Thanks for the shout-out, Crabbok! We had the opportunity to talk to Will Shick and decided to do so. Got a lot of great Legion information, but the Armada discussion we had to bring to the masses. - Ken
@josephmoberly21092 ай бұрын
I was talking to an ex FFG employee at GenCon and it’s crazy to me how much armada stuff they had planned, including physical product, before they moved to AMG that never saw the light of day. I hope some of it still happens with the help of those who take over in the future
@dr.boring70222 ай бұрын
I'm curious, what all stuff were they planning?
@josephmoberly21092 ай бұрын
@@dr.boring7022 They had the Lucrehulk model designed and printed and were testing gameplay for one
@Bane19772 ай бұрын
I'd just be happy for am announcement for one or two more rounds of reprints
@tater44342 ай бұрын
I'm really sick of AMG. Just leave Armada alone.
@lionhugs24182 ай бұрын
if I was going to play Armada against a CIS player without the Lucrehulk, I'd be like "where's the evil capitalist space donut?"
@snykyninja56322 ай бұрын
It's not going to happen, but I'd love it if the Ocober thing was that they're now selling stls of armada ships. They can keep making money from it without production costs, and we can get more ships.
@charlescassels38262 ай бұрын
I don’t know, Will seems to be big on bait and switch tactics. Probably going to be a digital obstacle expansion with downloadable destroyed Venator, Arquitens, ISD, and hammerhead corvettes that you can print off yourself and mount on cardboard yourself.
@axel09222 ай бұрын
I mean, that’s better than nothing
@43jayboe2 ай бұрын
Love that armada is getting some love. Such a cool concept and one of my favorite parts of all of star wars is the massive naval battles!
@CamillusofRome2 ай бұрын
I agree that a comprehensive rule book would be great, along with adjusting and cleaning up some things (like salvoing an ignition attack within salvo range, etc).
@andrewweber14632 ай бұрын
Like many are saying it'd be nice to just get some reprints. I feel like if they've already got the production system figured out they would just be printing money, but probably all they're suppliers have already moved on as well. Oh well 3d print it is. It'd also br nice to have a way of printing out our own official cardboard since that's often whats stopping 3d prints from fully replacing official product
@SuperDbergman2 ай бұрын
Can x-wing go back too??? Maybe not though... The fan version 3.0 will probably be better than 2.5
@indy_com2 ай бұрын
Inb4 the October thing that's in the works is a deal to hand Armada back to FFG with plans for Physical content.
@EliWintercross2 ай бұрын
I want to believe that so much lol
@EgoEroTergum2 ай бұрын
Now you're just playing with my emotions man.
@rightwoke2 ай бұрын
Cruel to get hopes up so much.
@Hailthecloudslayer2 ай бұрын
Highly doubt
@Jacksonstinksbad2 ай бұрын
All the ffg guys who worked on it were fired for incompetence
@johnluzifer8472 ай бұрын
The death star is still missing on my table. That's still due!
@AlfredJuul-q8s2 ай бұрын
As a rebel player, I support this.
@jimmydarkmoon72862 ай бұрын
I Hope for a lucrehulk-class battleship
@LSRibs2 ай бұрын
Hear me out, buy a huge circular table.....paint it to look like the death star, and use it as a table top to play on. You could even add a mechanic for the laser if you wanted.
@johnluzifer8472 ай бұрын
@@LSRibs cool idea but I got two left hands. Love stuff which is ready to use.
@WillFredward71672 ай бұрын
And please please please give me the Mon Calamari dreadnaught
@shaunkrogulski96192 ай бұрын
I think an updated rulebook is the most likely. I wish it were more but with them closing this chapter of the game I doubt anything more substantive will come out.
@Shraken2 ай бұрын
Shame people bought up all the Armada stock to resell at ludicrous prices, you know because you wouldn't want new players.
@LSRibs2 ай бұрын
No joke....I've been trying to complete my fleets and prices are quite high.
@KingTiggerTank2 ай бұрын
I failed to get my Venator and to get one now is over $300. I will never be able to get my Armada Venator.
@timvandergrinten73882 ай бұрын
3d printing one and painting it yourself is the best option
@bennickell84772 ай бұрын
@KingTiggerTank AMG caused that not the community
@KingTiggerTank2 ай бұрын
Oh don’t get me wrong I’m not blaming the community. AMG absolutely caused this and scalper scum took advantage of it.
@Tomreese1302 ай бұрын
Most likely a Rapid Reinforcements III. Sort of feels like beating a dead horse at this point. Was hoping it'd be another studio buying Armada and X-Wing, but I guess the jury is still out on that.
