Love the concept, this is the way to go. I have one small modification to suggest; replace the diesel with a small (micro)gas turbine, virtually no vibrations, smaller - can be hidden virtually anywhere, less maintenance, lighter by a factor 4-5 and as a bonus will burn just about any fuel if need be. I think that is the next step from this already excellent system.
@bestvip58035 жыл бұрын
Only problem is the diesel is about 25-30% more fuel efficient so you'll have to carry a lot more gas vs diesel. Plus a diesel can generate far more power(torque) which could power a turbine generator in the future to charge even faster
@charlesharper23574 жыл бұрын
@@bestvip5803 And diesel can be found anywhere.
@squicht4 жыл бұрын
Can the turbine burn diesel? Diesel is highly preferable to gasoline in marine applications (especially long-distance, world-traveling applications) because its much more widely available. Also, unlike gas, spilled diesel won't ignite, and it won't create fumes that cause explosions. Diesel as a fluid is much safer than gasoline (if you drop a lit match into diesel fuel, the match goes out).
@markjennings23154 жыл бұрын
@@squicht Turbines will run on diesel (Jet fuel is kerosene), not on petrol.
@clivestainlesssteelwomble76652 жыл бұрын
Theres an alternative to conventional ICE poppet valve generators that delivers many of those advantages and thats a rotorwankle APU unit.. much smaller, lighter smoother very few parts. Only the rotor shaft, the tip and the bearings move all primary forces are balanced ..no vibes and much, much quieter. Historic rotor tip wear issues are pretty much resolved now curtisy of Mazda and tuning specialists and they love running at a constant and higher speeds... in a car the stop go demand reduces their efficiency and increases wear.
@68corvette14 жыл бұрын
WOW that's a great system. This will be the future in sailing. The way the props turn around to be hydro electric while under sail. Awesomeness....
@craigecunningham11 жыл бұрын
This is very exciting to see. It interests me greatly and would certainly look into deploying this system. It is great to see the theory applied to the beautiful Moonwave and I whish the Moonwave Systems team great success. I would like to note that the efforts you have gone to in the animation is very impressive and communictates the system very clearly. The audio message was articulated very clearly. An inspiring package of information.
@Moonwave-systems11 жыл бұрын
At the moment, it can be retrofitted to any cat with shaft drives and enough space for the components. Once the sail drive version is shipping it will also work for Cat's with sail drives.
@HopeOfJoe6 жыл бұрын
Totally love the moonwave power pack system
@77Cfriend9 жыл бұрын
this is a real step in the right direction, the future for cats keep getting brighter
@edgardosalguero99797 жыл бұрын
77Cfriend perfect 👌 electrical yachts. awesome
@mazdarx78878 жыл бұрын
No need to swivel the sail drive around to regen, just use a fixed prop and it will regen when under sail. much cheaper and more reliable than folding props and swivel system. This entire system is way more complicated and expensive than it needs to be, I guess thats why they haven't sold many
@PyleZAP976 жыл бұрын
Mazda rx7 ...Once batteries are topped off, and solar is keeping the trickle/float charge, while under sail, hydro-regeneration is no longer needed and fixed props become drag. 1-3 knot speed loss over a 1,000+ nautical mile journey, is unacceptable to any sailor.
@danmallery91423 жыл бұрын
I know this is from 4 years ago, but to answer your comment, the sail drives swivel 180 degrees anyway so they add absolutely no complexity to the sail drive itself. Also, almost every sailboat nowadays (gas, electric or diesel) have folding props to decrease drag, so no, this adds no additional complexity, either.
@franciscojmercado853810 жыл бұрын
I agree with Carrie Thomas; using a micro gas turbine would make this the best hybrid system around by a long shot. I would recomend working with these guys (www.bladonjets.com/applications/power-generation/), maybe you can work out a custom solution for your system or use your Gun Boat as a test bed for it and work on R&D with them. What is the power pack chemistry and energy density? Tesla Motors might be able to help there too, I'm sure they would love to work with you guys in order to expand their battery applications to marine drivetrains. Good luck and lots of success, hopefully you can keep developing this awesome technology further more.
@Moonwave-systems11 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your comment!
@Moonwave-systems10 жыл бұрын
They face downward to enable joystick docking. In applications where this is not required they can face inward at an angle.
@martinc98674 жыл бұрын
Genius to turn the props around to charge !Love it.Whats the price of a boat like this ?
