More Powerful Than The One Above All (Fall of X)

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@ntz752
@ntz752 Жыл бұрын
Next issue, a NY rat is more powerful than the entirety of marvels cosmic entities 😂
@comics_explained
@comics_explained Жыл бұрын
The Rat Above All 😭
@thenextbondvillainklaussch3266
@thenextbondvillainklaussch3266 Жыл бұрын
@@comics_explained Have you guys seen the size of those NYC Rats !! ..... saw one drag a piece of Pizza 7 times his size up some stairs .... thats some Spider man Level Strength right there .......
@nellisswanepoel7014
@nellisswanepoel7014 Жыл бұрын
​@@comics_explained How did hearts not see this coming (⁠ ⁠´⁠◡ゝ⁠◡⁠`⁠)
@Throwd-Off
@Throwd-Off Жыл бұрын
😂​@@thenextbondvillainklaussch3266
@Ecirroh1
@Ecirroh1 Жыл бұрын
The slice of pizza it's scurrying off with into the subway is the entire marvel multi-omniverse and there's nothing anyone can do about it
@Erok9
@Erok9 Жыл бұрын
Every time I see "More powerful than.." I just roll my eyes now, it's easier to make new characters more powerful than more interesting.
@lolololalala8225
@lolololalala8225 Жыл бұрын
It has been getting silly for a while now. Terrible stories.
@hellblaze10
@hellblaze10 Жыл бұрын
Snap
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile I think developing the Marvel mythos and not having a hard limit of one definitive God really stirs the pot. So to each their own
@Erok9
@Erok9 Жыл бұрын
@nailinthefashion They get a new definitive God every event. This is why most Shonen animes Peter out. You can't just telling people the new guy is worse than the last.
@sabreeemneely
@sabreeemneely Жыл бұрын
​@@nailinthefashionUH-HUH. So I guess you've hated comics before all of this lame power scaling.
@nashonabo821
@nashonabo821 Жыл бұрын
In 10 years the writers are going to have to rename him to The One Above Few
@thanosks
@thanosks 10 ай бұрын
The One Above All* *Not really All... most tho
@xdevantx5870
@xdevantx5870 9 ай бұрын
It was really a doombot not the real One Above All the whole time! Or was a an LMD, or a clone, or a Skrull, or was the watcher wrong when he said it really was the one above all, or is it a hologram or a hallucination? She didn't really die when she fell of the cliff. Yes you saw the body but it was a super secret double and they planned the whole thing in advance! Never mind it's been a decade and three different writers since then. Marvel planned it from the beginning! Comics are all nonsense now. It's just a 80 year old story written by 2 dozen people one month at a time.
@scorpiomelancholia1559
@scorpiomelancholia1559 8 ай бұрын
"The one above many"
@ambinintsoahasina
@ambinintsoahasina 7 ай бұрын
The one above some
@odogg6899
@odogg6899 Жыл бұрын
This didn't make me believe anything is more powerful than The One Above All. It's definitely powerful though.
@ProYada
@ProYada Жыл бұрын
especially since it is clearly based off Kabbalistic magic and the crown (Kether) is the first manifestation of The One Above all.
@michalischronis5440
@michalischronis5440 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!I mean this video was practicaly a clickbate..
@tobster9567
@tobster9567 Жыл бұрын
There shouldnt be anything more powerful than the one above all
@AxelordSMIJES
@AxelordSMIJES Жыл бұрын
Sick opinion, bro. I especially love how you just blurted out what you think the case should be while providing absolutely no relevant information or reasoning as to WHY it should be the case. Very astute. Well played, lol.
@dumbautisticmutt
@dumbautisticmutt Жыл бұрын
​@@AxelordSMIJESQuick question, what does it mean to be "above all?"
@Am_Cookie2436
@Am_Cookie2436 Жыл бұрын
​@@AxelordSMIJESyou're very fun at parties aren't you.
@Hi-fd4cw
@Hi-fd4cw Жыл бұрын
Devil’s advocate, “above all” needs to be clarified. Above all *KNOWN* existence? Or above all *UNKNOWN* existence? If the marvel uni/multiverse is rapidly expanding into infinite, there’s nothing to say there can’t be the possibility for something to come along to be much stronger than TOAA. Records are broken every day, and there’s no reason to believe the power scaling can’t be topped by something else
@dumbautisticmutt
@dumbautisticmutt Жыл бұрын
​​@@Am_Cookie2436I thought the same thing lol, bro expects a dissertation any time someone shares their opinion on KZbin
@_tj2
@_tj2 Жыл бұрын
There's going to be a massive retcon really soon. This is just ridiculous
@0Fate8Bound0
@0Fate8Bound0 Жыл бұрын
2 big events down the line, TOAA is gonna sit some street level hero down and have a candid conversation about how he was boared and just wanted to see what would happen if he let sinister spice things up.
@getschwifty5537
@getschwifty5537 Жыл бұрын
​@@0Fate8Bound0 If we take TOAA as allegory for the will of the writers then yeah, this could actually work. Some future writer needs to just look at all this and be like, "well I'm retconning this, since TOAA is *us* then the writer before me was just TOAA being cheeky, pretending it was ever actually part of this silly power scaling game, letting Oblivion believe there was even a hierarchy it could actually climb. And under *me*, TOAA is going to let some random hero who's actually a stand-in for our readers, know that this whole premise was fundamentally bullshit"
@Reader999
@Reader999 11 ай бұрын
​@@getschwifty5537you should write that and make it mainstream. I pay for a movie to be made lol
@ayomthe17th
@ayomthe17th Жыл бұрын
At no point in Defenders #5 did Al Ewing say The Enigma was more powerful than the one above all. The crown above all things moniker just meant that it existed outside time and space (Just like the other realms past the foreshore) and pointed to the fact that the Enigma was the original Nathaniel Essex i.e the King sinister. He's even stated to be Enternity's enemy, not TOAA's. The Enigma being more powerful than TOAA is a big misconception
@raducoman6423
@raducoman6423 10 ай бұрын
Finally someone said it
@acereporter73
@acereporter73 Жыл бұрын
Mother Righteous legit went "It Should Have Been Me Not Him!"
