The Greatest Misinformation Campaign in History

[@dvdv8197]

It's so disheartening and infuriating to see that time and time again, criminals WIN and become DISGUSTINGLY WEALTHY while 99,99% of us suffer. 😢😤

[@denelson83]

More like 99.99999 percent.

[@Turdfergusen382]

Yeah and 99.98% of those people are fighting with each other because media told them they hate each other.

[@nuance9000]

And guess what they're getting rich from!? That's right... All the debt we owe 😅. Stop taxing the poor!

[@denelson83]

@@nuance9000 Tax. The. Rich.

[@unclebozo9845]

yall Europeans using commas as decimals is so confusing lol

[@KesSharann]

People still hope corporations "do the right thing"? That's amazing naivete.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

Yep, hasn't it been known for decades that oil companies were funding scientists that were skeptical of man made climate change? And isn't it old news that the scientific consensus is that it is happening, the main question is how fast and how bad is it going to get along with what can be done about it.

[@yishnir]

The current 'administration' is, this very moment, arguing in court against America's children, saying they don't have any obligation to ensure children can survive in fifty years.

[@Spencer-wc6ew]

A lot of people still assume corporations are doing the right thing.

[@whysocurious7366]

Poor libertarians exist.

[@JanelleGodwin-zl8li]

That's all Americans have been relying on since America became America. And Americans have repeatedly proven to everyone& all on 🌎 that the nicest adjective that can be used to describe them is naive 🥴🤪🤡🤥

[@bekind5738]

The US Govt. needs to stop paying oil companies to the tune of $646 BILLION every year per Senate Committee on the Budget, Senator Whitehouse, on fossil fuel subsidies. I in tend to vote BLUE straight down the ticket. Trump has already come out promising oil companies big tax relief in exchange for a 1 billion dollar donation. In any other country, that is called BRIBERY,

[@fge00]

You've got it backwards. The oil companies own the politicians, as long as the money comes in they will kill us all for it.

[@fiendz9116]

LOUDER!!!!

[@judithsmith9582]

Exactly. Why are we still subsidizing big oil?

[@fiendz9116]

@judithsmith9582 Good point! Want clean energy and less externalities? Stop the subsidies!

[@chris2790]

😂 You don't know how the government works then do you? THIS IS IT. Corruption. Day in and day out. Our system is BROKEN.

[@marcamorello2803]

I work as an architect in the transportation industry. I think it would be a very pertinent story to discuss how car and oil companies destroyed our very exceptional passenger rail lines. Having a well functioning transit system is a big factor in slowing climate change and a public travesty that these companies had taken away the right of people to exist without paying for an automobile in the majority of this country. Not to mention the unsustainable land use that comes from car centrism. There should be a joint civil lawsuit against the oil and car giants!!

[@dominicfucinari1942]

I've heard that the middle ranked researchers and developers within the car companies wanted to design high-speed public transit systems that would coexist with cars. Their own salaries would be the same, and they wouldn't have to put people behind the wheel whom it wasn't safe to. But the top-ranked wheelers and dealers had their way, and were panicked about how any existence of public transit would cut into their executive bonuses.

[@Dsexh_dsexh]

I’m hoping New York joins California in this lawsuit

[@Dsexh_dsexh]

I’m hoping New York joins California in this lawsuit

[@Dsexh_dsexh]

I’m hoping New York joins California in this lawsuit

[@Dsexh_dsexh]

I’m hoping New York joins California in this lawsuit

[@bongodave13]

The worst crimes are perfectly legal.

[@Pomeray8]

What the State does it calls law. What individuals do, the State calls crime. I'm paraphrasing Max Stirner.

[@browningcm]

Lawful evil is still evil

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

Exactly! And I’m sure the WEF and the billionaires who run the oil companies will do a great job coming up with solutions. It’s so smart that we’ve put them in charge of fixing the problems they caused. And they definitely won’t use this crises to F the S out of the working class somehow. I’m totally sure the “solutions” won’t be worse than the problems bc we have such a benevolent government and ruling class who really care about us and the planet. 😐

[@nedludd7622]

@@Pomeray8 Oh, a libertarian I see.

[@What_do_I_Think]

Because the criminals are making the laws.

[@lauraw.7008]

After all; “capitalism should reign supreme, we don’t want public works, community transit to succeed because we cannot make money on it”, corporations worldwide.

[@Praisethesunson]

It's against youtube TOS to describe what we would have to do if we actually thought what these ghouls have done to humanity should be punished.

[@grmpEqweer]

Pretty much.

[@SpecialSP]

God forbid that google would get it's liddle' fe-fes hurt …

[@nuance9000]

It's actually really simple. Stop giving oil subsidies and tax all profits for use with cleanup and public transportation investments.

[@bongodave13]

@@nuance9000 Sounds simple. But, Republicans. And Democrats.

[@Iggi-mv2ux]

@@nuance9000 Simple... Right. It's only simple until you try to do it.

[@ThePbird1]

After WWII Standard Oil, General Motors and Firestone conspired to buy up all streetcar lines and junked them. They were found guilty of conspiracy and fined five thousand dollars. Gee! I am shocked that they would do something like this!

[@qjtvaddict]

Globally they were junked

[@littleredpony6868]

I would use public transportation if it was available for me to use

[@eric2500]

See two movies - Chinatown and Roger Rabbit, weirdly good on this.

