More London Streets in the 1960s

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lesbastides

lesbastides

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@bertiewooster3326
@bertiewooster3326 2 жыл бұрын
Actually London today has saved me a fortune in travel costs....Instead of travelling the world to see different cultures I can now see the whole world in London including even a few English speakers.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 2 жыл бұрын
Not the same. There's no identity that way. Homogenisation is a living death.
@bertiewooster3326
@bertiewooster3326 2 жыл бұрын
@@gorillachilla Nah mate red.
@JanetJames-dw6xo
@JanetJames-dw6xo Жыл бұрын
It's just a shame that they are not tourists. We are stuck with them.
@goonerone-z2h
@goonerone-z2h 11 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂
@christoph404
@christoph404 8 жыл бұрын
London has had its heart and soul destroyed by misguided developers, they even got rid of the London routemaster double decker bus and there was nothing wrong with them, it makes me want to weep to see how this city has been changed beyond recognition, I've only lived in London since 1983, I came from up north to be a student here and never left, there have been some major changes even since then, in the 1980s most of docklands were still intact and film crews still used it as a location to recreate Victorian London, thats all been wiped away and sanitised now, its such a great shame that so much character has gone.
@harryharrison6128
@harryharrison6128 8 жыл бұрын
I left in '83 but by brother still lives in NW area. When I go visit it is more sad than anything, it's losing its soul. Many true Londoners have left and it is at London's detriment.
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye 6 жыл бұрын
Ironic because I MOVED from Inner London in May,1983, the same year you were arriving. The Culture was rapidly changing from the 99% White/British of my youth and, even the, everyone knew which ethnic group ( though only 10% of Londoners ) was, easily, committing most crime so I made the " brilliant" decision to move to "Outer" London to live with the same people FROM INNER London and it's been wonderful :)
@mrbump28
@mrbump28 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with them except less reliable, efficient and more polluting?
@nashgill1062
@nashgill1062 5 жыл бұрын
Isleofskye seen you post the same comments on several of these London videos. What a bitter person you are.
@robtyman4281
@robtyman4281 3 жыл бұрын
Now for authentic Victorian London scenes, often they use Prague streets....and sometimes parts of Manchester or Liverpool. For some authentic medieval London streets, York, Chester, and Canterbury are often used. If they can't get the right Victorian or medieval street 'look', then all these other cities are often used instead - acting as 'under studies' The viewer is often none the wiser.... especially if it's shot well and the film makers use clever tricks. So sad, but there's virtually no Medieval looking London streets left, and the Victorian looking ones are often the really famous and well known streets, not the side streets - which too are slowly disappearing.
@Steven_Rowe
@Steven_Rowe 5 жыл бұрын
London in the 60s I was a child. What amazes me is the social change which is not all good. People seem angrier today, more people seem to have a hissy fit and loose it mentally and this seems to be a world wide phenomenon. As a kid in London I could wander around London and never find trouble, unless you went looking for it. No it wasnt perfect either. Today the average person just seems more volatile and I womder why.
@denisescutt1865
@denisescutt1865 Жыл бұрын
Because people have become Godless
@dinglebay100
@dinglebay100 7 жыл бұрын
Loved watching this, I wish things could have been left as they were. There's no spirit or heart in this world of shinny steel and glass thats been created for us, everything is clinical and cold. I feel so out of touch and disconnected in this new world of straight lines and box shaped buildings. Thanks for sharing and taking me back to a time when community was at the heart of everything.
@connoroleary591
@connoroleary591 4 жыл бұрын
I know exactly how you feel. But I do think we have to get on with it and make our own communities. Not the online fantasies, but get out and do stuff for our neighbours, neighborhood and community. There is great need out there for people like you and me to get involved.
@gordonbennett5638
@gordonbennett5638 4 жыл бұрын
People have been moaning about architecture since we moved out of the caves. Open your eyes and have a good look.
@carlgrove8793
@carlgrove8793 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The only modern building that I actually liked was Centre Point -- not sure why, but it seemed to fit in, whereas the weird shaped stuff of today just looks grotesque.
