Montana Megaliths and the Stone Nubs: Natural or Man Made? Sage Wall & Tizer Dolmen - Episode 1

[@INCREDHISTORY]

If you would like to support my work, please consider purchasing a copy of my book, Enigmatic North America: Legends, Oddities, and Controversial History. Available in paperback on Amazon or the Ebook/PDF on my website. I would greatly appreciate your review on Amazon! Thanks for the support! Link to my book -www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLK35R13 Time Stamps 00:00 Introduction 00:40 The Tizer Dolmen 01:38 A Glacier Couldn't Make This 02:01 The 3 Aligned Nubs 02:26 The Megalithic Nubs Around the World 02:46 Michael Collins of Wandering Wold Productions on Nubs 08:03 The Tower Dolmen at the Giants Playground 08:26 The Sage Wall - Natural or Manmade? 10:32 The Sage Wall Compared to Sacsayhuaman in Peru 11:05 Michael Collins Compares Sage Wall Feature to Egypt 13:05 If it is Man Made, it is Beyond Ancient 14:26 Geologist Dr. Stuart Parker Analyzes the Megalith Photos 22:09 Dr. Parker Explains the Erosion Process of the Boulder Batholith 28:07 Dr. Parker Wants to Study These for Information on Earthquakes 30:10 Dr. Parker Analyzes Photos of Megalithic Nubs 32:27 Dr.Parker Analyzes the Montana Nubs 38:15 How Can Nature Produce Alignment and Order? 40:10 Dr. Parker Breaks Down the Sage Wall 48:48 What Would Dr. Parker Need to See to Determine This Was Man Made? 52:47 Michael Collins on the Process of Inquiry and Asking Questions 56:49 A Sneak Peek at the Next Episode - The Mystery of the Western Message Petroglyphs

[@RonCobb-co6dr]

I don't know if you have seen Rodgers work on Mudd focil university but he has covered the nubs quite well and shows how the material for these megalithic structures was .... harvested? He's found places in S. America where they literally sliced it out of the ground with the nubs still on it. The balls people find are part of that anatomy also, they are just really really big. I haven't seen Roger lately, ?? Hmm, might have taken him down, MIT was not happy with his work.

[@jamesn.economou9922]

Thank you

[@buhrdt]

My friends and I have been to and explored many of the "Montana Megaliths." We have GPS coordinates in a Google maps file available for download. We would be happy to provide the file, and hundreds of pictures taken.

[@bethbartlett5692]

Copy of my comment and questions, should you still have interest: I have some Questions and Points to share, below. I'm a Sociologist and Historian, who has an interest in Geology, particularly as it relates to History Sites. I've developed a major respect for Robert Schoch, PhD, Boston College Professor, (Yale Grad), "Peer Reviewed" and "Journal Published Findings" dating the Sphinx to a conservative 11,000 BCE. His woks overwhelmingly supported by Geologists and Geophysicists, (particularly when Z Hawass, Egyptologist, then Director of Antuquities, made accusations against Dr Schoch, (most unprofessional), but Dr Schoch's Peers stepped up to made a supporting statement and the subject quieted, although Mainstream Archaeologists and Egyptologists continue to ignore the "Peer Reviewed Findings" (not professional nor Nature Minded). But I digress ... I would encourage the Geologist here to consider the following: "Although he can answer the Question of the Features, as he learned theough his studies: (consider the potential that: the defining of the anomalies by Geology could be skewed, meaning a level of inaccurate and accurate). 🔹(Are the defining details, 0rov8ded here, Theory or have they been proven?) 🔹I'd be curious to see one of the Nubs on a Montana Rocks be sliced to demonstrate the "Rock within" The Montana Rocks appear notably older, in comparison to Peru Rocks, and they just further make the Peru Rocks look like "Poured Blocks". Both could be, but Montana just looks so much older. I really Appreciate this Sharing 9f Perspectives, offered by both with such respect and Mature M8nded Dialogue. Overwhelmingly Post8ve Gentlemen. Beth Bartlett Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian

[@charleswonderling521]

Excellent dialogue. Well done. Dr. Parker definitely earned his doctorate. It's great to see the younger generation being so passionate and curious.

[@INCREDHISTORY]

Thanks for watching it all the way through Charles! Much appreciated!

[@Curt-r9d]

Your guest PhD explanation of earth’s natural erosion and up lifting process hahahaha😂

[@jamesmaxdavissands]

What astute & profoundly intelligent insights Dr. Parker makes. It is wonderful to hear such a learned open mind discuss & explain situations that most of us cannot conceive. I learned a heck of a lot watching this video. Thank You - One of the best for sure, what an ending!

[@bryonrohr5794]

Dr. Parker was excellent. I could listen to him all day. Very interesting and educational.