[@robertherriot7887]

This also took place in Australia

[@pamparker4047]

truth

[@AaronTheHarris]

The problem is no matter how much they extract from the companies themselves, the people who have personally perpetrated this devastation are walking away with hundreds of millions to themselves. They'll let the company go bankrupt before they give over a single cent.

[@sansalt11]

Sue them all….😅

[@CryoCoffinVampire]

Oil executives should be charged with crimes against humanity.

[@tonytooshort]

Here here

[@dominicfucinari1942]

I hope there are enough fundamental similarities between the lawsuit against oil, as the one against tobacco that was settled in '998, that California would have good odds of winning.

[@RichardDuncan-ju1xk]

They would win in court.

[@Praisethesunson]

That would mean more if major corporations didn't own the courts​@@RichardDuncan-ju1xk

[@DavidOlver]

Climate “Crisis” End-Game kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnavqHSwdpVqqqM

[@sayyadinasri]

Auto industry should be held accountable as well as the Koch brothers

[@larryrobinson08]

Sadly David Koch has passed on, or maybe he’s frozen till science can create a Frankenstein monster for real???

[@nuance9000]

​@@larryrobinson08Naw dude. Cryogenically freezing yourself requires decapitation and the freezing cracks and shatters your nerve and muscle lining. Just throw my bones to the dogs -Diogenes

[@noodles2459]

Remember cars were popularized by henry ford a fascist.

[@Praisethesunson]

​@@larryrobinson08Yes but the eviler Koch brother is still alive

[@DavidOlver]

Climate “Crisis” End-Game kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnavqHSwdpVqqqM

[@marvinsmith2116]

Remember learning about the robber barons in America. Never understood why they weren’t jailed. Instead, they’re the power. American economic system supports robber barons.

[@Smedley1947]

American economic system ---supports--- breeds robber barons. It's the goal of the system.

[@jamesburrows3602]

Boeing killed a guy. He even told a close friend if he committed "suicide" it was murder.

[@gregvisioninfosoft]

two boeing whistleblowers are no longer breathing.

[@senormusica81Gaming]

yep, two now (that we know of)

[@odettetenney409]

CORPORATIONS will do anything to save their ASS, even commit Murder..... And the Courts in the United States do Nothing, this means Crime Does Pay ....Where is the JUSTICE ????????????

[@Eric-bh7jy]

Boeing killed hundreds and committed fraud.. they got a small fine

[@JXZ-JAM]

Yes, and BP Oil had dozens of reporters and investigators assassinated over the Deep Horizon spill. But good luck finding much on that now, the webs been pretty scrubbed clean. And thats 60 AFTER BP oil had the CIA help overthrow Irans democratically elected leader. So they could keep raping Iran of their oil. They are all owned, controlled or managed by the same damn line of people.

[@dvdv8197]

Privatize the gains and socialize the losses. 😢

[@OgdenM]

yeap

[@rickb3650]

This is literally the foundation of this nation. Granting power and protection to the very worst of humanity.

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

Yup! Same w the wars and the risky banking tactics. The government is so corrupted that idk why a single person believes they’ll do anything other than use this crises to F us more.

[@JoseLopez-tk4tq]

Example: 2008 financial crisis~private bankers make bad loans~get bailed out by public (that's you and I) taxpayers. The kicker: no CEO went to jail. Get the picture now?

[@rickb3650]

@@JoseLopez-tk4tq And it wasn't just the bankers. There was an open collusion between Treasury, the banks, the ratings agencies, and the tertiary industries to real estate.

[@antarart]

I lost my house in Santa Barbara to the Tea Fire....Now on a good day I am a digital nomad, on a bad day I am homeless! I have tried to buy a house again, but prices and interest have outpaced my affordability....

[@mikeoglen6848]

were you not Insured?

[@jeanineberna8458]

@@mikeoglen6848many in CA no longer are able to get home owners insurance, depending on where they live. I feel really bad for @antarart. Hopefully, this person can find a nice little trailer and a pickup truck & haul their home around the state!

[@frances4797]

🙏😢💔

[@danerogers9058]

Move out of California idiot.

[@davehendricks4824]

I would love to see a law passed that forbids ANY business that receives taxpayer money from lobbying.

[@havable]

I'd like to see one that just flat bans lobbying. Offering or receiving a bribe should come with a life sentence.

[@rjl5759]

That would be every green energy business.

[@davehendricks4824]

@@rjl5759 it would definitely include the oil industry!

[@codzymajor]

Expecting people to do things against their immediate interests is unrealistic. That is why the system is only getting worse not better. The politicians are getting donations that are needed to get and keep their position of power. Also it is easy easier to keep a few people, who have clear and overt goals, happy than a mass that has multiple and conflicting interests.

[@Smedley1947]

And that, my friend, is the Crux of the Biscuit-it always boils down to economics; it is always easier but more importantly, in our corrupt system, cheaper to buy those few in power than it is to do anything for the bulk of the citizens. Those who bribe/ lobby know that politicians have already sold out on every front so they are always the most reliable individuals to target so that legislation can be passed favoring the lobbyist's clients. This is not a theory, this is a law of nature. Human Nature. And frankly, many humans are not good people.

[@matthewsanchez7953]

The bloated owner class continues to get more fabulously rich while we all continue to get poorer. All it cost them was humanity's future. They ought to be fed to vultures.

[@whatthebeepvideos]

I think we should remember the example of Johan De Witt.

