Moondrop MIAD 01 Review & Comparison

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AndyAudioVault

AndyAudioVault

Күн бұрын

Join me as I dissect the offering of Moondrop first Audio oriented Smartphone.
00:00 Intro
01:19 The CONs
03:10 MIAD 01 As a Smartphone
04:26 Connectivity
05:03 Android Performance
06:56 USB Performance
09:46 Battery Performance
11:18 Bluetooth Performance
11:55 Photos & Videos Performance
15:52 MIAD 01 as a DAP
29:52 Verdict
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- RØDE Wireless Pro
- Monitoring Headphone: Sony MDR7506
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@dariusk.7226
@dariusk.7226 Ай бұрын
Very pleased with the review video, presentation at its best. Moondrop should support you on this in my opinion 😂 Love the informativity, how you compared to other devices and the blind test was very nice touch! Thank you!
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Hey hey, very much apreciated! And my pleasure and thanks!
@GLENNMPHOTOGRAPHY
@GLENNMPHOTOGRAPHY Ай бұрын
Hahaha! That’s me!!! Thanks for having me in yer vid. Honestly, I thought you were using the same dac and just pumped up the volume a bit. The difference, I really cannot tell. I think the innovation of phones are not that much for the past years. What else we can improve? Ahh yes!!! Sound!! I like what moondrop did, they paved the way for better audio in a smartphone. Nothing beats a proper dac/amp but if you are on the go, this makes sense. This is a good review Andy! Thank You!
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
LOL, poor Glenn....hahahaha
@1995tirthankarbala1
@1995tirthankarbala1 Ай бұрын
Sadly it'll never be in mainstream as the shift to ewaste tws
@wahid-lg1kk
@wahid-lg1kk Ай бұрын
​@@1995tirthankarbala1people who value high fidelity will always want wired headphones
@3mar00ss6
@3mar00ss6 20 күн бұрын
also people who value capable products that won't end up in the trash after 2 years of use ​@@wahid-lg1kk
@HKS-le3hi
@HKS-le3hi Ай бұрын
Someone in china has already tear it down. its dual cs43131. like dawn pro
@sumanthparakala2005
@sumanthparakala2005 Ай бұрын
Makes sense , it should have been moonriver but the cost
@lordlopes2424
@lordlopes2424 Ай бұрын
@@sumanthparakala2005 Maybe the Miad 02 can have better specs and the CS43198 from the Moonriver 2
@TheEletronicFunky
@TheEletronicFunky Ай бұрын
are you serious LOL Id rather just buy a pixel 7 and use that exact amp... I have the Moondrop Paras and they need an amp they sound low volume. lets see how they pair up
@tor13128
@tor13128 Ай бұрын
newb here, can someone explain what does it mean it's dual cs43131? is the MIAD 01 good or bad?
@SJ-eu7em
@SJ-eu7em Ай бұрын
@@tor13128 Means it has 2 cs43131 DAC's so for balanced output you use 1 DAC per channel which should improve S/N and maybe resolution, I havent heard the cs43131 tho and people say it is not as good as other older CS DAC's, but it always depends, not sure what OPamps this MIAD01 uses which probably affects the sound more, but as portable player Im pretty sure it is good enough for anyone
@arthurmonay3156
@arthurmonay3156 Ай бұрын
Andy , you certainly deliver the goods. Jam packed info. Your videos are an adventure. You saved me time and money ( saved my sd card). You do great work . Awesome ! Thank You !
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
No worries. And thanks!!
@am_ma
@am_ma Ай бұрын
This is the best review for the Moondrop MIAD 01mobile phone across the KZbin period.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thank You!
@DarenLee
@DarenLee Ай бұрын
Bro despite a long length video, you manage to nail 3 in 1 into a video nicely executed keep it up, first 15 minutes I forgot it’s a audio review and keep thinking it’s a phone review. Nice 3 in 1 video, phone, blind test & audio.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks man. I am always looking to present my contents better. Sometimes it require longer duration to ensure I can convey as much relevant data as possible
@iota560
@iota560 Ай бұрын
@@donglemadnessI doubt I’m the only one, I want a 2 hour breakdown…..
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Ай бұрын
The thing that definitely holds me back is software support/ updates. In the long run this is the most expensive aspect of a smartphone to a company (if properly done) and only the big ones can do it. Given moondrop's standing in this aspect (ie moondrop link app which is a much more basic thing) i can't say the future seems bright for buyers of this unit. This is a HUGE shift from moondrop's product line and i'll wait and see but unless there is a huge investment in software development i wouldn't trust this product very much.
@schoi604
@schoi604 Ай бұрын
Thank you for this elaborate review, I sat through the whole video without pressing any fast forward. Looking forward to another great video!! Best regards
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@RandolphNwaiwu
@RandolphNwaiwu Ай бұрын
As always, a simply amazing review.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks! appreciate that!
@yds1133
@yds1133 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the review. Would be great if its possible to supplement comparison with the top 5 dongles on how it performs in a bit more detail to understand its sound characteristics a bit more
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks, at least for now I can say it is comparable to iBasso DC04Pro really, wide open sound with lots of power and good natural timbre. And would already know how I rated DC04Pro
@fattleopard4805
@fattleopard4805 Ай бұрын
Thank you fellow Malaysian man. Now I can think about buying this to make daily phone in Malaysia
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Sama sama 🙏
@ernest4483
@ernest4483 Ай бұрын
Another great content and review Andy, maybe needed some software updates, can a user still use a dongle like the KA17 even though the PD is 2.0 Miad 01
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks man. Yes, I really don't know if it is PD2.0 or 3.0, I only suspect it is PD2.0 based on the voltage, but really I can run my KA17 even on the weaker Mi9T without any need for external power
@zeissiez
@zeissiez Ай бұрын
Another great review, thanks Andy
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@nmatheis
@nmatheis Ай бұрын
Thanks for an actual review of this product instead of all the negative hot takes I've been seeing in social media from people that haven't even used it 🙏 Can you please post a Some follow-up videos to let us know how Moondrop is handling updates, what has improved, long-term performance, etc.? And also, can you find out from Moondrop how long they intend to support the phone for 1. Android versions and 2. Security updates? That would be super helpful!