[@dandeehart9553]

If you start listening to Randall Carlson speak about the Younger Dryas & the destruction, look at the scab lands & Carolina bays & start understanding really unimaginable force & the till sweeping these giant boulders into basic so called dolmens. I’m a 5th generation Montanan, I would really & truly love nothing more than all the fanciful presumptions to be based in fact, truth etc. but there’s just been too many differing ’’experts’’ that have checked them, even megalithic researchers that live in what’s annoyingly called by some academia as ‘’Fringe’’. I mean Montana already is so rich in fascinating curiosities, oddities & everything in between. I recommend the house of mystery near the insanely gorgeous Whitefish, I went about a decade ago & it still baffles me. Just stumbled onto you channel & I’m SO happy I did because its amazing! Your Edgar Cayce / Atlantis video was SO WELL DONE, I honestly thought that like almost everyone else that ‘’covers that topic ‘’ 😬🙄😒 yur vid was going to be the same identical , ripped off, recycled & constantly regurgitated power points of Edgar Cayce , all while not even pronouncing his sir name correctly, I’ve heard ‘’Case’’ through quite a few of those recyclers like the always frustrating dubious ‘’Unexplained Mysteries’’ or even scary Mysteries has become that also. Appreciate your work! ♾☮

[@-I-Use-Punctuation]

The NUBS are the left over material from quarrying. Hammering out the rock underneath, leaving the block supported underneath & attached to the bedrock on these nubs, then snapping it off its little Pilar (nub) when it's time to transport the material. It's probably left on to aid in manipulating the heavy material when moving from quarry to build site.

[@drhexagonapus]

I don't think all nubs serve the same purpose. Check out the video by curious being on this topic, they have a very compelling theory.

[@dougyoung221]

A lot more freezing and thawing going on in north america then in egypt. Could explain the decay of nubs and other features.

[@billysgarden-u9s]

that split rock looks just like the one in southern japan that looks like a boiled sliced egg with one piece removed and flipped around backwards

[@Theactualcurrentsea]

Hooked, wish you had more to binge on this weekend. Purchased the book as well, hope it supports channel and your exploration. I just relocated from Chicago to Indiana for work. I hear they have done good mounds out here, but I’m far from being well versed enough to know yet. Look forward to starting my own adventures as I already love the hiking part. Just need to educate myself on history and get out there. Thanks for the inspiration

[@INCREDHISTORY]

Thank you so much for binge watching as well as buying the book. I have a new episode coming sometime this week about Chinese petroglyphs in New Mexico. Stay tuned!

[@russelldavidson8417]

I strongly recommend "adventures with Roger" KZbin series about Indiana. I'm obsessed with that region now thanks to him. Hope that leads you to some amazing adventures.

[@ms6071]

We moved along the I 80 freeway in the Sierras in the late 1970’s. There was a large rock we called the split rock. I’m pretty sure it is granite. Over the years I took note of this landmark as I passed it. Eventually in the early 2000’s this rock split into two rocks.

[@MARILYNANDERSON88]

I hear the geologist saying its 90+ percent likely natural, however he is not saying it is 100 percent never embellished by humans.

[@BernardMorrey]

The fact it's a carbon copy of south American stone structures makes it likely that it's man made

[@matildagreene1744]

Montana's geology has a lot of interesting features. This is one. There are many others. Come and do some hiking here and you will find some amazing formations. (bring warm clothes) Petroglyphs are in most states across the U.S. where tribes lived. The hardiest of tribes lived in the north.

[@RicharDRobin56]

Again if we find that strange it’s because it’s again a site made of granite. There is a site in Russia who looks really like this «seems natural » formation. Gornaya Shoria. You probably know about it but just in case…

[@richarddullum2373]

And, I suppose only experts know what is extraordinary, when they say: " Nature can do anything". Covers a 'lot of ground', don't you think?

[@buhrdt]

I have been to nearly all of the Montana Megalith locations. In my amateur research and talking with geologists drawing the conclusion that these are natural was not hard to understand. This video will help me understand and help others understand the geology of this area. If you have any questions, I would be happy to help in any way I can.

[@chrisfleming701]

While it’s true the Continental ice sheet didn’t extend that far South. Local glaciers would have been much larger and probably would have been in the area. Doesn’t mean they were the cause, but I think they can’t completely be ruled out.

[@DeepHouse79]

I love this! Fascinating

[@RonCobb-co6dr]

I don't know if anyone else has bought this up yet but there are really old maps that depict this region of N. America as the realm of the giants. Now I don't know if that means the red haired nasty ones or if it's describing the 12 or 14' people who were said to live beyond the pole. And, some of these very old maps show cities around a very large lake, 7 golden cities I think it is called. Jon Levi has researched it well and has great videos on the subject.

[@eldraque4556]

so glad you spoke to the geologist, crystallography in chemistry reveals this order too, as well as emergent behaviors

[@lindasmeeth9053]

Man made, much older civilization and archeologyist will not want to look at this as it doesn't fit their timeliness.

[@Mk101T]

Ya , but did they have snake oil salesman back in this much older advanced civilization ? And science ceased to be a verb , which is why it collapsed ?

[@robwalker4548]

Natural --- -scares me when so many are depending on social media postings rather than listening to to qualified specialists.

[@Noumenon4Idolatry]

Scary!

[@Mr.Paul_Revere]

Im tryimg to underatand why videos like this dont have 300 million views .its in the ball park of psychology for sure. It has to do with fear, lies, and the Ego. I got to and will figure it out.

[@INCREDHISTORY]

Thank you for saying that and watching this! I think my channels time will come soon.