@SpicyClover
@SpicyClover Жыл бұрын
Gotta love comics. Writers can always have fun and make stuff up like kids at a playground. "I'm the strongest in the universe!" "Well I can control anyone stronger than me!" "That doesn't make sense!" "Yes it does! Now go get me a cool rock!"
@shadowx8145
@shadowx8145 Жыл бұрын
Technically that does make sense. In fact that can happen in real life
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
​@@shadowx8145it's happening right now with idiot CEOs controlling insane talent and ruining franchises, that's just one example lol money is so stupid
@rodrigonoal
@rodrigonoal Жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious because at some point all characters lose all their defining traits just to be more powerful than the one more powerful before
@letsgetdoing
@letsgetdoing Жыл бұрын
​@@nailinthefashion Nah that's bullshit. The greed in CITIZENS makes that happen. If you work and buy said CEO's products and you know what they do it's YOU who's making this happen.
@protalghulnist4126
@protalghulnist4126 Жыл бұрын
​@@shadowx8145Reality warpers are being controlled by stronger reality warpers in real life?
@grayhawk66
@grayhawk66 Жыл бұрын
The Marvel Universe is pure chaos. One above all should be it, nothing else. Nothing beside it, no equal.
@ryanwall1470
@ryanwall1470 Жыл бұрын
But wouldnt the one above not be effected by oblivion since he probably created that too? Isnt he like outside of everything since he made everything? Seems like the writer just changed all that just to make him weaker for no logical reason.
@epicjonny155
@epicjonny155 Жыл бұрын
Comic books these days
@donellebullock7404
@donellebullock7404 Жыл бұрын
@@epicjonny155 Leftist at work.
@jsmaelsartor595
@jsmaelsartor595 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's called shit writing
@atlsortmiami9476
@atlsortmiami9476 Жыл бұрын
It's getting stupid..with ever comic always someone stronger.
@dumbautisticmutt
@dumbautisticmutt Жыл бұрын
​@@donellebullock7404Are these "leftists" in the room with us now?
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462 Жыл бұрын
Mother Righteous is a sinister, but she is a clone of Nathaniel Essex's wife, not exactly a female Mr. Sinister or Nathaniel Essex.
@ryanlopez205
@ryanlopez205 Жыл бұрын
Yeah they lost me here, "one above all" apparently means nothing. Love your vids though rob!
@tdzbacon3640
@tdzbacon3640 Жыл бұрын
I think the really important difference between Dominion and TOOA is that if the TOOA removes the multiverse then it’s fine it just starts over. However the dominion seems to be limited by the fact that it originates from time. Its origin is a single thread that can be pulled in such a way that it unravels. At least that’s my theory.
@100PROOF-G
@100PROOF-G Жыл бұрын
TOOA? TOAA. Jus sayin
@enzovulkoor
@enzovulkoor Жыл бұрын
The one over all vs the one above all?
@krikeydial3430
@krikeydial3430 Жыл бұрын
It's TDAA, The Dumb Above All. These stories are ridiculous.
@kennethmartin6115
@kennethmartin6115 Жыл бұрын
WTF.... Folks trying to sell crypto????
@Marcustheseer
@Marcustheseer Жыл бұрын
in a way it can work but there is just 1 problem,if the one above all is omnipresent it sees all meaning it would stop dominion before it can become to strong unless it knows that dominon is no treath from the one above all. and then there is another thing that makes it impossible for dominion to be stronger and that simple fact is how can something be stronger then an eternal beeing that has made everything,the one above all is one with everything so the dominion trying to destroy it would mean destroying itself because without the one above all the marvel universe cant exist.
@tindekappa9047
@tindekappa9047 10 ай бұрын
X-Men stories are so esoteric at this point..
@TalesFromTheBooth
@TalesFromTheBooth Жыл бұрын
I keep going back to Hickman’s data pages in HOX/POX (because they’re so damn good) where it explains that the only thing Dominions fear are the Phoenix and Galactus. This gives us a pseudo scale. The One Above All, the One Below All, the Beyonders and Franklin Richards seem to be the top tier of hierarchy. Galactus, the Phoenix Force and Dominions seem to be the next level down 🤔
@Igivegdparent
@Igivegdparent Жыл бұрын
didnt franklin lose his powers?
@TalesFromTheBooth
@TalesFromTheBooth Жыл бұрын
@@Igivegdparent unfortunately
@Igivegdparent
@Igivegdparent Жыл бұрын
@@TalesFromTheBooth im sure he will get them back They never depower people for too long
@resulnaki
@resulnaki Жыл бұрын
Phoenix was never a level down, in fact, it's all opposite. Phoenix is second only to toaa, nothing else.
@TalesFromTheBooth
@TalesFromTheBooth Жыл бұрын
@@resulnaki I’ve seen that a lot lately…not gonna dispute
@AyeBeyonder
@AyeBeyonder Жыл бұрын
Okay, just hear me out Marvel Comics: All of these are parts of a singular concept - All that Is Crown - Collection of all that is and all that is known - Dominion Third Eye - Ego or Identity - Psionic Powers Throat - Spelling or Writing/Ritual Creation - Magical Powers Heart - Unconditional Love - One Above All Solar Plexus - Personal Power - Pheonix Force Sacral - Creation or Sexual Energy - Eternity Root - Rage or Survival - One Below All This Explains the flux of power. The One Above All is the complete opposite of The One Below All. The psionic powers stem from the Phoenix Force or one's sense of power and identity. Magic and Entirety, are so closely related. Dominion is the existence and knowledge of all of the self. I'm going to go a little deeper. The White Hot Room is the place or blueprint where one's power (Phoenix Force) helps shape the Ego, reality, or Eternity. Magical Spells or Rituals are used to bend and shape one's perception of reality or Eternity. The One Above and The One Below all are two sides of the same infinite raw power, Creation/Love and Destruction/Hate. My theory is flawed but tell me what you think.
