ola englund can't dial in a tone for shit. his tones are much worse then these. all that multi layer bullshit proves it, whenever he shows you his tone for that amp without the layers of gain and recording bullcrap it sounds really bad.

[@SpencerMaxfield]

metalmichew2 You do realize that guitars on metal tracks have been at least doubled (I'm assuming by "multi layer" you mean more than one guitar track) for quite some time now, right? As in for the past 30-40 years. Your comment would seem to indicate you've never recorded or mixed anything yourself. A great sound in a room doesn't mean a whole lot if it sounds like garbage when mic'd up and put into a mix. In fact, a lot of tracks in a mix (not just guitars) sound sub par when solo'd. But they fit the mix as a whole very well. That's the end goal - a good mix. And Ola makes some heavy mixes that sound great.

[@SpencerMaxfield]

Fair enough, if you prefer the sound of an open and clean mix there's nothing wrong with that. Whether a mix is good or bad is opinion to some degree. And I know lots of people who prefer that their record sound more like a live situation, which it sounds like you do as well, as opposed to a super perfect recording. I guess the point I was getting at is a good sound to a mix engineer and a good sound to a guitarist may not be the same. I play guitar and mix/produce. When I have my guitarist hat on, I like one sound, but when I put my mixing hat on, I don't care so much about what my guitar sounds like. What I care about is does it work in the mix and work for the song. That was my point about Ola's tone: he says himself he considers himself more of a writer than guitar player, and his main goal is to make good music/mixes. I think he succeeds at that. For what its worth, for years he's only used two rhythm tracks and only recently started doing four. So I don't think he is over-layering. Most of the thickness/fatness of his mixes come from the bass guitar.

[@shredx81]

@MrMesaDude Tube screamers have a very specific application. There are tones that you simply cannot reproduce without driving an amp's input signal. When you crank the gain on a preamp, it eventually breaks up & loses it's focus. The tube screamer drives the signal into the amp, allowing you to roll back on the preamp gain and retain your amp's natural clarity.

[@xBCxRICHx1993]

"Brown sound" hehehehe

[@Seannyoo900]

Brian Schurr HAhaha I just heard that, and thought did anyone else notice how "poopy" this amp is made to sound? Rectum...rectifier...haha

[@JonSellsOut]

Haha your name is Joe Coffey, that defines pure awezomness ;)

[@benjaminmorgan6208]

Guy cant play shit without his 2 gates, compressor and tube screamer in series.

[@DillonBerkley]

@FirePower3006 I looked on their website and they are both using the axe fx as preamps. They are still running the JVM410's. Chris only uses the JVM. Dave is the one running all the different preamps but regardless they are still using Marshall amps. Alwasy have always will.

[@81giorikas]

Terrible. Just terrible.

[@303MkVII]

I lol'd when he said versatile players

[@guygolan3685]

Is it just me or that misha guy looks like he has just started to play guitar

[@YoLpIsBest]

Go listen to some Periphery and you know.

[@Mistakenbacon]

It's just how he holds the guitar. A little awkward.

[@nostalgicaproject9114]

***** he said that he Learned it by doing

[@Sean2592]

Now that ive listened to all of these this Mesa Boogie and the Orange amp are the best

[@xxczerxx]

The worst amp demos on KZbin, this surely marred Misha's reputation as a innovative metal player. Especially given that he's trumped by some KoRn reject who thinks it's 1996

[@xxczerxx]

Graiskye I'm not trying to make it in the guitar, I am surprised given his prowess as a player! Chill out

[@jammyfacefook]

+Mac considering how much the guys in the 90's sold more than current Metal acts & popularity maybe its time modern metal players realise the whole heavier & faster is better actually isnt.

[@genericgeorge4933]

Sounds really crunchy and high gain, not a lot of clarity though. Would sound great if paired with an overdriven Marshall to get the clarity the mesa lacks.

[@electrodan999]

Hey "Bulb", theres already a band called "Meshuggah", stop with the off time garbage.

[@j8ded]

you obviously havent heard his band

[@metalkore999]

You obviously haven't heard Meshugguh young grasshopper. Your generation of music rips off everything from earlier bands.

[@j8ded]

periphery isnt a ripoff of meshuggah lol not even close

[@electrodan999]

says the guy with the Justin Bieber haircut. lol

[@j8ded]

justin bieber haircut and i still have a better grasp of knowledge on music than you nice going

[@msaintpc]

Jackal Fox, I like that idea about the strings. Gotta try that myself.

[@JurassicPaul-]

@ogardsveien you are right, he's got some pretty cool demos but keep in mind that he uses compression and eq over the recorded tracks.

[@brandonpaulofficial]

i have 6L6's in my dual rectifier roadster. However, i dont get that extreme solo tone that i want; sorta like a zakk wylde kinda ballsy high energy tone ya know? I use a delay pedal as well as some different types of different gain in order to find that balance, but i still cant get that remarkable solo tone that i want. Does anyone know if i should switch tubes maybe to like some El34s? Will that make the world of a difference for me? Or maybe i should Grab a pedal or 2?

