Android Race From WEAKEST To STRONGEST

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MoodZi

MoodZi

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@tylerharper5306
@tylerharper5306 Жыл бұрын
Damn that ending prediction for cell max is spot on
@vonmaximoff1742
@vonmaximoff1742 Жыл бұрын
Literally!
@toumabyakuya
@toumabyakuya Жыл бұрын
I mean, it was explained why he is like that (and honestly, Geddo himself is the villain of this flick).
@mardaumlauf7749
@mardaumlauf7749 3 ай бұрын
Cell max is body there is no consciousness and no mind so it does not count and was not finished.
@andrewverrett568
@andrewverrett568 Жыл бұрын
Cell technically could have trained and kept getting stronger and stronger, having the saiyan cells and friezas cells his power could have had really no limits. We see how far goku and vegeta have gone , and look a frieza now. Cell had all of thier dna. Which tells me he had the most potential out of all characters in dbz
@xdragonlance
@xdragonlance Жыл бұрын
And he had Namekian regeneration thanks to Piccolo's cells. He could get those Saiyan powerups in a fraction of the time.
@Chizinky
@Chizinky Жыл бұрын
@@xdragonlance and combine them with frieza's
@stevenchapman7536
@stevenchapman7536 Жыл бұрын
Cell had Cell jrs as well, they could’ve been unstoppable 😅
@MatthewJamesKalasky
@MatthewJamesKalasky Жыл бұрын
21 even more so.
@Chizinky
@Chizinky Жыл бұрын
@@MatthewJamesKalasky nah cell's got way more potential, 21 is just powerful
@Noahbds
@Noahbds Жыл бұрын
"hopefully he isn’t a brainless meathead tat appears in the last 15 min of the movie". Well guess what
@youngtruth77
@youngtruth77 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@JinxeBlaq
@JinxeBlaq Жыл бұрын
Yeeep, sure is lol
@chrislad24
@chrislad24 8 ай бұрын
aged well
@braddl9442
@braddl9442 Жыл бұрын
The reason I suspect android 18 got stronger is that the limitless energy stamina thing just over time works like a passive EXP bonus. She does not have to train, but will constantly have passive growth. Her brother 17 on the other hand took the time to learn to master his powers and energy so he had actual growth. I think that is what Gero feared from them. That they over time would just keep getting stronger even if they did nothing.
@nomercyinc6783
@nomercyinc6783 9 ай бұрын
they werent robots just upgraded humans if they were robots 18 wouldnt have a child
@shredwerd009
@shredwerd009 3 ай бұрын
Or Akira just made shit up when it was convenient for him as he always did during the series.
@cogahan
@cogahan Жыл бұрын
Android 13 doesn't have a goddamn baseball cap. It's a trucker hat
@waynemetheny5279
@waynemetheny5279 6 ай бұрын
gero was going through a phase
@SmartAlec86
@SmartAlec86 2 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the difference between a baseball cap and a trucker hat is no different than the difference between a violin and a fiddle.
@Dbacks723
@Dbacks723 8 күн бұрын
@@SmartAlec86 trucker hats have like the loop thingies in the back
@SmartAlec86
@SmartAlec86 8 күн бұрын
@@Dbacks723 Are you referring to mesh?
@Dbacks723
@Dbacks723 8 күн бұрын
@@SmartAlec86 yeah I think
@Nathan_Wright
@Nathan_Wright Жыл бұрын
It always perplexed me if Dr. Gero was going to turn himself into an android anyway, why he didn’t just make himself an infinite energy model like 17 & 18 instead of an absorption model. He could’ve built himself to be the strongest of them all, but instead gave all that power to the two that ultimately ended up killing him. I suppose he’s more a scientist than a fighter, but him being one of the most brilliant minds on earth, you’d think he would’ve thought of that.
@cond.oriano3264
@cond.oriano3264 Жыл бұрын
I always assumed he turned himself into an android before he had the advanced technology that he used with 17 and 18
@kyleellis1825
@kyleellis1825 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was because he saw how much stronger Goku got each time he showed up. He was worried the perpetual energy models might eventually get outclassed, whereas he could always absorb however much the Z fighters got.
@kenpoarniceguy1
@kenpoarniceguy1 Жыл бұрын
Probably because Toriyama was pressured into making new android characters that were better than a "fat clown and old man." Then 17 and 18 had to be brushed aside because "they weren't scary enough."
@MrZahsome
@MrZahsome Жыл бұрын
I think Gero grew more powerful the more energy he absorbed so maybe he wanted to grow more powerful without needing to train? Idk lmao.
@Nathan_Wright
@Nathan_Wright Жыл бұрын
@@kyleellis1825 True. Even though it wasn’t a thing at the time, now we see that 17 actually got a lot stronger in Super just by some light training which is still stupid that he’s on SS Blue level. So their power isn’t set, they actually can grow stronger. BUT that wasn’t actually a concept in the original DBZ.
@CainDB
@CainDB 2 жыл бұрын
Technically Super 17 is the strongest Android in entire Dragon Ball multiverse, because of his mechanism he has limitless absorbing ability that allows him to absorb energy AND kinetic force from punches (which means that punching him makes him stronger and doesn't actually do any damage), his only flaw is he cannot absorb both at the same time and that doomed him, but otherwise he's the most dangerous and strongest Android ever, because he's absorbing ability is supposed to be limitless
@lilmoesieable
@lilmoesieable 2 жыл бұрын
android 21 destroys super 17
@CainDB
@CainDB 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilmoesieable because you say so or because you actually have any kind of REAL argument?
