Mooer GE250 vs Boss ME80 vs Zoom G5n Multi Effects Shootout

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[@neckcheese1356]

I have an ME-80 and I love it, lots of great amp sounds and effects. The one thing I don't like about it is the distortion pedal section. I just cannot dial in a good metal tone with any of them no matter how hard I try. I can however dial in great sounds by using the fuzz or overdrives in that section.

[@mtabet02]

Get the mooer it will solve that problem immediately

[@MrRFasters]

Look at the Boss ME80 setting videos on Satriani, Petrucci, Metallica, Moore etc. There must be something you like? What do you miss in your sound? Im a ME80 player, pretty happy to know how to set them up properly. Maybe I can help.

[@neckcheese1356]

@@MrRFasters Thanks, I'll check it out. I can get a decent distorted tone if I use one of the overdrives along with the metal preamp. However, I cannot find a satisfactory metal tone using any of the other distortion pedals in the OD/DS section. I do love it otherwise, but would be willing to try messing with it some more if you have any tips.

[@MrRFasters]

@@neckcheese1356 Hi. First: did you check out the extensive Metal sounds from the KZbin channel of Direct Recording Guitar? High quality vids, not only showing settings for Eric Johnson, Slash. Petrucci, Metallica, Vai, Satriani etc but in those vids you also get quite some hints to setup your own sound. There musg be something good in there for you. Second: preparing your own sound pls add the EQ from the EQ/FX2 block . Ive learned that this EQ is far more flexible than some of the EQ ranges that come with the PRE AMP block. I never got the TWEED and especially the COMBO to sound nice, but with that xtra EQ it is a breeze. This EQ can function as a Mesa like V shape xtra EQ found on many mesas, it can serve as a treble boost, it can be a generic boost and it s a good tone shaper. Invest time in fiddling with it and find out the interactions between guitar tone, pre amp eq, fx2 eq AND your ampeq. Do not forget to add compression and/or the OD/DS block with its tone controls. Doing so you have a massive, massive tone stack available. Third: to help you I need to understand what it is you are looking for. - Need "umpff" ? Try the DRIVE or STACK pre amp on low gain or add from the OVERDRIVE oOD/DS. Go slow on finding the gain sweetspot. - Need thickness? Add a short digital or analog. Some 20 to 50 ms or so on high wet mix levels. - Need Treble. Use the tone stack I mentioned before. Im getting the best result by a( always have the COMP on at 50 levels, use the second EQ the most, cut back on the BASS levels always. More for humbuckers, add MIDs for cutting through the band mix and add TREBLE according your taste, need and guitar pups. Happy tweeking !!!

[@flyingguitarist4830]

@@neckcheese1356 there's a hidden features to get a decent dirt tone, put a headphone jack on to activate the amp simulator

[@lupang335]

Zoom G3X user here, and man the Mooer floor units are sounding fantastic in every demo including this one! I thing the G5n is incredible too, but my concern since trying one out myself has been the placement of the switches. As for the Boss, I always felt there was something lacking in the sound (for me, don't crucify me!). Now if only the Mooers didn't cost twice as much as the G5n in my country, I would definitely pick one up. Awesome review, man.

[@erickindel3730]

Before you buy a mooer product try 3rd party IR's first i had a G3X using the diezel preamp and sounded killer with ola's cab impulse

[@StratsRUs]

I use a Helix now.But the Boss ME80 is given a harsh review.I used to play it through the Return of an amp's loop ( Marshall DSL 20 or Boss Katana 100 Mkii ) and it was great.I liked using everything that was visible from the design itself with no submenus.Also a Vox Tonelab EX in the same way and that was excellent too. It was advisable by some to also engage the cab SIM of the ME80 at all times also. I have a Zoom G5n also but that is too finicky and wastes space when utilising an amp and cab.And it is too fizzy. I do not like Orange Cabs and amps though.

[@빵엔안갈래]

good♥~~!!