@eliseg2847
@eliseg2847 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. Marvellous memories of a bygone era.
@lady0veg
@lady0veg 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer the old London...by far :'(
@michaeljames1116
@michaeljames1116 10 жыл бұрын
I think the shot @ 13:57 'Don't Know 29' is at Battersea/Nine Elms york Road area as this is where Sainsbury's had its distribution centre in the 60s.
@canturgan
@canturgan 8 жыл бұрын
The Shell Building at 13:15 has been demolished in the last month. Apparently we need more luxury flats for foreign investors to leave empty.
@SuperNevile
@SuperNevile 8 жыл бұрын
At least they will be "low energy" with no lights on ;-)
@pwimbledon
@pwimbledon 6 жыл бұрын
The Shell Building has not been demolished, just the communist-esque dross at its base.
@pwimbledon
@pwimbledon 6 жыл бұрын
Nope. Why is describing a very unappealing, utilitarian set of modernist buildings as "communist-esque", having communism on the brain? What a bizarre statement! Have you ever been to Eastern Europe?
@pwimbledon
@pwimbledon 6 жыл бұрын
What the hell are you going on about? I was talking about a style of architecture. Have you got nothing better to do?
@pwimbledon
@pwimbledon 6 жыл бұрын
Haha! You've got issues. You're arguing with someone else. The KZbin school of lunacy strikes again! You're arguing politics and geography with someone talking about architecture. There's probably a medical name for that? Psychosis?Go read a book, troll, first get help.
@adrianoclincho1852
@adrianoclincho1852 4 жыл бұрын
London was so cool in the 1960s still a great city to visit and love in
@ZeldaFitz
@ZeldaFitz 3 жыл бұрын
London was only cool in the 60s if you were a film star, actor, model or extremely rich, for everybody else it was no better than the early 1950s, rose coloured specs.
@thomasreed49
@thomasreed49 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeldaFitz You don’t get it do you. Everybody was in the same boat everybody was happy it was a laugh. I can remember the 50s and 60s very well living in your own culture was fantastic I loved it.
@geoffsclassiccars
@geoffsclassiccars Жыл бұрын
WAS a great city, won't go there now no longer my country 😢
@matrags
@matrags 9 жыл бұрын
So basically local councils and developers have spent the last 50 years making the place uglier. Nice.
@oldproji
@oldproji 9 жыл бұрын
London has had its heart torn out. If I could step back into the 1960s knowing what I know now, I would have certainly gone into politics. Too late now!
@laswap1
@laswap1 8 жыл бұрын
everywhere in the western world has changed dramatically in the past 50 years. By the looks of it you'd prefer we be left alone just like north korea. We could have been the happy little island people stuck in the past. The world changes, in the 60's old folks used to complain about how backward the new generation was compared to when they were young. The fact of the matter is that london is economically booming and is the number 1 tourist destination on the planet. Londoners enjoy a much better standard of living. Not as many white people though I guess that's the real problem for you?
@spencerhardy8667
@spencerhardy8667 7 жыл бұрын
The old people of the sixties were correct. The mass of each generation does get dumber since the introduction of TV. You've only got to read the quality of Edwardian and 1920's magazine to find that out. There is a lot more to life than "economics". Over my life I've seen progress happen before my eyes. Rhodesia, South Africa, Detroit, Luton etc. And I've worked in Detroit, so I know the ultimate result of "diversity". And I've seen the same arrive in London since 1997. As for "quality of life" in the UK, that peaked between 1966 and 1977, and has been downward ever since. Cheap plastic gadgets, dodgy takeaways and swarthy taxi drivers hanging around the school gates hardly make up for what has been lost. I guess you'd hate Tokyo and Kyoto for being "too Japanese",
@ZnenTitan
@ZnenTitan 7 жыл бұрын
Like Enoch Powell?
@mohammadusman6525
@mohammadusman6525 2 жыл бұрын
Well white people went around the world claiming other places as their own America, Australia, New Zealand What's wrong with black and brown people coming to London Adds a bit of diversity to the place
@gorillachilla
@gorillachilla 2 жыл бұрын
Good whitey
@rentaghostokish5628
@rentaghostokish5628 9 жыл бұрын
People are fatter, scruffier and more aggressive now. There are more trees though nowadays, which is good.