@dimitrihondroulis9986
@dimitrihondroulis9986 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the white hot room being a representation of blank pages of a book/comic book, genius. That blew my mind . . .
@TranswarpXL
@TranswarpXL Жыл бұрын
I'm curious how G.O.D.S will play into this. I mean, just based on the concept of what G.O.D.S is about I would assume this has to be a major point of their run?
@RaGiAn87
@RaGiAn87 11 ай бұрын
As someone purely based of youtube videos ive seen that Phoenix has chosen a new host in the g.o.d.s story so maybe she will be the one to fight dominion? Seems like they are planning a new infinity war event for the mcu tbh
@ledaeh
@ledaeh Жыл бұрын
The one above all has always represented the writers, The dominion represents the emergence of generative AI, LLMs And things being written by AI, threatening the writers livelyhood its an allegory
@Die-qb7gk
@Die-qb7gk Жыл бұрын
No you’re just some lazy wannabe artist on tumblr that’s mad you have to get a real job instead of e begging for handouts
@halloweenbeautyqueen666
@halloweenbeautyqueen666 Жыл бұрын
I think a lot readers confuse the actual meta text purpose of the One Above All with religious monotheism.
@amogus1415
@amogus1415 Жыл бұрын
​@@halloweenbeautyqueen666Cause he is?Like maybe if he wasnt supposed to be god they shoudnt have shoved in 50 different religious references💀💀They dont even try to hide that hes meant to be the Christian God
@halloweenbeautyqueen666
@halloweenbeautyqueen666 Жыл бұрын
@amogus1415 You're not wrong that TOAA has certainly been used that way, but that's where editorial oversight should have come in. Some writers grasp the concept, while others just use it as a stand-in for the Christian Yahweh, which narratively is massively problematic. At the end of day, we the readers, just have to tolerate narrative inconsistencies. 🙄
@amogus1415
@amogus1415 Жыл бұрын
@@halloweenbeautyqueen666 The first mention of TOAA was as God.Its equally valid if not more so to intepret him that way in conjuction with a writer metaphor.
@m.k.o7610
@m.k.o7610 Жыл бұрын
Oh no The One Above All is suffering from the Worf Effect. 😂🤣😭
@ehrenmuhammad
@ehrenmuhammad Жыл бұрын
Storylines such as these are the reason why I read Marvel and DC comics sporadically. They make "rules" to their universe, they make beings which are supposed to be the end all and be all, then a new writer or writers come in end and change everything. So the Alpha of the universe is just the Alpha of the moment. It gets annoying and frankly makes no sense what so ever to argue about.
@jamesc7894
@jamesc7894 Жыл бұрын
It’s been like this for almost 100 years.
@MYNAMElSDAVID
@MYNAMElSDAVID Жыл бұрын
This is getting out of hand 😭 I thought this was an X-Men story and now we've gotten beyond the one above all 😂
@MasterofVirology
@MasterofVirology Жыл бұрын
I'm still not convinced there's someone is stronger than TOAA
@oldgordo61
@oldgordo61 Жыл бұрын
Me niether The One Above All is what it's name is Above All Others and that includes this Dominion Being and anyway Plot Armour will save the day.@@MasterofVirology
@RiceCubeTech
@RiceCubeTech Жыл бұрын
Phoenix is stronger than oblivion. TOAA created the Phoenix and everything else. Oblivion isn’t more powerful than TOAA. This is just clickbait
@Yokai_Yuri
@Yokai_Yuri Жыл бұрын
Eeeh. Oblivion should be equal to TOAA, the Lost one with his original powers should be beyond TOAA. TOAA is also weary of the crown so it means the Crown is as strong or stronger than TOAA
@oldgordo61
@oldgordo61 Жыл бұрын
Oblivion represents nothingness which means just that nothing non-existence therefore Oblivion cannot be more powerful than The One Who Is Above All a title which is self explainitory Above All That Is.. The Lost One is a dumb storyline imo he or rather it might be extremely powerful possibly a True Beyonder whose power was stolen by beings who call themselves Beyonders (the writers at Marvel need to figure out what exactly they want to do with those guys the whole retcon thing with the Secret Wars Beyonder and the creators of the Cosmic Cubes who are the Beyonders is so covoluted and messy to say the least) But in any event the Lost One cannot be more powerful than TOAA. @@Yokai_Yuri
@thomaskennedy1289
@thomaskennedy1289 Жыл бұрын
Rob thanks for another great year of comics idk if you realise how many people you actually make happy on a daily basis
@MaadDawg97
@MaadDawg97 Жыл бұрын
lol sounds like cope, it’s been the worst year for comics and superhero movies.
@brimstonefootsteps4332
@brimstonefootsteps4332 Жыл бұрын
It's only a matter of time until Marvel introduces a "Watcher" version of Rob and that will be AMAZING!
@iancowan3527
@iancowan3527 Жыл бұрын
Of all the ending so far... This is the first one to honestly ask... What just happened? Or better what do we have NOW? Professor X - lost it, Mutants - still far off mystery land, Main X-men scattered to the winds, and a new super being/machine construct created from fusing 4 super wackos! = Gives us what now?
@calvinginn1637
@calvinginn1637 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the writer who made The One Above All feels after learning that "nah we made stuff more op than him lol" later on
@tobster9567
@tobster9567 Жыл бұрын
"One above most"
@edwinbowles2
@edwinbowles2 Жыл бұрын
​​@@tobster9567 😂😂😂😂. I was thinking that. They are going to have to change his name now.