@lilmoesieable
@lilmoesieable 2 жыл бұрын
@@CainDB she regenerate, why do you think when fat buu was al trainend and stuff he didnt compete in the top?
@CainDB
@CainDB 2 жыл бұрын
@@lilmoesieable you do realize that Super 17 in theory doesn't need to regenerate because he doesn't take any damage because of his absorbing ability?
@lilmoesieable
@lilmoesieable 2 жыл бұрын
@@CainDB first of all he was the strongest android in gt after dragon ball kai, android 21 has the powers of goku and everyone also majin buu and cell afrer cell absorb so i dont think super 17 is able to compete with 21 hes strong but not as 21
@devinudairam561
@devinudairam561 Жыл бұрын
So we all gunna forget that Arale can body this entire list?
@kylethomas9130
@kylethomas9130 Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@devinudairam561
@devinudairam561 Жыл бұрын
@@kylethomas9130 it's crazy how we have God's of destruction, angels, Supreme Kai level threats and yet Arale is just skipping around somewhere happy like a true menace to society. Thank God she was good natured, otherwise there wouldn't even be a Dragon Ball series period.
@rsync9490
@rsync9490 Жыл бұрын
@@devinudairam561 i remember as a kid using arale in Tenkaichi 3, she was a fucking menace.
@devinudairam561
@devinudairam561 Жыл бұрын
@@rsync9490 I'm telling you. This new gen knows nothing about General Tao, Arale, the original Garlic, or Commander Red from the old days. The other day my cousin asked me who Turles was and why he looks like Goku 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@abittoocheesy3635
@abittoocheesy3635 Жыл бұрын
@@devinudairam561 Dragon Ball Z fan tries to recognize upa challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) (GONE WRONG)
@mralexander4209
@mralexander4209 2 жыл бұрын
With the Cell Jr thing, I believe it was stated that each Cell Jr had an equal power level to Cell at that time, however they are less durable than Cell which is probably how ssj2 Gohan managed to rip off various body parts.
@extremelegendsupreme4596
@extremelegendsupreme4596 2 жыл бұрын
You could just say that the return of cooler took place during the 3 year time skip for androids.so that way it would make sense for goku and vegeta to be stronger since it would be before piccolo fused kami.
@dtuck333
@dtuck333 2 жыл бұрын
But Dende was the guardian of Earth, which could only be the case after Piccolo fused with Kami
@extremelegendsupreme4596
@extremelegendsupreme4596 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtuck333 toei put dende there only because to foreshadow him being guardian of earth in the anime and manga.that could be disregarded especially since in this movie goku hasn’t mastered super saiyan and gohan isn’t teen gohan from the cell games.also future trunks wasn’t there which he would be if it happened in the 10 day gap.
@dtuck333
@dtuck333 2 жыл бұрын
@@extremelegendsupreme4596 but by that logic, then Goku should've been super surprised that Vegeta turned Super Saiyan & yet Goku didn't acknowledge it at all, thus why it has to take place between Piccolo fusing with Kami & before they entered the Hyperbolic Time Chamber
@extremelegendsupreme4596
@extremelegendsupreme4596 2 жыл бұрын
@@dtuck333 actually during the Android saga goku never saw vegeta as a super saiyan.during the Android saga when vegeta saved goku from 19 goku was already unconscious from the heart virus and his fight with 19.Then when goku wakes up he already wants to go to the next level of super saiyan and goku even says that vegeta was gonna do it.that implies that goku was already aware of vegeta going super saiyan.Also in return of cooler goku was the ONLY one who saw vegeta as a super saiyan.Gohan,piccolo,krillin ETC we’re never around vegeta so it makes sense why there surprised.
@dtuck333
@dtuck333 2 жыл бұрын
@@extremelegendsupreme4596 to which Goku knew Vegeta turned Super Saiyan because he could see everything that was going on when he was unconscious from the heart virus. It was shown in the canon manga that Goku has telepathic powers & it implied that he knew everything that went on when he was unconscious. It doesn't line up perfectly with either time, but much more lines up with between Kami & Piccolo fusing & the Hyperbolic Time Chamber training
@Dugga49
@Dugga49 Жыл бұрын
17 also tamed the Cell Jrs and keeps them on his island. Possibly another way he got stronger was sparing with them
@toybirdy
@toybirdy Жыл бұрын
Gohan destroyed all the cell jr’s that’s why I hate dbs. I doubt cell was shitting out cell jr’s when he was waiting for the day of the tournament. Dbs anime is just dogshit. Imo I feel like Akira toriyama has nothing to do with the anime there is no proof imo while with the manga they show his correction with the art. Which imo the dbs manga is more canon then the god awful anime where goku needed Ui to beat kefla which is a combination of 2 weak low level saiyans.
@stopabledu
@stopabledu Жыл бұрын
@@toybirdy get your point but relax 😂😂😂these are fictional characters who fly and shoot energy balls. never get worked over things that is not based in reality
@darkflameofphonix4709
@darkflameofphonix4709 Жыл бұрын
@@toybirdy Kefla is literally a fusion of a ssj2 and a controlled berserk which is probably above ssj3 level. When you consider that ssj Vegito was already like 10 times stronger than ssj3 goku it very much makes sense. I hate the manga version where ultimate Gohan is equal to her, like fusion is pretty much the most powerful thing in the series and Gohan who trained for 5min after not training for years was as strong as her. Also UI still bodied Kefla, it's not like it was close.