[@StreamSlip1]

Okay ... So not sure who will see this in 2023 but I've owned all 3. Boss me - 80 hands down best board to play LIVE with. So easy and so awesome esp for solo acoustic gigs . Recording? - Zoom g3xn for sure direct DAW plug in sounds better and way more awesome effects and options.

[@algrundau9441]

I have seen it and thanks for posting. Right now I have a chance to grab either a Line 6 POD HD 500X, a Zoom G3XN or a Boss ME-80....all on sale. Good deals on all of them (maybe liquidating before the April NAMM show???)....anyway, I can't decide. The ME--80 has a very appealing interface...It's just does it cut it sound wise? Is it obsolete already?

[@elenrai1400]

Which one was your fav?

[@kaskas55]

There’s a lot of great ME-80 videos here in KZbin. For live gigs, i’ll go with the Boss.

[@mskima001]

Tone-wise, For me Zoom sounds close to a real gear setup and that too when connected to an actual amp (that's how real guitarists play), not directly to a computer.

[@HeartcoreMitRA]

BOSS sounds like something from 90's with muddy and dull sound with no character at all, much like zoom505. Mooer is clearly the best. The main criteria - if you can hear the "air" from the speaker, the sound frequency change from different picking dynamics, stuff like this. Got myself Ampero One as a mobile unit and i have to say it's pretty solid against my POD HD500X, more into BIAS and Axe direction.

[@jerrydaniel1505]

Ok. This is awesome, well done and I'm glad it's in English. It's obvious d Moore ge250 is better...for honesty sake..Boss Me 80 is vintage and clean and clear while the Zoom g5n is warm and got a lot of homey sound... kinda sound like how zoom multi-effect pedals sound, they all nice tho... Moore ge 250 won that's the software and all but I do like some originality in my sound and the Boss Me 80 gives just that. Well done once again.

[@kamarienedwards1757]

@@in5364 the ge250 is more versatile for all settings that’s why people buy them

[@clouds5]

Here's the big thing imho: You can get very good sounds out of all of these. But you have to spend some time and tune. The AC30 on the Zoom for example are just not right for me for example. But others like the Bogner can sound fantastic (not in this video though :D) And all these units have pretty weak IR/cab sims. If you play them through an amp or a quality cab sim/IR you get super good tones.

[@alvaroantonioocampogrey2823]

Nice review! you should add a Pod Go (or HX Stomp) to the comparison considering it's near the price and it has the famous Helix sounds.

[@JosephVarghese-g4d]

Pod Go is best

[@photronic]

GREAT review. Nice playing which showed all I needed to know.

[@hellonblades]

Excellent comparison. Thanks for sharing this!

[@maldpotato497]

Was planning to buy one of these multifx. The thing I would love about the ME80 is how easy it would be to modify the settings of your tone since it is like a manual pedalboard set up; same thing with the Zoom G5n but somehow I'm preferring the tones of the ME80. But the Mooer GE250 just blows all of them away due to how new the product is. The only problem I see with the GE250 is the learning curve in setting up your tones. Does the GE250 also have a feature like the Boss and Zoom to be in manual pedalboard mode or is it like a bank/patch system that you have to make sure your tones are set before you play live and you can't change them on the fly?

[@hruaizelakisuke]

Did you figure it out? I have g3x and i love the stomp box type pedal.. so i wonder if i could do the same on ge250

[@maldpotato497]

@@hruaizelakisuke due to more research, I ended up with a Vox Tonelab SE.

[@IntheDAW]

The boss sounds horrible on almost everything very muddy and dull. The zoom is alright and the mooer does get some really nice clean tones. I would love to hear a hotone ampero added in this comparison and maybe a pod go.

[@Pulse2AM]

I think the Boss, maybe because I've heard Boss pedal sounds for so many years on records.

[@chrisramo3895]

I find using the boss ME-80 with a crappy sounding amp sounds like crap too. Using decent guitar amp will give you a decent sound as well.