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks, I intend to post some updates after using it for substantial amount of time regularly, and after some updates hopefully
@nmatheis
@nmatheis Ай бұрын
​@@donglemadnessThanks so much, Andy. If it's quick, handles multitasking well, takes decent pics (and hopefully a GCam port), and gets a decent update commitment that'll make me feel much more confident buying one. Hearing from some US buyers about 4g/5g band support with T-Mobile would also help. It looks like it would work, but I'd want to make sure it works well on my network.
@pranavmohite8544
@pranavmohite8544 24 күн бұрын
Thanks for the review! Not many reviews out there for the miad-01, which is surprising given how unique of a device it is! The camera problem, I think could be solved by a gcam port developed for it.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 24 күн бұрын
Thanks. Yes I think with GCAM the camera could perform better. I haven't had the time to try it myself yet but hoping to do so soon and then post another video on MIAD01 after 1 month of usage
@brewbearz1136
@brewbearz1136 Ай бұрын
Hey Andy! Awesome review as always! Ngl, a phone like this makes sense. Performance on a phone seems to be so high now that any mid range phone can handle pretty much whatever you throw at it, and top end phones just for flair (Then again, coming from a S23 Ultra user xd). Sound tho, Moondrop definitely opened a new path on that regards. Just wanna ask, will you be reviewing the Moondrop Cosmo headphones? Red Ape sells it too. Was also wondering how it would compare to the Hifiman Arya Organic too. Don't dare to make the jump to either just yet.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks. Perhaps one of these days I will visit Red Ape and try some Moondrop headphones 😁
@jamesberryman9893
@jamesberryman9893 Ай бұрын
Fantastic review, Andy! This phone is absolutely amazing for the price! I still have a Fold 3 and will be changing phones and services in December. I can't wait to be out of that contract because the service is not so good in our area.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
My pleasure 😁🙏
@georgesabitpol
@georgesabitpol 9 күн бұрын
I got one of these. I sounds way better than my hibi r6 and my sony NWWM1A....Can't believe it!
@blackstar_1069
@blackstar_1069 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the in-depth review and comparison, the phone looks really impressive.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@rahullamba9318
@rahullamba9318 Ай бұрын
We live in times where $1,500 phones come with no 3.5mm jack, so this is definitely a much required evolution. Though I think for most of us the leap of faith to Moondrop 'as a phone' is too much to ask for. IMO, It's definitely better to just buy a Dongle for our existing phone. Among other benefits it also gives us flexibility to different upgrade paths for each the Phone and the Audio experience. Thanks for the review, Andy!
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
No worries. And thanks!
@Annabelle_UwU
@Annabelle_UwU Ай бұрын
The whole point of this device is for convenience where you sort of get a 2-in-1 device. Buying a dongle kind of defeats the purpose of this IMO. It doesn't excel in either as a phone nor as a DAP, but it's "good" enough for both considering the convenience of this.
@ultimazero
@ultimazero Ай бұрын
@@Annabelle_UwU USB Port is prone to wear and tear and I find that it is much more sensitive when it comes to audio. I'm having an issue with my phone where any slight movement on the USB Port with the dongle plugged in causes the playback to stop and also causes issues where the DAC doesn't get detected sometimes whenever it gets disconnected like that which is very annoying and the main reason why I find MIAD01 very useful. This only happens with the dongle and not when its charging which is what lead me to believe that the USB Port is a lot more sensitive with audio output.
@yudhanjaya
@yudhanjaya Ай бұрын
Great review, Andy. You saved me quite a bit of cash! I winced a bit at the loss of that mSD card.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Hey thanks. Yeah, I gonna miss that MicroSD
@dariusk.7226
@dariusk.7226 Ай бұрын
After seeing what happened to it I'd suggest insert sd card on switched off device. But that issue may occur on any device to be fair. I'd say that's very unlucky coincidence.
@armo4594
@armo4594 15 күн бұрын
Thank you Andry for the detailed review, we appreciate it very much.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 15 күн бұрын
My pleasure!
@bogbog
@bogbog Ай бұрын
Hey, really nice bit of information in this video. But i also have a request. The only device i can think of that serves the same purpose as this device is the LG V60 ThinQ. A lot of people, including me use that phone as a DAP because of it's ES9219 Quad DAC. It would be amazing if you could compare these two devices in a video 🙏
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks. I did not own a V60 because when I compare them side by side with V50, I can't tell if there's anything that V60 does better than what V50 already achieved, in fact I stuck with V50 because V50 offers better camera performance and audio wise I firmly believe it is also the best among all LG Quad DAC
@raphaelldsantos
@raphaelldsantos Ай бұрын
Great video review Andy!
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!
@lordlopes2424
@lordlopes2424 Ай бұрын
Well for a first phone is something good. Moondrop should just fix the UI stuff,the camera,the screen and the chipset in the future versions. Let's hope Fiio,Ibasso or Astell and Kern can follow this and make their own smartphone.