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

They’re gonna do the same with climate policy. We put these criminals in charge of coming up with policy solutions to fix the problems they caused. I’m sure the WEF and the billionaires who run the oil companies will do a great job coming up with solutions. It’s so smart that we’ve put them in charge of fixing the problems they caused. And they definitely won’t use this crises to F the S out of the working class somehow. I’m totally sure the “solutions” won’t be worse than the problems bc we have such a benevolent government and ruling class who really care about us and the planet. 😐

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

Now you’ll just have to buy carbon credits, oh wait. You won’t be able to afford them an they won’t help solve the problem. I’m sure the WEF and the billionaires who run the oil companies will do a great job coming up with solutions. It’s so smart that we’ve put them in charge of fixing the problems they caused. And they definitely won’t use this crises to F the S out of the working class somehow. I’m totally sure the “solutions” won’t be worse than the problems bc we have such a benevolent government and ruling class who really care about us and the planet. 😐

[@CassilovesMocha]

Earth's future.*** 😊 I just gotta say this, Homosapins ARE the most invasive animals on the planet. It always seems like we are destroying all different kinds of ecosystems or pushing different species to extinction.

[@qjtvaddict]

And they call you a monster for saying this

[@lauraw.7008]

Sadly, oil companies and other large corporations are intertwined with our retirement accounts.😢 and the shareholders will suffer more than the executives. You KNOW that’s going to have a negative impact on maintaining support for making them pay. This is one BIG reason to not privatize all the things on which our communities have come to depend. End the cap on social security contributions for starters.

[@shroomyk]

As much as I appreciate the lawsuit, I don't think it will save us. Companies pay out and continue with business as usual. They make way too much money doing what they are doing, and the politicians don't want to lose those bribes. That's why the law allows companies to purchase their way out of regulations via carbon credits rather than actually changing anything.

[@kylezo]

of course it won't. protection for predatory capitalist enterprise is codified in the structure of american governance and cannot be changed without constitutional amendment; but more importantly, the global imperialist project that is capitalist exploitation has grown far beyond American government. mega corps and fossil fuel companies hold more power and cohesion across global lines than any other institution in modern day civilization including the US military apparatus (which is the #1 purchaser of these products and the #1 emitter of harmful emissions). for all intents and purposes, capitalism is an overarching phantom nation that controls all other imperial outposts and colonies no matter the country name. uprooting the inverted power dynamic is the only solution, which is why piecemeal reform within capitalism under neoliberal rule will never, ever result in success. democracy plays second fiddle to capitalist agendas.

[@jjoohhhnn]

Hey, they're called super-PAC campaign contributions and charitable donations to privately owned and operated non-profits. Not bribes, it's mostly legal.

[@shroomyk]

@@jjoohhhnn I'm gonna assume this is sarcasm but it's so hard to tell these days.

[@jjoohhhnn]

@@shroomyk lol, yeah america does seem beyond parody at this point.

[@RP-uu7oq]

As much as I love what this channel tries to do, I agree. It's all too little, too late.

[@ronbridges3933]

“They” won’t pay for anything. “They” never do. Their customers will.

[@Novusod]

To all those supporting climate change: You are the carbon they want to reduce.

[@CatCaretakerID]

They do sometimes have to pay, the problem the money doesn't make its way to the people who were hurt.

[@Roses-lilac]

And any politician who says “oh dear, I was misled”, is lying. They got paid off!

[@mikeoglen6848]

But, there is an important question: Who are "They"? Is it anyone who drives a car? Heats his house? Gets on a Plane? Who?

[@UCLAdrummer]

Or the government via the taxpayers.

[@kimhorton6109]

Why is the US government subsidizing big Oil every year? Politicians make all sorts of noise about EV subsidies but Big Oil has years of very expensive subsidies. In 2022 Oil subsidies were $11 billion dollars.

[@dvdv8197]

Greed is not the desire for more, it's the desire for more at the expense of others and Mother Earth itself. 😢

[@JohnT.4321]

That is how capitalism works since its inception.

[@denelson83]

There is a reason greed is one of the _seven deadly sins._

[@arabcadabra8863]

@@JohnT.4321 It is the fundamental premise of capitalism.

[@JohnT.4321]

@@arabcadabra8863 Profits over people and anything that gets in the way.

[@3nrika]

Greed is excessive by definition.

[@Bob78]

You can get put in prison for selling drugs which aren't even that bad, or even doing an abortion in some states, but when the CEO of one of the world's largest oil companies spends billions on ending the world, he gets to be secretary of state? Sounds like a fair society to me

[@mtn1793]

Even worse than the best and brightest that took us into Vietnam. Come to think of it they’re pretty much the same circles.

[@dotmurphy7279]

Ole tillerson wouldn't have been sec of state without trump. Too many people are still enamored with trump. After the tobacco companies conduct why is anyone surprised.

[@havable]

@@mtn1793 The oilman crowd is the one who lied us into Iraq.

[@havable]

@@dotmurphy7279 They banned smoking but they won't ban PFAs because the entire goal is to give everyone cancer.

[@mikes2381]

​@@dotmurphy7279 No he would not. Trump put him in office and almost no one else would have thought to do such an idiotic and unconscionable thing. Maybe the Heritage Foundation. And ofc Rex himself.

[@lauraw.7008]

And let’s not forget water rights for our communities and our farms; corporations are stealing (‘buying’) water rights from farms and communities😢😢😢

[@jacobwiens659]

Good luck to California in getting these scumbags to pay

[@hw-rg7gn]

Big Tobacco was brought down by a lawsuit 20 years ago. Civil lawsuits are one of the few strong protections of the 99% remaining in the US.