[@Hagchtogow]

Seriously, the Boss is totally outdated and the sound is reminiscent of the multi of the 90s ! And this is not the only demo that proves it. Thanks for the job.

[@MrRFasters]

Total utterly nonsense. The BOSS was designed to be a front-of-the-amp pedal, with a simple CAB SIM as option. The BOSS ME80 was actually the first BOSS pedal with two DSPs, like the GE250 has today. Tech is rather the same ... I run the AMP SIM through a decent true amp (Mesa and Fender) and the BOSS pedal sounds - simply - like the BOSS it is. As any pedal you have to learn how to tweak it.

[@sinisamarin9801]

@@MrRFasters agree

[@accentontheoff]

If I may ask, in what way do guitar pedals get outdated.

[@Hagchtogow]

@@accentontheoff no prob' fox 😊... Just the natural technical evolution of the Multoprocessors DSP. Every 5-10 year old a huge step forward is done and it gets along, thankfully for us !

[@accentontheoff]

@@Hagchtogow Yes I get the perspective. Thanks.

[@jueljameslimbo1759]

I want Boss Me80 however the updates of its effects Zoom g5n compels me. Anyhelp here?

[@insomniac5904]

I think the zoom tops every aspect exept the bogner, personally the bogner in the zoom sounded too boxy wich is sad because im an fan of Monte Money and its his main amp, but the boogie will do it too.

[@clouds5]

It just needs the right settings. I have a g3xn and the bogner sounds great, you just have to open up the mids/highs a bit and set the gain right.

[@ghostoforion1745]

great to see u again kenneth

[@gloriapicture]

I saw him at the shop at the same day that i got my ge250 👉🏻 the most amps available 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 terima kasih Kenneth!

[@Gibson1976uk]

ME-80 tip, need a good amp and switch those amp sims off

[@paolopablo9800]

does all multi have trail functions?

[@EthanBurchell]

The Mooer had the best tones, but the Boss is easier to set and use as a stand alone unit! The Zoom was way too boomy and bassy, I'd be afraid of it getting lost in the mix if you played it anywhere near a bass during a set!

[@無名-n7g3g]

Thank you for the video

[@terencehealy5110]

Boss boss was best I think the zoom had a cold 🙂 great comparison tho just need to add with that valve amp your rocking you don't need anything els it's yummy 😋

[@goldenultra]

Boss sounded plastic full stop. Many of these reviews says it outdated, but these are old amps. Zoom seems to be better, though Mooer was better with the Boogie amp and maybe 1 more but that is it. But I have gone for the vox g2 because they make the amps and invented the wah wah. Getting it today.. Obviously the presets have copyright issues, but somebody has made a list of devices emulated for example the compressor used is a MXR Red etc. It may not look as good as the boss me 50, but I am sure it will be authentic. I still have my magic stomp and m audio black box reloaded and they still sound pretty imo. So I trust my instincts, anyway the vox can fit in my pedal board so I get the best of both worlds.

[@musicmind837]

1. Ge250 2. Zoom g3x 3. Boss me 80

[@ezequiellopes8292]

G5n***

[@TheVai420]

Hi can u tell me what is the best? TQVM

[@samueljosehidalgomoron9828]

boss me 80 rules

[@jorgemm1000]

Everything is stock here, thats tge reason thus is not a video we can take a desicion on !!

[@charleschad1004]

Zoom 5gn more organic

[@64north20west]

These are close. Zoom bests the Boss more often than not, and Mooer seems to have an overall advantage. But it's not that much of a difference. You can just play with EQ to make up some ground. Maybe I'm biased because I love my ME80 Excellent demonstration.

[@MusicBlissMalaysiaTV]

Trust me, I tried my very best to EQ them to sound as close as possible....on some amp models it was rather difficult.

