Monsters that a Witcher would refuse a contract on

[@pavlelazarevic5042]

Geralt refuses to kill Regis because he saw that he is a good guy. Regis, even at that point in the story, helped them on many occasions, save there lives, refused to drink blood, and saved innocent man just becuse it is a right thing to do. Geralt said that he would refuse any contract on Regis not because they were friends, but because Regis was a good person

[@gifgafgavintw3]

He says this as he’s kicking him out of the group so I doubt that and as I said had only known each other two days but you are correct that he had helped the group a couple of times, by letting them stay in the graveyard, helping the woman by who was accused of being a witch and helping Geralt escape the army camp. These things are open to interpretation but I think when you also consider how powerful Regis is described to be through the feats he achieves, compared to how powerful Geralt is in the book I think the answer is pretty obvious in terms of what Geralt meant. We can just agree to disagree tho, I respect ur opinion and thank you for the comment.

[@pavlelazarevic5042]

@@gifgafgavintw3 Cheers

[@ares1636]

@@gifgafgavintw3 Geralt also only kills monsters that are dangerous to people, and Regis isn't.

[@yuvraj6724]

@@gifgafgavintw3 you are correct. This is how the conversation that goes between Geralt and Regis.. Regis: ‘Goodbye. Ah, one more thing. How high would the reward be on my head for you to trouble yourself with me? How much am I worth?’ Geralt: ‘Bloody high.’ Regis: ‘Indulge my vanity. How much exactly?’ Geralt:‘Fuck off, Regis.’ R: ‘Of course. But before that, my valuation, please.’ G: ‘An ordinary vampire I would look at the equivalent of a good horse and saddle. But you are no ordinary vampire.’ R:‘How much?’ G: ‘I doubt,’ The witcher’s voice was cold as ice. ‘I doubt anyone could afford it.’ "

[@indiankid8601]

@@gifgafgavintw3 but isnt coroner nathaniel also a higher vampire? and geralt kills him in priscilla quest.

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

In defense of the games, most of these battles which make him seem a lot more powerful are encounters in which Geralt gets help from outside sources or is in extraordinary circumstances.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Very true, especially in the cases on the Kayran and Djinn

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

@@gifgafgavintw3 from the perspective of the Kayran it was an unfair encounter. Imagine fighting with one hand tied and a plastic bag on the head. That was the monster's situation.

[@thechainwarden]

@@gifgafgavintw3 Also I would also say that Geralt killing a dragon was due to extraordinary circumstances and luck. He didn't really kill the dragon himself as much as he just distracted to the point it crashed itself to the ground and impaled itself on a tree that just happened to be there. Kinda like if you are driving a car and a bug flying at your face scares the shit out of you to the point that you crash the car and die you wouldn't really say that the bug killed you.

[@TarsilyWasTaken]

yes but disregarding proper game design and putting yourself in the world of The Witcher, Detlaff wouldn't be any less powerful if Regis wasn't there, he'd have just had one less REAL threat to his life present and could focus entirely on Geralt, who could defeat him for moments but would eventually perish given time and a prolonged enough battle

[@anonymoususer7286]

Also for the dragon he wasn't necessarily aiming to kill her, he just wanted to drive her away from loc muine

[@TanakaMatsumoto]

I'm willing to bet Djinns can't even die. They're probably the most powerful beings of magic there is, they can conjure up pretty much anything, do almost anything with their magic. Even the most powerful sorceresses and sorcerers ever have nothing on even the weakest of Djinns.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

I would agree with that as I failed to mention really that there isn’t a known way to kill them

[@Justanotherguy83]

I was watching Witcher s1 yesterday and thought exactly this about the djinn, plus the one in Witcher 3 seems like it would destroy geralt.... Aren't djinns spirits? How can geralt hit them? They aren't wraiths

[@Zeb0101]

My take on the Witcher 3 is that they aimed to annoy the Djinn enough in order to get a wish if they leave him in peace, instead of actually trying to defeat it

[@yuvraj6724]

@@Justanotherguy83 There are 4 elementals. Air spirits are called djinns. These elementals are like reservoirs of Force which sorcerers can draw upon and manipulate that into spells. And yes Geralt cannot is in no way a match for a djinn. Even the most powerful sorcerers can only subdue the djinn and bind it to their will but that also not for long

[@raccoonofmotivation20]

I remember geralt asking gaunter if he was one, since they were both granting wishes, maybe some connection

[@gasterorigin6158]

The unseen Elder from Blood and Wine shows perfectly how powerful a vampire can be and therefore I agree

[@thaedleinad]

He just OHKO you pretty much.

[@glavenus1447]

He brought shivers down my spine when I saw what he does when you arrive without a purpose, or annoy him with questions, He's is a Being Geralt cannot take on.

[@Maximum7077]

WHY DOES NOBODY BRING HIM UP. ALL Videos seem to forgett him ! I DONT GeT IT.

[@shanedsouza189]

The unseen elder is a game addition, and it logically does not make sense for such a creature to exist within the Witcher canon. The extra rules like "only a higher vampire can kill another" is likewise another game-only thing that only exists to force you as the player to feel guilty about making Regis kill his friend.

[@__-tp4tm]

​@@shanedsouza189 I'd still guess Geralt wouldnt stand any chance in a straight up encounter canonically

[@GiGaChadAF]

In B&W Geralt has undergone special mutations that may have made him much stronger than your average Witcher.. maybe you're not considering this at all

[@gifgafgavintw3]

True and that could be a justification for how he actually managed to beat him but the mutation are an optional side quest and seem to just be a purely gameplay aspect, not really having much of an effect on his actual known combat ability, regardless he still wouldn’t have been able to kill detlaff anyway, beat him yes of course he did but wouldn’t be able to kill him alone

[@GiGaChadAF]

@@gifgafgavintw3 Yes I'm only talking about hos ability to defeat him fairly in combat. Using his melee skills and sign strength.

[@arx3516]

You see Dettlaff, you're not dealing with the average witcher anymore, for i have realized the legend, I am a super witcher!