[@angrytroll27]

monsters of high gain... now heres the clean channel

[@SwaggingRatz]

Listen to 5:11 doesn't it kinda sound like Rainbow Gravity? Look at the date when this video was uploaded!

[@seanevans1992]

4:11 Listen to the string definition of that chord, despite the intense amount of gain. That's what the Tubescreamer does to a Rectifier; tightens it up, and for lack of a better word 'cleans' it up! My own rig contains a Dual Rec with TS808 that comes on whenever the drive channels are engaged. Best drive sound I've ever had (and I've tried the whole Marshall, Orange and ENGL route).

[@wseeback]

Tube Screamer- yes. You add a light touch of it's overdrive to an overdrive/distortion channel. In front. Not the loop.

[@JulianEmdon]

3:34 is the 'this amp needs a fucking tube screamer' face

[@Kim2Sung]

Wait....I dont understand. Why is half the people watching this disliking this if anyone is around to kindly explain. All I hear in the comments is people bitching about Misha being a bad guitarist (of course that's explanatory considering that his own self project "bulb" started the band, got him prestigious tours, won numerous endorsements from 8+ companies including Ibanez, and even a chance to feature with petrucci on guitarworld magazine). And the Dual Rectifier isnt half bad!

[@ThomasMetal75]

"...loaded with Seymour Duncan pick-uppsaaah"...Thank you Ty!

[@AeolianSeventh]

@guitargod1598 Yup. Eddie left and took the 5150 trademark with him, so Peavey had to rename the amp. It was their company's fortieth anniversary--they started in 1965 and it was 2005--so they decided to use the years '65 and '05 as the new name. Oh, and the clean tone difference might be a biasing issue. Some 6505s are biased very cold.

[@kceovaisnt]

@goldeneye122 According to many sources, Djent is indeed a style. What you might be getting at is that it is not recognized as a "genre" of music due to its small following. If the style picks up a large enough fan base, it can achieve its own music categorization as a "genre". Until then, it's just a "style" just as I said.

[@Tviruskillu]

Misha is the fucking shit! This is no where near how great of a guitar player he is. Buttersnips is a great example of that.

[@LouSassles]

lady's and gentlemen i present "THE AMP OF THE 90's-00's !!!"

[@evelskunny1]

the drop tune train has left the station! lol

[@ChrisLarsenOfficial]

@muzapstar This is because: a) The amp is miced b) You are not in the actual room with the actual cab

[@TimDChandler]

This ad does not sell this amp at all, which is a great shame. But tbh we all know that it kicks ass anyway lol

[@ElectricTurkey1]

@Tonskiislegit Basically the Dual rectifier has the option of tube rectification, Bold/Spongy, and a switchable loop (2010 recto). The 50 watt difference actually has an effect on tone. 100 watts gives you more headroom so you can crank it a bit louder without breakup. The rectifier tubes add some sag to the sound...a bit more rounded i guess. I have a Roadster and I always use spongy and tube rectifiers. Look for a used dual recto. I've seen some go for as low as $800.

[@borderjumper67]

I guess people are mad that metal has EVOLVED over the years. -.-

[@SlickNic]

@UncleJoey12 pretty much. Sometimes an amp may have a muddy gain or a boomy/flabby bass so the TS9 can tighten that up no probs. It all depends on what you have, and about getting the right tone for you. Recto's are pretty boomy so it isnt a bad thing to try and tigthen up those lows, and push the front end a bit more. A lot of metal dudes do it (periphery, abr, white chapel etc)

[@Beschdinator]

@AeolianSeventh of course they are the same, the 5150 was just renamed to 6505, so its the same amp with another name

[@Machinefoot]

Loving the comments from all the bedroom guitarists saying what they think they know about proper amps...

[@tommorris2771]

The first person to ever put a ts in front of a dual rec deserves a special place in heaven

[@tjlongarms]

@TheGoryl1 they sound slightly different. not much though. the roadster has a bit more bottom end but its all a mattor of choice. the rec is a little bit more in your face and a tad bit more aggressive. and the roadster has a lot of tubes to worry about. i actually went with a single recto. i love the way it can muster great tone at low volumes and still get really loud. also the el34 gives it a slight jcm800 flavor and have the awesome power and tone and brutality of a mesa

[@snapascrew]

@spguitar don't blame the amp. it's how it's eq'd. people who complain about rectifiers make me sick. there's a reason why they're so popular... because they CAN sound GREAT. you have to think of everything..

[@10000rambos]

It's funny with the Recs. The thing that makes them inherently awesome is the thing that people try to pull out of the amp with a boost pedal. I love my Dual Rec with a boost. I wouldn't trade that tone for anything. That low end is the Rectufier signature.

[@spewkkake]

the solos in that track are jeff loomis, incase you didn't know.

[@johncartelli]

@kerkes145 I had a Mesa Maverick dual rectifier 2-12 combo cream color...I loved how it looked but hated how it sounded...I now run PV 75 and 120 Vypyrs, Fender Super Champ Xd, and 1983 Fender Concert head into a 2-12 cab.