[@Mr.Paul_Revere]

@@INCREDHISTORY have you seen this video of a destroyed megalithic tower in Utah? It’s from a geologist channel. -Investigate mysterious features with a geologist 157K views · 3 months ago...more Myron Cook

[@montanamegaliths4842]

Montana Megaliths KZbin Channel: The original discoveries of the MM. kzbin.info/door/dFeIhHZdjebI7WPgN-guhQ?app=desktop

[@Lookbutalsosee360]

Musical notes to a frequency that that makes the energy in the area do what ever it does.

[@3generboiler]

Interesting discussion and surprising to some extent as most everything today tends to be positional rather than discussion

[@dezertraider]

VERY COOL

[@SMMBHQ-cg2zy]

Sphereoidal weathering is one possible explanation of the nubs existance , sure no argument whatsoever but the nubs we were talking about are clearly something entirely different. something carved into or out of the surface of the building block. Not even the same thing , lets stick to the topic at hand . Nubs in the context of climbing a steep rock face could of been formed numerous different ways but the other nubs are on the surface of ancient megalithic stone structures probably meant to tune the block giving it desirable properties or to facilitate the movement of the block itself.

[@miketrindade9152]

Good work! I love your insight

[@INCREDHISTORY]

Thanks for all the support Mike! I’ve always appreciated it!

[@janetcameron4652]

Have you considered the megaflood at the YDB layer? I am no expert but fascinated with history. Thanks for this.

[@davidpines6621]

I’m trying to be open minded with your last guest, and it does sound right I’m not saying this only for me, but because I told my kids to ask questions and be open minded! FOR SHARING THIS INFO Which I would think our government would say, we were too ignorant to understand and judge for ourselves. We might as well lie to the noise makers!THXINGU KINDLY BROTHER. THXINGU

[@Mk101T]

you said "Which I would think our government would say, we were too ignorant to understand and judge for ourselves." Well that is probably what most peoples "Seems to Me" method would tell them about human behavior and it's societal connections . And government not being free from human feelings and notions , would probably have that same outlook to some degree ?

[@BrianDoherty-e8s]

Nice to see a scientific opinion on Montana Megaliths vs. the opinions of urban refugees.

[@swainsongable]

The nubs. Can't recall where I heard this theory, but they considered the nubs in terms of electrical dissipation or generation with regard to plasma/aether and the quartz content of the granite. I get a good gut feeling when I consider these structures in terms of electricity and magnetism.

[@daveknight336]

same iv been trying to find someone with the tools to do this. I think there's something to do with microphone feedback because you can magnetize the granite and turn it into a "pick-up" that feeds the frequency back into itself with minimal external energy

[@thewidowmakermafia]

Interesting interview. Well done.

[@prince-solomon]

Highly interesting video, it's always best to hear different perspectives and explanations to avoid pitfalls or misguided zealotry. Not everything is high strangeness (too open minded) and not everything is explained in mainstream sciences & archaeology (too close minded) either, not even close. 50:50 I disagree with this quote from Carl Sagan, because it fundamentally devalues evidence and makes it subject to personal subjectivity & arbitrary declarations of what is "extraordinary" and what is not, what is good enough evidence and what is not, depending on that person's personal bias. And of course let's not forget a third possibility: a combination of the "artificial megalithic origin hypothesis" & the "natural erosion hypothesis"... how long -, how big of a cataclysm -, how long of a series of cataclysms -... do you need until an artificial structure becomes almost or virtually indistinguishable from a natural one? Looking at the catastrophic history of North America before and at the end of the Younger Dryas (in the period betweeen 14k-11,6k years ago and the aftermath) the only structures that would survive from that time (and not buried underneath many feet of soil) would be the sturdiest ones. Imagine how much of the Hoover Dam will survive after 24k years filled with several earth quakes, a few comet airbursts (Tunguska) and impacts, ice ages, gigantic continental super tsunamis, harsh winds and lots of rain... I bet people wouldn't recognize it was an artificial structure. How about in 64k years then? How old is modern human again? a few decades ago they said about 100k years, now we are at 300k+ years... more than enough time for nature to swallow up all traces. And now think about a global reset, every 6k years...with massive global catastrophies, global super tsunamis, solar flares & even plasma hitting earth, comets & asteroids bombarding our planet (most of which will burst in the air, 10 times more than hit the ground),...all due to a cyclical magnetic polar shift, which occurs every 6k years due to our solar system crossing the galactic sheet vertically. So your civilization has got 6k years to develop before nature pulls the plug... with most people dying, especially the advanced ones, and who has the best chances to survive? Hunter gatherer tribes, who are in the business of surviving all the time (the least "advanced" people on this planet right now). The big cycle of cataclysms is actually the 12k year cycle (with a lesser 6k year cycle)...and boy oh boy, 12k years ago it was literally the end of the world as those people knew it (talking about sea level rise...) If you're interested in this, there is an entire field of science that deals with this and the large body of evidence that points towards this reoccurring cataclysm -> Catastrophism. Read "The Adam and Eve Story" by Chan Thomas. In the 1950s he predicted exactly where our magnetic poles are currently racing towards to meet up... in the Bay of Bengal. The countdown has already begun, the magnetic poles are the countdown. This cycle is nearly up, we have been losing our magnetosphere for many decades now and it's increasingly weakening (first 5% per decade, since 2010 10% per decade, and by now surely even more). Solar forcing (the driving aspect behind climate change, the sun, who would've guessed...) has an increasingly bigger effect on this planet, causing more and more violent weather. Sorry for the novel... there are lots of interesting videos on this on the Suspicious0bservers channel with references to over 500 scientific papers that prove this 12k (6k) year cycle and the effects of solar forcing (which up until recently were conveniently ignored by the IPCC). A truly fascinating hypothesis.

