More Aircraft that Shouldn't be Added to War Thunder

[@theScottishKoala]

Hornet kinda borked now though ngl...

[@gunnutcase1234]

Now that hispanos don't really spark its amazing I honestly find it easier to get kills with than the f-82

[@stealthysaucepan2016]

Yeah now that it got it's br upped it now fights 7.0 jets too. Shame because it is one of my fav piston planes

[@Xiphactinus]

Speaking of that segment, maybe put Norway back into its previous position as a frequently occurring map?

[@jordandino417]

Borked? :/

[@7ThePrimagen]

also to be honest why does everybody beg about the ac 130. Why not the Douglas Ac 47 Spooky. it seems more practical and its an older plane which was the largest part of war thunder right?

[@MrSquigglies]

Why not have more AI bomber formations for interceptors and fighters to shoot at as objectives? And for player bombers to tuck into. Bonus points if player bombers spawn in as a bomber formation leader and the ai follows the player and bombs the objective.

[@masol3726]

Because war thunder is almost fun

[@johannbezuidenhout2976]

@@masol3726 Yip, can't make it fun for some players and not the rest. So we all have to almost have fun, it is the only way comrade.

[@pinngg6907]

Literally everyone dream It won't work

[@tizanikandothers]

It will be awesome

[@Christopher-rw2bp]

You can do that just fine in the war thunder campaigns and missions

[@blank141]

The AC130 could be a good april fools event, and will function like the nuke in game. Needing to acquire a certain SP to use it

[@BOTmaster15]

But why... It's not good idea, it wouldn't work at all i WT. Gunships work if enemy doesnt hava AA capabilities. Ac130 would go down in seconds after being deployed.

[@soto1649]

I have questions can ac130 fly above their missile range and help ground friendly?

[@blank141]

@@BOTmaster15 spawn it above 15km, theres no SPAA capable of reaching that high

[@nathanpatrick7094]

Would be bad ass it would be like COD death from above

[@blank141]

@@soto1649 don't think too hard about it, an april fools events is just that, an april fools event. An event meant for trolling around

[@cedjoe6]

If the Sk 60’s in game, I don’t see any problem with the Magister being added. Also keep in mind it would almost never reach its top speed and most 6.0+ props can catch it. And yes the AS.11 is a well known loadout option on both the Magister and Zéphyr, which was used for training for pilots that would later fire AS.12s and AS.30s on larger aircraft.

[@evanceier8577]

The sk.60 is much MUCH more well armed though.

[@cedjoe6]

@@evanceier8577 hence its higher BR yes. It’s also 15+ years younger than the magister.

[@evanceier8577]

@@cedjoe6 I'm saying that justifying the addition of one using the other doesn't make sense since they aren't actually comparable.

[@cedjoe6]

@@evanceier8577 they are though, since they’re the same type of aircraft, though they’re from two different eras. Both would end up facing much older jets so they can stay competitive.

[@evanceier8577]

@@cedjoe6 I'm sorry I just think your logic is flawed on this one. Agree to disagree?

[@DarthCody700]

The most British part of this video is your speed in km/hr and your altitude in feet.

[@oodlesofnoodles4660]

As far as I know all aviation has altitude in feet, airspeed in knots, and distance in nautical miles. The difference is to minimise potential confusion in radio comms.

[@CharliMorganMusic]

I can't understand why anyone would do this

[@CharliMorganMusic]

@@oodlesofnoodles4660 You know what's less confusing? METRIC

[@whocares4574]

@@CharliMorganMusic as if

[@sillylittleowlguy2392]

@@CharliMorganMusic we use knots, or nautical miles, since they are based on the circumference of the Earth. 360 degrees, take one degree, divide it by 60, good job, that’s a nautical mile. It simplifies navigation.

[@St.Matthew422]

I think F-117 wouldnt work because of Sim Battles, since there, you would need to take off, try to find an enemy and spot the F-117 with your primitive radar while trying to get a lock with either Infrared missiles or Radar lock ( which for planes like the MiG-21 would not work in the slightest ) probably the only ones able to get a suceful chance to down the F-117 would be modern SPAA like the Tunguska and Roland but even, the F-117 can just spawn at 4km of altitude and bomb them with guided bombs

[@moldypotato4656]

Or you could just shoot them down with guns. As far as I know jets are usually fitted with cannons that fire bullets and don't require a radar lock. The F117 is subsonic and would not be difficult to hit. Literally any SAM with manual guidance capabilities for their missiles could down an F117 as long as they can physically see it. The F117 also loses much of its radar deflecting capabilities while its bomb bay is open, allowing it to be locked on prior to dropping its ordnance.

[@nautical6825]

@I_Commission_DSPriscilla_Art in all fairness if you get used to the trajectory of the missle manual guiding isn't too hard. It's one of the ways to counter long range cas.

[@moldypotato4656]

@I_Commission_DSPriscilla_Art I hope you understand I'm talking about how easy it would be to shoot down an F117 in WT. In real life it was actually incredibly difficult and required a lot of prior planning in order to properly intercept one with a missile. In WT it really isn't difficult to hit a target at max range with manual guidance. At the very least the 2S6 has excellent thermals to help you guide your missile.

[@Excal111]

One of the primary weaknesses to radar stealth is that engines still produce heat, so planes with IRST or thermal sights could quite easily still pick it up. And as long as you've got guns on your plane the BR it'd be at would have to deal with planes that are just outright faster than it. Also, an extremely unusual shape would make it very easy to identify by sight. Radar lock is really the only thing that would have any issues with the 117, and even than the game has manual guidance that is far easier to manage than it would be in real life.