@Thomas-lz2kb
@Thomas-lz2kb Жыл бұрын
One Above Some
@alanguages
@alanguages Жыл бұрын
The Crown with Pearly and Shiny Jewels Above All.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
As a writer, I don't care what you do with my characters lol. They're made to have fun and be sold not exist in a metaphorical glass box. Only narcissistic egos would be that beholden and upset
@nicholashardwick629
@nicholashardwick629 11 ай бұрын
Cant believe no one’s remembered to mention that at the end of all time and space across the omniverse one more being will exist besides oblivion. The one and only Mr.Immortal.
@Jasonforeverman
@Jasonforeverman Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Жыл бұрын
I dont see how oblivion is above TOAA when he follows the commands of the Living tribunal who by default answers to TOAA, Marvel saying TOAA isn't the most powerful is just more bad writing and further destroying a once understandable hierarchy, its almost as bad as the beyonder retcons.
@alanguages
@alanguages Жыл бұрын
I agree. Oblivion is part of the order of abstract concepts. He still has his limits which he is allowed to what he can and cannot do. Otherwise he would just have destroyed the Marvel universe already by himself, without using avatars. Oblivion still seems to need approval on what he is able to get away with.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Жыл бұрын
@@alanguages Exactly and we've seen him directly follow the Living tribunal and obey him, so this whole narrative being pushed about oblivion doesn't make any sense.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion Жыл бұрын
There's a weird correlation btwn straight men not being able to accept hierarchy changes in real life and fiction lol By weird I mean alarming and distinct
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 Жыл бұрын
@@nailinthefashion Bud why did you feel the need to mention "straight men"? I'm talking about how they keep changing things and making it more confusing than it needs to be.
@alanguages
@alanguages Жыл бұрын
Exactly it doesn't make sense. Which has shown Marvel's writing has fallen off a cliff. Just like the 1st Firmament created the Aspirants/Celestials. The Celestials beat the 1st Firmament and Aspirants. Then the Celestials created the Beyonders, who happen to beat all cosmic entities including the Celestials themselves, Eternity, Infinity and Living Tribunal. Afterwards it was revealed the Celestials created the Lost One who the Beyonders took his power to become as powerful as they were to begin with. At that rate, I though the Celestials were going to be the creators of the One Above All and every other cosmic entity.@@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@Dan_Campbell
@Dan_Campbell Жыл бұрын
To make everything truly consistent, we'll start using a temporal qualifier: TOAA circa 1998 - 2015 (just making up dates), TOAA circa 2016 - 2022, etc. The dates refer to our universe, meaning the one that we readers inhabit.
@Nutz_Deez
@Nutz_Deez Жыл бұрын
What?
@alvaro.martinez
@alvaro.martinez 10 ай бұрын
@BigRelly1
@BigRelly1 11 ай бұрын
These comic book writers are really getting out of hand with this hierarchy over the last 10 years. It's so ridiculous that I've just about lost all interest. It feels like one writer creates this omnipotent character, then another writer one-ups that writer and creates an even more supreme being. Who is the final approving authority for all these damn "supreme" being? It was The One Above All, now it's just a bunch of watered down entities......I'm tired of this mess.
@mathewsydney8929
@mathewsydney8929 3 ай бұрын
It's an arms race, LOL!
@sharpshot6111
@sharpshot6111 11 ай бұрын
At this rate The One Above All will be a street level hero
@luisa.acevedo3326
@luisa.acevedo3326 Жыл бұрын
The plot is a little strange in the sense that how the AI achieves Dominion status only by others reaching it. How an isolated system achieves Dominion just by existing. Isn't it like it can try the methods by itself.
@nijoelclark6792
@nijoelclark6792 Жыл бұрын
It "stole" the energy they attempted to used to achieved Dominion for itself.
@liquidtrick187
@liquidtrick187 Жыл бұрын
its more like they (the four sinisters) are it (the dominion), as it was mentioned in the comic they had fails safes built in, and as soon as they achieved dominion those fail safes would immediately trigger, so its not like for different people achieved dominion at four different points in time, its more like the same entity achieving dominion four different times
@luisa.acevedo3326
@luisa.acevedo3326 Жыл бұрын
All seems feasible. Maybe Essex used stolen celestial tech, this reminds me of Apocalypse and Sinister old tricks. Like something similar the the Twelve Circuit.
@decidueyezealot8611
@decidueyezealot8611 Жыл бұрын
It collected what they gathered the minute any sinister tries to use it
@jonadol
@jonadol 11 ай бұрын
Kinda like how AI in real life is feeding off all the other people’s work. Maybe this really is an allegory to AI vs creatives
@meinbherpieg4723
@meinbherpieg4723 Жыл бұрын
The dialogue writing doesn't seem too great in this story. Good vid Rob, as always.
@trigonometry1711
@trigonometry1711 Жыл бұрын
Alright so it wasn't just me. The dialogue shown was fairly bad lol juvenile
@MrKago1
@MrKago1 11 ай бұрын
@@trigonometry1711 dude, the CONCEPT is juvenile. its like the writers at Marvel are a bunch of 5 year olds on a playground going, "My guy is the strongest." "nuh uh, my guy's the strongestest." "Nuh uh my guy's even strongestester".
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420 Жыл бұрын
“More powerful than The One Above All” Wouldn’t that make him just The One Above Most?
@donellebullock7404
@donellebullock7404 Жыл бұрын
Except we've seen him oversee an survive the complete multiversal reboot of MARVEL and its infinite universes.
@comics_explained
@comics_explained Жыл бұрын
I like this guy lol
@dumbautisticmutt
@dumbautisticmutt Жыл бұрын
One Above Almost All lol
@dumbautisticmutt
@dumbautisticmutt Жыл бұрын
What about the One Beside All? A being who is able to match the power of literally anyone
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462 Жыл бұрын
This was an amazing ending!!!!! I can't wait to see this new villain!!! I am going to be honest, I did believe some of the other theories that it was like a fifth Sinister clone, but I did not expect this. It was awesome!!!