@Dugga49
@Dugga49 Жыл бұрын
@@toybirdy Well… Kale by herself was giving SSB Goku fits. I wouldn’t say they were weak. The Manga is the place where the Cell Jrs exist, I don’t think they made an anime appearance. Them being alive sorta makes sense, they do regenerate at the cellular level and Gohan mostly just karate chopped them so hard they exploded. Hate it or not, DBS is the canon series following DBZ (technically following the end of Kid Buu arc and right before the introduction of Uub). Some of DBS is cool. Like I like Hit a lot. And the Moro arc in the manga was great. Lots of potential. But I get what your saying.
@Amardarial
@Amardarial Жыл бұрын
@@toybirdy DBS makes sense just fine, you just can't understand it is all, like Kelfa being two weak saiyans is just a stupid statement and alone shows zero understanding.
@TheGuyWhoMakesRandomTierLists
@TheGuyWhoMakesRandomTierLists Жыл бұрын
It's important to note that most of the old movies were created as promotions for the show at conventions and anime expos. That's why a lot of the movies mirror the show in villian design and major events. They were meant to get people interested and excited for the manga/anime in an era without internet.
@My_Master_Waves
@My_Master_Waves Жыл бұрын
Most movies also came out in much different time periods than people think. Like 1st cooler movie was released while Goku was fighting Frieza on namek in the anime(So Frieza wasn't even defeated yet but they released a movie that said Goku defeated Frieza and returned back to earth) and even in the manga hasn't returned from Yardrat yet(So they didn't even know about Trunks and King Cold). ON TOP OF THAT Takao Koyama said movie begun production 6 month before release so by that point they had no idea about things like buff 100% Frieza because by that point it wasn't a thing even in the manga. Most people don't know any of this and say so many outlandish things about the movie because of that.
@Arutima
@Arutima Жыл бұрын
Android 21 is now canon thanks to the Super Hero movie.
@Anomaly_x3
@Anomaly_x3 7 ай бұрын
Super Hero itself is not canon but it’s something.
@mallum4
@mallum4 7 ай бұрын
@@Anomaly_x3 it is
@MakuraZalis
@MakuraZalis 3 ай бұрын
​@@Anomaly_x3toriyama said it was canon. So it's canon
@Paradoxe_0
@Paradoxe_0 3 ай бұрын
Technically no, the person android 21 is based on is canon now, but not the transformation of her into an android
@Dbacks723
@Dbacks723 8 күн бұрын
@@Paradoxe_0 yeah
@MountainHomeJerrel
@MountainHomeJerrel Жыл бұрын
That was rad. Thanks for covering the androids. I'll subscribe.
@alexanderren1097
@alexanderren1097 Жыл бұрын
Imperfect Cell: “It’s too dark in here. I can’t seen anything… Wait, now I see a light.” 16: “Walk towards it!”
@acolyte06312
@acolyte06312 Жыл бұрын
WHAT THE HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!!!
@supra0_0nova
@supra0_0nova Жыл бұрын
He's part moth
@waynemetheny5279
@waynemetheny5279 6 ай бұрын
forget about killing son goku
@slyfox7452
@slyfox7452 Жыл бұрын
I always loved android 8 and android 16s dynamic with their respective sayians. 8 tought goku to show mercy and hold your punch while 16 taught Gohan to stop holding back
@Maka_Matoi
@Maka_Matoi 2 жыл бұрын
It's been far too long, I miss these types of videos❤️
@Discord2319
@Discord2319 2 жыл бұрын
Boi, I miss videos in general
@marioionion2
@marioionion2 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@jjbjjb273
@jjbjjb273 2 жыл бұрын
Always enjoy watching dragon ball when the red ribbon army was in it. They weren't my favourite villains but they had something about them that really stood out. Obviously Toriyama felt the same. I hope this isn't the last time we see them android 16.super 17 and even android 13 would fit In the new series
@TheCriiss180
@TheCriiss180 Жыл бұрын
17 secret training was... Battling cell juniors?
@leviathan_is_me
@leviathan_is_me Жыл бұрын
​@@TheCriiss180no, they were all destroyed. He did the same thing Frieza did....he thought REALLY hard about it. Hey, if the U6 Saiyans are a thing, so is this.......tingly backs ffs...STILL PISSED.
@texanoni0904
@texanoni0904 Жыл бұрын
@leviathan3187 nah the Cell Juniors are still alive at the place 17 was at (forgot the name)
@Borp56
@Borp56 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you're back! Been watching for a few years now and can't wait to see what you've got cooking!
@Shadowkiller-dq2ju
@Shadowkiller-dq2ju Жыл бұрын
Trunks:The technician term is cyborgs Goku: Androids!!
@supesisfodder7427
@supesisfodder7427 Жыл бұрын
Not even cyborgs
@cooperblackwell1392
@cooperblackwell1392 Жыл бұрын
21 is also in kakarot btw, it shook me to my core because she’s bulmas dads research assistant
@Apocal3ypse
@Apocal3ypse 2 жыл бұрын
Lets go the legend is back! ❤️
@Areldil
@Areldil Жыл бұрын
In the manga, Major Metallitron/Sergeant Metallic don't have veins like we saw here, it's filler and adaptation to make the episode longer. And for android 8 i always imagined he was some sort of human dead body brought back to life like frankenstein creature (as he is resurected in buu saga.) i think except anime filler a good indication of mechanical or organic based android (cyborg in fact) are veins. I take exemple on #13 who can has veins and can increase is muscle mass so is organic like #17 and #18 unlike #14 #15 #16 and #19 who are fully androids/artifificials. Gero/#20 is different because beside his brain his body is fully mechanical, he is paradoxally the most cybernetised of all.