@sarahfemi9862
@sarahfemi9862 3 жыл бұрын
That's all over the UK go outside of London to other UK cities like Birmingham, Liverpool and Manchester and see how racist and rough they are .
@heathstjohn6775
@heathstjohn6775 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, yes. These photo's of a mid-century, in mid-transformation, from an optimistic to an increasingly barbarised reversion to the pre-Roman woad-coloured native seen on today's streets in the nearly-bare bodies of skin-pictures, under-assisted in covering the few dangling rags over just fractions of body. They show I'd say what should happen to most tastes if many well-attitired people were shipwrecked on an uninhabited island. The 1957 film, 'The Admirable Crichton' demonstrates this phenomenon. That our urbanised 'islands' always were inhabited, and always had shops, shows you how very successful the degenerating influences of a fallen media, pop-'culture' and the promotion of a mono-'culture' of ragtag-and-bobtail commercialism have been, in convincing people that holey materials which once should have been considered as useful possibly only for cleaning purposes are now sold for high prices as picture frames, allowing the wearer to display as much of their skin gallery as possible.
@michaelt8682
@michaelt8682 3 жыл бұрын
@@heathstjohn6775 are you on drugs?
@mikewa2
@mikewa2 3 жыл бұрын
Less cars back then! 2 car family are rare thing.
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye 3 жыл бұрын
I moved to The Outer London Suburbs to tis very house in 1983 and I was less than 3 miles from the heart of Central London and most families had 1 car and a Front Garden. Now front gardens like mine are much rarer.
@tonykemp3432
@tonykemp3432 3 жыл бұрын
The new glass and metal building work which took place in London is the very same time communities were torn down... Most residential streets had a pub, paper shop and maybe a small cafe on them... Now we got faceless shite, and NO community.... Even up until the mid 1980s you could still see parts of old every day London...
@jeremytravis360
@jeremytravis360 4 жыл бұрын
I have hundreds of Victorian & Edwardian photos of London Streets. In most of them the stark difference besides the clothes is the compete lack of motor cars.
@ZnenTitan
@ZnenTitan 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this look back in time. The city seems cleaner now, the architecture modern and new. But but for all the grittiness, somewhere along the way it lost something, it seems less friendly and somewhat soulless.
@hemmay
@hemmay 10 жыл бұрын
***** The English are now the foreigners,and things will only get worse.
@ZnenTitan
@ZnenTitan 7 жыл бұрын
Well then maybe "Brexit" can be an exit for all those who won't fit in with British society.
@ZnenTitan
@ZnenTitan 7 жыл бұрын
All moved to Essex now.
@paulallison2412
@paulallison2412 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. People are more aggressive and scruffy too.
@koont666
@koont666 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks great slide show
@AmoreenaXX
@AmoreenaXX 7 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute! People were better dressed back then!
@polo-kf6yh
@polo-kf6yh 3 жыл бұрын
Not really, less choice. Demob suits or nothing
@daveo138
@daveo138 10 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Thank you.
@sito6634
@sito6634 9 жыл бұрын
marvellous...thank you
@sarahstrong7174
@sarahstrong7174 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for sharing.
@AFaceintheCrowd01
@AFaceintheCrowd01 2 жыл бұрын
They stripped every bit of charm from London, destroyed Piccadilly, filled every high street with fast-food garbage and ruined Soho with overpriced, worthless tourist joints designed to pick their pockets. I wish you younger people could’ve seen it in the 60s and 70s. What a city it was.
@franktratwe1025
@franktratwe1025 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff
@nivencalder
@nivencalder 10 жыл бұрын
Really good video!
@theonlyantony
@theonlyantony 4 жыл бұрын
Great old photographs, but the new comparison pictures are clearly just lifted off Google maps, so all the perspectives, angles and depth are wrong. This doesn't really work for me. As i say, i really bask in the old daylight of the elderly pictures.