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Ай бұрын
i really don't think they should. these companys don't have the finantial capacity to develop these kinds of product whith relation to the software front. it takes a lot of investment even after they sell the product. These companys are more worried at launching the next product, it's where they make their money so if you want the software fixed and updated for a few years, you'll probably have to buy the next one they make. I might be wrong but i think this will become a brick in a few years time, after android gets updated 1 or 2 times. A good move would have been a partnership - where the audio brand would develop/ deal with the audio front - with a bigger and established company in the smartphone world. If any of those brands or other ones are up for it, that would be something i'd be willing to give a try.
@lordlopes2424
@lordlopes2424 Ай бұрын
@@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Bro most of then if they try to copy Moondrop here would use oem from another brand like the ones from BBK eletronics,the rest is not hard.
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh
@JoseFerreira-zb7wh Ай бұрын
@@lordlopes2424 the hardware is not my concern. keeping up with android updates requires massive investments in software development. Only huge companys can continue updating software after the product doesn't sell because at that point there is no money paying that investment. You have to sell a shitload of cellphones to pay for future updates. This is a niche product from a niche brand. I might be wrong but i predict it will become a brick sooner than later (after a couple of android updates). Moondrop link app should be the headsup. It exists for quite some time now, with a few versions and still it is buggy and clunky as hell. And it's just 1 app, a much more simple affair!
@or1on89
@or1on89 Ай бұрын
If the Open Source community takes on this device it will be an interesting phone to own…
@welehweleh-zb6jc
@welehweleh-zb6jc 26 күн бұрын
it will be hard tho. mediatek is a closed source soc. very little to none will interested with it😅
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 24 күн бұрын
​@@welehweleh-zb6jcyeah, although there will still be some interesting things that can be done for a phone with a balanced Port, potentially with third-party apps from f. Droid and the like
@syedrehanfida
@syedrehanfida Ай бұрын
Great and in-depth review! The 4.4mm jack on a smartphone is a dream! How does the 4.4mm jack compare to a usb dac dongle like moonriver or dawn pro on the miad?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks. I would rate the sound performance of MIAD 01 on par to iBasso DC04Pro, just a bit better than the DAWN Pro. Great natural/neutral transparent tuning, with no edgy sharp imaging, no offensiveness
@syedrehanfida
@syedrehanfida Ай бұрын
@@donglemadness Thank you for the info!
@Vektorion
@Vektorion Ай бұрын
Best review EVER !
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏😁
@mickeybreg1
@mickeybreg1 Ай бұрын
i like it how you described those photo samples. it’s like you’re describing iem 🤭
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Hahaha, photography and video is also about dynamic range of colors and tone, about transparency and accuracy, so yes it shares many similarities with audio 😁
@iphantomancerxd
@iphantomancerxd Ай бұрын
Appreciate the review!
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@Jaawaudio
@Jaawaudio Ай бұрын
Thank you for the review! Great looking product, now the biggest question for me is, how many years of software support (security main concern) is Moondrop doing? 1-2 years? Hopefully more?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks. I sincerely hope that Moondrop will be diligent with developing this path starting with consistent updates for MIAD01, that will truly determine if this will be a successful evolution
@TheTechnicsfan
@TheTechnicsfan Ай бұрын
Good video, appreciate your review. Could you ellaborate on the sound quality on 3.5mm output between this and the LG V50? Does this worth the 2x cost over the LG? I only have unbalanced, low impedance gear.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks. Sound quality of MIAD01 on 3.5mm especially for easy to drive stuffs is equal to what I hear from the 4.4mm BAL. And MIAD01 to me is superior than my V50 (compared both on 3.5mm), MIAD01 is more natural and realistic sounding, while V50 is crispy edged and at times sounding digital with upper frequency rendering, V50 is also more prone to Pinna Glare/Sibilance on upper Mids
@TheTechnicsfan
@TheTechnicsfan Ай бұрын
​@@donglemadnessThank you, much appreciated!
@Aurionwill
@Aurionwill Ай бұрын
Amazing review. My hype is real.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
🙏
@MirrorMan90
@MirrorMan90 Ай бұрын
Hi Andy, very good video! May i ask if you will ever compare this with DAP? Namely SP2k, SP3K, Fiio m23, so in and so forth?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
I can only compare what is available to me, and I don't have access to those expensive DAPs
@MirrorMan90
@MirrorMan90 Ай бұрын
@@donglemadness understand. What about other range of dap such as shanling, hiby or fiio?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
@@MirrorMan90 MIAD01 is comparable to iBasso DC04Pro, so you have an idea where it stands, and you would probably know how I rated iBasso DC04Pro
@RanenPo
@RanenPo 7 күн бұрын
18:34 to be exact, it bypasses Android resampling and does bit-perfect playback system-wide (SRC just means Android auto resamples audio by default to 16bit/48khz)
@georgesabitpol
@georgesabitpol 9 күн бұрын
Must say I really liked your video!
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 9 күн бұрын
I appreciate that! Thanks!