[@stevenbroughman6049]

Awesome 👍

[@Lookbutalsosee360]

Looks, like a calendar winter but most likely, summer solstice.

[@jennifermarie9576]

Great video! Even with the discussion they still strike me as man made.

[@godbyone]

Yez especially the aerial view from overhead. The boulders were. In order like a camp fire.

[@danboyd6180]

If that dude from Montana University gave us one OTHER example of a natural occurrence of this happening I’d believe him but all he had was a drawing

[@Mk101T]

Only 1 other piece of evidence ??? How can you give up on the giants with space lazors so easily ? That just suxors . Go forth and cleanse your mind of this weak willed notion of needing evidence .

[@horacio-ho3bf]

Because if you are trained and intelligent it isn't that complicated?

[@jonroyer3139]

Maybe the nubs were like a stone tenon that would go into a stone mortise or even a mortise on the end of a wooden beam or hewn log. I would image that people with the skills to work stone could likely work in wood as well.

[@johnmatson7234]

I was thinking very similar. Perhaps they were used as joists.

[@MichaelWiberg-nh5cd]

Living in Montana I observed how the meadow would grow rocks each year they'll literally push up out of the soil.The movement of glaciers is from the past but rivers of flowing water has moved great quantities of material. The tall mountains Crack and break then fall along with snow each year the rocky mountains are still coming up granite is where it's heated up mineralization then driven up to the surface as solid rock.Theres lots of spots that attracted people to meet at from the past and they did work those places up for themselves.Its also the caves that were of interest to those of the past that held interest and much is still to be relocated today. Why does water flow the directions it does in geology and what's happening underground?

[@user-xh3yx7is3x]

Thank you for this interesting video. I learned a lot.

[@mtcoiner7994]

I live basically in the middle of the Montana Megaliths. Ive seen crazy formations all over the state that resemble these findings. Some of them definitely get the imagination working overtime. Unfortunately the scientist said exactly what i thought they would say. I want it to be ruins of a civilization thst lived 75,000 years ago as much as the next guy, but, im not even a scientist and they said exactly what i thought they would say. Feels bad man.

[@123pietasty321]

They can be wrong.....dare say subversive. The channel wandering wolf has some good footage of sage wall. It is definitely manmade. Check it out.

[@Mk101T]

@@123pietasty321 Well if there was an ancient more advanced civilization . I'd say their society collapsed from to many snake oil salesmen . A phenomenon seen today that is eroding science from it's verb form .

[@viktorstone7043]

​@@123pietasty321sage wall is definitely not man made. 😂

[@josephwaters2792]

Good talk! This talk made me imagine early man seeing these and thinking that someone had previously built them and then attempted to copy them. I also wonder if earlier man ever supplemented such structures. An example might be encountering a so-called "Bimini road" like-structure and adding smaller stones to makes a bridge and then later man arguing on whether it is natural or man-made and the answer might be mostly natural. I'm not saying Bimini is that but could we tell for certain? I enjoyed listening to Dr. Park's explanations. I had a girlfriend who was a geologist and I studied along with her and found it very easy to understand the basics. To get an idea of what I mean by the basics, there was a fun, overly silly but somewhat informative MTV-style video tape series from the early 2000s called "The Standard Deviants: Geology". I checked and some of it's on KZbin if anyone is interested.

[@claudiabullock1896]

fair from Dr Parker and v interesting. He knows his stuff! thank you.

[@garyfrancis-ns3kq]

😮 I am being reminded of a signature on your letters documents or published papers! We don't know how to read it but it is signed on the different walls or other structures!

[@robertevans8126]

Its nice to her /see some ancient stuff here in the good USA for once! Will be checking it out, thanks :)

[@UchihaMike83]

this is a good and interesting video

[@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f]

Excellent !

[@jwbrown9240]

Why in the world do people always assume we are the first tech savy civilization to inhabit this land? I find it extremely ignorant to ignore the fact that there are at least 4,000 years in which we have no record of those who formerly lived here and we assume that something that looks like a wall, acts like a wall and smells like a wall is just nature! Mind boggeling.

[@Mk101T]

It is a cliff edge , not a wall .