[@skullfishd2346]

Geralt is unlike any other Witchers he have extra mutations because he survived the trials of the grasses easily also his trained by the greatest swordsman of the school of the wolf. Vampires maybe strong but they aren’t really that a hostile being or maybe into many fights so I don’t think they know much how to fight they may have great strength and can only be killed by their own kind. But Witchers have been trained since their childhood how to fight. I remember Geralt and Regis conversation about life Vampires don’t know why other kinds are so keen on life and living when the only thing that is sure for them is to die but unlike Vampires that lives forever on which Geralt comments to a man that have a million crowns can’t possibly understand one who only got 20.

[@Lord_Michax]

Geralt might have those additional mutations in B&W and has his senses enhanced but you all need to consider the fact that he is not as physically efficient as he used to be. It is stated in the books that he never fully recovered from his injuries (especially leg) from his infamous duel with Vilgefortz on Thanedd, which was even mentioned by Berengar in the Witcher 1

[@doorway3995]

Geralt is The Higher Witcher

[@slumpywumpy4166]

The thing about Geralt is that yes fine he’s not some all powerful Elder Vampire or a Demon or anything like that, but he is one of the most powerful members of the species of Earth, both species before and after the conjunction. Geralt’s extra mutations made him faster, stronger and more durable yes, but it’s a lot more than that. Geralt’s overall Witcher school is also a big reason to his success, with the use of Signs and Blades in seamless combinations during combat. His extensive years of experience fighting the worst monsters a witcher could encounter and killing said monsters, and also the fact that he seems to be a favourite son type figure of Vesemir, the oldest living Witcher we’ve seen. Geralt is the most morally neutral of all of the witchers we have alive at the end of Witcher 3, but he is genuinely one of the most terrifying people to face in the world of the Witcher. He hunted and killed every ringleader of the Wild Hunt, he slaughtered a higher vampire, SURVIVED an attack from an Elder Vampire, successfully outwitted Gaunter O’Dimm, (who is widely speculated to be Satan or God) the reason Geralt is so famous is because he’s so fucking terrifying. He has all the tools necessary to kill realistically any enemy he comes across, and is a master of all of said tools. No debate Geralt is in fact one of the most powerful characters we know of in the Witcher universe.

[@finnbuckley7451]

Was essentially typing this same message out, well said.

[@slumpywumpy4166]

@@finnbuckley7451 Guys out here acting as if we treat Geralt like some sort of immortal being, not our fault he’s good at killing stuff

[@bigderek9761]

Yours is a good summary, and one that I'd agree with. Once a man performs one legendary feat, it becomes much more rational that he can perform another and another, hence Geralt is practically dauntless when facing any problem. To build on your points, one of the scariest things about messing with people in the real world is that they could very well have incredibly loyal and powerful friends that you simply don't realise. Geralt has all of that and more. Unless you catch him off guard and completely desperate, he'd most likely find the best option from among his friends/acquaintances/organisations to help him solve the problem properly. Witchers are renowned for getting pissy with people when they try and solve monster problems by themselves rather than consulting with a professional; Geralt most certainly would follow his own advice and consult the best of the best.

[@stefankatsarov5806]

We dont know what the extra mutations did. It has never been mentioned we just know he has some. For all we know he might be just 1% better than a normal witcher or he might just be able to eat more foods, bleed less slowly, see a bit better, drink half a potion more and thats it. Also all of his feats you mentioned are in the games, where you are super op because its a game. In the books actual Geralt is not that much better than a trained fighter. He got smashed by Vilgefortz who didnt use any magic and fought whit an iron staff. Also Geralt suffered a bad injury that is hampering him for ever and slowing him down ( which is not shown in the games ). As cannon lore is concerned he is a bit better or same than a trained normal human top fighter. Think of like this Eskel, Lambard and Vesemir are on the level Geralt woud have been if the main character in the games was some one else.

[@ravenshrike]

@@stefankatsarov5806 No... just no. Vilgefortz was pulling an Emiya and reinforcing his body's capabilities or had performed other alchemical experiments on himself during his century of life. We know this because Geralt in the books is capable of cutting a man in armor in half at the waist and cutting the head off a horse one handed. He is also compared to a human a low grade speedster.

[@vahlen5281]

Something a lot of people seem to miss is that Geralt didn't kill Detlaff in B&W - he merely incapacitated him, and Regis finished him off. On his own, Geralt would have undoubtedly lost to Detlaff, because even though he briefly managed to gain the upper hand, and cut Detlaff in half, the vampire immediately started to regenerate thereafter.

[@The_Custos]

Just use more igni.

[@joao8340]

what? detlaff could barely regenarate, regis explaind that even tho only higher vampires can kill one another he pretty much 'died' to vilgefortz and was a literal gelatin for months or years before detlaff saved him. if Geralt wanted to he could just keep slicing detlaff and do the same thing, he would never be whole again, but he wouldnt die.

[@vahlen5281]

@@joao8340 Vilgefortz utterly nuked Regis with his supercharged magic though. Detlaff can be seen starting to re-attach himself after being cut in half by Geralt almost immediately. And if we ignore gameplay mechanics, Geralt is still a human with all the limitations that come with it. He wouldn't be able to go on slicing Detlaff forever.

[@joao8340]

@@vahlen5281 you can notive that detlaff regenerates much slower after being sliced in half, hes completely exhausted, regis has enough time to get up walk to him and finish him off without being attacked. of course geralt couldnt do it forever but i mean after a time its just slices of meat lol. he could ask regis for help too, this way detlaff doesnt "die". after a few hundred yeras regis can revive him.