[@nuance9000]

Good luck to the wealthiest and most populous state who also drives the most? There's federalism and there's feudalism; one is better than the other 🤪

[@dominicfucinari1942]

@@nuance9000 Just because California has more wealth per capita than the southeastern states doesn't mean they favor dirty energy. Plus, people don't enjoy crowded roads and *having* to rely on cars because there's no alternatives. You should be mad at the top-ranked car company executives for sowing car supremacist city design!

[@piedpiper1172]

@@nuance9000 California’s population drives a lot of total miles because it’s the biggest population, but their average mile per citizen is lower than the national average: “while populous California accounts for 340 billion miles driven each year - more than any other state - the average driver only covers 12,500 miles annually, less than the nationwide average.” Wyoming is 1st with 24,069 miles a year per driver. Mississippi, New Mexico, Missouri, and Georgia round out the top 5. When you have the most people it’s almost inevitable you’ll have the highest total of any given thing. That’s why we generally use per capita stats to compare policy outcomes between places with different populations. Source: Federal Highway Administration data.

[@dgloom]

The scumbags won't pay. Customers of the scumbags will pay. With tobacco, those that still smoked paid. We ALL still use oil. The dividends and bonuses will still be paid.

[@matthewickman]

Hey wow! This lawsuit could be big news for the people of the US and possibly the world. Let's get these corporations! We'll go after Bayer next!

[@jf-be4zy]

Sorry to tell you but nothing is going to happen to the oil companies. They own congress and the courts.

[@stacyfiske7903]

I like your enthusiasm, kid, keep it up! ✊🏻

[@joleaneshmoleane8358]

No. We trust big pharma now, remember? Didn’t you get that memo during Covid? Us progressives and democrats have decided we trust big pharma again. Get your booster dude.

[@weisemari]

I grew up under the shadow of the Bayer logo. Now the plant is gone, the corporation is globalized. - I feel it. - The money is gone, too!

[@bebobism]

Don't forget Dupont !

[@annspires8380]

An Industry that deliberately financially cripples and kills off its customer base. Financial geniuses!!

[@lunatik9696]

Leaving climate change aside, the pollution generated alone is worth cutting back.

[@carlosdesousa6712]

're those flames, nature has annual burn-outs as a way to rejuvenate the ecosystem, it's seasonal and we experience it taking place in Africa every single year. If you want to go against nature then expect nature to win. Climate Change is a CONSTANT that has formed the earth and our solar system for 4.5 billion years and will continue to do so for another 4.5 billion years. The fact that people (SCIENTISTS 🤣🤣😭😭🤣🤣😂😂) think they can control *MOTHER NATURE* is preposterous.

[@bernardfurst9133]

Free market capitalism forces constant strides of efficiency through the entire economy. But capitalism is ruthless in that efficiency. Creating laws that limit this efficiency, that create boundaries for companies to follow is necessary according to what we as a country agree is important. So our leaders in govt should be creating these laws that limit pollution of our air, water, earth for all of our sakes. But they continue to serve mostly themselves, and then we keep re electing these people. I think they all realize that if they keep our minds occupied with unimportant things like trans bathroom rights or trans in sports, or even the big one -abortion, the people stop paying as much attention to growing debts, printing money, raiding SS fund, unnecessary wars AND funding any unnecessary wars, pollution of our properties, our water systems, our air, etc.

[@carlosdesousa6712]

Biggest load of 🐮💩

[@carlosdesousa6712]

@@bernardfurst9133 pollution is the drivel spewed by half-bakes and commies

[@jerryburns8971]

Wonder how many pediatric allergists would agree?🤔 Do they have conventions,. symposiums?🧐😉

[@randomstuff-qu7sh]

I have to wonder, even if California wins, will the actual people who made these destructive decisions be held accountable, or will the corporations just have a little less profit, and maybe those poor executives will get smaller bonuses?

[@LarsaXL]

Probably just looking at a corporate rebranding.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

Most of the folks that did this are dead or at least retired.

[@CyphDragon]

Those "poor executives" are sailing into their twilight years on golden parachutes so large that their children (and likely their children's children) will never want for anything. Of course the people that make these decisions will not be held accountable, because the entire corporate structure exists to shield them from any kind of liability.

[@LarsaXL]

Sadly true. @@CyphDragon

[@melsafken764]

​@@SmallSpoonBrigade Or WILL retire, before prosecution. Corporations need to be taken apart. It USED to be against the law to become a monopoly. Now we have no idea "who" owns everything.

[@eddiepalmer5740]

We have to cut emissions. Get cars off the roads. An electric train system would be a major help.

[@thoughtprism2963]

Everybody needs to see this video. These executives have arguably caused more damage to humanity's future prospects on this earth than any other group.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

Possibly, but the people who most need to see this won't actually watch it and if they do, they'll just go back to not caring. The problem would have been solved decades ago if the profit motive for destroying the environment had been addressed. If they were required to clean up after themselves the way that many others are, it would have changed while the necessary measures weren't particularly onerous.