@thrindalsgameroom65502 ай бұрын
I don’t know what AMG’s motivation would be for doing this. I have a hard time believing they would do this for good will.
@ThatBillmanGuy2 ай бұрын
Is it them digging up the corpse and flipping it off just for good measure? Sorry to sound cynical. Lol
@Crabbok2 ай бұрын
Oh I get it. It could be bad or could be good - I'm just gonna lean towards optimism right now since that's the better option for my mental health!
@grottoguru64732 ай бұрын
Interesting that we're getting news after they publicly announced ending everything Armada. It seems potentially likely for Armada to be switched to FFG or someone else?
@exclam54112 ай бұрын
Republic Arquitens and limited Rebel Quasar Fire are probably the lowest hanging fruit for a RR3.
@JefferyDejnowski2 ай бұрын
Of that, I would agree with you. AMG dropped the ball not having a Republic Arquitens. They could have made a boatload of cash just reprinting Arquitens.
@auronsevent90722 ай бұрын
My only question is: Is there anyone we know who will support X-wing in the future?? I mean to continue printing the ships?? I still would collect a lot but I won't if the products running out of stocks everywhere...😢
@The8bitSammich2 ай бұрын
I know it's really unlikely, but I'd happily buy official print files. Models or cards or tokens or whatever. It would be nice to know I can replace stuff as it wears out over the coming years.
@Ch3f812 ай бұрын
I reckon it's going to be another large mission pack, and points update. Could be a large rules consolidation to with print and play cards.
@nicholashancock87292 ай бұрын
Glad Will was open to talking to so many content creators at GenCon. Seems like a pretty genuine dude.
@FreeFragUK2 ай бұрын
I'd kill for a pack of the Star Wars Armada Imperial Fighters II. I really wish they'd continue production of what's already there, even if it's just scaled down further from what it was. Failing that they should release files so we can 3d print the Armada stuff.
@clontroper52 ай бұрын
I don't know where you live, but I was looking for imp fighters 2 and was able to find several copies of it available from LFG shops that I found online. Many of which ship nationally at least. Ended up getting mine from some shop in New york
@kaiserwilhelm97432 ай бұрын
Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope.
@JasonWashburn-y1z2 ай бұрын
Armada is built on HOPE
@fizmo1002 ай бұрын
I'd love it if they just said they weren't going to be selling pre-painted models. Buying unpainted complete with cardboard and then painting it ourselves would be basically the same as most other models, and let's be honest, these aren't difficult to paint and make them look good.
@BestShifty2 ай бұрын
Whatever it is I almost don´t want it. The initial release of RR2 and the amount of playtesters they credit doesn´t insue confidence. At this point the community has already taken over so leave it at that.
@cincicruiser51552 ай бұрын
Yeah I feel this way too. I really don't want them dropping something ridiculously broken and leaving the community to just deal with it at the tournament level and having people not want to play with it at the casual level.
@Hailthecloudslayer2 ай бұрын
Same, RR was good for a couple updates but I’d be afraid of a major shake up like in X-Wing on the way put
@GreyG884792 ай бұрын
The idea of a combined rulebook is nice.
@robertpipereit57402 ай бұрын
New Rapid Reinforcements would be nice with a lot of possibilities, for example: Rogues and Villains Cards for GAR and CIS and the Gauntlet Fighter for both. Quite easy to prepare. Maybe even more ship cars like the Arquitens for the Republic.
@madviola1832 ай бұрын
I'm not an Armada player, but I wish you all the best with this! From that perspective, I feel like an RRG with rules forum updates and points updates would be a really nice send off from AMG to the community.
@SamA-gh3kq2 ай бұрын
This is so exciting! I've missed playing Armada and my friends have been sad it wasn't going anywhere
@bfmbassist2 ай бұрын
There’s gotta be a notebook of unused ideas floating around. AMG, hand that to the ARC guys and get out of the way.
@skylerross96422 ай бұрын
This is very refreshing to hear!! Knowing that it’s not just in the grave
@xenoserum2 ай бұрын
I'd like to see a full rule and faq booklet to download and pos some more game styles like how they did summa
@tonyrosaj2 ай бұрын
My guess would be some type of tournament kit for Worlds 25 with some different rules for that event.
@VictorKolbe2 ай бұрын
I got back into these games at a really interesting time.... really curious to see what the future is going to look like
@EliWintercross2 ай бұрын
I just hope AMG doesn’t leave Armada with a major rules change that fundamentally changes several key elements, trashes all the existing objectives, changes all the card art and kills the bid.