[@moldypotato4656]

@I_Commission_DSPriscilla_Art My comment was following up on the other comments regarding how Gaijin could implement the F117 into the game while making it balanced. Gaijin developers try to be realistic when adding new vehicles or features into the game, so if they were to make a stealth plane then they would probably refine their radar code and use that as a balancing factor, ie the bomb bay disrupting the F117s stealth.

[@justarandomtechpriest1578]

You failed to mention that the a10 carries a LOT of countermeasures

[@LeMeowAu]

Wait what countermeasures?

[@unepintade]

so does the jaguar A, but it's a very bad aircraft

[@justarandomtechpriest1578]

​@@LeMeowAuchaff+flares

[@the23rdradiotower41]

I wonder if they’ll ever add trainer aircraft for tutorials and maybe a specialized training battle type or maybe an event almost like top gun. Id also love to see observation aircraft as-well maybe to mark targets and giving 3rd person bomb sights for bombers in RB if an observation aircraft is near the target, this could also allow for large tactical bombers like the Peacemaker and B-52. Idk could be something pretty interesting.

[@DecidedlyNinja]

I like the idea of the A-10 and F-117 being added, for novelty and cool factor alone. Though I imagine that the A-10 will be a fiery deathtrap like every aircraft of mid-tier and above.

[@v0id683]

and then people will whine about it how easy it is to kill the A-10 despite the fact that in real life it eats shit too lmao

[@mr.mercuryidk3757]

@@v0id683 took 18 sams

[@v0id683]

@@mr.mercuryidk3757 source?

[@mr.mercuryidk3757]

@@v0id683 look it up lmao, they weren’t insanely modern but they weren’t completely obsolete, it was either in Kuwait in 1991 or in Iraq in 1999

[@v0id683]

@@mr.mercuryidk3757 "look it up lmao" isn't an source

[@ghostmw8]

Well if they have nuke on ground rb already then they can add the AC-130 as a kill streak I guess? I think the howitzer with overpressure can actually meme a lot of tanks especially NATO tanks with all the flat top design, but then again it was suppose to be operating under total air superiority so it just a giant ass target for all the SPAA and planes.

[@Caktusdud.]

The a10 is an interesting one, I've gone back and forth on both ends of the spectrum. At this point all I want to say is, add it and see what happens. We won't know if we don't try.

[@CharliMorganMusic]

It'll struggle at 5.0 and above. Hilariously bad against even early monoplanes.

[@theholypeanut8193]

@@CharliMorganMusic Well you can't expect a bomber win in a dogfight against a fighter now can't you?

[@honeybadgeractual5734]

For sit screen multi-player id do it only ONE way. Each player takes up a ROLE in the main player vehicle, single crew vehicles have this option disabled, and cannot be added to the vehicle list if you have a co player, OR you cannot add a co player to the console or PC without removing the craft first. Id also limit it off arcade battles, being only available in RB, naval, air, and ground. And actually encouraged in simulation mode.

[@peterhilligoss5697]

The AC-130 could most certainly take out even the heaviest tanks even at top tier with its 105 howitzer. The M102 105mm howitzer fires a 15 Kg high explosive round. As an upgrade you could even have the m119 105mm Howitzer as a replacement. The m119 has ammunition with different uses. Such as HE, smoke(for "teamwork"), a round that scatters grenades in a large area and so on.

[@firestarteronyoutube5542]

One slight problem with this. No doubt it would have to be a highish BR (later variants could carry Laser Guided weaponry), and it is a big target. Two factors that as well as being slow, would get it killed easily.

[@fatford4209]

I’ve said the same thing about the AC-130, the only way it could work is if the pilot kept the plane flying in circles when you’re on the guns, and even at that it’d just get destroyed by planes because it has no defenses besides flares

[@l.bakker7563]

I was one of the people who begged against the introduction of a Foxbat. It's overall flight performance is the reason why. The subsonic speeds at deck is horrible for a vehicle with that kind of armament, making it the meta playstyle to climb until you can get an energy advantage over your enemies. Kind of similar to how frustrating a Yak-38 is since it has poor flight performance for its BR but amazing armament.

[@theScottishKoala]

Thing is, the MiG-25 succeeds where the Yak-28 fails - keeping its enemies at arm's reach. The MiG-25 has no need to dogfight you if it can kill you with an R-40 from 25km away, but the Yak-38, in order to accomplish anything, HAS to get around onto your six for a close-range missile shot

[@l.bakker7563]

@@theScottishKoala So isn't that what I said? As long as the Yak-38 gets behind you, which is very easy to do with an airspawn especially in a downtier it's a done deal except when it engages with you in any other way(dogfight, headon, etc.) it starts to diminish compared to other planes. But it sits at a BR of 9.3 because of it's poor flight performance. My point with the MiG-25 is that if it engages with an enemy any other than way than long range missile sniping it diminishes even compared to 10.0 aircraft which is why it will probably end up way undertiered compared to it's actual armament performance, just like the Yak-38

[@miquelescribanoivars5049]

MiG-25 wasn't really subsonic near sea level. It was operationally restricted in early service due to several accidents, but the restrictions were eventually lifted and its actual VnE was 1,300 km/h, which isn't great but still matches the MiG-21.