@waynec17
@waynec17 Жыл бұрын
ok i see what your saying abought android 8 i though the same thing , Also android 17 and 18 age much slower then a normal human , apart from their cybernetic enhancements their human biology was modify to age much slower and they heal from wounds and damage faster than a normal human. like when cell was beating up 17 really bad. he kept getting back up.
@QuickSilverKitsune
@QuickSilverKitsune Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: if Super Saiyan had been a concept during the original Dragon Ball, Eighter's Death would've been a catalyst for a Super Saiyan Transformation
@Lupo32
@Lupo32 Жыл бұрын
That or when krillin died and goku went on a rampage against the R.R. army
@DaRozeman
@DaRozeman 2 ай бұрын
@@Lupo32 I think you mean against King Piccolo's army, Krillin wasn't involved (at least not much) in the Red Ribbon Army arc. It was Tambourine that killed Krillin just after the Martial Arts Tournament that Tien won.
@TechnicSky
@TechnicSky Жыл бұрын
Remember. Cooler remembers Goku, so it’s safe to say that the Cooler movie follows the same timeline as the sequel.
@JSun3000
@JSun3000 Жыл бұрын
Super Android 13 had phenomenal animation.Better fight scenes than anything in DBS.
@mylles1112
@mylles1112 4 күн бұрын
And he also in his base form had such funny personality, snarky and punchy and the drawl made it super unique, yeah he is my favorite Android
@monsterwith21faces92
@monsterwith21faces92 2 жыл бұрын
my boi back
@sonofsparta3858
@sonofsparta3858 2 жыл бұрын
For now
@sonofsparta3858
@sonofsparta3858 2 жыл бұрын
And he gone for a year
@monsterwith21faces92
@monsterwith21faces92 2 жыл бұрын
@@sonofsparta3858 🤣
@scottdreemurrthegodofcreation
@scottdreemurrthegodofcreation Жыл бұрын
Where’s Mira who literally became so powerful his self destruction would’ve ended all of existence
@lucienhaulotte4049
@lucienhaulotte4049 Жыл бұрын
Only "canon source" or toriyama aproved like the movie that he made the design of
@nohero1339
@nohero1339 Жыл бұрын
​@Lucien Haulotte Mira was in DragonBall online I believe Toriyama did character designs and story for that game That game also had Androud 9 and Cell X in it
@extremelegendsupreme4596
@extremelegendsupreme4596 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been a while man glad your back
@vision-dz6cm
@vision-dz6cm Жыл бұрын
Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks were taking on 13(regular),14, and 15 in their base forms for a while, yet they used super saiyan against 19 right away. This couldn't have been after the time chamber either because Gohan wasn't a super saiyan yet.
@ginnungagapabyss5639
@ginnungagapabyss5639 Жыл бұрын
The real question is how powerful would super 17 be if he fused/absorbed all of the other androids. (Maybe including Mira, Fu, and angel Moro73)
@Midnightgooner69
@Midnightgooner69 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a master of all martial arts just to get your ass kicked by a kid with a stick and a tail
@sufisufian7747
@sufisufian7747 2 жыл бұрын
Arale is the ultimate android in the Dragon Ball universe..
@Lupo32
@Lupo32 Жыл бұрын
Originally from dr slump
@boomerangfishcb
@boomerangfishcb Жыл бұрын
TRUE
@Danzig420
@Danzig420 3 ай бұрын
As much as the Cell blowing himself up infinite zenkai boost thing is ridiculous, it’s because of that and many other reasons that he’s never had a legit return to the series. He’s that overpowered and honestly the Z fighters got lucky Gohan pulled it out against him back when SS2 was the peak of power because could you imagine Cell training and or absorbing some of the current era fighters? He’d be right up there with Super Saiyan Blue power easily and keep going from there because he’d never make the mistake he made with Gohan twice as he was far too intelligent for that.
@aaryayt7747
@aaryayt7747 2 жыл бұрын
well, now it's been confirmed that the gammas are the strongest androids after cellmax
@CafeLiquerstreams
@CafeLiquerstreams Жыл бұрын
Its why I'm hoping we get a cannon 21 that is more mixed in (my idea was a xenobiologist who thought Gero had left the RR but was caught up in the infinite android project (maybe an early attempt that escaped thanks to a lack of mind scrubbing like 17 and 18) who proceeds to just continue her research while upgrading her body with Piccalo's many lost limbs and possibly having convinced Satan to allow her to do a little research into Majin physiology likely ending with her having to split from her evil half using spirit diffusion but leaving her intact this time to act as a mother figure to Gamma and possibly even 17 and 18)
@acolyte06312
@acolyte06312 Жыл бұрын
13:14 "I was waiting to see how 'things played out.' " "Was, was that sarcasm?" "I am not programmed for sarcasm." "I'm proud of you."
@Almighty_WarriorZ
@Almighty_WarriorZ 2 жыл бұрын
LETS GO HES BACK!
@williamleblanc2623
@williamleblanc2623 Жыл бұрын
You didn't mention Taopaipai. I always suspected he'd been turned into a cyborg by Dr.Gero.
@Alphine172
@Alphine172 2 жыл бұрын
He fought Goku in SSJ3 in the manga rather than Blue so that at least makes a bit more sense, though I wish they used a better excuse for his massive power boost rather than just saying he fought random crooks.
@hollow3450
@hollow3450 Жыл бұрын
That's just how super is. Bad writing everywhere. Not a single thing in super makes sense.