@robinatk2 ай бұрын
Tell me you’ve not tried the new SWL rules without telling me you’ve not tried the new SWL rules
@EliWintercross2 ай бұрын
@robinatk I tried it. I hated the changes. They also did this to X-wing too remember, they set a precedence.
@user-ce2br4wn7f2 ай бұрын
@@EliWintercross New rules are fine LMAO. Grow up.
@EliWintercross2 ай бұрын
@@user-ce2br4wn7f you grow up, people don't have to move to new editions if they don't want to buddy.
@KaliumKraehe2 ай бұрын
That is what will happen. They will bring either a change or a version of the game that emphasizes on some shatterpoint mechanics and leave the game at that stage then. Good thing is, the xommunity can just ignore that and keep playing the game as it is now.
@markray8142 ай бұрын
Great game and one I hope can get continued support
@minecraftman43702 ай бұрын
its nice that their keeping tournaments going, i still fell they need to finish the separatist and republic fleets
@rickmonson67932 ай бұрын
If it is points change, what is everybody thinking they might be? More tinkering with the Onagers? SSD changes? Etc?
@bobbyn.1302 ай бұрын
My best guess is just an "end of life" balance update/FAQ/errata
@skiprayable2 ай бұрын
If they change up the rules I hope they also release files to 3d print ships. Otherwise major rule changes would stink since everything is out of print
@sonofhonor2 ай бұрын
I would love to see a print run of packs that contain the cards and cardboard components for each ship.
@Zulfrak2 ай бұрын
A final Up-To-Date Rulebook and some Point updates is really all i want. The game is in a very neat position and its mostly minor points and wonky card textes. No need to make major changes or add stuff that ends up like RR2 Anakin.
@ThomasDunlap-l5p2 ай бұрын
Thanks for updates
@electronicscavenger26672 ай бұрын
I know physical is probably not going to happen, but if they would an upgrade kit with printed rules and all updated cards would be fantastic, but doubtful. Still excited to get something.
@devyndiaz60012 ай бұрын
I would love to see a (checks notes... not second edition...) "refresh" of the earlier released units and rules similar to what happened to Legion. Points, rules streamlining, and giving some squadrons updated keywords. Also the announcement timing of dropping X-wing and Armada to me felt more like getting ahead of the ministravaganza schedule release.
@coltonhubbard96Ай бұрын
I just need a Seperatist fleet and I’m set. So more stock and maybe a Lucrehulk would make me happy.
@PersonlApocalypz2 ай бұрын
Oh man. Id love some reprints but sadly my optimism for anything substantial has long gone
@TheEldarGuy2 ай бұрын
The Separatists are still a little empty. A drone controller ship would be useful. Only a few more physical products are needed, then a few additional cards that can be applied to the existing ships. More cards are always a good thing.
@RoscopantsAU2 ай бұрын
Probably key Armada characters for new Shatterpoint squads /s
@mitchellwarren59982 ай бұрын
New space game but the ships are all 25 percent bigger and use a new base.
@Palmerrip2 ай бұрын
Would a points update involve a whole round of new cards? Uhy... I haven't organized 2.0 yet now there MAY BE a 3.0... I would hope there are official printable cards for other legend ships or more more support for 3D prints: ie able to introduce vong, pirates or neutral factions.
@jamesmanning85552 ай бұрын
I would like to see all of the rapid reinforments printed like the large reprints of the original waves of cards.
@Tcolet12 ай бұрын
Im thinking some official print and play support. Probably a points rebalance and maybe a RR 3. Thiugh the combined rulebook would be nice.
@discrocisboss2 ай бұрын
Im hoping for alittle more stuff for Armada. What sucks is the day before they canceled it i bought the core set. loved it and wanted more
@Crabbok2 ай бұрын
There will be plenty more games to play and community balance and things to come.
@brians40162 ай бұрын
I wish we could have gotten a Republic Arquitens before the end. Appreciate the news, but digital/cardboard only doesn't really give me any excitement.
@imoutosan17012 ай бұрын
I always hope for the best. Experience, unfortunately, has taught me to expect the worst.
@Ironbudha232 ай бұрын
Very interesting. We shall see what happens.
@jasonwalls16072 ай бұрын
Armada news? YAY!
@canvas_7602 ай бұрын
Lets hope it comes!
@yagabajing5352 ай бұрын
I'm hoping against hope, that there is a reprint of all ships. This is the tabletop game I've wanted to get into more than any other, but have not had the time or money. Now, given limited supply, prices are going to skyrocket on Ebay.
@bradlaplante65182 ай бұрын
You think they are endorsing one of the "homebrew" teams? Basically outsource development for Armada and then still support organized play?