[@Kibatsume1]

Not necessarily in the books regis admits that he spent 40 years in a coffin underground. After he screwed up and got his head bashed in by humans. a group of normal humans was able to subdue him cause enough damage you required time to heal Personally if I was geralt I would have diced him up, put most of his remains somewhere ask Regis what the best way to keep them contained would be take the head to the dutchess. Give it back at a later date. Regis was fully conscious while he was stuck underground. It gave him time to think about his life choices Perhaps it would have helped detlaff

[@josbr6247]

There are a couple creatures in the first Witcher game not mentioned that Geralt probably would have no chance against in normal circumstances, those being the being the Vodyanoi worship, Dagon, whom Geralt can only banish, and the kikimore queen that Geralt had to essentially collapse a cave on top of

[@TanakaMatsumoto]

That thing about higher vampires needing to be killed by other higher vampires isn't a thing, well it's only a thing in the games... Regis in the books even admits there are ways to kill a higher vampire. Besides, Geralt from the games kills Orianna, who despite seeming like a Bruxa in the trailer is supposed to be a higher vampire like Regis. I swear it's the confusion on the term Higher Vampire that causes some of this wrong information to spread. There are higher vampires (Regis, Detlaff, etc) within the classification of "Higher Vampires", but even they can be killed by something other than themselves.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Orianna is a Bruxa but the problem is with the terminology because bruxa and katakans are higher vampires but not true higher vampires likes Regis. I mentioned the cdpr lore about vampires to prove that in the book lore Geralt couldn’t kill a higher vampire and I used his quote to prove that and then I used the game lore to dispute the claim that he beats one in blood and wine. However, I do agree in that I prefer the books lore on the matter tbh

[@Uns46]

*Unseen Elder awakes

[@Raccoozs]

I always assumed that by higher vampire they ment sentient ones that are not feral beasts but that regis and detlaff are "true" higher vampires as in a more superior/stronger species of vamp

[@alexanderschober7197]

The difference between genus and species has to be made. The term "Higher Vampires" refers to both. Species in the genus "Higher Vampires": Alps, Mulas, Bruxas, Katakans, Nosferats and Higher Vampires. Species in the genus "Lesser Vampires": Fleders, Ekimmas.

[@tomatosauce7666]

It's obvious I think that higher vampires can assume a "beast" form, oriana that of bruxa, regis a giant bat, as we can see in his Gwent card, the higher vamp in novigrad an ekimara, and detlaf the vampire demon. The more powerful the vampire the more unique and powerful the form, (see regis and detlaf) it's widely known in vampire lore that vamps can assume many forms especially beastly ones, werewolf giant bat etc, I believe that is what the devs intended here and again it's rather quite obvious yet I have never seen anyone talk about it, just people getting lost in a maze of speculative technicalities just like this very thread.

[@Kapral-ld8zl]

I think the reason for Regis being unable to get up from under the rubble because as he said he didn't fully recover his vampiric powers/strenght, additionally to that he refused to drink blood because he feared that he will become the monster he once was. So i think that explains it a bit after all another higher vampire threw into a brick wall a vampire that wasn't cut to pieces and still was regenerating his power.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

I think that’s a reasonable explanation but it’s clear the only reason for it is so Geralt has take on Detlaff alone. For incidence, he could’ve turned to mist or a bat to get out but it’s fine it’s only s minor complaint

[@stefankatsarov5806]

Blood does not make Vampires better in this universe. Its just Alcohol for them.

[@danielhagos5492]

He might be weakened because he's a vegetarian vampire like in twilight.

[@maxburrill6192]

So Geralt can't kill: - Satan. - An angry cloud. - A being that can only ever be killed by it's own kind.

[@malakarvonstroheim5372]

The focking pussy

[@dallasbag1791]

Basically so yeah

[@Chronically_ChiII]

I don't think the rubble is what stopped Regis in the Blood & Wine DLC. It's more just the impact of him being thrown into it by dettlaff at full force broke all his bones and during the whole fight he is regenerating them.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Someone said it’s because he hadn’t regenerated fully. Idk cos he could’ve turned himself into mist or his bat form. It’s really just an excuse for Geralt to have to take on detlaff alone really imo

[@Chronically_ChiII]

@@gifgafgavintw3 Yeah, I agree that it's definitely for the sake of gameplay. But we do know that vampires don't regenerate instantly or else Geralt cutting Dettlaff in two at the end of the fight wouldn't had mattered at all.

[@stefankatsarov5806]

​@@Chronically_ChiII You say that but Regis got his mid section removed by Detlaf and regenerated that in mere moments without stoping or anything.

[@Chronically_ChiII]

I think it would be more like an energy expendure thing. As long as they have enough strength they can fuel their regeneration, but at a certain threshold it cost becomes too great. Like having all of your bones be shattered into splinters and your muscles fibers being bruised into pulp, is harder to regenerate that than a simple decapitation.

[@BonusDuckie]

I mostly agree. Like you said, Geralt WOULDNT take on contracts on sea monsters but i don't believe he couldn't complete them. More like it's too complicated, out of his expertise and he would just rather not do the contract, because odds would be stacked against him heavily.

[@galadinwow]

Nobody would even issue a contract for a sea monster. If a sea monster attacked a ship, nobody is thinking "oh boy we need a Witcher". They would either get a fleet of ships to attack it or avoid that area of the sea completely.

[@BonusDuckie]

@galadinwow That's if you have money, the people who put up contracts for witchers normally dont have the coin for a fleet

[@prime13th]

I heard the School of the Crane are the ones who take the sea monsters contract since that's their whole gimmick.

[@rain-cy6ve]

The higher vampire lore is definietly not done well in the game. Before he meets Regis again and Dethlaff, he meets and kills a higher vampire in Novigrad.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Yea they contradict themselves a bit there sadly

[@seelevollerei1152]

Wasn't he just a Katakan? Not quite a Higher Vampire

[@rain-cy6ve]

@@seelevollerei1152 he looked like the katakan model but if you haven t read about higher vampires before, there is a note about higher vampires appearing in your bestiary. That s what happend to me.

[@infamous1857]

Letalis made a good video on this. That there should be tiers of higher vampires.

[@TITANia69420]

I'd like to imagine Geralt was capping about that. Like, "Yeah uhh... Higher Vampire. Very dangerous. Extra coins please." But that's just me.

[@BertoPlease]

It's been a minute since I've played W3, but wasn't the conclusion of the Djinn fight where Yenn subdues it and states that they can keep fighting for eternity and be deadlocked, unless they accept Yenn's demand for a wish? So I wouldn't even think Geralt OR Yenn could kill it, they just pulled a Dormamu and bargained with it

[@gifgafgavintw3]

I don’t think they could’ve killed it either, my main problem with it was that they were able to take it on considering how in the books Yennefer nearly dies fighting one and there wasn’t much Geralt could do as he doesn’t possess that kind of magic

[@weaponjam7226]

I liked he wasn’t the toughest guy around. He couldn’t even beat Vilgefortz. In fact was flogged by him and he’s only a human magic weilder.