[@the23rdradiotower41]

Having refueler missions would be pretty sweet, maybe instead of capturing or destroying a point your mission could be to escort a KC-46 or DC-4 through a battle. IDK how accurate this could be but you could have a vulnerable refueler aircraft fr each team in higher BRs that could refuel, rearm and maybe repair jets.

[@jacobb17]

Spookston: Subnautica Music theScottishKoala: Skyrim Music

[@IronPhysik]

you again make the "timetravel" argument while ignoring several planes that already do, including the F4U-7 thats from 1965 in the version we have it and that fights WW2 planes

[@theScottishKoala]

F4U-7 is just a variant of a World War 2 aircraft that happened to be USED into the 60's... same deal with the A-1 Skyraider. Completely different situation to the Pucara. Which is a completely new aircraft, ANOTHER ten years newer, yet would be an even LOWER br (around the 5.0 range max). If you can't see a difference there I don't know what to say. The Sk60b as another example... I just think needs a br raise, as having those two guided AGM's at 7.3 is kinda broken, and raising it to 8.0 it wouldn't really be out of time anymore

[@justarandomtechpriest1578]

@@theScottishKoala the a1 is post ww2 I thought?

[@IronPhysik]

@@theScottishKoala A-1 skyraider is not a WW2 aircraft while yes, its prototype the YBT2D was build during WW2 it still took a while for the finished plane to materialize itself in the early 50s with the AD-1 (A-1A) F4U-7 also is not a WW2 aircraft, as it does share barely any parts of original WW2 corsairs. also, what about the BE-6? its a 1950s aircraft at BR 5.0 or so

[@theScottishKoala]

@@IronPhysik Skyraider is a WW2 vehicle as much as for example the IS-3 is a WW2 vehicle - it entered service just after, but it’s very much a WW2 design. As for the Corsair… it’s still fundamentally a WW2 aircraft - it’s just another F4U Corsair. Whether it shares commonality with the models built during the war is irrelevant. As for the Be-6, I feel like it could do with a br raise just to keep it more in line, but at the same time it’s already not that useful (I’ve said the same in the past about the PT-76 for example). HOWEVER, there’s a big difference between a bomber from the 50’s fighting WW2 aircraft, and a counter-insurgency aircraft from the mid to late 70’s…

[@IronPhysik]

@@theScottishKoala holy shit no the late models of the 2 aircraft are absolutely not WW2 aircraft the A-1 entered service after WW2 in 1946 and was quickly upgraded with modern tech to stay relevant it is not and never was a WW2 aircaft nor design, because its WW2 "prototype" has VERY LITTLE in common with the serial A-1 models saying that a AD-6 (A-1H) or AD-7 (A-1J) are WW2 birds is utterly stupid, because they feature stuff like ejection seats, modern 14 and 30" bomb racks and a low attack bomb sight in the AD-7... next, the F4U-7 is also not a WW2 corsair as it is using AU-1 airframes, the AU-1 was a redesign of the corsair and saw lots of changes to it, the F4U-7 then took that AU-1 frame and replaced the original engine with a more capable one. its exactly like the relationship between F-8 and A-7 or are you saying these 2 are also the same aircraft?

[@brettwilliams7134]

You should do a list of planes that would be interesting to add to war thunder for jet game play and possibly even a video of possible add in planes and how they would extend br tiers or modify the current br

[@honkhonk8009]

AC-130 would be on wiesel/r3 cleanup duty lmfao. I think it has massive potential in the game. You know how the AH-64 automatically adjusts for bullet drop when firing its autocannon from the gunner view? The AC-130 does the same with its howitzers and bofors. It would be basically just a helicopter. It would be a great addon.

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

I actually agree about the AC-130. Even the US military acknowledges that it's only really usable at night against forces with few AAA or fighter defenses.

[@gamingrex2930]

If the AC-130 ever gets added, it must be only AI controlled. We've seen how fucking powerful CAS is, now imagine an airborne KV-2.

[@theScottishKoala]

We have the 102mm gun on the P.108... ... completely useless.

[@rainbo.8156]

I think they should add modes called 'all out war aracde' and 'all out war realistic' which is a mode with aircraft ground vehicles ships and perhaps infantry on a large map. aswell as the ability for ac-130s c-130 and kc-130s to be used

[@kavvi9605]

ac130 could only be in the game if there weren´t active spaa´s everywhere on the game, if u use the plane, u are a freakin lucky guy if u manage to get out of ur airfield and on place to land fire on the enemies, but if u get 1 kill he will definetly spawn on spaa and easily kill you, which makes the purpose of this vehicle as useless as an apache flying on a desert against a multitude of nearby spaa´s that can cover everytime they want while they all know where you are.

[@mosesracal6758]

With your insistence with the OV-10, Im surprised you made no mention of the Super Tucanos

[@LeadFollower551]

15:43 the MLD can actually use 1xR-24R and 1xR-24T in the same loadout, it was already passed to the devs for consideration

[@theScottishKoala]

Yes, in fact it was the standard load out, but it can’t in game, at least currently. The MiG-25 however could carry two of each in symmetrical load outs, so it would already be able to in game.

[@LeadFollower551]

@@theScottishKoala indeed

[@rocket_sensha4337]

I need to jump the sword in defense of the pucara "not having a place". It looks and performs not much diferent than ww2 planes it shares body plan with. Its as anochronistic as the hordes of postwar planes in mid tiers facing late ww2 ones. On in its ordenace section, other variants not only had better main armaments it ALSO carried guided ordenance . Namely matra magics and martin pescador air to surface missiles.