[@RonCobb-co6dr]

Yes, very true but most of that comes from acidemia, of course. There are maps from the 13 and 1400s , excellent maps from that time actually that have no information for the N.W. 4 States area when All Other areas are very well described and they name the cities, rivers, lakes, mountain ranges, desert areas, etc. The only thing marked on these maps about the, let's call it the north west four corners area, is a note to the fact that this area is land still occupied by and therefore owned by the giant ones. 25' tall humans would have no problem what soever in building this wall, the one dolman that is 3 piece and incredibly tall is awesome but done together and with whatever technology they had, would not be impossible. If you do a small amount of looking for the old maps, you will find a couple that list that area as off limits if you don't want to become a shishcabob for some very large and private people. Your geologist buddy is nice enough but he's young, he's got a career ahead of him, and if he doesn't want to loose it, he's got to be very careful with what he says on a show such as this. Say the wrong thing, and you're toast. All that college time and $$ is gone, they destroy you and black list your buns from doing geological work for say the State, like him, nice job, retirement, decent pay, but you'll loose it all. He's a valued person but we can't put them in a precarious position and have the poor boy trashed by the PTB. Those old maps are fascinating and I saw something about how they made them back then Soo accurately. Now this is ? A bit controversial but It is said that with conditions just right, you could lie down on your back and see a reflection of the world around you in the firmament. Just sayin, I saw that just the other day and it made perfect sense for making perfect maps when you didn't have a plane or a camera. I love this stuff. 🎉🎉❤😊

[@Mk101T]

@@RonCobb-co6dr You mean the big foots were making maps ?

[@RonCobb-co6dr]

@@Mk101T ha ha no, someone like Mcarter Mckerter sp. ? Early map makers would list the N. W. Corner of the US as kind of an unknown. But several would mention that the area was known to be inhabited by giant size people. The Olympics weren't even drawn. I think those maps were from the mid 1300s. If you Google it you'll find one in pretty short order. And now ! I read an article on those guys being able to use the firmament like a mirror back then and certain moon light. And that was how the got the accuracy on parchment. This flat earth stuff is getting pretty wild too. Hell I'm about 70, pull the plug, Reset Time ! Ha Ha ! The one thing I wish a lot more people could get their brains wrapped around is the Mudd Focils and what they mean to modern mankind. So Montana, the way cool Wall , as far as I'm concerned, some big ass people were handling those megalithic blocks / stones, ? Rodger Spurr has photos of a ? Mine ? For sure. They used a machine that left tracks like a tracked vehicle and in between they scooped the ? Softend stone

[@RonCobb-co6dr]

I don't know, it seems like we should be able to put a decent story together for the time before this last one, HA ! That we're not supposed to notice. And I have no idea how smart, or intelligent beings of that stature might be. I love the mega stuff, hard for that to be hauled off or burned ! Like every single old world brick and stone building. But I'm mumbling. Time machine man, we need a time machine.

[@jimmyreece759]

He is really digging deep now

[@zdarrin003]

I think the sage wall looks much older and much more weatherd than all the other walls.

[@Mk101T]

No they all look like the same geological phenomenon . But others were worked by human hands in place.

[@TopazBadger6550]

I do a lot of rock climbing. The knobs seen in Montana are wholly natural. They are very common on granite. I completely agree that there have been several ancient civilizations that possessed technologies totally unlike ours. But the doleman and these knobs aren't examples of that.

[@jimmyreece759]

WERE DO I GET A DEGREE IN ROCK IDIOTOLGY????

[@christinearmington]

I understand the explanation from geology, but I’m still puzzled by the long straight face of the sage wall. 🤔

[@robepperson8507]

what about the fact at looking at these nubs that they are fulcrum points whereas you could by using a strong log lift, shift, or move these large stones into a place of construction.,

[@Alarix246]

Well, could someone dig along the wall under the current terrain level (before it is fenced off and "protected" from amateurs) to check if the boulders have more precise edges deeper below, where they are protected by dirt?

[@lukegardner6917]

Just saw a video of sage wall where they are using ground penetrating radar to survey the buried portion. Supposedly it extends down another 15 feet and sits atop an unbroken solid foundation for the entire length of the wall.

[@Lookbutalsosee360]

Cool! I went to ISU as well.😊

[@EdSZiomek]

Contrarian opinion, from the least knowledgeable: I cringe when I hear the college grad explanation that the wall was natural, that the dolmen was natural. The word/name/expression that I didn't hear was "mythology". There was a mythology that hints at the cultural tradition, the Celts, and Prometheus that explain the ancient disdain for the tradition of dragging megalithic stones to the tops of mounds. Prometheus invented or discovered fire, and is depicted with a boulder on his back, forever damned to attempt to carry that boulder to the top, loses control, and repeats the process. My favorite dolmen, megalith, is the elongated skull-portrait, now known as the "Great Rock" of Ditmars Boulevard in Queens, New York City. Its narrow end has the faint traces of Akenaten, which matches a relief portrait found in a Berlin Museum. Oh, his location overlooks the present LaGuardia Airport, built on the wetlands of Long Island Sound, across from Ka-nekht-qa-shuti. aka Amen-hetep IV, , aka Connecticut, one of Akenaten's 75 titles, as explained by E.A. Wallis Budge in his two-Volume set, An Egyptian Hieroglyphic Dictionary, pg 1260 3rd entry from the bottom left, written in 1921! So, official historians and college geniuses pull their hair out over the simple truth, the educated and enormously capable builders were here in the Americas, thousands of years before Columbus. Yes for Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Vikings, Irish/Scottish/Welsh/English tribes, they were all here. And my favorite etymology, very close to the Ditmars "Great Rock", Manna Hahden etymology... Hebrew for "Morsel of Food from Eden", the Moses quote. Please treat yourself to my research on my blog...under the title "Is "Giant Rock", aka "Pet Rock" Akenaten, aka Imhotep IV, "Amen-hetep"? ...on Ditmars, near LaGuardia, Queens?" Oh, did I tell you the three Pharaohs of New Jersey? Paramus, Ramsey, Ramapo, aka Rameses 1, Rameses 2, Rameses 3. Thank you.