[@iwjfhaifn2950]

He could if he studied magic but instead he wanted to have sex with women :/ lol

[@windofchaosblows]

I'm so glad someone finally said that Geralt isn't some kind of God who can shake planets with his pinkie, he really is just a mutated human, he is faster and more resilient but still human and if firearms existed in witcher world anyone would be able to put him down easily

[@FredericoASousa]

Not easily. I'm sure a headshot would kill him, but I'm sure we could shrug off multiple gunshots over his armour. Not to mention of he had quen on, even a head shot wouldn't take him down. And he could close the distance in a second, killing you in the next.

[@Darkheartedone91]

Funny enough a rudimentary form of gun does exist......and let's not forget he DID DIE to a nobody with a pitchfork. His name was Rob.

[@axel2x748]

Bro got put down by a pitchfork

[@nevyanplamenov5409]

@@Darkheartedone91 It's the first time i hear of that. Is that in the book or game's lore ? I mean that he got killed by a random peasant

[@URKCEHinoSuu]

​@@nevyanplamenov5409after the books and before the events of Witcher 1, or rather, the games.

[@fadeddragon123]

Succubi I would consider on the same thin line as trolls. He takes contracts and questions them and prefers not to fight. But if they are a threat he will. Generally succubi aren’t violent and don’t kill unless it’s a accident or self defense (I know people find Selma suspicious but when you kill her dandelion comments in the quest log saying that Geralt probably made a mistake or something like that) He states that he much prefers not to hunt kolbalds, godlings and such also fall under this category As for higher vampires, I believe that the best Geralt can do canonically in the books is like the first fight with Detlaff where he can hold his own for a bit but not win the fight. Also. You didn’t mention the unseen elder who legit can kill Geralt before Geralt sees him move. No way Geralt can kill a golden dragon either. Even with saskia I question it. He kinda had plot armor for that fight like he does Detlaff. Gorgons.. if they are Greek gorgons yeah I see why Geralt would want nothing to do with it While I don’t doubt Geralts skill. Most deep sea monsters are a hard no. If they are beached MAYBE he can pull it off (like the kayran) I also do not think that Geralt would EVER accept a contract on the crones or “she should knows” if she weren’t around (I know she is the tree spirit but the power level is very different) if the creature(s) is legendary in status or worshipped.. probably a hard pass if he doesn’t know what they are (lord of the wood ect he knows what they are so he would take the contracts.) Deities/legends like the lady of the lake would also fall under this category As for Djinns they are probably immortal anyway. BUT notably.. using silver on post conjunction creatures does affect them. I can buy silver working but i cannot but Geralt beating or killing one. Gaunter is legit Satan, enough said. Maybe if he were offered gwent cards…

[@coltonwilliams4153]

Ugh! You just had to mention the Crones. I despise Velen. Nothing good comes of getting involved with that gods forsaken place. I agree with the games, sending Ciri to fight them and not Geralt. She’s the best Witcher for that contract. As for other things that are potentially worshipped, Leshen probably fall under that category, and from what I saw of them in the third game, I can believe that witchers would be reluctant to accept that one. I was spamming Agni, and I doubt witchers would do that in real life.

[@fadeddragon123]

@@coltonwilliams4153 I hope if we get Witcher 4 we see “she who knows” in person. Who is likely on par with all of the crones put together. Any Witcher that isn’t Geralt or Ciri probably loses that fight tbh

[@thegreenmage6956]

Honestly EVERY monster in the book seems to give Geralt trouble. It’s not an easy job. He’s CONSTANTLY got some kind of new injury.

[@YukiVapor]

Geralt would kill any sea monster if the whole lore had The Witcher 3´s underwater fight gameplay. He’d just pop out his crossbow, shoot a few arrows and boom, done !

[@gifgafgavintw3]

I tend to prioritise book lore over game lore but even if you consider that canon I’m not sure how well a crossbow is gonna do against a kraken😂

[@BigBroKuma]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@quinnmartensbobbitt3704]

I think, at least on the point of Higher Vampires, that part of the reason why Geralt, and many other witchers, would avoid hunting one of these creatures, is due to their sheer rarity. Not in the respect that fighting one, and succeeding in its defeat would lower their population- but because that rarity means they're incredibly adept at survival. These creatures, as stated by Regis in the game, came to the Continent via the Conjunction. Unlike the other monsters who came across, like giants, demons, shapeshifters and more, the vampires as a whole, including their lesser kin, only came across in the dozens or maybe a few hundred at most. Since that time, their numbers have not only dwindled due to the rise of humanity and the formation of the witcher schools, but because they had to maintain secrecy to prevent human uprisings. They had, at one time, enslaved entire human settlements and established a makeshift kingdom in Toussaint, but had to go underground because one of their kin caused the humans to revolt, which was by and large, inconvenient. That in mind, their species does not often reproduce, given that they are an indestructible, immortal species, who need to avoid detection. Therefore, most if not all of the vampires on the Continent or across the sea, are at least as ancient as Regis or the Conjunction. Vampires like the Hidden Elder, are even more ancient- perhaps millennia or more in age. That age comes with experience and skill- experience and skill that no witcher could match, because no witcher is old enough to have been around since the Conjunction of the Spheres, and no mage or elf besides those of the Aen Elle, would have been around at that time. When Geralt consults Regis about Detlaff, he fully understands that by comparison to both of them, he is an infant- Regis was more than four centuries old and had survived "death" twice. Detlaff was even older, and far more reclusive, making him an even more volatile threat to compete with. The Hidden Elder? Not a chance in hell- only a halfway decent mage, protected by multiple wards would stand even a minute chance, as demonstrated when Regis was defeated by Vilgefortz, who melted him into a stain. With that said, the chance of Geralt even attempting to kill one would be considered laughable in the books, even with his particular mutagenic abilities.