[@risu6894]

I can agree, add the MiG-25 to the game so my 104S can outturn something also some recommendations for Italian Aircraft that could be added if you do make a part 3: the G.91 R/1B, Ambrosini SS.4, SAI.207, and SAI.403. All are somewhat interesting and could breathe life into the Italian ground attack and fighter lines.

[@1nv15BL3]

Italian Bomber line: hey.

[@risu6894]

@@1nv15BL3 what, the worst bomber line in the game?

[@1nv15BL3]

@@risu6894 Yeah, I'm saying we need to add new bombers, not fighters.

[@cb6733]

The most accurate statement to come out of a WT video yet: "If a SAM looks at you, you die."

[@hgrueber38]

I think they should add a group of vehicles which are not from a "tech tree". For the pucara it could be unlocked if you reach a certain point in the french tree, but it would still be a video from Argentina.

[@superiorbear6382]

130*exist* Us: BRRRRRRRRRRRT

[@silvergemteam]

First one hit me like a freight train

[@smolwavingsnail9028]

i legit thought i had skyrim open XD i was like eh where's the skyrim music coming from. dammit koala

[@Carolean]

i love that you used skyrim adventure music as background music

[@Insanerobert44]

If I had to choose between Magister and AlphaJet to be in a game update, I would definitely choose the AlphaJet since it actually has better ordnance options.

[@Insanerobert44]

As for AC-130, I would love to see it in-game as well but I agree on the fact that it would be really hard to ballance it in BR without pissing off the players or making it hard to ballance in-game. Before adding this however, I would prefer to see a gunner mechanic similar to ships, where you can choose gunners to track and shoot either ground targets, air targets or both. We actually have bombers in-game capable of this that actually had turrets with guns+ammo intended for ground strafing, like the forward 20mm cannon on He.111 or on Ki-49s. Catalina as well could engage light targets with it's side 12.7mm turrets and other patrol boats as well, not to mention the newly-added Shakleton with it's dedicated front turret for ground strafe role. This would also encourage bombers to fly lower in Air RB and other modes since this would allow them to engage soft targets when the bomb bay is empty and would greatly increase the usefullness of Light Bomber roles as well, also reducing the reason why bomber players would choose to space-climb to avoid enemies since they can actually do something at ground level. Also, the gunners nerf was not needed, for 3+ years the bomber gunners will not shoot and engage enemies unless they're 2-300m away from the plane by themselves - even if the crew level is maxed out. Fighter pilots became lazy because of this and will not even try to engage a bomber properly, complaining why they got shot down behind a bomber while flying in the so-called "dead-zone" where the rear gunners are usually the most effective at defending the bombers.

[@Evans7274]

well, the ac-130 might actually be possible, i mean these days, drones have auto circle, helis have ballistic computers, why not add it?

[@rocketremity9571]

Sometime ago Spookston made a video about the best ground techtrees and i am curious about the best air ones

[@benhawke7231]

What about the A6 intruder? One of the most important airplanes of aircraft history.

[@flynntaggart8549]

my reasoning as to why i don't think the mig25 could be added to the game is that it would simply suck too much, so i was very surprised your argument defending the idea of adding it tot the game was that it wouldn't be too op. i think it would be similar to the problem the f104's have, where they simply can't be put at a low enough br to be competitive without their top speed leaving everyone in the dust and thus being annoying to fight.

[@Tempelers]

I feel like the B-1 would be way too OP to even add to the game.

[@joshuarushold]

if they added the ac-130 they would have to add a new game mode for just ground attack where only one team only vs AI ground, though this would be a good game mode for bombers sense how bad bombers preform in standard air battles

[@schroedingersmisanthrop8195]

I kinda would love to see the B-2. Not as a normal bomber, maybe as a skin or alternativ for the normal nuke bomber.

[@theScottishKoala]

It could be done, but that's a lot of time and effort put in for the very rare case of a nuke bomber which they obviously can't monetize... Gaijin would at least want to use it as an AI in regular air battles as well, just to get their money's worth out of modelling the damn thing! Honestly, I don't think we'll ever get dedicated aircraft for our nuclear bombers, just the Jaguars and such we have already

[@a_gloriouspotato1967]

Some stuff like B52, Tu-95 or AC-130 could be added as AI target for new game mode IF only we have new game mode :\

[@sniperh2o325]

depending on the ordance, the A10 would really be balanced at around 9.7-10.3 imo. its pretty slow making higher tier SAMs quite lethal excluding if it has an ECM pod which currently doesnt exist. or if it gets weaker ordance thats around equal to current weaponry than i think itd be fine at 9.7. in air RB itd be a flying target as to be expected, but carries some good AAMs and can be tanky (to like thatd matter against adens or cannons) and in ground RB its effectiveness will shine greatly. in general i think the A10 can fit really snuggly into current WT

[@theScottishKoala]

It carries Mavericks, Paveways and AIM-9M's... no way in hell it fits below 11.0

[@sniperh2o325]

@@theScottishKoala depends on what kind of stuff itd get :p, if it gets current era stuff as in modern stuff, yea 11.0, but if it gets the best we currently have in wt, i doubt itd be to big of a threat due to its speed. i mean, id perfer the F4E with its mavericks due to the f4s superior speed and at best rn the A10 would get 9Ls for air to air. and im not 100% sure but i think the A7D would also be a better dogfighter as well. for specific roles we already have things thats better without the A10 bringing its own modern toys into the equation