[@grazianism]

@gearslut69 the cabinet is standard rectifier cab with 4 celestion vintage 30

[@Mike19Howland]

@Sean2592 yes i have the triple and it's a night and day difference EL34's are they way to go. I noticed a lot more power and punch when I switched to them

[@425V8]

@headbagger63 This is a demo of the new one. I played the new one at guitar center...I actually prefer my old 3ch the way I have it set up

[@AeolianSeventh]

@HurricaneTBag Oh, the 5150III is totally different. It's the amp Eddie had made when he started his new (Fender-based) amp company. It's got a third channel, among other changes. 5150 = 6505 5150II = 6505+ 5150III is the new model by EVH, Peavey doesn't have a version.

[@arlant]

Hi there, thanks for the presentation. Would you please review Engl Invader?

[@highlyevolv3d]

I love the overdrive on the amp, sounds as good as anything out there, cleans sounded a bit dull though...dunno if its just a matter of tweaking to brighten them up or its the amp itself

[@Madysaun]

with all the nice effects and money they make you think they could get a guy to hold the camera still xD

[@moosenamedjabon]

It sounds like a five year old dialed in these tones. They grate on the ears.

[@assasinator1980]

You have a huban mentality... Hail Huban. King of kings. Mesa Huban Dual Hubafier II.

[@Deershanked504]

@bluedevilxx you're a very impressive person for informing all of us how superior you are.

[@Blackbird5150]

@rigorhead01 wrong. Dimarzio Crunch Lab and Liquifier combo are actually fairly low output compared to EMGs, or Duncan Blackouts..oh and they are passive too.

[@trubasser6778]

The SM57 might be a very popular mic for recording guitar amps, however it is fairly colored. They should be using something more like a Royer ribbon mic to give a more transparent representation of the amp...

[@webbguitar]

Thank you Premier Guitar for helping us Recto owners show the trash talkers that a good sounding clean tone can be accomplished with this head.

[@Kozmojoe]

@butterknucklez I agree. If any of these amps, I'd be going with the Peavey 6534+ for my band.

[@bismarckrobles1987]

Misha with the Evergreen Terrace shirt nice! Got me a Triple Rec on a Orange cab! It’s too legit to quit.

[@aj51732]

@djworrall - I think the theory is that the main rail sags somewhat more with a valve rectifier at high load, which reduces the clipping threshold in the power section. So it's only going to make a difference when you are slamming the power section, which is only going to happen at stage volumes! Still, I suspect that the difference is subtle, and there's likely to be a bit of marketing shtick in there :)

[@dickieradd]

Some of the best nasty tones on KZbin. So many people show this amp off and never get these dark tones.

[@kceovaisnt]

@jaymzosborne111 He is playing metal like that because that's the style he plays. It's called Djent and he is one of the big pioneers in that movement. Playing Djent on guitar by yourself can sound somewhat goofy and random, but an entire band plays it and it's nothing short of epic. Search Periphery (his band) to see what I am talking about. BTW that guitar is a Bernie Rico Jr. custom. An extremely nice USA guitar.

[@Kozmojoe]

Letter Experiment! My favorite Periphery riff!! Woot!

[@frozenmammoth420]

@AeolianSeventh the clean on the 6505 is differant.the lead channels are virtually identical though, ur right on that

[@xrybearx]

I don't think this video was meant to showcase Misha or Ty's talent but simply to demo the tones of this amp. I ended up selling my dual rec after years of owning it because the tone wasn't satisfying enough to me.

[@TheDJHalfNHalf]

I think the point of good tone is not to be original or impressive (which I think they are. All the guitar tones in Misha's songs he uploads to sound cloud sound killer) but he dials in a tone to what fits/makes sense in a song, which he is pretty fucking good at.

[@mach234455]

Nothing perfecta and charming like a seven string with standard w tuning

[@scoobaseth]

@balls86ful lol... You're completely missing the point. I don't play a seven string guitar either... but its good to see that these amp's can handle a tone that heavy... Misha Mansoor's an excellent guitarist, and him playing a 7 string really does just give the demo a little more diversity... it's not like he wasn't playing high end stuff either...

[@AudicityBand]

Sound of TY Dietzler is great

[@sillyness3456]

@FeroxX Misha owns two Diezel amps, as visible on his Facebook page, used as his recording set up. I doubt that he hates them....

[@dvsdez]

4:51 "Did you guys see what I just did!? Worship me!!"

[@saltyapostle44]

I agree - for the life of me I can't understand what all the fuss about Misha Mansoor is about - he completely blows on all these videos.

[@basicoptimalmouse]

I'm impressed with that stretch tbh 😂

[@sid670]

@@basicoptimalmouse Oh how this thread has aged haha

[@WaffleTheAlmighty]

@zzzhuh ....There are different pickups, most likely different strings, different woods and different pots/caps in the guitar. Also your fingers sound differently than those of someone else, plus the way you pick.

[@corilfl]

@ainsleywalker I agree. They definitely created the tone and just told him to play it.

[@AeolianSeventh]

@Tommothe3rd Yesindeed. They had to rename it in 2005, which was 40 years after Peavey was started...hence 6505.