[@64north20west]

@@MusicBlissMalaysiaTV Based on the quality of the comparisons in this video, I bet you did. Boss seems to lag in the amp department, but they tend to have great effects. It is good to see how it holds up against these newer units in this shootout. I think Mooer is the one to buy in this lot. Thanks again for a great video & great playing.

[@MrRFasters]

Hi. To be 4eally flexible you need the second EQ on the extra FX block. With the amp EQ params I can t get the AC30 or Bassman amp models to flourish, but adding the second EQ, as if it s in the front of the amp: it makes all the different and let you dial in any tone you look for. A bit like having the V shaped xtra 5 band EQ on quit a few Mesa amps. Makes you can create all the sounds you want. If you have an xtra BOSS EQ pedal lying around, put it in front of your ME80 and your sound options are rather limitless. Im thinking on changing it for the GE300, but I can t get my head to decide: Im sort of afraid I will go back to the ME80 and make an ass of myself to my girl ... ;-)

[@akungoogl3158]

Master please review of powersupply pedal, thanks. 🙂

[@lupo10]

Awesome, literally trying to work out which one to order. Don’t know why I think 5 days ago is better, probably because you have the latest patches. Hopeful for a video that’ll point me in a direction 👍🙏 I’ll report back...

[@lupo10]

Ok, so Boss is out. Doesn’t sound as good through KZbin as the others. Some of the tones I preferred from the zoom and others the Mooer. Looks and the wife factor goes to the Mooer. The footswitch functionality goes to the Zoom though. The looper and drums functionality is what I need to know. I’ll check out the other videos you mentioned and see if you cover it... if you read these comments please feel free to give me your opinion 😉

[@janhoracek2889]

@@lupo10 Hi, could you please tell me which one did you buy and if you are satisfied with it? I'm choosing between those two too, so I would be glad if you would tell me some experiences :)

[@lupo10]

@@janhoracek2889 hi mate, I went for a Zoom G3Xn and I’m very happy with it. I use it after compressor, overdrive, distortion and tremolo pedal and use it to turn mono to stereo into the front end of both my amps. It has true bypass when in tuner mode so unless I’m using it it stays in tuner mode so it stays an analog signal into the amp. I tend to use it mostly for modulation effects but for certain songs I’ll also use it for a particular overdrive sound too. Comparing my TS808 against the equivalent in the Zoom it’s remarkably similar, same with my Boss DS2, the Zoom models that pedal well too. The other overdrive effects in the zoom are new to me but if the other pedals are anything to go by I don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t be close to the analog pedal too. For the money, I don’t think you could go better 👍

[@janhoracek2889]

@@lupo10 Thank you for your reply, finally, I opted for Zoom G5n and I can't wait to try it 😃

[@lupo10]

@@janhoracek2889 nice! I wish I’d gone for the G5, the extra footswitch would come in handy.

[@nicolasalexandre7605]

boss tomou uma surra das 2, achei a mooer melhor, mas a zoom ta incrivel também, slc

[@davidbuzzin426]

👍🇺🇲❤BOSS

[@cpamiseso]

Salam Kenneth. Which do you think I should get if I gig in small venue, record independently, and not doing cover at all (mostly self-composed songs; so no need to chase certain guitarist's tone style)?

[@goldenultra]

I think a compressor pedal is a good start and amp. Try it out, then slowly build and do research. The boss m 50 is rushed nowhere near as good as their pedals more like an intro to their pedals, and that is what boss wants.

[@cpamiseso]

@@goldenultra thanks man. should I only limited to choose between the three multifx, which one do you think I should get?

[@goldenultra]

@@cpamiseso I bought the vox one, it is a tiny pedal but not bad, normally the vox wah wah costs over 50, and they make a few of the amps they emulate. I only have tried twice, but download the presets from the vox Facebook page. But wait for Amazon Prime days they do good deals for pedals. Difficult to find your tone, do not rush to buy anything, it can also be about finding yourself. You have to decide what to buy....