@Dragofrost7777
@Dragofrost7777 Жыл бұрын
Apparently he trained with reformed Cell Jrs that Gohan didn't kill in the manga. Cell is pretty strong so realisticly, he could have trained with them until he could take on all 6 at once
@arrownoir
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
The manga isn’t canon.
@Alphine172
@Alphine172 Жыл бұрын
@@arrownoir There's anime canon and there's manga canon. The manga is directly overseen by Akira Toriyama so one could argue it's "more" canon.
@michaelthatoker7125
@michaelthatoker7125 Жыл бұрын
@@Alphine172And the anime is more mainstream and more watched and still overseen by Toyama so you could argue that makes it more cannon
@Saimeren
@Saimeren Жыл бұрын
I mean, wouldn't this list just be earliest to latest? Obviously the ones earlier on in the franchise when the power scaling was minimal wouldn't hold a candle to the ones that can battle beings that can break reality like the ones they release today.
@thegamingklown922
@thegamingklown922 2 жыл бұрын
Cell Max is the strongest one now literally was almost unbeatable but he was released early bc of plot armour Gohan had
@dylanbanocy7729
@dylanbanocy7729 Жыл бұрын
No he's not because he's not perfect
@ligeiasiren4290
@ligeiasiren4290 Жыл бұрын
He was mid at best. Pan could've take him out with ease.
@caurd
@caurd Жыл бұрын
Then Cell Max is the one who has plot armor
@Fazbearingtonthe3rd
@Fazbearingtonthe3rd Жыл бұрын
​@@ligeiasiren4290ok
@ArcherR135
@ArcherR135 Жыл бұрын
Cell Max is the strongest by a landslide. OG Cell has the most potential. If Cell had bothered to actually train, then just think about whose DNA he has. Frieza, Goku, Vegeta. Even ignoring Goku and Vegeta, Frieza gained godlike powers in 4 months of training, and then could stomp UI Goku and UE Vegeta after training more. And Cell can use all of their powers and potential together. Just imagine how strong he could become if Cell were ever revived in Super. Scary thought
@RealComixx
@RealComixx Жыл бұрын
We need some sort of GT bs where Cell and Cell Max fuse
@ligeiasiren4290
@ligeiasiren4290 Жыл бұрын
All Cells are mid, that's facts. Seventeen clears.
@RealComixx
@RealComixx Жыл бұрын
@@ligeiasiren4290 most cap statement ever made. And 17 isn’t that strong
@1die204
@1die204 Жыл бұрын
I was bothered by a lot of characters who we never really saw train suddenly be keeping up in the ToP. How did master roshi reach that level? Don't get me wrong...I love the clip of him with his Kamehameha.
@ligeiasiren4290
@ligeiasiren4290 Жыл бұрын
Where you also bothered when Vegeta, the king of off-screen power ups, got all his magical upgrades too? because he is the one character that *consistently* got asspull powerups every season, and y'all ate that up everytime. If Vegeta can get wrecked by Zarbon, and then be miles above Frieza THE NEXT SEASON (by the power of full off-screen training), then you should be ok with Roshi learning U.I. in the manga, lol.
@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI
@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI Жыл бұрын
​​@@ligeiasiren4290 Vegeta was never stronger then Frieza the fuck are you talking about.. what ass pull Power up did Vegeta get?? Name me a episode where Vegeta was actually on par with Frieza?? There isn't one... He also struggled with the Ginyu Force he needed Gohan and Krillins help too take them on... You made all that shit up smh..
@Dc-kk9bd
@Dc-kk9bd Жыл бұрын
​@@ligeiasiren4290i don't think you understand dbz. Noone trains harder than Vegeta. Roshi never really trained. He didn't even bother fighting after meeting Raditz. He didn't even train. Vegeta trained non stop to beat goku
@milowolfface9392
@milowolfface9392 Жыл бұрын
he wasnt anywhere near as strong as them. Did you not watch the show? His whole thing was that he was there to deal with the fighters who couldnt be beaten with raw power. He gets fucked up by people around ss2 level.
@soundrogue4472
@soundrogue4472 Жыл бұрын
UI Roshi makes sense
@King-Explosion-Master
@King-Explosion-Master 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s go the return
@mattakudesu
@mattakudesu Жыл бұрын
My only logical reasoning as to why 17 could scale to SSB Goku is that he found a way to harness his unlimited energy supply and compress it into a more potent output, similar to how SSB Goku refines his chi control. That's my head canon anyway.
@milowolfface9392
@milowolfface9392 Жыл бұрын
seeing how good he is at using engery I would agree. Also 10 years people. Do we really need to see him do push ups
@PikachuGamerSMT
@PikachuGamerSMT Жыл бұрын
Which proves GT’s verse is superior to Super’s as an Android living on a farm is somehow SSJBlue level (without God Ki as well) so yeah
@idcblue1527
@idcblue1527 Жыл бұрын
@@PikachuGamerSMTbros acting like super 17 is a good written character💀
@heroe1486
@heroe1486 Жыл бұрын
There are no explanations man, it's probably not a decision of Toriyama to write 17 like that, it's just super BS , you gotta scale side characters if you want to make them relevant for the new audience
@tanyguch_kun1330
@tanyguch_kun1330 9 ай бұрын
current 17 is just behind ssb, not really as strong as ssb
@asherkapalu3347
@asherkapalu3347 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for your video next year
@Izadirad1995
@Izadirad1995 Жыл бұрын
What do you think of cyborg Tao? Did magenta and gero make him?