@RandalReid
@RandalReid Жыл бұрын
The buck has to stop somewhere. The ridiculous power creep in comics *smh
@MultiGamer20211
@MultiGamer20211 Жыл бұрын
Getting as bad as anime.
@JFKennedeez
@JFKennedeez Жыл бұрын
I could swear I just saw Rob walking down the sidewalk with a beanie cap on.
@PokedexHolderBlack
@PokedexHolderBlack Жыл бұрын
I don't think there really is anything to say that the dominion is more powerful than TOAA, but its definitely pretty powerful. Been loving this runs treatment of Sinister and expanding his lore and story. Cannot WAIT to see how the Krakoa fall arc ends. Got me HUNGRY for more X-Men.
@Fluffyudders
@Fluffyudders 11 ай бұрын
My theory now is that comics writers want their worlds to be real so badly that they've spent the last few decades trying to write a story where the characters break into the 'real world', believing that if they write it well enough and explain it well enough then it might actually happen.
@thegamerboneless2864
@thegamerboneless2864 Жыл бұрын
I truly hate when they depower/Nuke the greats like one above all, Tribunal, Galactus, the cosmos entities, I mean T1AAll, popped up in a Spider-Man once and is super popular. Now Galactus gets seated away, the one below all smacks the one above all, Tribunal gets absorbed etc etc. like come on.
@CoreIreland
@CoreIreland Жыл бұрын
A lot oh us agree, this went from silly to stupid years ago and now it's just painful. My problem with Marvel and especially the XMen is how everything feels like a kids fanfic, "my guy is stronger than your guy" gets "well mine is infinte" gets "mine is infiniter times 100" and so on.
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity Жыл бұрын
First it was Oblivion now its "crown above all" cmon now
@UncleDavid
@UncleDavid 11 ай бұрын
“you know what’s stronger than strong? STRong with three capital letters! hehe.. s-see what I did there?” -marvel comics
@TerraEmperor1
@TerraEmperor1 Жыл бұрын
This always feels like some end game goal know one talks about. Don't rule over creation, be creation itself. Its like its trying to write self out of the story
@0Fate8Bound0
@0Fate8Bound0 Жыл бұрын
one day there'll be a comic, where the writer is writing the next big villan and a hand literally reaches out the page and chokes them to death.Then the cycle starts again as it tries to acend to the top of our exsistance
@AdanKaleoZeke
@AdanKaleoZeke Жыл бұрын
Love this channel!
@darkmindaustin
@darkmindaustin Жыл бұрын
I didn't think they could make Sins of Sinister worse, but they somehow did. God I am so glad I don't buy a single comic and just watch you Rob. I would want a refund after reading this.
@slingeroftruth
@slingeroftruth Жыл бұрын
Blessings be to thee for the shout-out, Robert. GWG✝️
@lilbill15
@lilbill15 Жыл бұрын
Once again I say Charles and magneto bringing in sinister without putting a tight leash on him was a mistake
@mathewsydney8929
@mathewsydney8929 3 ай бұрын
Bingo! It's because they brought in Sinister and let him have too much sway that Krakoa became a fanatical, nationalistic, ethnostate... like, what happened to the original premise of the X-Men? This is something radically different.
@gavinv-q3o
@gavinv-q3o Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I stumbled onto this. I was extremely consistent about keeping up with all things Krakoan until I moved a few months ago. I'm feeling very out of the loop (but I'm not sure if I want to jump back in yet).
@aelabassi
@aelabassi Жыл бұрын
Omnipotent beings are showing up quickly and it is obviously tied to the current Hickman's run, G.O.D.S, and I'm still waiting if Thor's vision of Thanos Holding Mjonir with infinity stones (including the black stone) has to do with fall of X storyline.
@TowDow3
@TowDow3 Жыл бұрын
we're still waiting for that on panel that looked like the justice league in the thor book during the black winter bla bla
@SKy_the_Thunder
@SKy_the_Thunder Жыл бұрын
tl/dw: Dude was the biggest fan fiction writer in existence, wanting nothing more than hold the pen for the main publication.
@dodger9995
@dodger9995 Жыл бұрын
I seriously thought your card art for this video had a RuneScape Hitsplat 😂
@resulnaki
@resulnaki Жыл бұрын
Well, this proves what I've been saying for years; The Phoenix Force is the most powerful being in the comics along with Toaa. The Phoenix is literally the powers of Toaa. If Dominion went into the white hot room to gain all this powers, which is basically the Phoenix itself, it means Phoenix "gave" power to Dominion, it's that simple. Even in Defenders beyond, it was established that nothing could ever defeat the Phoenix in white hot room. The Phoenix Force is basically the marvel itself more or less.
@odogg6899
@odogg6899 Жыл бұрын
no
@resulnaki
@resulnaki Жыл бұрын
@@odogg6899 um yes, read comics not comicvine comments lol
@iamyou2376
@iamyou2376 Жыл бұрын
@@odogg6899yes it is
@Igivegdparent
@Igivegdparent Жыл бұрын
@@resulnaki this basically just put the pheonix back on top over scarlett witch fans wont like that 😅
@resulnaki
@resulnaki Жыл бұрын
@@Igivegdparent lol s witch was no where near the level of Phoenix, it's like comparing an ant to a T-Rex.
@xavieno
@xavieno Жыл бұрын
Always love when Marvel goes crazy with its cosmology, the Dominion really does seem eldritch and alien. Can't wait to see more of it.
@mkhanman12345
@mkhanman12345 Жыл бұрын
what happened to that guy the Beyonders stole their power from?
@Yokai_Yuri
@Yokai_Yuri Жыл бұрын
​@@mkhanman12345 The Lost one? He is just trying to get his powers back. If he gets all of them, he would be invincible to all except the celestials
@archaicrapture
@archaicrapture Жыл бұрын
I don't what the setup is here - reworking godly beings. The King in Black is an antithesis to the Beyonders. Now, there's the Lost One. Is just confusing. Isn't Eddie's final form just existing outside time & space like the Dominion?
