MORDHAU - Pickle and Cucumber/wessex Drag Guide

[@connorbollinger4418]

Realism at its finest

[@Tinkuwu]

Where did it say they would have realistic combat?

[@connorbollinger4418]

Tinkuwu yo I hate u, ur too good

[@Tinkuwu]

@@connorbollinger4418 Alright

[@tba2204]

I mean the pickle move was kinda used irl

[@CoffeeSnep]

@@tba2204 HEMA guy here. In real life it would have to be two separate moves. If you are swinging towards the head, you cant bring it over the head and then false edge draw cut in one motion. To do so would meant that the first feinted cut would have to be very slow and too readable to work. It would have to be a half cut made into a feint, and then then do a draw cut. The problem with doing this is that you can't put any hip movement into it then due to the angle. If the false edge cut were started differently you could turn your hips and shoulders clockwise to generate power that otherwise would be lacking from a false edge cut. The only way to make a right side diagonal cut that feints into a false edge draw cut work is to perform the feint, lay the blade against their throat, and then pull the front foot back to meet the rear foot, producing a drawing motion. Against anything other than an exposed wrist or neck and this doesn't have the cutting power to incapacitate. This is why draw cuts with the false edge are so much less common, they depend upon constant force being exerted for power instead of a combination of speed and force like other false edge cuts. With the true edge, that isn't difficult because it is more in line with skeletal structure. A better feint into draw cut would be to perform the cut, and then quickly jerk the pommel to get the blade around the opponent's, and then twist the hips and step backwards to perform the cut. With a shorter blade you could also retract it to get it in the same position. This draw cut will have more power and will be able to cut through games gambeson material.

[@ruswanson9892]

such a good technique you make it look alot easier than it is

[@Bubz_mordhau]

I'm gonna sharpen up my drags for my next montage. good stuff

[@Pughhead]

Wow this game is really well designed!

[@hardboiled2987]

ikr? i fr*cking hate slow sword hacks! Every fight should be a neutral, stationary riposte battle until someone gets stammed. That would be realistic therefore a good system!

[@ravenoushydra7948]

I agree, I really like this game. I get to shit on casuals and tell them to go back to For Honor

[@kaylaeaton7538]

@@hardboiled2987 chivalry🤢

[@qukie2284]

how to play against the bot that stays in one place and trying to attack me so i can reposte the strike and practice swing manipulation?

[@Carebear_Pooh]

I can imagine that speeding up all animations while keeping the same turn cap will make it harder if not impossible to pull this off

[@Liam-ke2hv]

Problem is that release speeds are already stupidly fast and cheesy

[@dixie3601]

good

[@chrisgreely5958]

Absolutely broken

[@JG27Korny]

I think there is no physics behind it. It would be devastating on unarmored opponent but its effects should be reduced on full armor. The maximum force is at the peak swing acceleration, switching direction leads to a loss of momentum and should not give more than 30% of the normal damage. The game lacks proper physics, as it does not matter where in the trajectory of the swing the hits are connecting. This is exactly where the game can progress (proper physics and damage modeling). Also a strategy would be to take some of those hits just to position for a devastating peak acceleration hit.

[@logygm4335]

​@@JG27Korny that's the best solution I've heard, sadly won't ever happen

[@bizzarz6302]

​@@logygm4335Yup, won't happen.

[@UnimportantAcc]

Lovely clear guide. Subbed

[@logesin]

2:00 guy got sent straight to Brazil, or even worse, FRANCE

[@luckystride6524]

Super helpful for me being new to the game

[@vincentdolente7053]

The devs of this game must be the type of kids in school that would time out just before being tagged.

[@furbyfondler3238]

BAHAHHAHAH

[@hardboiled2987]

keep crying shitter

[@notenoughnite2602]

Your tutorial vids are top notch buddy! I was wondering what your mouse sensitivity settings you use or recommend?

[@Vanguardxe]

It's not as bad as chivalry, but it sure is heading down that road

[@msharmall7298]

It's getting really close. This shit ruins the game. Devs need to fix, it isn't realistic or fun.

[@blastazoidgaming9144]

@@msharmall7298 its the players that end up ruining games, im sick of it. we cant have nice things because it doesnt take long for people to decide they wanna fuck it all up

[@msharmall7298]

@@blastazoidgaming9144 The players are a symptom, not the cause. The cause is the development allowing it.

[@blastazoidgaming9144]

@@msharmall7298 and it doesn't matter, because no matter how many patches they release, people will still actively seek out ways to exploit/abuse mechanics.

[@vincentdolente7053]

It's litteraly worse than chivalry. They made the mechanic they said wasn't going to be in the game designed exactly for the way THEY wanna play. It's cringe.