@Franco7._.69
@Franco7._.69 2 жыл бұрын
Moodzi your back bro! 😎🤙
@jamesang7080
@jamesang7080 2 жыл бұрын
she now canon 21
@markansu6137
@markansu6137 4 ай бұрын
2024 i'm mad late.
@noodletornado309
@noodletornado309 3 ай бұрын
How so? Where is she cannon cause no game is cannon
@crimsonking4151
@crimsonking4151 Жыл бұрын
The entire androids saga is just Terminator 2 Judgment Day. Goku’s return from yardrat was published a week after the film’s release. Trunks is just dragon ball’s John Connor.
@jakelambert4693
@jakelambert4693 Жыл бұрын
Android 21 is in 3 games and is shown in base form on the screen in dbs super hero
@tkdpharmboy
@tkdpharmboy Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the discussion about the wonky timelines and how the movies shared spoilers. I saw everything way out of order. Thanks for that trivia!
@StareachValcin
@StareachValcin 2 жыл бұрын
If I am being honest, I don't think Android 18 ever surpassed Cell at his strongest. There's just no real evidence, especially since she's never really been in fights between her tournament fight with Goten and Trunks, and her fights in the tournament of power. Her fight with Beerus really isn't a fight. Even her fighting alongside 17 demonstrates more of their teamwork rather than their individual strength. 17 is clearly stronger than 18 by a decent amount. 18 is even shown working well with Krillin, despite being stronger than him. Aside from that, I think this list might be accurate. Although, I do think that super android 13 might be stronger than android 16.
@drunkdrag0n
@drunkdrag0n Жыл бұрын
Agreed. 18 was probably somewhat stronger than Semi-perfect Cell, but not close to perfect by a fair margin by the time of the ToP. The only time we see her train is in the Buu saga before the tournament (that kick-starts the entire Buu saga) and learning of the tournament of power and realising she and Krillin would be picked, hence their need to train. 17 on the other hand has been constantly active since acquiring the job of a park ranger, thus his body is accumulated to frequent changes and responses giving him far more "passive" training than 18 has (flying, using Ki, keeping the animals safe etc.)
@justinlynch3
@justinlynch3 Жыл бұрын
@@drunkdrag0n It probably depends on which media you go by though. I only watched Super once, but didn't 18 divert Goku Blue's Kamehameha when she seen Krillin struggling in his sparring match with Goku. Though Super is all over the place, hell SSJ Trunks when raged out became stronger than Blue Goku & Vegeta in the anime. However there is a scene in the Buu arc (though I don't know if it's filler or not) that does show Krillin and 18 sparring, indicating that while she may not spend waking minute training like Goku and Vegeta, she and Krillin could of been doing some light sparring off sceen, which could of boosted their power over time. So it's not impossible 18 grew in power like 17 did.
@ritster21
@ritster21 Жыл бұрын
@@justinlynch3Exactly. If 17 got so strong just from fighting poachers, 18 can do the same fighting Krillin.
@ilovedogs2642
@ilovedogs2642 Жыл бұрын
​@@justinlynch3 krillin had to retrain for the top because he hadn't been training or fighting in a long time, so him training with 18 can't be true
@supesisfodder7427
@supesisfodder7427 Жыл бұрын
@@drunkdrag0nmoron
@abdullahsiddiqui7168
@abdullahsiddiqui7168 2 жыл бұрын
Missed you, so glad to see you back!
@flazone4486
@flazone4486 2 жыл бұрын
This is my version of all androids power levels of what we saw in all the series, movies and dbheroes as well : Dr Kochin : 8 Major Metallitron : 46 Pirate Robot : 50 Android 8 (Hatchan) : 80 Commander Black : 100 Tao Pai Pai Android : 210 Bio Men : 1000 Bio Warriors : 2500 Misokatsun : 4300 Kishime : 7000 Ebifurya : 7500 Cacao : 13 000 Dr Wheelo : 39 000 Android 73 Base : 3 000 000 Cyclopian Guards : 5 000 000 Android 20 (Dr Gero) : 40 000 000 Koitsukai : 46 500 000 Panchia : 46 500 000 Borareta : 46 500 000 Paparoni : 46 500 000 Viara : 48 000 000 Android 19 : 50 000 000 Narirama : 57 000 000 Nigrisshi : 60 000 000 Android 20 (Dr Gero) Absorbing energy : 100 000 000 Mecha Frieza : 130 000 000 Android 19 Absorbing energy : 150 000 000 Cell 1st form : 150 000 000 Future Android 18 : 190 000 000 Future Android 17 : 200 000 000 The 2 fighting together : 390 000 000 Android 14 : 220 000 000 Android 15 : 260 000 000 The 2 fighting together : 480 000 000 Metal Cooler Base : 250 000 000 Android 18 : 275 000 000 Cell 1st form absorbing 15 000 people : 290 000 000 Android 17 : 300 000 000 Android 13 : 305 000 000 Cell 1st form absorbing 500 000 people : 400 000 000 Android 16 : 405 000 000 Metal Cooler Core : 450 000 000 Android 18 moro saga : 500 000 000 Metal Cooler full power : 500 000 000 Android 17 Hell Fighter : 520 000 000 Super Android 13 : 785 000 000 Cell imperfect (2d form) : 800 000 000 Cell perfect : 1 025 000 000 Android 17 GT : 2 000 000 000 Hatchiyak : 2 000 000 000 Cell juniors : 2 500 000 000 Super Hatchiyak : 3 000 000 000 Cell Perfect full power : 4 500 000 000 Cell Super Perfect : 8 000 000 000 Android 73 Piccolo power absorbed : 15 000 000 000 Android 21 Base : 21 000 000 000 Super Android 17 : 980 000 000 000 Super Android 17 absorbing energy : 1 080 000 000 000 Koicherator : 1 500 000 000 000 Android 17 moro saga : 1 700 000 000 000 Super Android 17 absorbing the Kamehameha : 2 600 000 000 000 Android 73 Gohan power absorbed : 5 000 000 000 000 Majin Android 21 Full Power : 5 500 000 000 000 Aniraza : 2 000 000 000 000 000 Golden Metal Cooler : 12 000 000 000 000 000 000
@jb-fl7le
@jb-fl7le 2 жыл бұрын
damn dude you went thru all that work just for this?? where the hell did you gather all this info from?