@resulnaki
@resulnaki Жыл бұрын
This also confirms that Jean is basically a God, she will always be there since she is the Phoenix itself. Also Rob, Phoenix>Oblivion, it was established before and established here again.
@mentalphilanthropist35
@mentalphilanthropist35 Жыл бұрын
Until hack marvel writers paint themselves into a corner and just re-write it. 😂
@mkpm1304
@mkpm1304 Жыл бұрын
I'd kinda think they were even. Opposites. If Phoenix is the life force and Oblivion is nothingness
@resulnaki
@resulnaki Жыл бұрын
@@mentalphilanthropist35 that's marvel for you. Their writers are trash. They keep changing decades of writing just for one stupid story and no other artist even follows up on it. Lol
@ambrosia_123
@ambrosia_123 Жыл бұрын
@@resulnaki so basically it will be rectconned
@suoutamaki14
@suoutamaki14 Жыл бұрын
Oblivion doesn't make any sense. He is a being that exists that represents non existence. He is a contradiction. Just shows that marvel writers aren't that bright.
@rb9882
@rb9882 Жыл бұрын
This is a good series that got me back into your vids. Happy new year & hope all is well
@nickolaibernar16
@nickolaibernar16 Жыл бұрын
So did orchis plan to arrange for the mutants to arrive on mars as Uranos arrives and decimates them or is this after that attack? Its hard to tell anymore really.
@AdrianMendoza23
@AdrianMendoza23 Жыл бұрын
Orchis didn't plan it & Arakko (Mars) was up and running before Uranos dropped by. Moira did help Druig with intel on which mutants to kill first.
@nickolaibernar16
@nickolaibernar16 Жыл бұрын
@@AdrianMendoza23 🤔 I don't think you understood me
@AdrianMendoza23
@AdrianMendoza23 Жыл бұрын
@@nickolaibernar16 ok
@allrandomstuff
@allrandomstuff Жыл бұрын
Wasn't Jack Kirby the one above all? Is the analogy the writer/creator of the comics/one above all has been replaced with the crown/dominion or AI? Is Marvel comics now all written by an AI?
@Mcdude02
@Mcdude02 Жыл бұрын
Marvel writers trying to create something fun and original instead of some boring all powerful being thats more powerful than (insert last stories' all powerful being) that the earths humans somehow manage to beat challenge (impossible)
@Strawberrymilkdrink
@Strawberrymilkdrink Жыл бұрын
1:01 cha cha real smooth😂😂😂😂😂
@smackroscoe
@smackroscoe Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the work you put into this. Your a better man than me. Nice art, but modern comics like this is not for me. Again, thanks for all that you do for us.
@bryancua3190
@bryancua3190 Жыл бұрын
it came full circle. nice story arc haha
@BriCzar
@BriCzar Жыл бұрын
wow incredible thank you! your explanation really pulled it together for me... thank you! i look forward to your other videos, to fill in some spots for me, thank you!!!!!!!
@bumble-b8162
@bumble-b8162 Жыл бұрын
Is Dominion going to be the Cell arc? Basically meaning that Dom will seem astronomically powerful being the sum total of all power, knowledge, etc. that currently 'is' but will ultimately fail because it did not account for potential (i.e. 'what could be'). Are they going to make an established character OP and then immediately nerf them? 😂😂😅😅
@timothyaigbe3830
@timothyaigbe3830 Жыл бұрын
I knew it was only a matter of time before some writer nerfs the one above all.
@spokoman23
@spokoman23 Жыл бұрын
The setup was really long and the pay off AWESOME, but wish you could have stayed on it more, explain what this means etc. Still, great video!
@omarkarn
@omarkarn Жыл бұрын
It does make a bit of sense having a crown that sits above the one above all
@MasterofVirology
@MasterofVirology Жыл бұрын
Not really . But I've come to accept it
@yamato4271
@yamato4271 Жыл бұрын
@@MasterofVirology Id say most of us will not.
@yamato4271
@yamato4271 Жыл бұрын
It just takes away from the name "THE ONE ABOVE ALL" . Next we are going to have a star that sets on top of the crown and becomes the "THE STAR ABOVE ALL". A pixie that dances on the star and now become the "THE ONE WHO DANCES ABOVE ALL". See how dumb this, if everything is above all then we just have a cesspool of shit that is now just thrown together and becomes "THE SHIT ABOVE MORE SHIT" that is literally just a pile of shit XD.
@chelguy31bro66
@chelguy31bro66 Жыл бұрын
Dominion is below TOAA and Phoenix they even said it fears the Phoenix so bit of click bait on the title but ur content never fails haha
@dcool8752
@dcool8752 Жыл бұрын
I still believe that Thanos is going to be the one to save us all. Its ALL connected, everything thats going on in Marvel comics right now. I will wear this Tinfoil hat until i am proven wrong.
@OokamiDaBoi1da
@OokamiDaBoi1da Жыл бұрын
sorry the explanations in some of the vids arent clear can someone clarify for me?: So basically while sinister himself died due to the one above all an Ai he made in some dr. gero esque plan that housed a print of his conciousness or something completed its task to gain knowledge of all levels and types of powers making it stronger than the one above all or on the same level of power and it used mother righteous to acess the last bastion of strength it needed to complete itself? idk im confused
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462 Жыл бұрын
Going forward, it said that Sage and the others are going to find a clone of Beast to help them fight the actual Beast, but I think that it would be cool to have Beast and Mr. Sinister have a role reversal. What I mean is imagine Beast goes on and does some shady and villainous stuff like experimenting on people and killing humans for Mutant kind and whatnot, and Mr. Sinister joins the X-Men and other Mutants like how he is working with Charles Xavior and what not, so Beast is doing the villainous stuff and Mr. Sinister helps the heroes.