@harryharrison6128
@harryharrison6128 8 жыл бұрын
You've got me thinking on the "don't knows"... Maybe the first one is near a north London barracks somewhere or somewhere off Whitehall?
@TheJiminiflix
@TheJiminiflix 4 жыл бұрын
Its a godless generation now. Jesus Christ is LORD
@goonerone-z2h
@goonerone-z2h 11 күн бұрын
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@southlondon86
@southlondon86 8 күн бұрын
So all other religious figures are false?
@PaulRoseGuitar
@PaulRoseGuitar 6 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@JohnCashin
@JohnCashin 7 жыл бұрын
I understand many of the sentiments expressed on here because as someone who grew up in London in the 60's and 70's and still there to this day, I can say with absolute confidence that things sure are different to what they once were, there's no denying that, however, different doesn't necessarily mean worse or better, we need to honestly ask ourselves if things REALLY were better back then?, you see, I do wonder sometimes if we may be being selective in our memory banks because there were in fact, a whole host of problems even back in those days, it's just that as time goes on, we tend to forget and only remember the good stuff, whereas, because we are in the here and now, in real time, we can see, feel and experience a lot more of what is wrong than if we were looking back on it on KZbin or looking back to it in our minds. I think the truth of the matter is that if things were truly so great back then, they wouldn't have changed, change suggests that something wasn't working, we are here today where we are because where we were was failing in some way, the old ways weren't getting us anywhere further, we'd come to the end of their time and so new ideas had to replace them, let's also remember that we have access to technology today that our parents in their day could have only dreamed of, as a result, whilst life is still difficult, it is a lot easier than it was for them in their time. We can watch KZbin here for example and look back on all of these bygone things, this is something that few could have done back in the old days unless they were fortune enough to have been the one that had the camera to take the film and be able to play it, we can do so many things online with the click of a button that would have taken weeks on end of paperwork back in the old days, they do say, be careful what you wish for, you might just get it but it won't be the way you imagined it would be at all, look at the past for what it was and enjoy looking back, I know I do but don't be tempted to wish for it again because it ended for a reason, if it was so good it never would have ended, we need to face this, I know it might not feel like it but the here and now is better than the past in many ways, ways which you just tend to forget because they are right in front of you, you don't see them, that's the irony, many thanks.
@ZnenTitan
@ZnenTitan 7 жыл бұрын
Did not Aristophanes say "Whirl is king"?
@ajmedia1274
@ajmedia1274 6 жыл бұрын
John Cashin agree with all you say my friend, I look back with rose tinted glasses as I think we all do, but you have to realise we usually only see the edited good bits on film! Many thanks
@Isleofskye
@Isleofskye 6 жыл бұрын
Hello me old mucker. I am Fred Spencer and I am a Muslim too ! So is my brother Bert and his mate Harry Johnson.
@rosielowndes4525
@rosielowndes4525 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this - It can get very depressing trawling through the comments on videos like these to see hundreds of people lamenting for 'byegone' days like these, which is not very nice for a young person like me to hear. Your comment is a reminder that we are living in better times for all.
@LukePowell-pd3oh
@LukePowell-pd3oh Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best posts I have read in a long time. 100% accurate. I grew up in the 1970s and, in many parts of London, things were incomparably worse back then. For example, London’s major train stations, like Liverpool Street, were in a terrible state - run-down, decrepit, dirty, litter everywhere. Far too many people are looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses. London is a large, dynamic city with poor areas and rich areas. It was like that then and it is like that now.
@MrAlwaysBlue
@MrAlwaysBlue 6 жыл бұрын
Its a fascinating debate as to whether the past was better. Many people think it was. Could people today do without their mobiles and our digitally connected environment?I'm not so sure. In the early 90's, never mind, the 60's. The instant availability of information at our fingertips would have been unbelievable.
@jamesfrench7299
@jamesfrench7299 2 жыл бұрын
Less choices and knowing less can be better. It frees the mind.
@tedoneilclark4710
@tedoneilclark4710 2 жыл бұрын
What on earth have they done to the poor place, it's been striped of it's character and personality.