[@Backinblackbunny009]

My parents agree with all of this but they don't care bc they believe God's gonna come down and fix everything for us. That's the problem with christianity and any religion that has the destruction of earth as its end goal. It's a death cult and its gonna push humanity into extinction. It's also why capitalism and Christianity as so closely entwined. Capitalism has been able to graft itself onto Christianity and use it as a puppet for it's own purpose

[@guruware8612]

Ya, because watching videos solves anything. We know this since decades, what should a yt-video change? People still buy big cars to compensate. But the others are the problem.

[@gaylandbarney2231]

@@guruware8612 not to mention the "climate change" industry , which makes huge profits from the gullible who need to blame someone for their imagined harm global warming is a myth that i believed until i did a little looking into the actual science , but reading the comments here , i see only true believers , not thinkers... ah well Y.T.

[@DonJorgeRM]

Simply put, the profit motive incentivizes greed and criminal behavior. Rule by mobsters.

[@jjoohhhnn]

Some of them are literal mobsters.

[@TimeSurfer206]

@@jjoohhhnn And some are Mango Mobster wanna-be's.

[@dominicfucinari1942]

It's exactly why I condemned the US under Charles Koch and Lewis Powell as a racketeerocracy! Criminal enterprise has more power over policy than the people!

[@AntonyBay]

Agreed. Greed has always been the root of all evil!( and tRump of course)!

[@sjsomething4936]

The fact that oil companies do not have to come to the table and commit to binding emissions reductions the same as the various world governments is problematic. As trans national organizations, they can simply change where the majority of their emissions are produced to a non-signatory nation and reduce emissions in their operations in signatory countries. It then becomes a shell game where the oil companies pressure smaller governments to refuse to sign and increase operations in those locations.

[@balozhende5727]

Never trust corporations, period!

[@dpb98812]

Weren't we the ones who accepted corporations into our country when no other country would accept them? At least that is what I was told.

[@TimothyWhiteheadzm]

Did he say 'billions of dollars'? Crypto exchanges and banks pay billions of dollars in fines. The oil industry should be trillions of dollars.

[@alaxt.6215]

Blackrock - not an oil company manages 10 TRILLION. So yes, the oil tycoons need to be billed in a way that’ll actually affect them.

[@Jesse-ri5ud]

exactly. in fact, all of these companies need to be charged for every single cent of damage, for every single death, every single home, farm, business, community, etc that have been destroyed by the direct actions of these evil people. even the ones who are "out" of the industry now must be held accountable for everything they've done

[@lauraw.7008]

@@alaxt.6215 and not completely strip retirement funds in IRAs

[@servehim1746]

What about Big Pharma? They should have to pay huge for the big scam we just had.

[@stzi7691]

Summing up the damages might, in an extremely rough estimation, yield to 60 Trillion. Apple's worth is 3.1T and they managed to get their products nearly to every person on the planet. Given the average cost of these (a laptop and a mobile), a damage to a person on average is about 10 times of that, the US is crazy about their housing prices, thus 10 times of the worth (31T), doubling it summing up the history where all this went on, so it is 62T. Sounds like a start.

[@CRrrr-gq1so]

We need to tighten the regulations on corporations. They have to recognize that they have to operate in the public’s interest, not purely for profit.

[@JoseLopez-tk4tq]

That will be difficult if there are shareholders expecting a return on their investment.

[@will7its]

Do you have a 401k or other retirement????

[@montezuma6962]

If they operated in your interests, they wouldn't operate.

[@jeffbrassard1268]

Oh yes, more regulations will correct the situation. Why are the wildfires confined to California? Why if rising sea levels post an existential treat are not ocean front properties in Malibu, Miami, Martha’s Vineyard and other locations around world not plummeting? How do you arrive at an “average global temperature? How many data points does that take? At what elevation are the data collected? What about the effect of clouds on the data collection process? Trust the science - where have we heard this before? Oh yes, from our government mouthpiece who said that virus did not come out of a lab in Wuhan. Climate change exists and has existed long before the rise of industrialization and will continue long after we are gone. The green energy movement is about money, power and control. Follow the money and continued reduction in personal liberty.

[@jameslee-dp6cb]

I think that's about like the city wanting to put an ally way in your yard. Why would you do that if you wouldn't want it done to you?

[@evanschneider9587]

Saying warming of a few degrees caused those fires is dumb. We (Californians) miss managed tf out of our forest. We should’ve had small burns to control the fuel.

[@zacharynolan9553]

A large issue with political issues is that people argue WHICH answer is “TRUTH” when in reality, complex systems like global climate, corporate lobbying, underfunded government agencies (forest services), etc. are ALL reasonable answers. But what do you propose we DO about it?

[@homeistheearth]

Thank you.. this video is just so much shit in one video. The biggest deception in history is that people think co2 is a pollution we need to remove. People do not think! The green ideology have forced energy prices up, taxes up, life expendency and deceases will start to go up as people will not be able to afford to eat properly. And we could keep going. Even the green ideology cant work without fossil fuels from cement to epoxy to steel. If these nut jobs get away with this, you will see the greatest genocide in history. !!

[@highspiritsfarm781]

You clearly do not understand the science. Wyoming is presently on fire. We had incredible wildfires in places never seen before in this intensity in Canada and around the world. Everything the scientists predicted is coming true. 😡 sadly the propaganda and lies of the oil and gas industry are working really well.

[@greatedges]

A lot of the CA fires are not in forests.