@joeblack2809
@joeblack2809 Жыл бұрын
I mean that’s what they have dark beast for I guess
@Zygotguy
@Zygotguy Жыл бұрын
Man that page turn moment was hype as fuck.
@draco_1876
@draco_1876 Жыл бұрын
Lmao marvel is going to use this to make Thanos Beat Hulk. They’ll rather change their cosmology than to just Hulk win.
@guyincognegro99
@guyincognegro99 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff as always
@SolarWraith
@SolarWraith Жыл бұрын
The one above all. the one above the one above all, etc, etc. The Marvel power hierarchy has gotten a bit...extra.
@jesselee3287
@jesselee3287 Жыл бұрын
After watcing this I went back and re-read Defenders beyond, I did not realise just how conected it was.
@LastNameTom
@LastNameTom Жыл бұрын
What's more powerful than the One Above All? The Crown Above All. Nothing is more powerful than that. ::next issue:: what's more powerful than the Crown Above All? The Ceiling Fan Above All. Nothing is more powerful than that. ::Next Issue:: what's more powerful than the Ceiling Fan Above All? The Recessed Lighting Above All. Nothing is more powerful than that. ::Next issue::..... Marvel is dumb now.
@jessy1652
@jessy1652 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ricojuelez
@ricojuelez 11 ай бұрын
One Above All created all existent, and the Multiverse itself. And only being near his power was The One Below All. Marvel power scaling really has gone wild in the last several years. Almost like DBZ, where it is getting to the point where scaling tends to mean less than ever nowadays.
@averageday
@averageday Жыл бұрын
What are you guys saying? 😂 everyone is more powerful than everyone else! Stan Lee said himself: it’s up to the writer who is the stronger one.
@johnnyrios774
@johnnyrios774 Жыл бұрын
But the writers are the one above all thats what stan lee said so how can a characrer created by the writer be more poweful than a writer with an eraser
@kappadarwin9476
@kappadarwin9476 Жыл бұрын
@@johnnyrios774 Its because comics change. Canon is written and re established same with writers coming and going.
@johnnyrios774
@johnnyrios774 Жыл бұрын
@@kappadarwin9476 true i just feel its lazy to claim every new or reoccuring characrer is more powerful the the previously etsablished god in the marvel universe when the god himself doesn really interven in the mulitverse alot of the times the one above all is hands off like when they did it eith the beyonder is was dope them being more powerful than the tribunal but not as poweful as the one above all made the grounded and interesting now everyone and their grandmas stronger than toaa so its like ok? Whos next after that?
@Wandasolosurfavs
@Wandasolosurfavs Жыл бұрын
Uhm no... there are limits cuz Black Widow can't be more powerful than Odin
@grandmoffgavin8895
@grandmoffgavin8895 Жыл бұрын
I remember commenting on all of Rob's videos back in the day to get him to cover Muse. Damn I've been here a while
@HenryOManly
@HenryOManly Жыл бұрын
Everyone is almost as powerful as the TOAA now 🥱
@jdgosser
@jdgosser Жыл бұрын
I’m so sick of there always being another character more powerful than….it starts getting ridiculous. But don’t worry…Thanos, Blue Marvel, Franklin Richards, or Squirrel Girl for that matter will somehow always be able to beat the most god-like, omnipotent beings in existence. When I was young reading comics and Galactus showed up on the scene you couldn’t wait to get ahold of that issue because you knew it was serious. Now if Galactus shows up it’s like…yawn…anyone can beat him, no biggie, plus he’s a nobody with 100 beings more powerful than him…whoop-de-do.
@rawdog5506
@rawdog5506 Жыл бұрын
Marvel is becoming more and more unreadable everytime they decide they wanna change their Cosmic heirarchy. Now we have TOAA not atually being the TOAA. Its becoming convoluted and silly. Now we have a being who takes the shape of a Crown as supposedly the most powerful until a writer writing a comic decides its not the most powerful. Seems to me Marvel has a bunch of writers having a pissing contest. Hulks writer has the Mother of Horrors we have this crown and Oblivion. Which writer decides what all powerful being is the true all powerful? And I didn't even mention TOBA who is TOAA Hulked out who defeated Urdru created by Mother of Horrors who was supposed to be superior to TOAA.
@aarojpoll
@aarojpoll Жыл бұрын
It's almost as if when you write a 60 to 70 years story eventually it becomes so weighty that it collapses in on itself and you have to start over it amazes me how comic book fans always want something new that never changes
@mathewsydney8929
@mathewsydney8929 3 ай бұрын
@@aarojpoll They should just do a complete reboot. It's 2025 a (younger) Xavier has just opened his first mutant school with (rebooted) X-Men and they face off against (rebooted) Magneto and Evil Brotherhood... throw in some sentinels... leave Phoenix out of it... and just go back to great simple story-telling with an emphasis on characterization and action. All this cosmodrama is confusing and, TBO, not very interesting.
@aarojpoll
@aarojpoll 3 ай бұрын
@@mathewsydney8929 I take a reboot with younger characters for the movies but not for the comic books
@lav2878
@lav2878 Жыл бұрын
8:18 when all things cease to exist all that will remain is mr immortal.
@edwinjusto5739
@edwinjusto5739 Жыл бұрын
The “crown above all” what a laughable thing to say, if you are the one above all then nothing by name can be above you, otherwise your name is false, whoever keeps writing this nonsense garbage should be fired
@TheOne0867
@TheOne0867 Жыл бұрын
I swear, it’s like they’re just having a game of, “My character is more powerful than yours! Give me your ring pop!”