@joeblogs4701
@joeblogs4701 8 жыл бұрын
Dont know 28, might be Wapping Old Stairs, or one of the other alleys along Wapping High Street. Years ago this was alive with activity, but now all of the warehouses are flats & offices, and the Prospect of Whitby has been 'done up' - more likey done-for. First went there in 1962. Very sad. Great show by the way.
@phhu7554
@phhu7554 3 жыл бұрын
Just needs to be accompanied by Ralph Mctell's Streets of London.
@peterstudley1804
@peterstudley1804 3 ай бұрын
At the 1.38 mark, we see a silver/grey Ford escort sporting an H registration = August 1st 69 to end July 1970. In front is a G reg mini mk11.
@michaelcarlos8686
@michaelcarlos8686 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. My only complaint is I can’t read the locations. The yellow writing is too small
@canturgan
@canturgan 8 жыл бұрын
13:38 isn't in the UK
@reinplat
@reinplat 8 жыл бұрын
Could be Germany (going by the pavement, the traffic lights, the signs, the cars)
@geegod9122
@geegod9122 4 жыл бұрын
Could be Afghanistan
@RomanAlexander1
@RomanAlexander1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at the Shell building now! You have picked a very strange colour and place to site the graphics, extremely difficult to read them.
@peterg957
@peterg957 4 жыл бұрын
Not a Burka to be seen...
@R3DNEWS
@R3DNEWS 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone seen the movie idiocracy. ? Please just watch the first five minutes it will explain what happened here.
@ahassen1236
@ahassen1236 2 жыл бұрын
When most houses were 30k-90k to buy. The 30k house is 900k. 90k one £2.7m. How times change! A rundown 95,000 sqft Docklands former mill even sold for £34,500 in 1969, close to sites of Canary Wharf today. Even featured in The Sweeney in 1975!
@Mr121john
@Mr121john Жыл бұрын
I've always loved London from past to now it has character even to this day and how london people survived the blitz we don't know how lucky we are really are what we have.
@nicholasroberts6954
@nicholasroberts6954 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of "Character lost", but god, its improved since the 1960s, particularly the centre, which was still, in large part, !!a post-war, dark, dingy, run-down, polluted wreck. Just look at the differences in illumination between the then and now photographs, a fair bit of the darkness in the 1960s photographs is down to atmospheric pollution reducing available light. The Thames was an open sewer along a lots of its length, large areas were still bombed-out and although partially cleared weren't being actively developed and some were used as car parks - I visited central London multiple times in the early, mid and late1960s as a kid. The large area behind St Bartholemews hospital was still flattened and under development, Paddington, Kensington and Olympia were run down, in parts semi derelect dumps, which were a little forbidding and scarey places to a West London suburbs born and bred boy in the fresh air and light (It was in those days before the cars took over). The docks area were well run down, dirty, dingy and showing the signs of war damage (I did tours by boat and road). The East end and south-east London were just building sites. Large numbers of people still lived in pre-fabricated housing (Pre-fabs) since being bombed-out in the war. Large sections of the underground were dark, dingy and dirty and noisey,. Buses were slow and polluting. Diesel oil from bus and lorry tanks was often slopped over sections of roads, usually corners. Some streets were particularly rubbish and litter filled, with derelict cars and other discarded comsumer items. The canals were run down and largely used as local rubbish tips. The only real benefit was that activities were more affordable then they are now, and were perhaps available to a wider cross-section of the population. I'd say despite the changes in population and a slight feeling of alienation on the part of long-standing native Brits, particularly in the last 25 years, things have markedly improved.
@telemachus53
@telemachus53 7 жыл бұрын
One thing's definitely been utilised for the better and that's the Bankside power station which has now become the Tate Modern. Mind you their exhibits are not that great.
@stephenhopkins463
@stephenhopkins463 5 жыл бұрын
Some of these photos are more recent than the 60s, judging from the cars on the streets.....
@geoffsclassiccars
@geoffsclassiccars Жыл бұрын
Has no sole now😢
@davidsirett5560
@davidsirett5560 5 жыл бұрын
Basildump Essex
@jimmeven1120
@jimmeven1120 5 жыл бұрын
And it looks exactly the same today! Makes me want to weep.