@flazone4486
@flazone4486 2 жыл бұрын
@@jb-fl7le Yeah bro i watch a lot of power levels videos in the last years and i take a lot of information all this years to make this android power level list, and it's as well the logic watching all the dragon ball series you can make your power level list just by watching the fights and the transformations.
@kwalityhunter
@kwalityhunter Жыл бұрын
Arale : ♾️
@hussmod
@hussmod 2 жыл бұрын
He is back!
@rowan2445
@rowan2445 Жыл бұрын
There's no way 73 is weaker than 17 and 18. 73 swapped hands with gohan who was equal to Kefla prior and then trained to prep for morro afterward. Even kale dominated blue level fighters like golden frieza so Kefla would be far beyond blue level, enough so that jiren and goku had to stop their fight because they saw Kefla as a threat. Manga 17 does not compare to gohan in any way. Ssj3 goku was enough to handle 17 prior to the tournament. Manga gohan is even stated to be the strongest fighter on the planet since goku and vegeta are gone.
@kungfumantis97
@kungfumantis97 Жыл бұрын
Android 13: *Howdy there, I'm android 13, look at my trucker hat*
@cya7h
@cya7h 2 жыл бұрын
Cell max gammas and perfect cell all take up like the first 5 places
@S_Scaling
@S_Scaling 9 ай бұрын
You can’t say you don’t care if you a power scaler
@talonskye5577
@talonskye5577 Жыл бұрын
“Hopefully he isn’t a brainless meathead that appears in the last 15mins of the movie.” Yikes, sorry to say, but you obviously know by now, that you nailed it, smh.
@cgeorge666
@cgeorge666 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video, and clicked the like button simply because you asked nicely at the end. That technique does work for some of us!
@binarystar300
@binarystar300 Жыл бұрын
No way that OG 73 is behind 18! OG 73's powers were enough for Moro to beat Perfect Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta and Ultra Instinct Omen Goku at the same time!! 18 couldn't even hang with the likes of Toppo (pre-GoD form).
@JoeyMulvaney
@JoeyMulvaney 8 ай бұрын
"you are a very plucky duck" -android 16
@PwnMaestro49
@PwnMaestro49 Жыл бұрын
Lol "hopefully he isn't a brainless meathead just in THE LAST 15 MINS"
@scottpreik8755
@scottpreik8755 3 ай бұрын
OMG A KZbinR THAT GETS IT!!! I cant not stand when people beg for likes and subs or whatever at the start of the video, like why would I like the video before I've even watched it
@B.D._Voro
@B.D._Voro 2 жыл бұрын
Did Moodzi use my rankings and reasonings though?
@pavelvasilev384
@pavelvasilev384 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know What's your rankings
@bigounce8549
@bigounce8549 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes a new video, cant wait for a new one next year 🤞
@cherub3624
@cherub3624 Жыл бұрын
I mean 14 and 15 should be WAY stronger than 19 or 20. Piccolo stomped 20 and he really shouldn't have been as strong as base Goku at the time, but 14 and 15 put up decent competition vs ssj Vegeta and Trunks.
@fishpop
@fishpop Жыл бұрын
4:11 Android 19 ducking like that was oddly adorable.
@SABaruj
@SABaruj Жыл бұрын
To me, cell is perfect, it has the highest potential
@ngud_gaming267
@ngud_gaming267 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who understands how to remind you to like the video at the end. I’ve never got why people say it at the star cause how am I supposed to like something I haven’t even watched yet
@ThePoolo12
@ThePoolo12 6 ай бұрын
Watching on 2024
@Jay_The_Sannin
@Jay_The_Sannin Жыл бұрын
Finally 18’s power is recognized!, only behind 17, the gammas and cell max which is just fine, while her getting stronger make sense it doesn’t actually matter since she has the feats to prove it
@supesisfodder7427
@supesisfodder7427 Жыл бұрын
Nope 21 is weaker
@braddl9442
@braddl9442 Жыл бұрын
I think her power level was just from the fact that over time she will get stronger from the limitless energy generator even without training like a passive exp bonus. While her brother actually took the time to train and learn how to use the energy better.
@skoley1993
@skoley1993 Жыл бұрын
22:20 Wow that aged poorly
@Spaghettineck
@Spaghettineck Жыл бұрын
Cool list. I’ve never seen this topic explored
@metal42
@metal42 2 жыл бұрын
Why is 21 above DBS 17? She's only stronger than Post U6/Pre Black Arc Characters
@MisterRorschach90
@MisterRorschach90 8 ай бұрын
I really hope that in the future of dragon ball an alternate universe or timeline version of goku, vegeta, or gohan is turned into an android and becomes a villain. Imagine an android vegeta with super 17 like abilities stacked on top of his ultra ego form. Or goku with infinite energy and ultra instinct. They both have instant transmission, and being part machine they would be able to pinpoint exactly where they wanted to teleport. Goku could literally stack kaioken over and over because of infinite energy.
