Nuke Rushes Are About To Get STUPID - Beyond All Reason (BAR)

[@bitslammer]

Makes you wonder how quickly 2 teammates could get a nuke up together. It's certainly a gamble on the early game, but could work. That's what's cool about BAR is that your team did everything right to allow this. Just one player slacking and it might not have happened.

[@row5754]

I once shot the first nuke at 9mins at Rowsetta. Imo it's not worth the investment to weaken your front that's is funneling metal into you to get the nuke up faster.

[@MoreDrongo]

Indeed. If one player is not pulling their weight, it crumbles quickly.

[@Leonhart_93]

I didn't get why air scouts aren't standard in this game. In Sup Com they were standard. Now I think it's because of the lower danger of insta-dying. So the air scouting will just become meta, problem solved.

[@EncryptedLiberty]

I think that more than anything, this shows the importance of scouting. Just seeing what your opponents are up, just knowing about the nukes ahead of time, is the main key to keeping this strategy from working. Air players getting an air screen up is important, but they should be scouting regularly for the rest of the team as well.

[@dfcrcesar]

To fast tech in this map you don t need anything near the ammount of buildings you did, ressurector bots, 2 or 3, can keep your energy high together with a energy storage for a long time in this map, and you use way less metal

[@MoreDrongo]

I will test this, thank you!

[@grahamelliott9506]

love how we've somehow managed to merge MOBA and RTS ... you've got your lane players, your support, your carry

[@thisisachannel12]

MOBA as a genre started as a mini game in an RTS.

[@iliasshogenov5929]

I played a game yesterday, where me and jdog nuke rushed each other, but I had a good air mate and he scouted his nuke, so we had anti ready, but they didn’t. Launched rockets at the same time. Was epic

[@kralmir]

i dont know how much metal is in a patch of forest. but surely there are better ways to explode your commander than to destroy an entire forest like at 4:25 if youre already willing to kill a commander for just 1250 metal.

[@stuh4645]

10:50 you said you were given units by a team mate? How, I can't find anything on this?

[@kiler273]

2:40 - that's the op spot, cos it has the most metal on land - you get t2 land/air con and you can upgrade them all, spartan for example has to get t2 ship for underwater mexes & t2 con to upgrade land ones

[@dave7526]

closed it when he said he ignored the geo in that spot xD

[@MoreDrongo]

geo is useless bro ignore that shit

[@OryAlle]

9:54 the problem here is your conversion slider is too low, you can see the nuke keep stalling out on energy. Drag it higher and that won't be an issue.

[@JadeSune]

This just makes me wanna avoid this map, LOL For team games, lane maps and maps without chokes it is~

[@MoonManPictures]

Ha! I knew it when i saw your name pop up that it's good old Aussie drongo from AOE3. Great tho have to in the BAR community!

[@kingfisher1638]

Great... now this map is going to be even worse for nuke rushing. damn you Drongo.

[@Ascuded]

Is this supreme commander at home 😂?? I am digging it

[@ironyconfident]

You're a monster. Well done.

[@ironyconfident]

I tried this build against the computer. Got 3 nukes off on their backline

[@llamaboss1434]

Nukes should have a 25min hard lock. You can't LAUNCH a nuke before then but you can build and store em. Change my mind.

[@bledonyou]

Might as well just remove them at that point, everyone will start building AN at 20 minutes and call it a day. Removes the threat.

[@dustyottenheim3364]

Arm nukes have a smaller explosion then core nukes, but arm nukes load faster!

[@MuhammadKhan-hu4bs]

Hey Drongo, can you make a tutorial video for this game?

[@bigblue4364]

Well... Time to avoid this map for a few weeks while people forget this travesty....

[@EverTokki]

Can you make a video explaining the mods (widgets) you use?

[@majormajorasic]

12:10 Armada nuke is worse than Cortex nuke, smaller AoE so less boom for the buck.

[@Leonhart_93]

Not completely true, the Armada nuke is faster to build for the downside of smaller AOE. That's why the nuke rushes favor Armada.

[@ericb7937]

More of a reason that the opponent should be scouting more

[@mr.owlcat5010]

Geothermal is op for nuke rush. That's why they nerf one map with geothermal with it

[@NUBSAUCETV]

1700 people know these dark secrets now. Some people consider this ability...unnatural.

[@andyderp6473]

Is this all because of the convo we had in snoopas?lol

[@dubhd4r4]

You're really counting on your front, I don't think it will hold versus good players fronting if their geo guy is pushing.

[@_D_Bean]

its quicker than most build, but Im also still a newb, but what I have read is that most people nuke rushes, fire their nuke about 13-15 min, so yours is about 2 min quicker which is prob also why their anti nuke wasn't up yet. I actually think you just forced the develpors to nerf nukes, bcs that seems too stronk xD

[@ericb7937]

No nerf, people need to scout more

[@bitslammer]

I don't think it needs a nerf. Doing this is really a high risk gamble. So much could have gone wrong and that would have wrecked the mid game. It's a gutsy move that looks OP when it works.

[@Lodosswar100]

It's really not much risk on this map

[@_D_Bean]

@@bitslammer I agree on most maps the risk is too high, but on supreme it's very doable in most lobby's at least imo 😁

[@virgiliosimudlan4923]

you can emp anti nuke to bypass them and nuke em

[@eatashzombie8765]

This is disgraceful and yet so brilliant hahah

[@platysplatys3967]

Im hitting your spot with attack in 6 mins. Without units and comm, you would be dead big time. So, yeah, not really applicable unless enemies let you.

[@MoreDrongo]

Indeed, if our allies let the attack past - sure!

[@Scout887]

very underwhelming nuke explosion. In FAF, the nuke is as bright as looking inte sun like it should be, something special, a Highlight, not just a bigger explosion like this, how disappointing.

[@manumaster1990]

nice

[@Shrewdoregano9]

Is this the new aoe4 update ?

[@yevanasvetya5486]

nyuk

[@kiler273]

:)