[@YaGirlZero]

Wtf who thought of doing this, and I feel like I have to integrate this since I do shit like useless spins lol

[@MrFreshEnjoyer19]

Bruh how do you fake accel to drag so fucken fast? Feels like I'm stuck in the mud when I do it with the turncap

[@_-Naz-_]

Maybe he feints and then starts a swing

[@CoffeeSnep]

Where do these names even come from? I mean wessex sounds cool so thats understandable. But cucumber? Pickle? It might be the funniest shit I've ever seen but I dont know where the name comes from.

[@AxShade94]

This game is all about anim abuse

[@spirited1611]

yesir

[@magamagabovich1604]

thx man, at last i find a good guide!

[@schlopusmodangle]

Draw a cucumber over the head and draw a rainbow into their head 👍

[@gallantsteel8542]

Why do you have to settle for the head? Is it possible to aim for the body? There are some people who like to crouch when they mess up their parry (like me) so they don't get hit on their head or upper torso.

[@breeakmyhead]

Thank you most kindly!

[@thenooblet9872]

Whats your sense? Im tryna do these types of drags but my sense isnt right

[@junk204]

Really great guide! Nice one, mate!

[@vigaviga1776]

I tried it in real life. You won't believe, but ....

[@krosmo]

such a good tutorial. glad im subbed. please keep it up

[@orangepootis7787]

its more for flexing than using

[@Frosbeen]

Frosbeen enjoyed the video

[@faramund9865]

The first one a lot of people would call a waterfall

[@Tinkuwu]

A waterfall is the overhead swing version, where you start from one side, and hit your opponent on the opposite side.

[@kalervof3464]

Am I the only one who doesnt mind these kind of movess

[@KillbotD]

how do you go into enemy's pov like that ? i have always wanted to test some drags and accels with the enemy's pov but i never could find any videos on how to do so.

[@sgm8883]

what about the waterfall toe drag?

[@spirited1611]

Alex B I forgot oops

[@Sunrising528]

Hope it’s not gay if I say I love you for making this

[@a_skellington]

This is painful to watch, i have 1000 hrs in mordhau and i didnt know this existed, I just play casually, but now I know why all my fav pros left, if shit like this is what they had to deal with in pro lobbies.

[@kasdeyt]

Look at stouty play, where only 1 overhead exist. Its useless, just learn how to read it

[@Jonothanrust]

This is the type of mordhau guides we need.

[@kiranjackson7412]

Thankyou so much for this video my friend is an idiot and can't explain anything

[@gallantsteel8542]

2:12 Isn't this more like a pickle? Sure you did fake accel but the blade went to the other side of his head.

[@chandler7270]

awesome and simple guide, thanks!

[@HairyManlyMan]

its so broken...hope they fix that shit

[@hary71]

wow this is actualy broken u need to face the blade to even see it

[@whybars256]

you'd need a big dpi on ur mouse whats ur dpi and in game sensitivity man

[@allaltitudeproductions454]

woooooAAAAAAAAAAAOoow dude. so it literally IS abusing flaws in the game's design. I KNEW IT. I FUCKING KNEW IT, WAS RIGHT THE HOLE TIME.

[@Bebolife12345]

Learn to read them. It’s not hard. Honestly, it is not an unbeatable Uber hax glitch. Stop blaming the players and the game for your incompetence.

[@hardboiled2987]

@@Bebolife12345 Fr. The funny sword game genre brings out the biggest shitters. Its embarassing.

[@Character_Limit]

How do you move the mouse so fast from the fake Accel to the drag? What kind of sensitivity and DPI settings are you using?

[@MrTavrosNitram]

sensitivity and dpi dont matter. turn cap locks it down. you want to move your mouse smoothly and at a medium pace. not swinging the mouse around or at a snails pace

[@whitealpaca566]

to bad game can be played like this, i think its the reason it died

[@Zztp0p]

The reason it slowly dies is because new people bounce the fuck off when they see people do crazy shit they can’t perfect in less than 50 hours. It takes so much fucking time to at least be decent at Mordhau

[@carrotizgud9222]

@@Zztp0p dude there is no fucking way anyone is gonna spend time to learn how to read unreadable feints, stupid ass drags and meta accels with weapons

[@alexanderheller2039]

This should be nerfed and do like 10 damage

[@davidwestin6345]

yeah they need to add some sort of physics to the weapon where the damage is based on velocity, also make it so the flat hits do no damage so pickle would do very little because obviously the weapon is not going very fast in the opposite direction after putting effort into the first swing and cucumber would do nothing because it hits with the flat

[@ginyoshida6872]

Wtf this game has come down to lol 😂😭

[@nota1006]

Whats your DPI

[@Proxi_Ex]

how did you make it so the bot is not moving?

[@-........]

in a local match type 'open litemordhautestlevel' there will be a dummy you can control

[@Jarlaxle890]

nice guide thank

[@fredericm6207]

Ok now I understand how it's done. TBH I just need to know to used it back against try hards. Shit needs a fix.