[@ErgoCogita]

Good thing nobody in this video nor any climate scientists are claiming that they “caused” them. Instead, it is fact that warming of a few degrees plays a huge role in shifting of weather patterns which exacerbates problems in drought prone areas. How could it NOT? Seriously, that’s not a rhetorical question. In closing, you seem to be suggesting that we shouldn’t worry about or address co2 forcing and instead just increase the usage of bandaids and continue “business as usual”. Hell, you and I will be dead before it gets really bad anyway, amirite?

[@Heavilymoderated]

Most companies biggest asset is the gullibility of the public.

[@carlosdesousa6712]

're those flames, nature has annual burn-outs as a way to rejuvenate the ecosystem, it's seasonal and we experience it taking place in Africa every single year. If you want to go against nature then expect nature to win. Climate Change is a CONSTANT that has formed the earth and our solar system for 4.5 billion years and will continue to do so for another 4.5 billion years. The fact that people (SCIENTISTS 🤣🤣😭😭🤣🤣😂😂) think they can control *MOTHER NATURE* is preposterous.

[@fiendz9116]

Oooof that's a painful reality. So glad to see we are waking up!!!

[@Heavilymoderated]

@@fiendz9116 I hope so.

[@fiendz9116]

@@Heavilymoderated Hey just keep fighting for it. I can't do a whole lot but put out microfires on youtube. I spend HOURS everyday doing it, but that is my contribution to our party. Along with the money I've donated having never donated to a political party before. The stakes are real! Don't give in, and don't give up!

[@UziMusic]

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” ― George Carlin

[@darkranger116]

"in the late 80s early 90s something changes.." Ronald. Reagan.

[@littleredpony6868]

What he failed to mention is that he had the pyramid upside down just so he could call it trickle down economics instead of trickle up economics

[@gusgreen3104]

He couldn't recall and Alzheimer disease made sure of that. Kind of a reap what you sow IMHO. m

[@jonnyblaze2692]

Yeah I love how everybody likes to pretend that deregulation and privatization didn't happen in the 80s. I remember community hospitals where anybody in the town could go and get healthcare.

[@bernl178]

Yes, Ronald Reagan was part of the problem absolutely 100% but then again most politicians are dragged in, lobbying is that effective

[@AllDogsAreGoodDogs]

He was Prez from 81-89. Blame the right guy.

[@ScatRiverbend]

The Earth 🌎 is a living being that goes through cycles... It's normal.....

[@greatedges]

Tell that to your kids when it’s too hot to live.

[@spindlecitysister]

The number 1 culprit is the system. Sure, I commend these efforts to get the corporations to pay and hopefully be dismantled but capitalism - this system of unlimited growth on a limited planet - is ultimately what needs to be replaced.

[@EVILJOHNSAVAGE]

Sorry. You have Drank the Kool aid. The entire Main Stream Narrative is Based Upon Nothing but Lies. OIL IS NOT A FOSSIL FUEL. Climate Change is a HOAX. California Wildfires were Intentionally Caused and the only Man Made Climate Change is Caused by Geo-Engineering Weather Modification. Big Oil is Owned by the very same Criminal Mega Corporations that are Pushing the Climate Hoax UN Agenda 2030. BlackRock, Vanguard and the Rothschild Banksters are calling the shots on every front. They are more than willing to sacrifice Big Oil. They are Intentionally Destroying it to prepare for the Great Reset. It is the Destruction of Western Civilization Itself that they are attempting to achieve. And Everything they are saying is BASED UPON LIES...

[@loopylynda1974]

You are absolutely correct but the problem is no one wants to change their lifestyle or be inconvenienced. So if existing modern countries don't want to be inconvenienced and third world countries that are modernizing say you can't tell me I can't have what you have which I get but where does that leave us...on a collision course with the anthropecene

[@Backinblackbunny009]

​@@loopylynda1974WHAT?! This has nothing to do with what the PEOPLE want! Social psychology has shown how to get people to change and it's making EVERYONE CARRY THEIR FAIR SHARE of the burden! The problem is that when California is in a extreme drought only the areas where poor and middle class folks are left to turn ugly and brown but the fancy golf courses stay open and all the lawns in Bel air and Beverly hills stay lush and green and Nestle isn't forced to stop draining municipal lakes into water bottles. As long as it's only the people who must sell their labor to live are forced to carry the burden the public will reject it!

[@JanelleGodwin-zl8li]

Yup that has been America's most brainless& dumbest fiscal model& theory ever since Nixon 🥴🤪🤡🤥 Yet Americans repeatedly approve of it+ vote for it by ever voting for, electing, donating to, helping to get elected/ reelected, revoting for , supporting/ reelecting any federalists, the right, the gop, republicans, libertarians, independents who lean conservative, evangelicals and or conservatives 🥴🤪🤡🤥🤯

[@stacyfiske7903]

@@loopylynda1974I’m pretty sure if the companies And corporations were bound with regulations to make them do the right thing, and DC weren’t crawling with lobbyists, the masses would love to work together to make this world’s future better instead of standing by while the elites flush it down the toilet. Ye have little faith!

[@angelmujahid2233]

“All of us would like to believe that corporations do the right thing.” Said no one ever. We have always thought the opposite.

[@jjoohhhnn]

Conservatives think the government corrupts corporations, lol.

[@RachelAmmons]

The right wants to deregulate them all and a lot of right-wingers think privatizing everything down to the roads is a great idea. So. 🤷🏻‍♀️ some people think private corporations are just awesome.

[@uncrunch398]

@@RachelAmmons Without pointless regulations, start ups could topple multiple trillionaire giants who don't serve the public better. The problem is regulations that cripple small business but are less painful than a mosquito bite to giants and have no real purpose but to do the former.