@Vysair
@Vysair 17 күн бұрын
After watching your review, Im convinced that this is by far the most ideal music player. At announcement, we all made fun of this for being unnecessary but after I have ran out of space as my flac library grew, Im now in need of a dedicated audio device (as I can have an sd card solely dedicated to audio instead of sharing it for photos & videos). Once someone made a config of Google Camera for this phone, the photo issues would be effectively solved as well. And thank you for the review, it is extremely detailed and in-line with the audiophile. Also, it's kinda funny at how he identified correctly a Cirrus Logic as No.2 because Moondrop is also a Cirrus. The only thing holding me back is the RM1.9K pricetag haha
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 17 күн бұрын
That is true, all things considered, I really do believe MIAD01 is a better DAP than LG V35 and V50 which I am so very familiar with, the sound tuning of MIAD01 is natural and open sounding, in contrast the LG Quad DAC offers more of digitally enhanced sound lacking organic sense to it despite being highly analytical. With MIAD01 you get both analytical prowess and natural timbre on top of it - at least for me, that is a winning combo. And not forgetting the true value of MIAD01 is the 4 VRMS power you get from the 4.4mm BAL, which is more than double what you will ever get from any 2 VRMS LG Quad DAC. It hurts me still I lost my SDcard, but then I will not allow it to cloud my objective assessment of what MIAD01 does really well
@jaybrodnax
@jaybrodnax Ай бұрын
Thank you for the great review! Mine is in the mail! I also have the Samsung CoverX Pro 6, which has SD and 3.5mm headphone jack (sounds good to me!) Big problem with the Moondrop is it looks like there is NO CASE available!
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Yes, I was looking for the case too, hopefully soon there will be some cases for protection. Moondrop should make one
@jaybrodnax
@jaybrodnax Ай бұрын
@@donglemadness it looks like they have a file to 3d-print your own case in the downloads section of their website, but I don't have access to a 3d printer
@davispatterson7093
@davispatterson7093 29 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video and showcasing the true intent of the device rather than just mundane stuff in it.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 29 күн бұрын
Very welcome
@Lolle9999
@Lolle9999 20 күн бұрын
In still debating if i should get this instead of my lg v50 as a music streaming device for my iem's and sometimes t50rp headphones as my lg is slowly dying due to being old and having battery issues however i have seen that the moondrop phone doesnt have system wide eq which is required for me and i have seen on some forums that the moondrops amp has less power output than the lg which is bad since i sometimes want to run hard to drive headphones. Also wished that you did a power comparison with the 3.5mm jack.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 20 күн бұрын
The 3.5mm side offers only half the power it is capable of, designated for highly efficient IEMs. For headphones you need a 4.4mm BAL setup and it has double the power of any LG Quad DAC
@lltechview
@lltechview Ай бұрын
MIAD 01 isn't flagship phone. The Mediatek 7050 is a rebranded 1080 which is ok for the 200-300€/$ price region. It shouldn't become anywhere close to the Sony Xperia 1 IV or V in SoC (CPU+GPU) scores. The microSD card thing is weird. In the future if a microSD with data working on another phone tells you to format on insertion don't do it as it is an indicator for something wrong or not correctly detected. I also learned that with Huawei NM card the hard way. But of course I had a backup. The card I could rescue somehow under linux with an nm card reader. Not sure about your microSD but if you have still warranty on it. Replace it. Otherwise a great sound listening device. What no one showed however can it be used as audio recorder with external mics as well. Either in video recording or with a special app like Parrot. Also does it have display out? So can I attach it with a USB-C to HDMI to a monitor. Might be useful as a mediacenter replacement for example. Also did you get any updates? Their camera performance especially in video and EIS was a bit abysmal even for the entry level midrange phone.
@theish9
@theish9 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this. You got s sub. Very detailed review thanks.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub! 😁
@gabsriel
@gabsriel Ай бұрын
Comparing this phone to an older flagship is a cleaver idea :-) Thanks for this excellent review !
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
My pleasure 🙏
@EngrRomero
@EngrRomero Ай бұрын
Andy, thanks for bringing an audiophile phone review to replace my lg v60 phone. Does the Miad01 come with Google Play Store?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
No worries, Google Play and services are present, you just need to go to Apps and enable them, then run updates. All good
@EngrRomero
@EngrRomero Ай бұрын
@@donglemadness Thanks 👍
@filippoduso6112
@filippoduso6112 Ай бұрын
much appreciated review, as a lgv50 user i was looking forward to a new "hifi" phone. Lg doesn't do them anymore and sony is way too expensive.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
My pleasure. I totally feel your sentiment there
@adign027
@adign027 Ай бұрын
Hi Andy, did you try to insert other Micro SD Card (any cheap ones you can afford to lose) if they work or still break them? Also, for the usb performance test you did, you don't have to really look at the voltages.. What you want to read is the power draw which is Power (W) = Voltage (V) x Current (A) But even if you know the Power, their difference is not much significant.. All of them were just drawing aroung 0.5 watts (idle) and these modern smart phones will be smart enough to provide enough Power when working with load (listening to music) and will not have noticable difference. So all of them should be fine for DAC usage as long as the phone supports OTG.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks. No I haven't tried with other MicroSD card yet. And thanks as well for the heads up on Volt/mW info
@Temperature980
@Temperature980 Ай бұрын
How many phones are you allowed to have?
@jigsomyoca5377
@jigsomyoca5377 Ай бұрын
Ordered the fiio ka17 based on your review. Should arrive next week with the lestshuor s12 pro.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Congrats on your KA17 purchase!
@jigsomyoca5377
@jigsomyoca5377 Ай бұрын
@@donglemadness thanks, your review was the last push i needed to pull the trigger. Based on you descritpion on its soundstage, imaging and detail retrieval, it sounded perfect for gaming which is probably 50% of my use case. I also like to hear every nuances and detail on the highs in music.
@lordlopes2424
@lordlopes2424 Ай бұрын
@@jigsomyoca5377 Be careful with this combo,the S12 is easy to drive and if you put a lot of power you can burn the driver.