@brotherbryan24148 жыл бұрын
This sounds like an answer to a lot of The hassle of selling a cat. Where can we get more specific information i.e. The charging capability of the regeneration system. At 10 kn could you let say he achieve 1000 W of power regeneration. More or less given let's say a fifth foot catamaran. Also the related cost? What kind of efficiency ? If you were to Power at 6 kn what would the gallons per hour be in relationship to directly powering a diesel engine.
@MrDschaen11 жыл бұрын
Quite an exciting thought-through system with nicely implemented ideas - just a quick general question though: Why did you opt for the drives to be facing directly downward as opposed to angling them inward between the hulls like the Alibi 54 for example? Wouldn't that make beaching this cat easier and be even safer for the drives in shallow waters? Thanks again for the the informative video - and as mentioned before me - the great visualization!
@Moonwave-systems11 жыл бұрын
Great, thank you Allen!
@michaelclarke51505 жыл бұрын
Love this idea but could it be made to work on a power cat without sails. Would say adding wind trubines with more solar and maybe a small hydro gen., with the gas turbine or diesel as a back up gen or range extenders only kicking into recharge batteries and then kicking back out.. Don't know if it would work but as a motor boater not a sailer this idea is one I would like to see.
@deibertmichael6 жыл бұрын
Love Love it! What manufacturers are using this now?
@stewartmclauchlan692210 жыл бұрын
nice.is there props--thrusters at the stern in the future for shore banking for the day.i see they a building a 40 ft and its so gotta hit the sand beaches in the blue water islands :)...props in the back a must
@martinc98674 жыл бұрын
I wonder if current is enough to recharge the batteries and how much current is necessary at a anchorage to do this.
@allenhobbs828011 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@GTFOplan4 жыл бұрын
Will you have a representative at the 2020 Miami boat show?
@dukedirtywork6203 жыл бұрын
I love this boat and the concept...but how dare you insult charcoal. Everyone knows charcoal makes the best BBQ , nothing "dirty" about it!
@alexpalmer32515 жыл бұрын
Is there a catamaran out there with this system installed other then the one on the video? I’d love to see this on a leopard 48 or 50.
@LudicFallacies10 жыл бұрын
Is this a joint effort with Torqeedo?
@Moonwave-systems8 жыл бұрын
+LudicFallacies Torqeedo has acquired Moonwave Systems: www.torqeedo.com/en/news-and-press/press-releases/press-release-2014-01-16.html
@yousufalkabour72675 жыл бұрын
I think it’s revolutionary system but what about the back up
@danmallery91423 жыл бұрын
It still retains a diesel generator for backup if extended motoring or if weather or other conditions do not allow sufficient charging.
@ryanstraight74310 жыл бұрын
Gunboat cat's at 2014 Dubai boat show?
@scottmechanical4 жыл бұрын
Would this system power a 54 ft mono Haul?
10 жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to the weight of those batteries and how that effects performance.
@odogg19469 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, according to the spec sheet:WEIGHT Typical install ca. 1,300KG* *Compare weight to the following conventional setup: 2 x 75PS diesel engines with accessories, 8KW generator, 2 bow thrusters, 2 stern thrusters, 2 x 5KW inverters, shore power charger, isolation transformer, 24V DC and AC service panels. www.moonwave-systems.com/catamaran-hybrid-propulsion/
@burlatsdemontaigne61479 жыл бұрын
odogg1946 I was thinking that in a mono-hull the batteries (*lithium ion?) could be built in to the keel, providing ballast as well as being cooled.
@savagecub5 жыл бұрын
What is a “bat tree” ?
@alfrednewman34165 жыл бұрын
What's the draft of this thing.. The rudders look really long.. Couldn't the rudders be either incorporated with drive units or extended horizontally instead of vertical
@bbudziszek16 жыл бұрын
Your website link is a spam boom... may want to fix that.
@scottmechanical4 жыл бұрын
Could someone please contact us???
@p__jay4 жыл бұрын
30 minutes engine run time doesnt get you far on a big crossing...!
@kellyschultz48482 жыл бұрын
UM NOT YOUR TECHNOLOGY #OWLET #FDA #STOLEN
@walkertongdee6 жыл бұрын
all talk and no boat again never come to fruition website link is dead lack of action kills all good ideas...
@rentiap6 жыл бұрын
www.torqeedo.com/us/en-us/products/hybrid-drives
@panther1056 жыл бұрын
You're right and I contacted them just now to update the link. It should be www.moonwave.com/ and they do have a functioning sailboat if you check the website.
@panther1056 жыл бұрын
thanks. so amazing......
@charlesharper23574 жыл бұрын
Post a video when you actually have a real boat using this fantasy...