[@davidhollfelder9940]

It’s not just CO2. I grew up in south Buffalo in the 60s. The petrochemical and other chemical plants were by far the worst air and water polluters.

[@andrewgoodbody2121]

They have literally killed the world

[@Ryguy0707]

The problem is even if they lose, they will just pass the buck down to the pumps, and we pay the price

[@QT5656]

Adequate government legislation can prevent that problem. Regardless, if the price of gas goes up further the market will adjust such that electric cars will replace gas cars do sooner.

[@QT5656]

@@Lookinghorse-v2j I agree they aren't the answer. Greater public transport and electric bikes in cities have a huge role to play. However, recycling of electric cars including the batteries is actually improving all the time. I'm pretty confident the last few Mews owners hated cars and the last few big non scented candle businesses hated lightbulbs. Simon Clark has covered many of these topics and new scientific papers are coming out all the time.

[@QT5656]

@@Lookinghorse-v2j The oligarchs will insist that goes against the "free" market. Just look at the variation in charging cable connectors or phone batteries. It's ridiculous. The EU tried to standardise it without much success. As climate change gets worse the need for a war economy will become more obvious. That make it much easier to standardise and reduce waste. It wouldn't be necessary if the transition had began in the 1980s when there was already enough evidence to act.

[@MrFraiche]

Never underestimate the power of propaganda.

[@pr3modeling239]

The internal combustion engine is man's greatest invention. Public transit sucks. Hot Rod is life. Ban electric vehicles. Drill baby, drill!

[@grmpEqweer]

We need to try and get their money to help retool our infrastructure. We can't get off oil, or mostly off, by individual effort alone. Our current U.S. infrastructure forces petroleum use.

[@donedeal8385]

Ya we know, they know, everyone knows that everyone knew. The issue is that they own everything. Government, laws, property. We're stuck on a poisoned planet cheering a few tech bros as they build bunkers and getaway ships lol. The fight was lost awhile ago.

[@Donkor640]

Don't sound so defeated. While it is possible to fail when striving to make a positive change, it is certain that you will not make a positive change if you never attempt. Collectively humans possess both immense intelligence and the capacity to be complete idiots. Understanding this fact means we should not give up when realizing we have chosen the wrong path, as we are equally capable of rectifying the problems we have created for ourselves. 🙏🏾

[@joshanton2259]

The fossil fuel industry has been gatekeeping all substantial alternative energy developments this entire time.

[@kelvinnkat]

Hey, Minnesota is doing a similar lawsuit against the petro companies, don't forget about us!

[@youtubesucks1499]

So what happens when gas hits $9.00 a gallon to pay for this ridiculous lawsuit? Or better yet, they shut down oil production and sell to the Chinese? So what's the plan genius? When gas prices go up so does the cost of everything else.

[@Oh_ELCapitan]

Corruptions paying for the consequences of their actions should always be the cost of doing business.

[@youtubesucks1499]

So what happens when ExxonMobil shuts down? What's the plan?

[@Stoicisbetter]

"When all the trees have been cut down, when all the animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all the air is unsafe to breathe, only then will you discover you cannot eat money." Cree prophecy

[@greevar]

Exxon has known since 1955 about this. They ignored it and tried to keep it under wraps.

[@mrrolandlawrence]

indeed there are many YT videos from the 1950s that talk about global warming.

[@tonytooshort]

"We're on it" - American Petroleum Institute Sure, you and all 0.22 percent of your budget 🥴

[@eddiepalmer5740]

We are killing ourselves. 😮

[@billmitchell2080]

One thing that is rarely discussed about resource extraction, is why do we let these corporations have these resources for almost nothing.

[@redisetgo.]

Yes, I have the same question. When we allow corporations to exploit our national resources, each taxpayer should get a piece of the pie. When they found oil in Saudi, all Saudis got rich too.

[@bevlowery9545]

United Corporations of America (UCA) made corporations into "people" via SCOTUS case "Citizens United".

[@MF-qf7bs]

Did you know that China has bought large swaths of protect land in the US because of the water and minerals contained within?

[@mikeoglen6848]

@@MF-qf7bs No, I did not know that...

[@stevenkirk4610]

This is a very well-considered and edited production on what is probably the most important issue of our (and the planet's) time. Thank you for the effort, and for the clarity you provide for the biggest threat to our world and for the resolution you outline to this seemingly never-ending oil industry travesty.

[@mathewp3416]

Very insightful, even for a non-American like mysef.

[@mauricioquintero2420]

The hubris of thinking they can "pay" for the damage they've done is astounding...

[@mustlebart]

no mention of how its just a feature of capitalism that makes them behave this way

[@J4Zonian]

@mus A feedback loop ultimately caused by a psychological condition best called Wetiko disease. "Seeing Wetiko: on Capitalism, Mind Viruses, and Antidotes for a World in Transition” Alnoor Ladha, Martin Kirk. And see process therapist Paul Levy’s brilliant but somewhat confused & repetitive writings on it.

[@matthewronsson]

Right, the socialist block of the Soviet Unions was renowned for their pristine environments

[@mgreenesco9955]

No thats greed, capitalism is just getting paid a fair price for your work.