[@franciscoblank7889]

Maybe 🤔 yes maybe. !!! The tarterians !!! After ice age, maybe yes maybe 🤔.

[@jamesn.economou9922]

A guy would have better odds of winning the lottery every day, than Mother Nature, stacking boulders on this mountain, in such a fashion. I can't believe it's even debatable.

[@jamesn.economou9922]

You have to try to make a point first. Do you want to give it a go? @@Iwishiwasanoscarmeyerweiner

[@RomoRooster]

I think the nubs are used for extracting from the bedrock.

[@11regnartseht]

The Spanish repoted that the temple of the sun in Cuzco Peru was covered in huge plates of gold. When I saw the nubs there I assumed it was to affix something to the wall. And the stone is perfectly natural. The crystal grains and structure of the rock is perfectly normal for the type of rock present, and some stonework is less precise when the rock type is not as suitable for carving.

[@BBond88]

Great video mate! BTW, it’s (Montana Capital- Helena) pronounced HELL-ENah, not Hel-aina No big deal, just something I noticed.

[@INCREDHISTORY]

Thank you! I’m from Kansas, we tend to have our own way of speaking lol. Probably not going to change it. Thanks so much for watching.

[@Stoned406]

Ope also posted this comment! Forgive me! 😂

[@jerrykinworthy9225]

The wall is 2 different color rock, i feel like that wouldnt be very natural. Each row is different color.

[@kman7169]

Acedamia has great mmin control techniques --- geese . Like its a trigger talking in circles and being silly when something shortcircuits them . Anyway thank you

[@INCREDHISTORY]

You’re welcome! I personally thought he did a great job explaining. He was very kind and open minded too.

[@notarobot2243]

I liked the round rocks that looked like goosebumps all around it. Looked like tiny nubs all around it.

[@RichardSzlamer]

To be honest It did look natural but this was a great and very educational. Thanks Richard Szlamer

[@scaremeister]

The wall looks very much manmade, the nubs, etc etc.. Can you give a location of the wall ?

[@richarddullum2373]

The xenolith is not the same rock at its matrix, right? What possible types of rock are more resistant to erosion? Are they pieces of crust incorporated into the magma? Shouldn't the xenolith extend into the plane of the rock surface? 43:07 Wall comparison shows a small rectangular rock inserted into the wall to maintain the straight line of the rock in the course above it. It's right in the center of the frame on the left side, showing Sage Wall.

[@ung427]

Is it the last place where the rock was attached to the quarry rock, where it naturally just broke off? Because as the chiseling gets the attachment point smaller and smaller, at some point it would break off. This of course would be it the perfect shapes were taken from the quarry by tools that cut all sides rather than made cracks and cracked the rocks off, shaping them later... like we do today... rather than actually cutting the rock all the way around except for one or two small points that are meant to be cut around until the rock breaks off at the point... which then would have to be chiseled down... and sometimes apparently not.

[@WayneChechotko]

Could the nubs be used as a hanger to attach lumber to the megaliths? If they were the masters of stone, they would have mastered carpentry as well.

[@saulluque1376]

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[@INCREDHISTORY]

Much appreciated! Enjoy the channel. New documentary coming today.

[@SMMBHQ-cg2zy]

the nubs you show are uniformally at the bottoms of the blocks , as if they might of assisted in lowering the blocks into place . I hadnt noticed this until you pointed it out . even if its contrary to what you were saying about the nubs being randomly placed . until now i would of agreed with you but then your footage shows the opposite , how strange ?

[@argonaught5666]

These formations like tizer dolman and sage wall are not man made nor glacial remnants. They are the result of hard nodules and columns in the Granite. The surrounding Granite was less solicitous and oxidized more quickly and decomposed faster. Erosion eventually took the decomposed Granite away leaving the solicitous pods, nodules and columns behind. The video states that the glacial termination is far north of this area. This is true but keep in mind there were local glaciers and including in the Elk Horn mountains. It is especially evident on the south end of the range. Glacial moraine is quite wide spread in western Montana but is mostly due to local glaciers.

[@markkolmorgan7728]

I can answer the question on the knobs. They are a remnant of the moving process. They will be on the trailing end of megalithic stones as they move, possibly on other sides as well. They keep the ropes from dropping to the ground while your work force rests. Heavy weights stretch ropes, people get tired, if rope gets pulled under stone, stone will not move until rope removed from beneath. Basic principles...

[@enigmavariations3809]

Very interesting! That never occurred to me. Also, I've seen a fascinating video where he made a good case for the nubs being used to anchor a device with wooden arms that was used to aid in chiseling out the exact shape of the stone that was needed.