@qweum8
@qweum8 Ай бұрын
Hi Andy, great review I love it! In minute 27:55 you talk about volume loudness and show casually the headphone that I own which is HD600 which is 300Ohm and have a sensivity of 97dB at 1kHz. My question is, would the balanced output take over all the dynamics the HD600 have to offer? How do you felt it against your other dedicated desktop amps? It is the same? Or maybe with a good desktop amp it scales better? Thank you! Cheers! +1sub
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks. My own experience and listening, my HD600 sounded 5% better on my desktop setups (above 2500 mW DAC/Amps). That's the only difference, a meager 5% loss in overall sound performance. And practically inaudible if you are not comparing them side by side
@qweum8
@qweum8 Ай бұрын
@@donglemadness thanks!! I appreciate it a lot
@DJbernardo1320
@DJbernardo1320 15 күн бұрын
Solid Sharing and blind test❤❤❤
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 15 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@matusjurcik6974
@matusjurcik6974 Ай бұрын
27:50 I am not sure about this. If it is anything like my LG g7 by plugging of adapter before low impedance headphone you wont achieve high output mode just aux mode. In order to achieve high output u will propably need to pluch adapter first, then headphones over 50ohm to trigger hight output, then you will unplug high impedance headphone and u will use whatever iem?headphone you want and system will remember (once it is triggered it will stay triggered until adapter is unplugged). And this way u will achieve true high output with low impedance iems or headphones.
@shamelessplace111
@shamelessplace111 Ай бұрын
The question I would have is what is the software support and firmware support update schedule Will there be one? And will they work on or do camera updates to take out some of the noise. And and what cameras are they using what type of cameras are they? the same ones in the you know Samsung camera? you know that sort of thing. What also be curious to see how many US base companies are going to do something like this. Man when I say that I mean Sony yes it's a Japanese company you know what I mean. I'm just curious how much this miad 01 is going to influence other companies to do the same thing. You
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
That remains to be seen. I do hope Moondrop will be diligent developing this path with proper updates when needed. And I do hope more companies and brand to take this as an initiative as well
@terencelo6529
@terencelo6529 Ай бұрын
Hi Andy, i faced the same problem as you when inserting a 512gb Sandisk micro usb into the miad01... but luckily it didnt kill the card but reformatting it to a fat32 file system... which means i cant store any files larger than 4gb into the micro usb card. This is bad as i am used to watching 1080p or 2160p movies when i am travelling. same happens to an otg memory stick attaching to the type c port.. i can however put files larger than 4gb into the 256gb internal memory... this is teriffying... as i cant imagines phones today cannot read the exfat nor the ntfs file format usb cards... Seems moondrop needs to give the user a system update to solve this bug... other than the storage card format issue, as a mid range user, i am happy with its overall performance, particularly the dap function, the sensitiveness and vividness of the oled display... the camera quality is acceptable when i switch onto 64mb shooting function.... yes... i will use it as my everyday second phone
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks, I am happy that at least you can still use your MicroSD. I sincerely hope Moondrop will provide and update on this MicroSD thing before I insert another SD card into it. For now I can live with the internal 256GB. And my MIAD01 actually serve as my primary phone now, with my Xperia 1 iV sitting comfy in my other pocket for some other stuffs I normally do like taking photos and vids
@PradeepChakravarthyB
@PradeepChakravarthyB 14 күн бұрын
Excellent review.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 14 күн бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@TheRanggadnd
@TheRanggadnd Ай бұрын
will you cover Hiby R4 in the near future?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
I am not too sure
@SpirallingOut
@SpirallingOut Ай бұрын
Hopefully this influences competition for more audio-focused DAP phones from other brands with dedicated audio circuitry, different DACs & 4.4mm output. I'd like to see one with an R2R. Even better would be shrinking the modular concept of Xduoo's XD05 Pro by having a phone with swappable DAC cards. Moondrop is going to have to fix that SD card issue though. People won't buy it if it's going to potentially brick an up to 1.5Tb SD card.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
That's my wish too
@lordlopes2424
@lordlopes2424 Ай бұрын
Now I imagine a Hiby Smartphone with the FC6 build in but with more power and a 4.4mm balanced jack.
@yoavhal6050
@yoavhal6050 Ай бұрын
hi endy. i got, eventualy the dewx4 simgot(a present-so my son chose it- after i told him that there is a serious recommendation for it. he has told me that now im the owner of both excellent dac and the owner of X....
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Awesome
@otaimerzgaming
@otaimerzgaming Ай бұрын
Terima kasih bang. Saya tercari2 Review dari Malaysia akhirnya saya jumpa. Saya tertarik dengan telefon ini. Tapi dalam masa yang sama Saya teringin nak rasa Ibasso dx170. Abg rasa mana yang bagus samada Moondrop Miad 01 ataupun Ibasso Dx170?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Tak pasti la pulak, sebab tak test lagi DX170, so tak tau nak compare camna
@makoto4341
@makoto4341 24 күн бұрын
Good video, helped me confirm that i won't be getting this (i'd rather just grab a usb dac for my current phone). Oh, and no idea if you ever fixed the microsd, but it's likely you can recover it with a specialized partition manager program (like easeus partition master), i've had good luck using those to recover "dead" cards (which are often not dead, just messed up at partition level).