[@theScottishKoala]

@@sniperh2o325 thing is you’re looking at six Mavericks (at LEAST AGM-65B models), PLUS two AIM-9L’s or M’s which are incredibly good compared to anything we currently have on our aircraft, PLUS the 30mm gun with 150mm penetration… and even a couple hardpoints left over for Paveways. That combination of so much ground attack potential at the same time is what’ll make it an 11.0, despite being slower than a Corsair. You’ll also have a MAWS which none of our current aircraft have, a thermal sight if it gets AGM-65D’s, and once you get rid of that ordnance it will actually out dogfight an A-7 or even potentially a MiG-21. Any of those factors individually and yeah it’d fit at 10.0 ish, but all of them at the same time? That’s enough to justify 11.0 if not 11.3 (With some other top tier aircraft like the Viggen or MiG-23MLD moving up there too)

[@sniperh2o325]

@@theScottishKoala ya know what, fair lmao. tho even tho 9Ls is most likely the worst thing the A10 cn carry IRL i doubt itd get anything better than a all aspect 9P due to how air combat currently is. 9Ls on any jet, even an A10, has a high possibility to crumble top tier jets more than it already is lol. kind of like the BIS situation with its R60M's

[@Skim_beeble7125]

if they get a A-10 right it will be able to take a top tier sam or 2 and still go land back at base plus 4th gen fighters are coming this year im newish grinding my ass for to get to top tier

[@shadowstar8482]

The SU 25K would be like the a-10 it could work aswell

[@twisted_fo0l]

What would make the Nighthawk competitive would be its stealth

[@TheDoctorMD]

The Spooky might not be viable, what about the AC-130J Ghostrider II with Hellfires, SDBs, Griffins, and Viper Strike bombs?

[@theScottishKoala]

That just forces an even higher br, making it even more useless against the types of targets it'll face. Try taking out the Tu-4 or B-29 for close-in runs in ground battles and you'll see what I mean. An AC-130 would already have to be around the 8.0 range in order to have the light tanks to actually kill, one with Hellfires/Griffins would be more like 9.7! AC-130 would never be used in a near-peer engagement, which is exactly what we have in War Thunder. It's just not a suitable aircraft type for the game

[@sralbert2534]

I think it's interesting to have a new q-5 for the Chinese lily, like the punch pack with ballistic computer and guided bomb

[@thechickenfarmer9741]

If submarines and modern naval ever become a thing in war thunder(i think they will be a thing in the future), i would see the P-3 Orion as a possible aircraft in war thunder. It could carry mavericks and harpoons, bombs and torpedoes and naval mines. Although It would suffer from being really slow, in ground and naval RB having the range of the missiles could help it to evade cannon spaa fire. SAMs? Would probably just die to them, and thus be hard to balance. What do you think?

[@fishmansf4]

What do you think about the he 111z (bomber variant)? I think it would be super cool but I'm not sure if it would work in the game.

[@DrSmallarms]

My guess is the Mig-25 could work but the Mig-31 could not

[@dosidicusgigas1376]

Im just waiting for the B1 Lancer with 2 30mm Vulcans duct taped to the wings and instead of bombs in the rotary launcher just load it up with missles

[@owl8074]

16:11 hi, im from the future, and yeah they added the a-10 lol

[@nicoferguson1215]

I've got one- the B-36 Peacemaker

[@theScottishKoala]

We covered the B-52 and Tu-95 in the last episode, I feel like that extends to the Peacemaker too, in fact I might have included it at the time as well

[@nicoferguson1215]

@@theScottishKoala ah, ok..... It's still a interesting aircraft, ya gotta admit

[@matthalo871]

I don't know about the AC-130 if it's the J model then no matter how hard you try to run you're just going to die tired plus it's a chaff and flare monster it has the room for it.

[@theScottishKoala]

None of the AC-130 models really fit. They certainly wouldn’t be overpowered - there are IFV’s they’d struggle to kill even in perfect conditions!

[@tommono1]

I mean just fix the BRs to historical accuracy. I think its a bit sad that planes that were historically really pretty good are matched up against more sophisticated planes from later eras. Also why not add infantry AI to Air RB. its not as if there arent any ground units there anyway. Having a proper ground war with actual mission objectives would make the ground part more interesting and would perhaps enable CAS/Strike planes to actually do CAS and Stirke in Air RB. That being said, probably that would be quite difficult. But one thought i always had was why bombers dont have an AI formation that follows them where ever they go? Then Bombers would finally make some sense away from fighter food

[@RazgrizRaptor]