[@markkolmorgan7728]

@enigmavariations3809 yes, by pecking the "high spots" away between the two surfaces the absolute fit can be attained, but multiple lifts are needed for this process and fixed lifting points would be a huge advantage. Knobs could/would be removed later if necessary.

[@Jjweeks01]

Ropes and heavy weights? Come on?!? How many people that would take to maneuver a stone the size of a trash truck? How thick and heavy a rope? That just not feasible. The biggest and best cranes we have today can not lift that kind of load reliably

[@TylerChamb]

@@enigmavariations3809 That's just one idea of 100 about what they are meant for. Nobody actually knows.

[@ChrisFord-wh1gl]

Nope 👎🏻 That’s silly 🙃. Too many huge stones don’t have them right next to one that does. If it was that simple it wouldn’t be a mystery. You are lame as hell to think so many people have wondered for so long and you spout some shit like that.

[@richarddullum2373]

The theory of xenoliths accounting for 'nubs' observed on the stones in this area, at Sage Wall and Tizer Dolmen, is easily testable in a materials science lab. The 'xenolith' or 'nubs' could be sampled to determine if their composition is different or the same. I also believe there is observable evidence at the Sage Wall that the 'checkerboard' construction is intentional, not natural. I observed a block, small, rectangular, about 2' long and appears to be 4"-6" thick, underneath a large rock in the course above, which continues the plane of that course in a straight horizontal line. That block had to have been placed. I have a photo of this I can email to skeptics. Or, you can observe this rock in frame 9:27, above in the video, in the center. The triangular rocks to its right continue the straight plane of the course above it.

[@MARILYNANDERSON88]

I hear the geologist saying it's 90 percent likely the rock formation has not been affected by humans. I see it's mostly natural and may be embellished by humans.

[@billybobwombat2231]

We have similar granite outcrops in Australia, whilst they can give you images that conjure up "weird shit" but looking through my and others geological trained eyes it's more concise to allow natural influences as the builders of these beautiful natural features 🦘

[@MichaelLeBlanc-p4f]

That monolithic is epic in its expression. As all time has shown, 'Humans' looked at their enviroment and soon set to work improving it. Inspired by what nature showed them, a band set to work creating a symbol of the male life-giving organ and prescious much envied possesion and either erected it or took advantage of an inspiring stone formation.. Even added a smooth cap leaving me suspecting the males in the culture were 'circumsised' . . . Just a theory for speculation. Cheers - : )

[@davidpines6621]

A vine wrapped around [non self locking knot]nubbed block would help not tipping load if lifted

[@SMMBHQ-cg2zy]

the nubs you show are all at the bottom of the blocks ?

[@thomasrape4616]

If those stones were anywhere else but the north American continent there would be no question whether they were man made or not.

[@bigfoot163]

Idk, I have seen some bizzare geology, stuffing was convinced was man made, but then the more you look around the more you see the odd natural patterns

[@leroylem51]

Before the end of the megafauna, humans needed protection from migrating herds of giant creatures... also, dolmens would make excellent hunting perch's to launch spears and other projectiles into passing creatures. The humans that lived back then may have been much larger than nowadays and making the megaliths easier to construct... This explanation is much simpler than any so far... Think "bigger" when considering "Megaliths"... Excavations need to take place to find artifacts !

[@mwh3227]

I really wanted to believe!

[@Zulutime44]

At first I was skeptical about this wall, but now that I've seen close ups of the "mystery rocks of SW Saskatchewan, I'm struck by the similarity in construction. The Sask. collection is clearly a fortress layout, overlooking a valley. Assuming both sites are artificial, the question is, how old are they. Dressed stones fitted together and exposed to the elements, run, rain, ice, etc. will eventually show the erosion seen here. Any age guesses?

[@jasonlubbers6329]

Has anyone checked to see if these "nubs" are interlocked with the backing stones? Might be of structural nature.

[@thealternativecontrarian9936]

Someone needs to look at the City of Rocks area in Idaho for similar formations and structures. I've seen a couple of pictures but haven't been there yet.

[@timesurfingalien]

Do the signs of intelligent design automatically mean human?

[@jimmyreece759]

YOU CAN THINK ABOUT IT ANY WAY YOU WANT.....BUT WHAT IS THE ONE TRUTH???

[@seanbrazell7095]

Big bolders collect in ancient seas, seas recede, water flows over a big pile of rocks, they become rounded and fixed. Its not surprising.

[@dieboldranger175]

Could the nubs lock into another rock for structural strength.

[@oolum]

Where ever he got his degree, he should ask for his money back. Too bad he hasn't become more intuitive as a great many people are these days.

[@INCREDHISTORY]

I thought he did an excellent job. You didn’t really argue against any of his points here. You kind of just said a few negative things about him and nothing more.

[@questioneverything1682]

He explained geological processes that could produce such rock formations. He noted that some sites are remarkable, like looking at a snapshot of such processes frozen in time for us to observe. Geologists can likely show evidence of these processes at hundreds, or thousands, of sites. I think he explained his knowledge and his "best guesses" based on looking at photos, very well. His conclusions about these Montana formations don't mean that the similarly-constructed walls of Peru, Egypt, ancient Turkey or even Sicily, were not made by man; only that THESE remarkable monoliths and seemingly stacked and balanced "dolmans" are products of natural processes. (Btw, I LOVE that Graham Hancock, who points out that he is a journalist, is asking important questions about ancient humanity and challenging the academic Establishment's standard explanations. I think many of his theories are much more likely than their dogma.)