[@saymyname2417]

Gaunter O'Dimm isn't a god but the series' equivalent to Satan actually. He has abilities far beyond even the Unseen Elder guarding the cave with the portal the higher vampires came through. I do agree on the djinn and the sea / underwater monsters with you. Didn't Eskel kill a higher vampire who had specialised on murdering daughters of the members of the highest echelons by tricking him into drinking a girl's blood infused with a potion so the vampire was sort of dazed and could be taken on relatively easy? Idk if it was in the books or the W3 game, though.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

With the Gaunter O’Dimm thing it really just depends how you interpret his character, he’s obviously some kind of satanic or god like figure (I tend to say god because that’s what his initials spell out). Regardless he’s still the most powerful being the Witcher universe with no known way to kill him. With the eskel higher vampire thing, he never specifies what vampire it actually was he killed. Theres also a bit problem in the way in which they refer to different vampires as there are three categories of vampires which is lesser vampires (for example a Fleder or Ekimara), higher vampires (for example Bruxa or katakans) and then you have true higher vampires being the likes of Regis. This is all gone over in the books but because of the terminology things can get quite confusing. So when eskel says he killed a higher vampire he likely means the second category not a true higher vampire, either that or the game made a mistake because as we know a true higher vampire cannot truly die unless killed by another of its own kind. This is only the case once they had written blood and wine though I believe so could be the reason if it was indeed a mistake.

[@professorparadox795]

@@gifgafgavintw3 Higher vampires such as detlaff and Regis can be killed, they have great regeneration capability, the tier Geralt was talking about is called godly regeneration, regenerating from even atom size, pretty sure no true higher vampires can do that, as regis couldn't regenerate without detlaff help, if some witcher could defeat true higher vampires, that witcher can also kill them, just require complex way for doing that, because they have low-high regeneration tier which is very hard for a witcher to kill someone that has this tier even if they are weak or not , but still i agree with you, it was bruxa in my opinion.

[@αστρον]

@@professorparadox795 No, it would just take longer for them to recover.

[@Zeb0101]

@@αστρον that thing of vampires can only die by other vampires it's game bs and doesn't really makes much sense honestly

[@DundG]

@@Zeb0101 I always thought only higher vampires can kill other higher vampires is because they consume "their life essence and make it their own". So Dettlaf becomes a part of Regis and looses his personality and memories in the process, making him effectively cease to exist, as even if Regis is weakened, the part that was once Detlaf has ne recollection of what it once was and would never revolt. At least that was my headcanon.

[@user-gs9qy8yn7n]

geralt isn’t the most powerful being in the witcher universe, but he is one of the best swordsman’s. one of the best, not the overall best.

[@SunsetScepter]

All in all geralt is no more skilled than an average Witcher. He did undergo extra mutations due to the fact he showed more resilience and compatibility for them, which is what caused his hair to turn white, so he is stronger, faster, and more resilient than other witchers. In fact I'm pretty sure it's implied that in terms of sword skill eskel is an equal, if not better swordsman than geralt even with the extra mutations

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Yea it never actually specifies the extent to which the extra mutations effected Geralt which I think is a shame

[@alexanderschober7197]

Triss implied that Eskel has more magical power than Geralt, but I never read something about sword skills.

[@andreadebernardis4390]

@@alexanderschober7197 wait i thought Geralt was literally the most probable to have magical skills? wasn't his mum a sorceress too, and Vilgefortz commented that he would've been an amazing sorcerer/mage?

[@alexanderschober7197]

@@andreadebernardis4390 Firstly: Geralt and Eskel are both Witchers who use signs, so they both already have (simple) magical skills. Secondly: Yes, you are right too. Vilgefortz and Geralt had a longer conversation, where Vilgefortz tried to persuade Geralt into joining him and becoming a sorcerer. I looked up the proposed sections once more. Here are the most important parts about the topic, so everyone can form his own opinion about it. Triss: "It was Eskel’s behaviour which was most unlikely; he got up, approached the enchantress, bent down low, took her hand and kissed it respectfully. She swiftly withdrew her hand. Not so as to demonstrate her anger and annoyance but to break the pleasant, piercing vibration triggered by the witcher’s touch. Eskel emanated powerfully. More powerfully than Geralt." (Sapkowski, Andrzej. Blood of Elves (The Witcher) (S.89). Orion. Kindle-Version.) Vilgefortz: ‘Why didn’t you become a sorcerer, Geralt? Weren’t you ever attracted by the Art? Be honest.’ ‘I will. I was.’ ‘Why, then, didn’t you follow the voice of that attraction?’ ‘I decided it would be wiser to follow the voice of good sense.’ [...] ‘- We differ too greatly,’ said Geralt, not allowing himself to be interrupted, ‘and the minor fact that my mother was, by accident, a sorceress, is unable to erase that difference.' [...] ‘And so,’ smiled the Witcher, ‘I have no choice? I have to enter into a pact with you, a pact which should someday become the subject of a painting, and become a sorcerer? On account of genetics alone? Give me a break. I know a little about the theory of heredity. My father, as I discovered with no little difficulty, was a wanderer, a churl, a troublemaker and a swashbuckler. My genes on the spear side may be dominant over the genes on the distaff side. The fact that I can swash a buckler pretty well seems to confirm that.’ (Sapkowski, Andrzej. Time of Contempt (The Witcher) (S.141-145). Orion. Kindle-Version.)

[@mongooseunleashed]

I know they said Eskel is Geralts equal, Geralt is just more famous.

[@Kajnake]

My favourite witcher stories were about Geralt trying to make the peons of the world understand the monsters instead of just swinging the sword. Makes him much different from a mercenary story

[@truffelnootje]

Please go through all monsters that aren’t in the game!! Per category of monster - one vid That playlist will be a tresure for every w3wh player!

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

The thing I really like about Geralt is I see him as a blue collar worker in a high fantasy world. He is interesting because he's NOT overpowered. He's a bounty hunter working based on learned skill, some enhancements (the mutations) and low end magic. It makes him very good at his job but not a god. He's not Aargaron running around with the Arundil the sword that cut the one ring from Sauron's hand he's not Luke Skywalker the chosen one trying to redeem his father he's a guy with a job to do who gets in over his head. THat doesn't make him less of a hero, arguably it makes him more of one, just not a larger then life superhero.