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 23 күн бұрын
I haven't tried repairing the SD card yet, too many other things to do still. And until today I am using my MIAD01 as my primary phones, just love the simplicity of directly attaching my 4.4mm BAL IEMs and headphones without the hassle of lugging dongles around, and I still get the sort of sound quality which I love
@chaniibak7702
@chaniibak7702 17 күн бұрын
hi Andy! quick question, for my truthear hexa's i'm seriously struggling to choose a portable amp/dac. I'm siding with the colorfly CDA-m1p, but the pd5 also looks enticing. I'm also a noob, so i'm not aware of many dongles (i picked those two based off your reviews, which I really liked)
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 17 күн бұрын
Between M1P and PD5 both are equally great for what they offer, just remember that M1P offers richer sound texture and more analog sounding but the PD5 is a bit more technical, make your decisions on which characteristics you prefer more. Can't go wrong with any one of them really
@chaniibak7702
@chaniibak7702 17 күн бұрын
@@donglemadness I see, it's extremely reassuring to hear this from you. I'll go with M1P, I suspect it'd pair nicer with the Hexa's, as well as my music taste.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 17 күн бұрын
@@chaniibak7702 Yes, M1P will help to bring some denser sound body to Hexa, that's for sure
@chaniibak7702
@chaniibak7702 11 күн бұрын
@@donglemadness Oh my goodness Andy, it has a lot more density and body. I love it so much, my motherboard sounds like im listening to a tin can now lol. The weight of it isn't bad at all either, i use my 45 gram mouse as reference before I got it so I know what I'm dealing with, but its a lot nicer in my hand than i originally thought. Your channel is invaluable, thank you so much.
@yoavhal6050
@yoavhal6050 Ай бұрын
by the way- it is a hell of a matchmaker between my shure se in ear and pixel 7...
@Xandras25
@Xandras25 Ай бұрын
A professionally done review, I will watch this channel. Do you know of any resources to make this and other chinese phones ready for use in the US market? I tire of paying samsungs prices.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks man. Really appreciate this. I think for US consumers, you can see it in Amazon soon via HiFiGo. You can already get it internationally via HiFiGo direct site as well
@michaelcorcoran8768
@michaelcorcoran8768 24 күн бұрын
Giztop Is a place where I know a lot of people import phones to the US that aren't usually available here. But I don't know if something like this would be there, you might have to go to the audio specific places
@nazreenshah8001
@nazreenshah8001 Ай бұрын
Looking forward to see review after 1 month use😁
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
I could do that
@Josephtwx
@Josephtwx 29 күн бұрын
Thank you for your review. Did you have to install the Google apps and GMS manually? Or did they come pre-installed
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 29 күн бұрын
Thanks. They are already there. Google basic services and you just need to enable them and set permissions
@ThoScheen
@ThoScheen Ай бұрын
Nice review 😊 If you have some spare time left, could you please checkout some Hires Music tracks with UAPP in bit-perfect mode with the Tidal add-in ? Does the UAPP playback screen show the higher quality, for example 96kHz, 24 bit? With this combo, curious to see whether the GMS properly work. UAPP comes with in-app purchases. So there is a constant license check. Does it work?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
No worries, I will need to test this as I almost never use UAPP lately, preferring the native Tidal App or HIBY Music
@ThoScheen
@ThoScheen Ай бұрын
@donglemadness Thx, forgot to ask, maybe also try any kind of music with a headphone, once in ’normal’ mode and once in Flight-mode, thus with 5G off. I'm curious to see whether there’s a difference or not.
@ZachiFriedman
@ZachiFriedman Ай бұрын
I am also very interested to see whether UAPP works with the MIAD01 or not. Looking forward to Andy's feedback on that one.
@aprann9012
@aprann9012 Ай бұрын
Fantastic review
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thank you kindly🙏
@user-ly8jp6gm9r
@user-ly8jp6gm9r 13 күн бұрын
Hi Andy. Can this phone give power for ve prime dac? or not and need additional power source?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 13 күн бұрын
Yes it can
@ultimazero
@ultimazero Ай бұрын
is there a way to use the "Exclusive HQ USB audio access" feature on Hiby music on the MIAD 01 which allows for better volume display and exclusive bit perfect playback without needing an external usb dac? or does it not work with the headphone jacks?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Yes you can still use HIBY Exclusive mode on MIAD 01. By default MIAD01 will already have SRC bypassed for anything running on it, so enabling USB Exclusive mode is not really required, but it will isolate to just HIBY Music App to use any attached DAC. For example, MIAD 01 already offer 100 steps volume adjustment at the base level, on other phones you need HIBY Music App to get refined volume like that, now you don't have to
@ultimazero
@ultimazero Ай бұрын
@@donglemadness Thank you for the detailed response! I knew it had SRC bypassed as I did watch your whole video, I just like how the app isolates audio output to HiBy Music only without any interference from other apps and with the volume display I meant as in HiBy Music shows the volume slider in numbers which is easier to keep track of compared to default android volume slider which does not show which volume level it is at in numbers.
@Vysair
@Vysair 17 күн бұрын
@@donglemadness btw, Samsung also offer a 1 - 10 step volume adjustment. You just had to install their Sound Assistant app (also part of Good Lock and it is available in Malaysia, for those are not we have Nice Lock)
@milanoreviera88
@milanoreviera88 Ай бұрын
terbaik sifu🎉
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
TQTQ!
@jubz25146
@jubz25146 Ай бұрын
The xperia mk4 is known for having thermal throttling issues. This may explain the lower cpu benchmark score. The mk 5 is said to have fixed these issues
@lordlopes2424
@lordlopes2424 Ай бұрын
That's because of the useless 4k screen The 1 Mark V didn't solve this,but there's leaks saying that Xperia 1 Mark VI will not use the 4k screen,which will be better.