[@christophermyers8157]

The "simple" geologic explanation of the dolmans in Montana is not simple compared to the simple anthropological explanation, that humans put these stones in place. In the Geologic explanation of this being batholiths with plutons plus erosion is so unlikely. The capstone on these dolmans would have to be in place for millions of years without a single large earthquake ever shaking the ground! Then oddly, they claim, just a stones throw from here in Yellowstone, a supervolcano that erupts with a magnitude 9 level earthquake has erupted on average every 480,000 years. So how does a 10 million year old dolman survive 20 magnitude 9 earthquakes without being toppled. In Sacsyahuman, you only have to account for several hundred to thousands of years without a quake to keep a dolman, and yet many of those are toppled. The nubs and linear features are proof that these are made by humans. Then of course the analog in the Sierra's with Yosemite and the Batholith down there. They give the same explanation, which is obviously false based upon the evidence. Most of Yosemite, is layers of tuff built up and welded together, later being heated to become granite. This is obvious because of the slopes on the opposite sides of the valley indicating volcanic welded tough deposits. You can take it for granite is one of the most dubious phrases ever coined. Granite is neither common in origin, looks or arrangement, and the typical rocks can be placed in their known "batholith" by chemical analysis. Basalt is more common than granite by a long shot. The entire ocean basin is composed of Serpentinite and Basalt. Most of the continental crust is sedimentary, minus the basalt and batholiths. Most batholiths have been metamorphosed, and are technically not even granite, but gneiss, schist, and phyllites, which are identical chemically to granite, but altered by shear forces during heating. None of these rocks move while they are cold except during block thrust fault earthquakes, which are not caused by plate tectonics, but magmatic shrinking and cooling under the crust. All of University Geology and History have a vested interest in teaching that there was no pre-flood civilization, or no world wid flood at all, when there were eye witnesses who wrote down the accounts. It's called the Noah's flood story, and is written in at least a dozen languages by the children/heirs of Noah. Even if they found tools embedded in these rocks with DNA attached to them, they would still claim these are natural, because of the agenda against Biblical truth. During my senior year at Lewis-Clark State College with my geology major, I proposed that all of the floods in the Western United states could be dated to the exact same time period as my research paper. Using crinoid and radiolarians plus potassium-argon dating. My Atheist Geology Ph.D adviser said absolutely no way are you going to write a research paper on this if you want to graduate under my program. You need to try something that doesn't have so big of a grasp. I said what do you propose, he said that is up to you! I walked out, came back the next day, and quit. When the university purposeley thwarts research into Noah's flood it is time to admit they aren't interested in truth. Since that day, although considerably poorer over the last 35 years, I have seen nearly all of the evidence of the pre flood civilizations around the world, including Silicon/fossilized trees that were thousands of feet tall. The Rocks are crying out, but most of Geology has deaf ears!

[@exracer2727]

I'd like to hear your take on Gornya Shoria.

[@edgardopineda3317]

There is a time when it is obvious that scientists do not know, and instead of saying we do not have a answer, they give a convoluted answer, to me it is obvious that it not natural that that rock is on top of those two rocks.

[@Mk101T]

Well nobody is forcing you to be active in science. You a free to choose from the plethora of spoon fed pseudo science out there .

[@jerrykinworthy9225]

There was a native American templar/Masonic order. If anyone is interested, i would recommend the Cosmic Summit for more on that. Its a fascinating topic.

[@markcummins6571]

So, his name is Dr. Peter Parker,,, and he climbs around in Montana? And is not impressed with those cliffs size.

[@rogergriffin9893]

From what I've seen, I assume that the rocks were naturally formed. However, I've also thought that even if the basic form of most of the rocks is natural many of them may have been rearranged by the hand of man. In fact, throughout history there are countless examples of humans using naturally formed rocks as the building blocks for their own construction. Some of the existing structures may have a portion that was natural and then the rest of it was made by moving nearby rocks. The nubs are a unique feature that is found at megalithic sites around the world and are completely unexplained. I think that most of them were used as attachment points for some kind of lifting apparatus, ropes or whatever. One last pure speculation is that if these were manmade maybe they vastly predate the last wave of native american settlement.

[@tlapaltehuilotlitztli]

That's a Spanish marker for mines that let's you know what mine is close and the feature to look for

[@MichaelWiberg-nh5cd]

That appears to be erosion settling down upon rock. This isn't u usual in Montana the place grows rock each spring.But it's sorta cool alright, was there anything else you've run across nearby that might explain better what your looking at. I wouldn't add details to your saga that's where confusion is encountered.Montana does have a history that's rich and full of colorful people from everywhere.

[@aking032962]

The nubs look like a way that the poured stone is made to keep the straps or ropes from slipping while moving the stone in place. That's what it looks like to me.

[@chrism8705]

That rock looks like a glacial erratic that split