I'm in agreement with you on this list you've created. I'd love to see the F-117 enter the game, I don't think it'd be OP or underpowered, just unique. the AC-130 feels like it's in the same area as the A-10 where it's too famous to give a miss. I'm sure they could get it to work in a modified version of the autopilot that can take control of a bomber while the player is using the guns. I think in a twist of irony, it'd do better for killing at an 8 BR, but the AA would chew it apart should they not be targeted first by the gunship. the gunship's survival might be higher vs the more modern AA systems, due to them depending on missiles and its spectacular-looking flair launches. I'm also awaiting the A-10 because I don't think it'd be overpowered or underpowered. I figure that its legendary durability will be more "luck" than anything else. sure there are stories of it flying home with half a wing missing, but I doubt many pilots will have those tales due to how aggressive players are. USAF pilots have to do things in a very particular manner, not just dive down at 70 degrees firing rockets and missiles. I don't know WT as good as you do, but I'd like to believe the B-2 spirit would work in-game too, the same thing as the F-117 (can't be locked onto via missiles and SAMs would have extreme difficulty locking onto it), just 10 times the payload. I can't remember if it was on the first list, but I'm gonna mention it here. these aircraft I'd love to see enter the game, but I feel like in one manner or another, they're just not right for the game yet. -the B-1B Lancer: unarmed besides the 70,000lbs of bombs, the bomber is capable of supersonic speeds on the deck, making it difficult to intercept and shoot down until it's forced to turn. it might work, but I feel like in one way or another it might be too powerful, mainly on maps where bombers can attack the AFB. but it'd still be fun to drop a string of bombs on some tanks at Mach 1, a flash of darkness followed by a bunch of flashes and booms. -F-15C: the aircraft is technically unrivaled in its ability to engage and kill threats, AIM-120 ARAAMS would make it able to reach out and strike before any other aircraft even had a chance and even destroy them during takeoff if they're late to the fight. and while most would say its durability is "can fly on one wing" I'm not sure that'd be true if the aircraft is suffering from combat damage such as the loss of an engine or part of the tail, but in practice, it does mean some lucky pilots will get to be Solo Wing Pixys. lol

[@theScottishKoala]

Keep in mind though that the vast majority of SAMs don't give a toss about flares (or chaff at that close a range)

[@RazgrizRaptor]

@@theScottishKoala oh, I didn't know that. I'm still grinding up to 11.0 on the ground. I'm still at 9.3 (8.0 AA wise). Lol

[@kevinvargas2847]

I just would love to see the ha1112. The Spanish Air Force made with the fuselage of a bf109 and the guns and engine of a Spitfire…I just hope they make a new tech tree for Spain and don’t add it as a premium.

[@theScottishKoala]

Nothing really to make up a Spanish tree. Likely as not any Spanish aircraft will come as premium, event, squadron or battle pass vehicles

[@kevinvargas2847]

I guess I will have to trust in the modders community to make my dream come true then. I just love it’s oddly satisfying look. I wouldn’t care if it wasn’t that useful with only a pair of Hispanos.

[@ineverexist666]

If the A10 can work than the SU-25 also will so far i know the su 25 is faster, i mean its not quiet as fast as the A7D around roughly 200 kph

[@honeybadgeractual5734]

Split screen multi-player again, I would advise against allowing it to be used over the internet, as that would require a lot more work than just splitting actions to views and weapons systems across different controls, then allowing those views to be sit across different screens, or split on one main screen like old console games.

[@JustMinna]

So regarding the AC-130... It could have the ability to "Lock on" to targets using a camera similar to the one for aiming the mavericks and then the pilot could simple press the main armament fire buttons and the aircraft would open fire. Another way would be a gunner view that would allow locking on to targets which could also be used on vehicles like the Tu-4 for which it could instead lock onto aircraft making its guns even more effective

[@Creeperboy099]

The thumbnail is exactly what I thought

[@spartanx9293]

I have an aircraft I'd like to be added but probably won't be the super tiger preferably tech treed because I never got access to the original f11f

[@theScottishKoala]

They’re not going to put the Super Tiger in the tech tree, OR as a premium even, when the actual service model was made an event vehicle

[@spartanx9293]

@@theScottishKoala I know I just wish they put one in that wasn't event based I can't bring myself to grind through those events I don't really even want it as an actual fighter I wanted it as a collector's piece and before you tell me to buy it from the marketplace I can't my account was originally based off console and I don't feel like restarting just for the sake of one plane

[@colbyarbar]

I like the Elderscrolls music in the background. XD

[@A_1_S]

I don't see the problem with the IA58, its not really diferen't from a skyrider, aside from the war pariod and the fact that it will be hard to classify in what tech tree should be, grettings.

[@theScottishKoala]

It would have to be German - problem is it's 20 years more modern than the Skyraider, with half the armament

[@___axg96___63]

I'm just a fanboy who lives up the road from the original site of Republic Aviation's manufacturing plant, but I still don't see why the A-10 wouldn't work in game. Yeah it's not as fast as other planes, but who cares? It has good tech, good armament, and it's durable. It could definitely work! Dear Gaijin, Give us the BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT!

[@alexbevan2517]

Skyrim theme song playing in the background, I like this 😎

[@owenkegg5608]

All I want for Christmas is the aardvark.

[@rotoface5469]

Stealth does not mean invisible to radar it just takes longer to lock on to

[@theScottishKoala]

It's nothing to do with how LONG it takes, it's about from what angles and ranges the radar can get a return. To our aircraft radar though, the F-117 would be completely invisible. To our ground radar... not so much, but it would still require the right angles and semi-close-ranges

[@sabro5752]

The Welkin was already in the game files so it's definitely going to appear

[@dr.pop2562]

hey theScotishKoala im having trouble with the gided bombs from the French Jaguar A

[@Phos9]

I suspect the distrust of adding the MiG-25/31 is due to Ace Combat, where the comparatively limited effectiveness of air to air missiles means that the MiG-31 can just ruin the game for everyone else.

[@A54729]

They should add the A-6 Intruder and the EA-6B as a premium.