[@TJISLA]

La zoom g5

[@aliffdzulhailie4599]

Boss all the way

[@merweo348]

Had boss and zoom, threw them out of the window when I turn on the mooer g150.

[@cpamiseso]

Wow, really? Why is that? But Zoom is better in term of fx block positioning? Not afixed like Boss and Mooer

[@merweo348]

@@cpamiseso i dont really care about blocks and engineering shit, im all about turn on device and feel the sound without hassle... I would choose MOOER all day long.

[@cpamiseso]

@@merweo348 so that's your reason. In your opinion, how do you find it compared to real amp and pedals, the Mooer? I've been thinking switching to Mooer but still considering.

[@erickindel3730]

I got a mooer ge150 and it has the same sound engine as the ge250 only with less buttons and no cloud tone sharing capability. I recently picked up a Boss gt-1 and zoom g1 four the only advantage of the mooer ge150 is the 3rd party IR capability but once using the same IR I could say that zoom has the best preamps and boss has the best effects

[@PierceTravels]

I am bias toward boss me 80 cuz i couldn't find the g5n or mooer so me 80 is better

[@PierceTravels]

- mooer is clearly the best

[@krishnashovapradhan4444]

@@PierceTravels cause you can't afford

[@ana-gh5bh]

G5n hrs.

[@MrKansuke90]

Just get the NUX MG 30..better thn all of this.. 😂😅

[@prefacciprian7728]

Aristides wins...

[@Tuanguitarist]

Boss me 80 Suck and the worst not Good to buy.

[@flyingguitarist4830]

Before I thought it was suck, but when I discovered the Cab Simulator it was sound fantastic

[@krishnashovapradhan4444]

Cause you can't afford

[@angel_7544]

Que preset usas que todos suenan horrible

[@peru12532]

1.-boss me 80 2.-moeer 3.-zoom

[@clickador]

are u crazy kk

[@mickdebergerac1143]

Speaking from personal experience the Mooer is terrible. REALLY terrible.

[@ChrisMusickx]

Why is it terrible in your opinion? I'm thinking about buying the ge 250, especially for the tone/amp capture feature it has.

[@mickdebergerac1143]

@@ChrisMusickx I am 60 at my next birthday, that may suggest that I am set in my ways.... However I am a total gear idiot, of all the pedal boards, profilers and actual amps and pedals, I found the Mooer to be very unappealing. The sounds were not good ... the functionality was ... not good. There is so much better gear for the same or less money

[@d4rksoci3ty]

@@mickdebergerac1143 what multi fx pedal would you suggest? You sound wise

[@mickdebergerac1143]

@@d4rksoci3ty Hello there, I'm not wise by any stretch of the imagination, but thank you. A very good question and a few hundred examples/answers!!! At the moment I have stopped live playing and concentrated on a home studio. Currently I use a Kemper for many of my recorded sounds, clean guitar and bass guitar being the main usage. Some of the profiles for heavy stuff are really good. On the flip side I use a Marshall DSL 20 with a 2 X12 cab miked with a SM57 and SM58 panned left /right. Into that I have a Boss OD 1, Boss GE7 and a Zoom 509 for some modulation effects. I also have a Orange Dark Terror that is connected to my Captor X using the same pedals. I find most of the "new" multi fx to be over rated, over stated and naff to be honest, I buy them to try them, but soon realise they don't deliver what they promise. There is a very good reason why professional musicians aren't playing live with many of these new fangled toys. Get to basics and find your own way. I used to use a Korg A4 multi board for a good number of years and in todays market I bet that would stand up to all these newbies. It was easy to create very useable and pleasing tones. I hope this helps. Enjoy every day as if it was your last. You never know when your time is up!

[@d4rksoci3ty]

@@mickdebergerac1143 cool a home studio is the dream. I’ll check out the gear you mentioned and thanks for responding in such detail. My dad passed a few months ago and I almost gave up music so your words hit me but I’m gonna carry on. take care and good luck with your studio