@pezza39817
@pezza39817 3 жыл бұрын
The buildings looked grim from the minute they went up.
@henrytudor8537
@henrytudor8537 6 жыл бұрын
Cant believe am saying this but now looks better.
@reinplat
@reinplat 8 жыл бұрын
So essentially at what point did the locals decide to give up and hand it all over to coloured and muslim immigrants?
@misst.e.a.187
@misst.e.a.187 6 жыл бұрын
When my parents arrived in the 50s, with British passports from the Caribbean, they cam to work in your understaffed factories, hospitals, transport, etc, and had to put up with disgusting housing/landlords, prejudiced whites and fugly Teddy Boys. They brought colour and variety to the grey bomb-damaged cities, and to the grey people with bad teeth and even worse hygiene. Their children integrated with the locals, spoke English and went to your pubs and churches. They contributed greatly to building this country up from the mess it was in. Don't insult my parents generation by mixing them in with today's Muslim, who have had full access to all benefits but rarely consider themselves part of British society.
@barb4645
@barb4645 3 жыл бұрын
@@misst.e.a.187 ☝️
@brainsmith3931
@brainsmith3931 3 жыл бұрын
No one told the whites to move out of the London they knew many don't want to live next to blacks and foreigners hence why white flight happened in London now the whole of the UK is copying London .
@mjh5437
@mjh5437 2 жыл бұрын
@@misst.e.a.187 You`re right about the West Indian immigrants of the 1950`s-60s integrating,but their descendents certainly don`t,all they do now is bitch and whinge about England and do everything they can NOT to integrate.
@ratioveritas9983
@ratioveritas9983 10 жыл бұрын
The ones at 11:49 and 12:04 could be today's pics
@AlvinKTo
@AlvinKTo 6 жыл бұрын
ratio veritas it says “now” at the top left
@ZnenTitan
@ZnenTitan 7 жыл бұрын
2:45 Jeremy Clarkson's favorite car! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4LLZmmdmrpjjpo
@mjh5437
@mjh5437 2 жыл бұрын
Big deal.
@hauskalainen
@hauskalainen 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing how the Millennium footbridge made an appearance in this collection from the 1960s.
@iseegoodandbad6758
@iseegoodandbad6758 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why ladies then towered above the men!
@annajames4860
@annajames4860 9 жыл бұрын
Don't know 26 looks like the back of County Hall
@petersimpson8386
@petersimpson8386 3 жыл бұрын
A very enjoyable watch no colours either
@simonnutley2945
@simonnutley2945 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to read street names.
@talesfromtinpanalley-thedo6198
@talesfromtinpanalley-thedo6198 6 жыл бұрын
Check out our Trailer for Tales From Tin Pan Alley - Denmark St London. Currently also having its guts torn out and seen here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZorZi3x4qN9jea8
@paulwild4330
@paulwild4330 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Filthy old London. I remember the enjoyment of it not being perfect. The old tube trains and the way London had a life. Not now it’s too cold and uncaring altogether. Just a place to get through asap if you have to go there at all. Anyway I can’t understand the languages
@ZeldaFitz
@ZeldaFitz 3 жыл бұрын
Think of a problem, and then look at what part the motorcar played in it.
@ferraridinoman
@ferraridinoman 6 жыл бұрын
Londonstan (before it belonged to us!) sad!
@888ssss
@888ssss 2 жыл бұрын
theese were the top men.
@polo-kf6yh
@polo-kf6yh 3 жыл бұрын
Everything's prettier now, things were scruffier and bombed out
@isaakwalton9600
@isaakwalton9600 7 жыл бұрын
Ha nice one ! Half of your film was shot in the 21st century .Nice try NOT .
@paulallison2412
@paulallison2412 4 жыл бұрын
That's the point. Comparing then with now.
@schnittke100
@schnittke100 Жыл бұрын
What a lot of racists on here. I like to think of Londoners as more open minded these days..
@gorillachilla
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Love what's happened to London. Flood it in the bstrds
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