[@theScottishKoala]

EA-6 doesn’t make a lot of sense to add, but the A-6 itself will definitely be coming soon

[@Prime2112]

Thank you for the excellent video! Cheers!

[@schaab7203]

Its strange thinking that in the future, no new vehicles are going to be added

[@kevincho1187]

After getting the 17 and 19, mig 25 isnt that bad.... but I would prefer adding another plane to the Yak line first before the 25

[@theScottishKoala]

I’m sure we’ll get Yak-41 at some point with R-60M’s

[@kevincho1187]

@@theScottishKoala Yeah I always wondered why they didnt make 41 first since the 38 was a demonsttrator for VTOL aircraft for the Soviets that got pushed into service. The 141 was meant to be the actual soviet attempt at vtol aircraft

[@theScottishKoala]

@@kevincho1187 Because the Yak-38 actually served, and the Yak-41 did not..?

[@kevincho1187]

@@theScottishKoala I mean that hasnt stopped gaijin, the LA 200 is mostly better than the LA15 yet its in the tech tree despite the fact it didnt see adoption. I mean I get it. but it's wierd seeing the Yak 38 with it being an expensive paperweight being passed over Russia's meant to be VTOL. But if they add the 141 I hope maybe the harrier line get the P1154 and the french get the Mirage IIIV

[@typicalraptor6463]

Skyrim music is so nostalgic. Especially on the 10th anniversary.

[@noelmoreno5879]

The AC 130 would be free food even for ifv, the bmp2 could easily take it down without much trouble

[@codeunbreakable2791]

I'm going back playing Warthunder if they add the A10 Warthog

[@TinyBearTim]

Add the foxbat the ultimate boom and zoom

[@foundationgamer9771]

This earned my subscription

[@patrickwelch365]

The nighthawk would be nice if it had scouting ability’s and a thermal pod

[@ap-dk5yw]

Then on the next update we will have a belkan strike wryven as a 13.0 premium.

[@hollismcgrail5129]

Koala do you think the YB-35/YB-49 could be added?

[@kaydencenight2420]

And here we are. A-10 was added. Or well, being added

[@moronibragarenzen5899]

i think the ac 130 would be cool as like a atrillery for mbt's

[@jezuznevweraz8800]

Huh not a bad idea

[@hihio5]

So kind of like a call in AI controlled vehicle

[@wireworks4252]

That would be a great feature since an SPAA could shoot it down and stop the artillery strike from happening.

[@three_strike175]

Imagine it dropping you off when you spawn in a MBT

[@ryangoslingIRL]

Yeah true like the Arcade battles aircraft callin where you need a specific amount of kills to get it

[@jesusofbullets]

The F-117 being difficult to lock onto for SAMs could actually help with the SAM AA spam we see a lot, because then people would instead start using ballistic AA more rather than missiles.

[@last_dutch_hero258]

The thing with both the Su-25 frogfoot and the A-10 thunderbolt is that they would actually fit in pretty well. Yes they would be sitting ducks in air RB but in ground battles i can see them working. I would however keep away those high-end missles purely to keep it slightly more balanced, we playing a game aftherall, it’s supposed to be fun, not 100% real life!

[@quartzlandaker5664]

It would actually be fine with 50km ranged ground attack missiles, an enemy plane or even some sam's could still kill it

[@polkka7797]

I’d be happy just hearing that 30mm in game tbf

[@jaek_898]

Yeah, it wouldn't be able to have AIM9Ls. Its flight performance is worthy of 6.7, AIM9Ls are top tier missiles. It would HAVE to be top tier for air RB if it carried AIM9Ls. Anything lower than 11.0 and it would face too many enemies that don't have flares.

[@arandomcommenter412]

What? If your at 9.0 or whatever the hell you think it’s fun? No way in hell.

[@NathamelCamel]

I could see the A model of it being added with its poor electronics and spotting systems but in general, despite what "the reformers" might tell you, it's not a good plane and one of the only reasons its still operational today is because insurgents don't have tunguskas

[@captaincluck2451]

Honestly, I would be in favor of the AC-130 being implemented as an artillery style call-in. If there were multiple call-in options, with their own pros and cons, I think it could work well.

[@CharliMorganMusic]

Worked for CoD

[@TriCop]

@@CharliMorganMusic Yeah cause call of duty is an infantry game not a veichle game lmfao

[@personthing88]

Exactly like imagine you could choose from heavy arty with a long reload or light arty with short reload. Long range arty and short range arty In fact for BR 5.0+ the Schwerer Gustav that one German can call once a game.

[@TriCop]

@@personthing88 They already did something like that but removed it

[@andrewfortunato5086]

Yeah I feel like if they did something along the lines of what insurgency sandstorm does, then it’d be a lot more fun than “press 5 and wait for a mark”

[@Beowulf_DW]

Love the Skyrim OST in the background. Makes me nostalgic. Maybe too nostalgic. I’d better see about finally getting breath of the wild before I start another stealth archer play through.

[@theScottishKoala]

Ten years yesterday since that glorious piece of history released.... wow how time flies

[@rukinaa]

@@theScottishKoala they even released a new anniversary edition! Time to get back at it again

[@ra7238]

@@rukinaa I swear if Bethesda release another version of the Skyrim edition I’ll lose my sh*t I’ve been playing that game for a decade now patiently waiting for them to release the next elder scrolls chapter

[@rukinaa]

@@ra7238 I know, I was hoping for a new elder scrolls game aswell! Sadly that did not happen… fingers crossed we get one soon!