[@jits2q127]

why is this possible lol

[@justpette1503]

Whats the point of doing these?

[@0Dozy]

u can't just hit ur opp coz he gonna block it

[@everytimewetouch]

see y’all on dans duels LA

[@hardboiled2987]

ewww

[@Krkrkrhf73]

i hate that mordhau is like this, like why tho? its almost impossible to parry it

[@401dRb]

just duck LOL all of these crazy broken anims are easy to footwork out of or just literally sitdown under

[@ArkhalisTheOne]

its spelled riposte >:D

[@spirited1611]

ur the reason i now spell riposte correctly , just watch any new video and "reposte" is now "riposte". tq good sir

[@Iwmar]

I know this is necro af but that pickle drag seems impossible to me. My dragging isn't as fluent as yours in here, I just can't make that move to the right after I swing my weapon above my opponents head. The sensitivity restriction while dragging prevents me from doing it.

[@calas5642]

Are you NA or EU

[@spirited1611]

Sam Fellows I’m Oceania

[@calas5642]

@@spirited1611 ahhhhh, well either way this video has taught me a fair bit, any chance you would make more drag tutorials

[@spirited1611]

@@calas5642 yes

[@calas5642]

@@spirited1611 would you ever do a recreation with tracers on in another video?

[@spirited1611]

@@calas5642 yeah sure, is there a spacific drag ur looking for?

[@eXtRaCtAdMiN]

LMAO the rainbow

[@SalvitaGG]

U INSANEEEEEEEEE aaaa

[@Dyatlov7778]

Wessex

[@machaelmus3843]

This is horsecrap! Mordhau was created to become what Chivalry couldn't -a medieval battle simulator that's as real as possible. The "pickle" drag is Chivalry BS and must be nerfed immediately.

[@ryanx9379]

and you think taking damage from sword slashes or stabs in plate armor is realistic?

[@Liam-ke2hv]

It was literally never made to be a simulator

[@chufflord]

How is it realistic this game has guns lmao

[@blastazoidgaming9144]

@@chufflord what a weak argument. you have to type it in console to get it and most people use it as a modtool to kill griefers. try harder because that was an ultra reach

[@chufflord]

@@blastazoidgaming9144 Sure! We can talk about the giants or squished firebomb throwers in horde mode, too :)

[@anthonybensemhoun6553]

That killed the game...

[@outhander3941]

Glad I'm out of this broken game

[@lounthery956]

just parry bruh

[@GerflinGrunglesnop]

shows clips of him farming noobs.

[@scorpikoshka7184]

Cucumber lul ))

[@ravenoushydra7948]

i dont really get what's so bad about these, I never really played chiv but I saw videos of it where people are literally beyblades, these exploits are a joke in comparison... not to mention they have never fazed me in combat before, if someone gets me with them then I know they are going for them, and it's very easy to avoid afterwards

[@thebeanqueen1669]

Wtf

[@arturogenso2224]

f = ma

[@L_Lawliet1907]

Newton's second law of motion

[@pandahsykes602]

Cucumber drags are just gay looking. Pickle drags shouldn’t hurt heavy armored opponents unless a blunt object is used , and if momentum is less than X amount said blunt weapon shouldn’t damage the opponent at all during a pickle . The devs have created a great game , but it’s far from realistic like everyone was touting in the beginning of its life cycle . Would love to see these janky movements have actual negatives that would be present in real life , but at least Mordhaus multiple steps above other combat games already ...

[@givebread8279]

Doesn’t work outside of offline

[@Tinkuwu]

Because the people you face are crouching?

[@givebread8279]

@@Tinkuwu no it literally doesnt work the drags cant be manipulated as much I've spent a good amount of time practising on afks and it is definitely harder if you use tracers. In offline I can do it with a 99% success rate but in online it is more like 10% and they are both standing still.

[@Tinkuwu]

@@givebread8279 Well, that's obviously a lie considering I just had someone consistently hit me with cucumbers unless I was crouching.

[@hazesociety7]

Broken game mechanic

[@MPHaddock]

omg this game is so shit no wonder it died a slow death until devs decided to throw it away for free

[@karlbjorn1831]

na terminology so bad

[@weebushegeebus6230]

thank you for ruining the game, and turning it into chiv 2

[@turtleman2443]

"waaah i suck waaaah"

[@TineaVer]

people like this should stop playing the game

[@pugnastyy2586]

they need to remove this

[@burns175u6]

This is cheating

[@Tinkuwu]

How?

[@Tinkuwu]

@@Erik-so9gh Can confirm that the devs intended for waterfalls and cucumbers to exist, they did not intend underhand wessex attacks, which were nerfed.

[@NTHR_DNKGaming]

Shit like this and the devs not giving a single fuck is why the games dead unfortunately