@AndrewYouTubeUK
@AndrewYouTubeUK Ай бұрын
Excellent review as always. I personally wouldn’t get this because I want a phone to last several years including OS and security updates and Moon drop don’t yet have a proven track record of doing phone updates. However, even if that was not the case I prefer the flexibility of a separate dac that I can use with multiple devices including a phone that’s better suited for my other needs. Hopefully, this will encourage Sony to go even further with top level audio with a phone-and increase their commitment to updates.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thank you
@lucas-li8ty
@lucas-li8ty 5 күн бұрын
What model of reliable charger do you use? I'm wondering because one doesn't come standard and could damage the battery.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 5 күн бұрын
I use two Xiaomi original 33W and 66W chargers, perfect for any phone
@madz6n6
@madz6n6 Ай бұрын
27:36 I think you should compare with the same output will all use 3,5mm, not 4,4mm and 3,5mm on MIAD 01, it will be fair comparison
@TopFinancialAdvisor
@TopFinancialAdvisor Ай бұрын
Bro Andy, Which DAC Dongle has better sound quality and power between JCally JM7 and KZ AM 01? Thank you Brother 🙏👍
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
AM01 just a bit better
@TopFinancialAdvisor
@TopFinancialAdvisor Ай бұрын
@@donglemadness Thank you Bro Andy 🙏👍
@ignatiuspineapple5113
@ignatiuspineapple5113 Ай бұрын
best review in youtube
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thank you! Really appreciate that 😁🙏
@tor13128
@tor13128 Ай бұрын
when you said it destroyed your micro sd card, what happened to other cards you used later? does it destroy every card?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
I haven't purchased any new SDCard yet, the genuine cards are kind of a bit pricey
@richardalvarado1877
@richardalvarado1877 Ай бұрын
I hope this moondrop phone will be the catalyst for the revival of headphone jack on flagship devices. I also hope moondrop will include a free moondrop chu next time.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Me too
@lordlopes2424
@lordlopes2424 Ай бұрын
This is what we want,but unless some popular company does it I can't see this happen. But I hope that other audio companies try to follow Moondrop on this. I wouldn't mind to see a Fiio,Ibasso or an Astell and Kern smartphone.
@richardalvarado1877
@richardalvarado1877 Ай бұрын
​@@lordlopes2424 I want to see sony pour some "walkman" magic on their sony xperia line up. I heard that their audio input through their 3.5mm jack is very satisfactory while the output is kind of entry level.
@lordlopes2424
@lordlopes2424 Ай бұрын
@@richardalvarado1877 It wouldn't be bad,but the Xperia line is expensive and only some countries has it. I would hope a more famous brand would get the idea to focus more on the audio side of things.
@shamelessplace111
@shamelessplace111 Ай бұрын
​@@richardalvarado1877100% on this comment. I would also want Sony to implement a 4.4 balanced as well
@jigsomyoca5377
@jigsomyoca5377 Ай бұрын
This is my new fave audio gear channel together with gadgetry tech
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@bunyot
@bunyot Ай бұрын
Hey andy, do you know if this phone support alternate display over usb?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
I have no idea, I haven't tried anything like that with any of my Android phones. Perhaps someone can help you clarifying this
@bangbo77
@bangbo77 Ай бұрын
If I have to choose Sony wf1000xm4 earbuds vs hadizs mp145 with epz tp50 which one should I buy I am super confused please help me sir I am a fan of listing music and we have only apple music available in India for high res audio
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
I never tried that Sony so I can only recommend what I do know, which is the MP145, perfect with EPZ TP50
@chaukumlong4436
@chaukumlong4436 23 күн бұрын
I hope it will come out snapdragon version 😊
@nmatheis
@nmatheis Ай бұрын
Also, maybe someone will make a GCam port for this which will make the pics much more competitive 🤞
@shamnoor07
@shamnoor07 Ай бұрын
Boss... Can you recommend which is the best for desktop headphones DAC? TQ...😊
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
BURSON Audio Playmate 2 with full V7 Opamps
@bojojas1918
@bojojas1918 Ай бұрын
Mine is on the way to montreal,i buy at hifigo!!!! Best musicphone i will beside my xperia Pro-I
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Congratulations, best purchase for 2024 yet for me for sure :D
@cthis4786
@cthis4786 Ай бұрын
It is definitely better sounding than my Xperia 5 V phone, but nothing amazing though. Phone feels unbalanced in my hands being top-heavy.
@gongfreecss38
@gongfreecss38 Ай бұрын
My lg v30plus still doing great till now. Miad 01 maybe the next😅. Aamiin Thanks
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Wohooo😁😁😁
@maskudo
@maskudo Ай бұрын
I think I'll wait for the MIAD 02. If there's any.
@lordlopes2424
@lordlopes2424 Ай бұрын
You are doing the good thing. The first phone is always a test and not the best thing,just like what happen to the Nothing Phone 1.
@seth094978
@seth094978 19 күн бұрын
Me too
@moshell5249
@moshell5249 Ай бұрын
Did you test the Vivo X90 Pro? It has the CS43131 without the headphone jack so needs an analog dongle. However has Hi-fi mode support for UAPP and most major apps and is a proper flagship with camera etc.. would be great to compare to Miad 01 audio wise thx
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Unfortunately no. I don't have X90. When you attach an external DAC via USB, then the entire audio processing will be 100% done by the external DAC/Dongle, that internal CS43131 of X90 will be completely bypassed. Without a phone jack then I think it is kind of redundant to have a good DAC and no proper output to channel it through. Using BT would depend a lot on the BT DAC/DSP, so again that CS43131 largely redundant
@moshell5249
@moshell5249 Ай бұрын
@@donglemadness that's the part they don't market well hence goes unnoticed - I used an older Moto Z analogy dongle and that uses the internal DAC as it doesn't have any - to my ears it sounds even better than tmy LG G8X. Except I'm not sure how customers are supposed to realize this trick exists if that dongle isn't supplied in the box. Removing the jack in this case was a bad idea
@youranonymous931
@youranonymous931 Ай бұрын
​@@donglemadnessyou can get a dongle without DAC and only has audio pass through, that should make use of the internal phone's DAC
@777zekepitargue3
@777zekepitargue3 Ай бұрын
Nice review Andy! I am not a fan of DAPS as it is very inconvenient especially I am always on the go. It is always challenging to play Tidal and Qobuz on a DAP. What I like about it is that Android is no longer limited to the compression it is now bit perfect . I can now play Tidal and Qobuz without using USB Pro player which limits its features. Thanks again for a good review
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
No worries man. And thanks. I am really digging this new direction Moondrop doing
@lordlopes2424
@lordlopes2424 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah now with Android 14 is like this Sad that Google's own Pixel line is not working well with dongles.