@jaxsowasylyk76742 ай бұрын
Love armada so much!
@flyingtosave2 ай бұрын
I will say that I am over all bummed about lossing X-wing and Armadda but am super hyped about Star Trek into the Unknow!
@kyleanderson11382 ай бұрын
It's a Lucrehulk! 😂 They wanted to go out with a bang, and after producing it they realized how broke it would make them and that's why they ended support! Swan Song Lucrehulk! October is my bday month so that would be perfect.
@David-ys4ud2 ай бұрын
Can AMG redeem themselves?! Probably not..
@KingTiggerTank2 ай бұрын
Hard for new players to join when all the sets are being sold by scalpers. I can’t finish my CIS GAR fleet because ships are now being sold for over $300.
@denverbarker98992 ай бұрын
Did Atomic Mass have a large presence at GenCon? Aren't they just a sub-division of Asmodee? If so, I heard their presence was not very consumer facing.
@sloths-df3gf2 ай бұрын
If selling pre-painted ships was proving difficult to do at the profit levels AMG wanted, why wouldn't AMG just manufacture and sell unpainted ships? The secondary market is doing this now, without the cardboard and cards that you ideally need to play.
@2007Charger35L2 ай бұрын
Be nice if it was a reprint. Hopefully they mess the rules. They are in a good spot I think. Although since AMG dropped it we can always choose to ignore what they do
@2007Charger35L2 ай бұрын
At least the dice and tools would be great
@joegroves25172 ай бұрын
It would really be nice if they tidied things up but don't make any real changes. It's definitely odd to see some of the gaps in the Republic and CIS as I scrambled to pick up all that stuff though I don't really trust them to make something new. Some errata and documents I think are the best case. Maybe some optional missions since they love those, but things in addition. At least with the game going out of production though, if they do change anything big no one will bother with it. I can't imagine there will be any AMG purists anywhere.
@Alawatakima2 ай бұрын
You been paying any attention to Sins of a Solar Empire 2? Can't wait for those Star Wars / Star Trek Mods :D
@vinmel32072 ай бұрын
Can‘t wait!
@eduardoescobar48162 ай бұрын
Interesting to wait and see
@azeronbloodmoone50762 ай бұрын
i'm still hoping they revive all games (armada/xwing/legion (although legion aint dead)) with KOTOR stuff but hey we can always dream
@raysandrarexxia9412 ай бұрын
My guess: Official templates for making content, as well as PvE.
@jnkthurman8572 ай бұрын
It’s probably a PDF, which I’m totally cool with.
@cffr66772 ай бұрын
When they would care about us they would establish like games Workshop did some order on Demand with slightly higher prises and maybe not painted and give everybody a last chance to complete there collection .... The only thing this Community needs the most are reprints when i see to what prices some ships are handled in Ebay
@acebadgerboy2 ай бұрын
Good news! 🎉
@ergolindt72992 ай бұрын
Hope they dont just screw up card collection pack and make it obselete for a goodbye and spit in a face
@bobbyp50592 ай бұрын
Maybe this will be a graceful transfer back to FFG.
@Anallizator2 ай бұрын
Great news !!!
@captainmalheur2 ай бұрын
I hoping for rapid reinforcements III.
@jamescampbell8632 ай бұрын
If AMG are going to drop some new news for Armada - please have a change of plan for x-wing and don’t drop it!
@NewSquallor2 ай бұрын
It's a ghost fleet then...
@Ty-yy7zr2 ай бұрын
The only thing I think that will save x wing and armada is if those games went back to FFG.
@Korrack2 ай бұрын
Sell it to GW! lol. Yeah they are expensive; but it seems to work per longevity. Picking up a kit of a squad of x wings to build and paint sounds kinda fun. Pure silly imagination of course. At least I have enough plastic at home to play forever; RIP SW
@danteunknown21082 ай бұрын
Likely just an asset dump of whatever they tried to last pitch in the studio. Awhile back Shick said the factions were not at a ship count parity in an interview and that that seemed like the next goal. My money is on you get the RR version of a ship that isn't made and you can 3D print or proxy your own. And it'll probably be a bunch of terrible design too
@YaBoi_Kob2 ай бұрын
I was hoping armada was cookin something
@thomasparksjr81972 ай бұрын
This has something related to Armada but what happened to Mel’s miniatures?
@raysandrarexxia9412 ай бұрын
What is ARC? (ARK? Do you have a link?)
@isaacpendley56562 ай бұрын
Exciting!
@devilman21972 ай бұрын
Unless FFG get the game back i cant see anything significant happening after they gutted the store front and stock tbh.