@justicebaca1491
@justicebaca1491 Жыл бұрын
Could super 13 absorb parts of 16? If so wouldn't it make him on par with semi perfect cell?
@j253d
@j253d Жыл бұрын
I love these in-depth videos about dragon Ball z I grew up as a kid watching the Funimation lol
@tails512
@tails512 Жыл бұрын
Android 17’s strength makes perfect sense to me. In the Android saga with presumably no training he was far stronger than Frieza. Characters like Goku and Piccolo had to train their entire lives to that point to reach the level of strength 17 had naturally with no work. When Frieza finally trained he reached Super Saiyan Blue levels. If 17 also trained, it’s only logical he would also become that powerful. And of course since he’s a cyborg not a true android he could get stronger. As a side note, if Cell had the chance to train I wouldn’t be surprised if he could reach Jiren levels of power.
@coreymccurty44
@coreymccurty44 Жыл бұрын
Just watched this video on 6/26/23 and I am looking forward to seeing more of your content.💯👍
@spacemanspiff6332
@spacemanspiff6332 Жыл бұрын
I like to think 19 and 20 could easily become the strongest if they absorbed enough energy. Otherwise, why would Gero turn himself into a weak android?
@MatthewJamesKalasky
@MatthewJamesKalasky Жыл бұрын
I think it was explained somewhere that he wasn't able to control the perpetual energy android form all that well, or something.
@roxannecardwell3240
@roxannecardwell3240 Жыл бұрын
The way when that Android just hunched down to dodge the attacks 💀 4:11
@ken-lv4qf
@ken-lv4qf 2 жыл бұрын
Second. It has been a week hasn't it.........
@genesisnemesis8850
@genesisnemesis8850 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad U drop a video
@KingDues
@KingDues Жыл бұрын
First time to ur video and it sucks cuz this was a year ago but u got another subscriber 🙏🏽💪🏼
@moodzi1322
@moodzi1322 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Make sure to watch my other ranking videos they got much better 🙏🏼
@KingDues
@KingDues Жыл бұрын
@moodzi1322 oh damn u actually said something respect. Yeah I was watching a video on Chuck earlier about movie villans and when u mentioned about how the movie villains are stronger with every next one but there's many points where it shows how that not true . But great video video . Def gonna look at the newer ones
@brucecook502
@brucecook502 Жыл бұрын
I agreed with the entire order you gave other than Android 16 being more powerful than super 13. My opinion is that it is a big "we couldnt know" only for the simple fact that Android 16 never fought anyone other than cells first form oh, so I don't know how we could begin to gauge his power against anyone in order to have an idea of where he stands against super Android 13. Super Android 13 was just a straight Brute when he was beating around regular Super Saiyan 1 Goku and Vegeta and he was so powerful that their attacks weren't even as effective as mosquito bites against him, so we have no idea how powerful Goku became after absorbing that Spirit Bomb when he defeated Super Android 13, but we do have a good idea of how to gauge Android 16s power, so I would think they were somewhere near the same level but I cannot justify saying whether or not the one is more powerful than the other because of the simple fact we didn't get to see any of the Z Fighters match Super Android 13 or even give him a hard time. Other than that, I think you were pretty spot-on with the order of power levels of the Androids, I think your reasoning was pretty sound.
@SuperJoao52
@SuperJoao52 Жыл бұрын
11:20 not a baseball cap, a trucker hat! 😂 "Tfs refference "
@SumOfMan
@SumOfMan Жыл бұрын
Cellmax: A brain dead monster only showing up in the last 15 minutes of the movie 😂
@conorkr8584
@conorkr8584 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched you since 2018 and I missed the theme tune SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much
@thedoctor3528
@thedoctor3528 2 жыл бұрын
I firsr subbed to you in late 2016 or early 2017, at least watched most of your videos 2 times and maybe a 3rd time soon
@Zaxzis36
@Zaxzis36 6 ай бұрын
While I’ve watched a couple of your shorts and pieces of your videos I hadn’t subscribed until this one. That’s because you’re the first person I’ve seen that waited until the end of the video to ask for a like or sub. And I actually watched all the way to the end. I’ll definitely be checking more of your content out
@moodzi1322
@moodzi1322 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I’m a viewer like everyone else on KZbin, and I hate when videos start with the creator begging for likes. This is why I never accepted promoting paid advertisements on my videos. I respect my viewers time, because I know they can be literally doing anything else.
@Tocwatson
@Tocwatson 2 жыл бұрын
Still got the best intro glad ur back
@spacemanspiff6332
@spacemanspiff6332 Жыл бұрын
22:16 epic foreshadowing.
@hanakoisbestgirl4752
@hanakoisbestgirl4752 Жыл бұрын
"Hopefully he isnt a brainless meathead that appears in the last 15 minutes of the movie" cant tell if you knew already or just predicted it. Its very sadge
@The_Big_Jay
@The_Big_Jay Жыл бұрын
I love how little room the movies have to exist. From the start of Z, Goku is: Dead, Fighting Vegeta, In the Hospital, Travelling to Namek, Fighting on Namek, Stuck on Yardrat, and finally Returning to Earth. From the start of the series to the beginning of the Android saga, there is ZERO free time for any movies to happen.
@spiritzion
@spiritzion Жыл бұрын
good job for using tfs footage, appreciated
@HytoGuitarstyle
@HytoGuitarstyle 2 жыл бұрын
missed you homie~
@BirDLaw-dh1di
@BirDLaw-dh1di 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and glad to see you back.
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