@edwinjusto5739
@edwinjusto5739 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@TheOne0867yeah they dont understand the problem with the concept of omnipotence theres a reason why they have characters described as nigh-omnipotence cuz you can be unreasonably powerful and still be defeated cuz you have a limit omnipotence doesn’t you could never match it or do anything against it, and the one above all has been threated as true omnipotence for the longest time, its like the writers of this garbage never read any prior comics of the concepts they speak of and they just wanna make their own shit a discard the established story, its the same nonsense that they did with dr manhattan in DC they just take characters and create nonsense
@EdgmundOza
@EdgmundOza Жыл бұрын
9:08 jean grey really needs some chapstick
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462 Жыл бұрын
I had honestly thought that The One Above All would have been the most, if not even more powerful, because of the passing of Stan Lee. Now they are all reworking the hierarchy of Marvel's Gods, and it kind of bums me out that the One Above All is not going to be the strongest anymore, but I will stay along for the ride.
@charlesaishanna1038
@charlesaishanna1038 10 ай бұрын
This sounds alot like Dark Souls 2 logic. Wear crown. Become outer presence. Watch and learn.
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570
@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570 Жыл бұрын
I can see this whole era being retconned. Pretty soon…
@----------------------------_.
@----------------------------_. 11 ай бұрын
And Oblivion is just stares at existence of what ever it maybe or what it might be. it doesn't care as white hot room is just a book of empty pages, and all power they amassed is just scatter stuff, in existence just to form another toy (whatever power, matter, energies, dimensions, etc. they come up with) and oblivion is just entire pristine black canvass of unimaginable oceanic vastness. waiting for entire creation to return into himself. waiting for the right time that the fruit we called "existence" might become ripe to be pluck and eaten. in its true and absolute, oblivion is the one that ends all concepts, kills hope, erase life, unmake the gods, and ender of all that once came from it.
@edgargalicia5071
@edgargalicia5071 11 ай бұрын
Not really, the Phoenix gives meaning to Oblivion and the fact is that the phoenix represents 3 fundamental things life, death, and rebirth will never cease to exist, therefore Oblivion will never be alone
@----------------------------_.
@----------------------------_. 11 ай бұрын
@@edgargalicia5071 Oblivion doesn't need companionship. what you said is a components that is part of existence. Existence is already the equal weight that define sum of its opposites. The truth is Oblivion is the Actual true summation of everything cause it is where came from and it ends. and every gap and between creation and destruction oblivion exist. Oblivion doesn't need to be define with small concept of life, death and rebirth cause its above it. there is existence beyond life and death is may die at face of it, rebirth is small pause which it pass through a small gap into nothing before become something. It's like you want the universe to recognize and acknowledge you, that at the end of the day your part of him and that would be hurl to space with no care if your existence has its meaning or purpose and when your due to end with it your done. and not your entire being can do anything about it. life phoenix is tied with existence what every life properties it has it will abide to rules of it concepts and to a being that birthed it and unmakes it is just a trivial thing.
@edgargalicia5071
@edgargalicia5071 11 ай бұрын
@@----------------------------_. In any case, without life or anyone looking at Oblivion, it is like a 0, it is nothingness itself, there is not much relevance, although that is not true either, you will never be alone since TOA exists, and also the phoenix
@----------------------------_.
@----------------------------_. 11 ай бұрын
What relevance you need to know is that oblivion achieve to return the entire vastness of omniverse, back into prestine black canvass untarnished by uncertainty and existence than itself. Oblivion doesn't need to be observed cause it is there without you need to even think of it. It wants by its nature for you to be unmade by the unmaker from which you all spring from the primordial soup. TOAA is no longer the powerhouse anymore as you perceive it to be and along with phoenix. All of those came after oblivion will return to him. TOAA is not the summation of existence his mere part of it with astronomical power yes but the re-construction of cosmic hierarchy is now changing (beyonders is just usurpers of the power they have, dominion as a new concept starting to become new cosmic entity that might become beyond astronomical is power and potential and other stuff). the only thing that is certain of all is oblivion and in the grand picture its is just "oblivion" and "existence itself "( that includes all gods, other abstracts, reality, other beings mortal and immortal, other worlds and cosmos, etc) @@edgargalicia5071
@НеЮтубер-ы7
@НеЮтубер-ы7 19 күн бұрын
Забвение лишь абстракция Он не выше трибунала или феникса
@dabbernaffyjones4063
@dabbernaffyjones4063 Жыл бұрын
Just watch anime, the writing is actually good lol
@corporealaegis9634
@corporealaegis9634 Жыл бұрын
"It should've been me, not him!"
@Dragon_Armada
@Dragon_Armada Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Marvel is finally doing something akin to DC's hierarchy.
@lazydaygamereviews
@lazydaygamereviews Жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting Defenders to tie into Xmen.
@joeygoldberg6007
@joeygoldberg6007 4 ай бұрын
At the very end of everything you look up in the distance and see a bubble choice sheet that says “all of the above”
@JustDoingReviews
@JustDoingReviews Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy Marvel’s finally doing something with Enigma. By the way where is the sequel to Defenders Beyond
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462
@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462 Жыл бұрын
Something that can exist but does not exist at the same time, where it is something that represents nothing, is like zero because zero is a definitive number on the number lines and other mathematical and accounting things, but zero amounts to nothing, so you can put it in or leave it out, either way the result is the same. If you have one zero or if something is zero, that means that it is basically nothing, but it is also classified as zero, so it is nothing, but it is still defined. So it can be something and nothing at the same time. Maybe that makes sense. Maybe it does not, but there is something there with, "it exists, and it does not exist at the same time." Someone explain this Oblivion stuff to me please?
@dakilnig
@dakilnig Жыл бұрын
Hey buddy can i request that you explain the war against the ancient atlantians. Where the justice league dies
@Apocal7964
@Apocal7964 10 ай бұрын
They have already said there is someone just as powerful as the one above all already. When Reed Sue and Johnny went to heaven to get Ben Grimm back they met the one above all who looked like Jack Kirby at the time was getting off the phone with “someone he collaborates with alot” there, so yeah it’s already been mentioned a bunch of years ago.
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