[@mayim22]

remember, geralt was said to have been killed by a poor peasant with a pitchfork during a riot in the second witcher game. lol

[@jamonbread544]

Its nice that youtube is recommending videos from small channels like this one

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Agreed, my first video that isn’t a short and I’m surprised it’s done so well

[@2.0wen]

To me one of the coolest underdog boss fights similar to Slave Knight Gael is Detlaff. Geralt knew he couldn't kill him, but he still absolutely bodied him to the point he was just a festering corpse so that he could be finished by Regis. I mean the fight and the music is so peak

[@MIsterSojaBohne]

I do agree with your take on higher Vampires and we are not even talking about "The Unseen Elder" here "Just" Detlav and Regis.

[@orangemc9358]

Geralt may not be the most powerful character when you limit him to nothing but his body and sword, I agree with you there. But I think everyone can agree that he's one of the most capable entities, especially when he has time to prepare, train, and acquire those who can patch any hole or loose end in his strategy against whatever he chooses to hunt. I also think it's a bit disingenuous to say Geralt couldn't kill X Y or Z when they're either Satan himself, magical genie with no known way to die, or literally cannot die due to the universe saying another one of its kind needs to kill it. While they're technically true, and I agree with you on the grounds he cannot technically kill them, it just feels weird soloing him out when most everything else can't kill them either. Good video though, my man, I did appreciate it! Nothing above is meant to be rude, I'm just commenting my thoughts.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

I get what you mean and you are correct in that despite having so many creates that could beat Geralt he is still one of the most powerful in the Witcher universe. I do believe at times with some of the monsters I mentioned I did state that I think Geralt would stand a chance against them such as the vixen but with monsters like Gaunter, Djinn and Higher vampire I don’t really think that there’s much room for debate on that. Even if you consider strategy maybe you could eliminate some sea monsters and the vixen but that’s very debatable imo. Anyway I respect ur opinion if u do disagree there and appreciate the comment

[@GAngel47]

While I'd agree that witchers are that powerful I'd like to add that comparing Geralt to average witcher is like comparing veteran navy seal to fresh recruit. Geralt is a unique character in every way. He is considered one of the best fighters of his era, his signs are stronger than most other witchers sue to his unique mutations and he is also considered prodigy in alchemy often improving know recepies. Mix all that with all his experience and you'll get character who is , while not all powerful, at very least major threat to any other high profile adversary.

[@GAngel47]

*are not - correction of first sentence

[@kenichiotaku3693]

Also, bruxae seldom make witcher targets as they're a very cunning and powerful vampire type. And we can only kill bruxae, djinns and unseen elders in the mobile game. Realistically unseen elders are way too fast even for one such as Geralt himself. I don't know if there even is such a thing as a fatal injury for beings like djinns but if Geralt's sword, bombs and signs aren't to have some efficacy against a djinn then neither should they hurt wraiths and any other monster from the specter class.

[@omnicrete7470]

Just realized couldn’t Regis just let geralt cut off his hand while it’s a claw so he can use it as a type of finishing tool for higher vampires.

[@Iandar1]

Master mirror isn’t the most power being, he’s just the most powerful being we’ve seen, by his own admission there are things just as powerful as him if not more powerful.

[@kingofbel6499]

As someone who only played Witcher 3 so far, Geralt really seemed like the most powerful Witcher around. Not counting Ciri and her unique powers, of course.

[@plack_benis382]

Geralt is the most powerful witcher, even in the books. He has more mutations than any other known witcher. Though i feel like hes not the best witcher to exist in the witcher universe, since theres depictions of older witchers taking on dragons and monsters geralt has never even seen. Geralts story picks up at a time when most of the monsters are dead and the need for witchers is waning.

[@cheukaidanwarburton2733]

Gerald could easily defeat a kraken with one crossbow shot 😂

[@gifgafgavintw3]

In the books he doesn’t use a crossbow, it’s only in tw3 and I’m not sure a crossbow would be enough for a kraken😂

[@stilllife5702]

This Gerald fellow sounds impressive.

[@iSuperVamp]

@@stilllife5702 I would agree. ))

[@jebus42069]

It was a joke about how much damage the crossbow does underwater in the witcher 3

[@iSuperVamp]

@@jebus42069 Sure. But "Gerald" is the actual funny bit

[@fakename8680]

He may not be able to kill Gaunter O’dimm but he could beat in a bet. All he’d have to do is tell to him never steal souls or harm anything ever again.

[@fadeddragon123]

You say that as if gaunter has to accept those terms. He can always say no.

[@deathstreak1156]

That is honestly what makes him so terrifying, him abiding by rules is all up to gaunter if he wants to follow them or not.

[@laurenceperkins7468]

But Gaunter doesn't steal souls... He purchases them in perfectly legitimate bargains, which he keeps to the letter. Try again...

[@titaniamengyun]

The fight scenes detailed in the books have always been so consistently fluid, it makes the series a really engaging and fun read! Thanks for going over some of the monsters in Witcher lore

[@Zeb0101]

Selkiemores aren't sentient but neither dangerous towards people, they just eat plankton and could eat a person but by accident, anyway we never see the circumstances that involve Geralt in the show, it could have been more understandable than what we expect (I'm writing this cause season one is not much far from the books and till the nightmare of the wolf the lore was on tracks and made sense, so I like to consider those two as valid sources, everything that comes after is good being ignored)

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Except the Selkimore isn’t in the book but interesting nonetheless

[@kurojakigames7642]

When it comes to the topic of your video, I agree with you fully. I won't say I have the same take aways as you did on the other bits of the lore diving, but monsters that he can't beat/refuses to go after, as well as the reasoning, 100% dude.

[@radicalcentrist4990]

When it comes to taking on really powerful monsters, the only reward he'll accept are gwent cards.

[@iisneonism9089]

With the djinns, they never outright killed them. Besides, Geralt had the help of Yennefer.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

I know and I don’t think they could’ve killed the Djinn. My main issue with the game encounter is that when you consider how much Yennefer struggled taking one on in the books and Geralt wasn’t really able to intervene not only because he needed to make his wish but also because he doesn’t have the magic to even attempt to. Hence why I talked about how I think it’s a little ridiculous that Yennefer somehow made it as he could take it on with his sword. I wasn’t a fan of that is all.

[@iisneonism9089]

@@gifgafgavintw3 Ong. Hope they introduce more contracts that seem impossible in the Witcher remake.