@OledBurnInKing
@OledBurnInKing Ай бұрын
​​@@lordlopes2424The dongles with the pixel line not working properly because google wants to push for bluetooth earbuds since they sell bluetooth earbuds just like every phone manufacturer to make more money. Ever since the manufacturers removed the headphone jack on there phones, they are just trying to sell bluetooth earbuds and headphones as a replacement for the loss of the headphone jack to make money and use bluetooth as some kind of marketing similar to dobly atmos. Since bluetooth audio and dobly atmos are popular due to marketing that are being pushed. The majority of consumers are willing to sacrifice high quality and universal standards because of convenience that were around before bluetooth audio and dolby atmos was popularized since audiophiles and the users that stick to universal standards have become niche. The phone manufacturers are trying to lock down there bluetooth earbuds and headphones to there specific brand with there own ecosystems intentionally to make only certain features and functionality work with there brand otherwise the features and functionality does not work with certain brands. For example, for lossless audio over bluetooth requires a device to have the snapdragon 8 gen 2 and newer and there devices that use processors from a variety of manufacturers that are not compatible with lossless audio over bluetooth. For instance, samsung with exynos, mediatek and the variety of processors, huawei with kirin, qualcomm with there snapdragon devices, tsmc processors and apple processors that are manufactured by tsmc. Ever since bluetooth audio and eco systems became popular, they have become fragmented because they are following the foot steps of apple to make a quick buck. When the manufacturers stuck with universal standards like the headphone jack and now usb c, there was no proprietary way of doing things that cause compatibility issues like bluetooth audio and ecosystems since they are the main reasons why things are confusing for the average consumer and they stick to what is popular and whatever is mainstream.
@heyking8583
@heyking8583 Ай бұрын
​​@@lordlopes2424wdym, my pixel 5 work fine
@the7observer
@the7observer Ай бұрын
6:50 keep in mind performance benchmark programs are not 100% reliable way to measure performance. Another way to measure is to open a certain list of apps in sequence and see how long the phone takes. Or just run Genshin Impact or any heavy game and see if the phone can reach 60 frames per second My major concern for this phone: Android security and version updates support, for how long users will have support on these? And how easy it is to repair.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
It s yet to be seen how Moondrop will handle updates, since this is their first time doing stuff like this
@painpeace3619
@painpeace3619 Ай бұрын
Cool t-shirt 😮
@spott5245
@spott5245 23 күн бұрын
does Maybank/MAE apps work on this device some say banking apps don't work
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 23 күн бұрын
My MAE working 100% without any issues. Secure 2U also working flawlessly
@Opeth1483
@Opeth1483 Ай бұрын
Which hifi player you can compare with miad 01 in terms of sound quality (overall dac, amp)...
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Cayin N3 Pro
@ronysmendez7078
@ronysmendez7078 Ай бұрын
Hello Andy! Do you have any idea if the bank apps and Google Maps work correctly? I work with these applications every day and I understand that they do not work. Do you know anything about that?
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Yes I was already using my bank apps even on the first day, also Google Maps work perfectly
@ronysmendez7078
@ronysmendez7078 Ай бұрын
@@donglemadness Thank you andy! :D
@ronysmendez7078
@ronysmendez7078 Ай бұрын
@@donglemadness What about whatsapp? any problem with that app?
@banghbr283
@banghbr283 26 күн бұрын
could you like to review gaming phone like rog 6 or 7 sir?? A people said dac rog phone have better quality than ori android phone sir... Please salam from indonesia...
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 26 күн бұрын
Thanks. And salam to you too. I would love to try the ROG phones but they are exceedingly pricey just for me to buy and test/review. As you can see here, I already have 5 phones in my possession, lol
@Rumeel12708
@Rumeel12708 Ай бұрын
Amazing review!!!!!! I'm debating on this or Hiby R4 🤔🤔🤔.
@donglemadness
@donglemadness Ай бұрын
Thanks! 😁
@8bitchiptune420
@8bitchiptune420 Ай бұрын
Wow.. now reviewing phones too. Nice.
@DJbernardo1320
@DJbernardo1320 10 күн бұрын
Audio lovers time to choose the comeback 😂😂😂
@haziqsembilanlima
@haziqsembilanlima 23 күн бұрын
rosak ke sdcard tu bro? kadang2 boleh try recover pakai linux tools
@donglemadness
@donglemadness 23 күн бұрын
Takde masa nak try recover lagi. Banyak mende lain nak kena buat dulu
@gockartzz8272
@gockartzz8272 Ай бұрын
I find it strange that the mediatek score higher than a snapdrsgon here when the 7000 Thousands series is a midrwnge chip and 8000 and 9000 are high end chips 4:51
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