[@TheYouTubeCommentor]

I'm a bit late, but I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed it!

[@wolfbyte3171]

Still waiting for the B-26 Marauder. You know, a bomber produced in the thousands? It'd also be neat to see the F-111, unless you already talked about that and I forgot

[@theScottishKoala]

Honestly crazy that it still isn't here. I'm more interested in seeing the B-23 Dragon though, if for no other reason than IT'S CALLED THE FKN DRAGON!!!

[@sawyerawr5783]

@@theScottishKoala the B-26 and the B-24J have been planes I've been arguing for basically since I started playing this game back in beta. It kind of boggles my mind that the J model B-24, aka the most iconic variant (and I think the most produced?) still isn't in game. even if it's a foldered vehicle, I feel like its worth having.

[@cristobalalvarez5491]

@@theScottishKoala dude the f111 actually carried 6 aim 54 or commonly known as the Phoenix missiles

[@theScottishKoala]

@@cristobalalvarez5491 No, the prototype F-111B which was the failed naval version was supposed to carry these missiles, but none of the production variants ever did

[@theScottishKoala]

@I_Commission_DSPriscilla_Art you know… I wouldn’t put it past em

[@DominusRexDK]

When, and i do mean WHEN, the A-10 comes, i suspect that 1 of two things will happen. either 1) the community will be annoyed because its cannon does not live up to its legendary status as a tank buster or 2) the cannon will be overpowered compared to reality due to the fame. I know which one I would i would prefer.

[@puesvale7348]

3)is useless because it gets easily killed by AA guns and other planes

[@DarthCody700]

It had like 90 pen right? That's probably what it will be and that will be decent. The things that will make it hard to balance are the 8 Mavericks and late sidewinders.

[@tiznaeshnishto2584]

@@DarthCody700 Pretty sure the way the gun worked is that it focused a shitton of 30mm shells into one area, overloading it and eventually breaking through said armor

[@Doomsgate]

@@tiznaeshnishto2584 in an area of 40ft is saturated in the 30mm shells plus light vehicles are just gone from one short burst and being able to slap MBTs from the side is going to be fun

[@theScottishKoala]

@@DarthCody700 try 150mm with DU APFSDS rounds. Hell, the GAU-13 pods on the A-7 have over 100mm, and the A-10 obviously has quite a bit more

[@ryanfreeman5083]

I do think the MIG-25PD could be added at 11.0, it would be a neat missile platform, I really want to try the R-40s lol. edit: Paveways are already in game, they are on the Jaguar GR.1A, just with the british designation.

[@Doomsgate]

Yeah I think people would think it’s fast speed would save it from its poor maneuverability, while in reality it takes forever to get up to speed at low alts

[@pancake5830]

maybe not the 25 considering it doesnt have a gun, i think the mig 31 would be a better choice

[@Doomsgate]

@@pancake5830 Didn’t know it had no gun

[@reillybrangan2182]

@@pancake5830 The 31 is a huge step from the 25. That would include simultaneous attack with 4 missiles each with 160km ranges, the only potential counter would be an F-14, which brings the same capability but with 6 shot simulatenous attack. Both aircraft would completely ruin the balance for other aircraft which could not hope to counter their range without much more modern weapons.

[@pancake5830]

@@reillybrangan2182 keep in mind that the mig 31 weighs 21820kg vs the f14 that weighs over 3 tons less and has moving wings, which makes it an incredibly strong dogfighter whilst still having a top speed of mach 2.34. in dcs for example (a very realistic flight sim with modern fighters) the f14 is one of the best dogfighters in the game

[@valentinodestefano6307]

I think that the Pucara could be added to the game, since there are already turboprop planes like the wyvern and the A2D1, rather the Pucara for Germany, France or Great Britain would be a very good addition, because its firepower is not exaggerated. and its load is very good without becoming too much for an acceptable br, also its speed is high but not much, rather I dare to say that the wyvern is faster, if they put it a good br it would be 5.3, 5.7. Already if they put the missiles like the Martin Pescador or the guided bombs Dardo II, it would have to have a higher br of 6.0 up, obvious without exaggeration

[@OtterMusician]

Interestingly enough, the Pucara was just discovered in datamining for the Winged Lions 1st dev server.

[@grahaldmills5930]

Gaijin probs leaked it on purpose for him xD

[@brightspark8052]

So the Welken being added would be like real life? Good against high altitude planes but by the time it was introduced/ added to game there was less high altitude planes?

[@ShadowSnipe88]

Crucified no. Me politely disagreeing with your opinion on the AC 130 yes.

[@WTCheatShaming]

Explain then

[@spartanx9293]

I'm sorry but he's right what exactly are you going to do with it if you take it into air battles you'll be killed easily

[@schaab7203]

Explain your point

[@tundefilmsproduction7726]

It coupe balanced in air and if it was added it would be either the worst or best cas aircraft in the entire game and could break the game in mixed battles or be the worst in the game

[@schaab7203]

@@tundefilmsproduction7726 worse, its a support aircraft, its a easy target

[@teatanks6481]

I've always imagined the AC-130 performing as a kind of Scorestreak, in-between Lineup vehicles and the Nuclear Bomber. Limited time usage as it circles around the battlefield, first arriving around 7.7 maybe.

[@toyikaoo108]

12:30 who else was listening to the Skyrim Soundtrack in the background