[@dewizard1879]

In the games you can peacefully negotiate most trolls

[@KDY-rf5oe]

I remember geralt shitting bricks when he encounters a bruxa in the last wish book😭

[@thewizardoftech5075]

with the sea monster thing. i kind of agree . on the sea monsters own turf(under water) it will win. but along side a witchers skill and magic. it also has all its training in tracking and luring monsters into more vulnerable areas. he would definitely know how to bring these sea monsters onto land to fight them. he may have used outside help. but that is kind of his skill to. recognizing what skills or magic will be needed to achieve his goal , and getting them. if he is about to die and someone steps in , then yes he is losing. but if before the fight even begins ,he finds the people and magic he may need . then technically i still call that a win. a dead monster , is a filled contract.

[@leonardocook4444]

Gaunter o dimm is the most intriguing to me. Dude came walking out of the sky to claim olgeirds soul. That’s some hardcore shit.

[@striker8961]

15:55 possible Regis just couldn’t bring himself to get back into the fight.

[@skursreacts8814]

14:20 Geralt didn't care for Regis' aid in the fight bcz he literally asks him if he would stand in his way if he decides to fight Dettflauf. And at that point, it was obvious that Geralt has decided to kill Debtlaugh

[@JacobBradley-n6w]

Higher vampires being unkillable is game lore. Regis surviving is game lore. Regis was also beaten by humans on 2 occasions (peasants and vilgefortz respectively)

[@Unchainedful]

If Batman can kill Dracula, Geralt can kill a high vampire. *The more you know*

[@Justanotherguy83]

Sorry to blow u up. I never thought before watching this. I did not think it would be so thought provoking lol earned my sub mate. Such a great video

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Thank you I appreciate it and don’t worry about any of that, I like discussing all things Witcher that’s why I do this really.

[@Justanotherguy83]

@@gifgafgavintw3 thanks man I love The Witcher myself even though they butchered blood origins and I don't know where this show is going to go now but the game has a lot of lower we can still see it through and the one great season of the show and that s good season of the show still has some good things we can have discussed about and if they don't wokify Witcher 4 should create and spark more debate

[@sebastianorquin]

Great video. I have yet to read the books but this helps me understand the games a bit better and the differences between lores (and ofc the ones u make with in game decissions)

[@raphaelbruceday5157]

Great vid bossman

[@donavinnezar]

long form content allows you to include detail that would not fit in a short ! , thank you for making this , no judgement from me

[@couchcommandoiv5528]

Completes Heart of Stone DLC, checks bulletin board, sees a posting about a man being scammed by a mirror salesman...

[@michaeledmunds7056]

The last one probably covers it, but he definitely wouldn't take a contract against an elder vampire either. 😂

[@crimson7925]

The most powerful bein in the witcher universe is Gaunter o'dimm. He could only beaten by a riddle, but never permanently slain.

[@WormmDad]

For how many views this video has, and the quality of the video this guy deserves more subs

[@couchbear6108]

A Godling such as Sarah or Johnny.

[@brianmorvillo6323]

that is the most ACSHKUALLY NO BECAUSH THISH voice ever lol

[@JP-xg6bv]

Do recall that Regis was still recovering from Vilgefortz even at the end of B&W

[@TriptuneRadio]

One of the most interesting quests is Mutuals of Beauclairs Wild Kingdom. In the quest you have to make the choice between killing or sparing a basilisk I'm the Carroberta woods. Doing so keeps the roads safe for merchants, but ends a subspecies of a basilisk and risks throwing the ecosystem into ruin without it. This being after its habitat was logged away and the subspecies hunted to endangerment. No answer is right but it's a fascinating dilemma

[@cybernetic_crocodile8462]

It is worth mentioning, that Regis, when he still was volatile bloodsucker, got damaged so badly by just some peasants, that he needed around century to regenerate. Therefore, even if Geralt couldn't kill Higher Vampire, he could still neutralise them for long enough to count it as defeat.

[@jjschow]

Dopplers and succubi are non aggressive typically.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Yea they would fit into the first category of monsters that I mentioned, ones that Geralt wouldn’t kill for moral reasons

[@DarthChosen]

very impressive video, thanks for the fun watch. id also add that theres more than one type of higher vampire, in general witchers would avoid all of them yes. but the one they would never even think about fighting is an unseen elder.

[@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece]

My head canon: Regis was effectively turned to mush and had not regenerated enough muscles yet to get out. He would have absolutely got there himself in a few minutes.

[@deanwerny1]

Great video mate! I have two points to what you say. 1. Geralt in the books isnt weak by any means, he is the best swordman there. He never lost a swordfight (not counting Vilgefortz and his autocounter stick) and always outclassed his oponents. 2. Point is for the people who didnt read the books. Higher Vampires are probably the strongest beings on the Continent. Geralt did not kill Regis, because he would die and it wouldnt be even remotly close. I was very surprised when i learned about the plot of B&W cuz there is no way to even fight a higher vampire. They move so fast you cant see them or they turn into mist and you are just hitting thin air. Moral of the story Higher Vampires are OP and there is not a single thing you can do about that.

[@caspervestergaard2430]

15:45 I just played B&W(and Witcher 3) for the first time recently. And its made pretty clear that Regis is in a weakened state after his regeneration. And is weakened further after some thing he does with Geralt. This could explain why Regis isn't on top of his game.

[@lemon265]

Really good discussion video and I mostly agree. Played the games and read the books, only in part watched the show though. The only way to really clarify Rankings like this would be to look at the books and games seperatly and agree on Definitions beforehand...

[@SniperSwordsmen]

When i started playing the witcher and reading some of the books. I notice that even gameplay wise, he's not the strongest person ever as he shouldn't be the way ive always seen garelt and witchers is that there just humans with mutations and knowledge on there prey. Even in witcher 1 garelt has said before that a witcher is usless without their potions, and that small bit of dialog told me that witchers are not apex preditors because of the mutations alone it told me that knowledge, potions, and sighns, and training for there entire life on top of the mutations is what makes a witcher great and in witcher 1 i felt that the game captured that idea amazingly for a clunky old game it was fun witcher 2 lost that a little bit i felt but the witcher 3 brought that back a bit.

[@PlxelGuy]

From what I’ve read killing djinn is almost impossible. You can trap them but you can’t kill them because they’re technically sentient power.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Yes I don’t believe there’s a known way to do so

[@terrytaylor1732]

Also, another point about Dettlaff. In that fight, the in-game lore states that he wanted to die. So he wouldn't have been putting in 100%.

[@robertburbulea2863]

I just killed unharmful monsters for the mutagen. Anyway, welcome to youtube, got yourself a follower

[@ZackForester]

In the canon ending of The Witcher 2, Geralt spares Saskia.

[@TruePirateKing12]

Very well thought out. I did not know the stipulation with killing a Higher vampire.

[@Veldazandtea]

It's more the fact that Regis didn't really want to fight because of how conflcted he is. His heart isn't in the fight. The rubble doesn't keep him down. His own lack of drive and willpower does.

[@FossilStudios316]

6:36 Yen would be the type of girlfriend to put you in great danger because she started a fight she couldn’t finish.

[@triss9364]

Thus video is doing laps in the algorithm hope your channel takes off for real

[@rhodeisland92]

Good points. I agree the books are the main source and it makes it interesting for Geralt to be at that level of power

[@dragonzarecool6416]

The trial of the grasses took to geralt far easier then any other child and they gave him stronger doses for it so technically speaking he would be a slightly stronger witcher then almost any other (especially after B&W when he mutates his mutations)

[@cakeassassin6277]

i think regis tells that they can only be killed by something from their real. and i always got the idea that the ring that regis uses is made from a metal from his own land and if forged into a weapon could kill a higher vampire. but an elder would probably be too much for geralt

[@troo_6656]

When it comes to higher vampire I think there's another thing to consider. He has no motivation. If drowner pays for food and good night's sleep you won't go around accepting contracts on monster that has good chance at taking you down. Book Geralt espetially. Also just one thing, Geralt's ...uhhh let's call it power level, in the books is really inconsistent, much like for almost every single other character in the books (love the books but bloody hell power levels were not on Sapkowski's list of priorties).

[@Aaron-io8vw]

Geralt is just slightly more powerful than other witchers due to his additional mutations which happened because he took to the process of mutating him much easier and quicker than others. He took to the nation easier likely because his mother in all witches media was a Druid

[@scarofmanleavethembehind]

To be fair, but Regis was knocked out by that throw and was fully unconscious for a bit. When Geralt was done he went to check on his friend and do what anyone would do even tho he knows Regis is far more powerful than him. You can see that Regis is not fully there yet wich kinda explaines why he need (or just accept) the help from his friend. He looks a bit wobly. And if he got broken bones from the hit and other internal injuries it also explaines why he is a bit slow cause they also feel pain (if I haven't mistaken).

[@JP-ul9tb]

Great video! Well research and articulated

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Much appreciated!

[@yongo1304]

12:54 what if he was offered the best Gwent card set?

[@kyze6734]

No true fan will even consider the netflix shite cant even call it lore

[@dmonsterlove]

Facts

[@monsterboomer8051]

F U C K

[@RanposPowderedDonuts]

Question: Didn't Geralt fight a vixen in one of the older games? The one you could play on your phone which was basically a jump and run with fighting elements, a great story for such a short game and like 4 endings?

[@rikuoriely8160]

With Regis and the rubble it is also stated he's not in his prime or fully recovered not to mention the hit he takes

[@user-rr8lb1qx5g]

He's not going to fight the terrask solo

[@specdecible]

A point you missed about the Kayran, the one Geralt fights in W2 is not a typical Kayran. It had been mutilated and altered by magic to the point Triss, Síle and even Geralt himself make mention of it, it was so mutilated in fact that it was incredibly sick and didn't have long to live. Normally Kayrans are much smaller and docile, the villagers in Flotsam used to call him the "Old Man" and lived happily with it for many years until it suddenly became large and rabid. A normal Kayran Geralt would probably take a contract for, as they can be lured onto land so he doesn't need to fight it in water and they're not as strong as the mutilated Kayran as depicted in W2.

[@ironfoot1938]

I mean that part with regis getting blocked with some stones was a stretch, but he was also very weak / hasn't fully recovered. So it makes sense that he can't really fight him.

[@louisfriend9323]

In general, you're wrong that Geralt cannot take a contract on any creature. If the story needs Geralt to take a contract, he will. It's the same argument why Wolverine can always beat Spider-Man or vice versa. It's whatever the writer thinks up in their mind would be an awesome story to tell. Period, end of discussion.

[@fishnutz5196]

Even in the games, while powerful, there are deffinately moments you feel helpless. Unseen Elder and Gaunter are the big ones. But also Detlaff, while Geralt beat him he could not kill him but Geralt could use Igni to burn him to a crisp and make it so Detlaff could take years and years to heal

[@Gam3Junkie7]

Your complaint about Regis being pinned by rubble when he's supposed to be so powerful is rude, because strength hardly matters when you're pinned, it's about leverage too.

[@gifgafgavintw3]

True to an extent but he could bench press that easy😂 plus why couldn’t he turn into a bat or his mist form to get out? I think it’s a valid complaint but the reasoning is that apparently he’s not at full strength but I don’t agree fully with that reasoning

[@raygunner4970]

You look like Jaskier from the Witcher show.

[@prophet1517]

Big question what if you cut a higher vampire in half and just lock away both parts of the body separately, like in steel boxes or something?

[@gifgafgavintw3]

I’m not sure😂 one half would regenerate but if it has no room to regenerate I don’t know

[@fightclub6284]

@@gifgafgavintw3 it would be alive, just not able to regenerate until someone brought the two parts together.

[@fadeddragon123]

Well. If you take into account that regis was made into a wet smear and detlaff grows a entirely new hand… I believe that their body tries to reconnect but is fully capable of regenerating from their main bodies. So.. locking body parts in different places would probably result in the vampire regrowing in the box with the torso or something until the box breaks.

[@444stick]

Dude this is such a good quality video, I’m gonna subscribe right now. One thing I’d say is your nailing everything, but I don’t know if it’s camera quality or editing but something seems a second out. Like I said subscribing though!

[@gifgafgavintw3]

Thank you I appreciate that. But I do agree, I think I need to upgrade my Camera and my mic tbh