[@pitpalac]

@@mgreenesco9955 "capitalism is just getting a fair pay for your work", when was that ever happened, in the 18th or 19th centuries when industrial revolution started?! Or maybe later?! Capitalism was invented by mobsters, to rob the workers and gain control over the the governments. Crony capitalism gave birth to your humanistic romanticized version of capitalism. Tycoons or mobsters are the rulers of the capitalist governments and their policies since the beginning of industrial revolution. Workers have paid with their blood, literally, to gain basic rights and privileges, or to have private properties, or to own houses or lands acquired with their salaries or their income. Capitalism is a philosophy of a gangster life.

[@NapoleonGelignite]

Climate change is a consequence of burning fossil fuels, not a lack of equity in wealth distribution.

[@davidstorrs]

It baffles me. The Exxon executives have children, grandchildren, etc -- what do they think will happen to them? Any one of the oil companies could have broken ranks and transformed itself into a green energy company, leaving the rest to twist I'm the inevitable legal and financial penalties while they dominate the new field. What happened?

[@anneloving8405]

Huge amounts of money changes people, and not for the better.

[@Morotr75]

Remember, they had plenty of help from their shareholders in the media and in government, notably Fox News and the GOP.

[@michaelthorsen6208]

That's funny. Show me what Obama, Biden, and Harris did to end this regime of terror and tragedy. Go on, tag me in your response. I'll wait.

[@dvdv8197]

Example 1,000,000,001 of "Money corrupts" and "the more money you have, the more greedy you will be." 😢

[@hughjanus3378]

Massive Load of misinformation here.

[@greatedges]

Such as?

[@hughjanus3378]

All of the doomsday predictions offered by the people behind this misinformation HAVEN’T happened. Ask Al Gore….the climate specialist…oops…I mean the politician….go and do some basic research. Ask yourself why the carbon cycle is never mentioned. Discard the opinion of anyone who claims there is “consensus” …or that the science is “settled”……

[@loopylynda1974]

So we go after the existing oil companies & executives but what about the MFs who made their money & split & now have no accountability and no way to claw that money back to put it to fixing this dire situation.

[@guruware8612]

They pay, and continue what they do, possibly rise prices to compensate. Money fixes nothing, change of mindset has more chance. Most important, change of customers mindset. Not everybody needs a bigger car than the neighbor. Stop judging the worth of a human by their bank-account, and they have no more fun with their colorful papers. And stop voting criminals into office.

[@wintermath3173]

In my opinion, all oil companies should be nationalized and all 100% of their profits invested into clean energy, electrification, and R&D.

[@jjoohhhnn]

Energy entirely needs to be government owned. F the Edison Electric's of the world. We should also elect the board of directors of the companies once they're nationalized, so they're accountable to the people AND we're not voting on people who have to understand how the corporation functions, board members steer the ship towards outcomes. We have 13 supreme court districts, let's just use those as board seat districts.

[@BetaKeja]

If nationalized it's also very important that these companies are controlled democratically. It's no good if control can just be seized again by the next would be dictator.

[@jjoohhhnn]

@@BetaKeja We should elect the board of directors of nationalized corporations with nation-wide service, via federal court districts. 13 federal court districts, means 13 board members. I think a 4-8 year terms seems best, cause infrastructure takes time to be built and be properly normalized into the system. I don't like the idea of term limits personally, I think the bar should be raised each election, though. Meaning you need 60% to win your 3rd term, and it increases by x% (my guess would be about 5% increase, but it's just a conversation starter, really) until you reach the percentage cap we decide upon, I think somewhere between 75% and 90% for a 10x incumbent to win sounds reasonable. Not technically impossible to win, but unlikely, to encourage new thinking in our systemic management. I have lots of ideas on election and general systemic reform. Why should we allow at&t and other ISP's to be publicly traded so hostile foreign powers can buy influence? It's a national security issue. It's also a personal freedoms issue. Your ISP has a legal duty to make money when they're publicly traded, they have a legal obligation to the constitution and therefor free speech if they are federally owned. And, it'd be good for the economy. And for the individual, in a humanitarian way, but most conservatives don't care about the humanitarian argument, so I don't use it very often.

[@kyle9401]

​@@BetaKejait would have to be heavily protected and understood why it needs to be done that way, yeah. In this current political climate I don't see that happening.

[@aliceputt3133]

We did it before like the Tennessee Valley Authority was a FDR Government and worked great. But Republicans screamed socialism and want to privatize every thing critical to the public like schools, public utilities, the Post Office, libraries…

[@barbaraellis3069]

1992 I was in grad school working in building technology, designing energy efficient wall systems. One of the conversations I had with guys from the energy commission was about fema funding, I had suggested the oil companies underwrite FEMA relief, I’d like that suggestion turn into a demand in light of what has been happening

[@lmak-rf9fn]

And SCOTUS is about to make it worse with roll backs on the EPA!

[@rjl5759]

You know not of what you speak.

[@greatedges]

@@rjl5759 huh?

[@carljam9067]

One volcano erupts & nothing is said! A COW FARTS & humans freek out! Wow!

[@A.Rose.G]

I remember as a kid when regulations were being removed and fought against by politicians and thinking people won't do the right thing, are you crazy??

[@timetowakeup6302]

Everything Is A Rich Man’s Trick

[@connor3288]

What about a poor magician?

[@jasonjones2810]

Instead of a rabbit, they pulled poop out of their hat and died.

[@yishnir]

IDEA FOR STORY: The hundreds of 'hidden remains' found recently in Southeastern city currently dealing with a drinking water crises. Tie in to the 'hidden remains' found in multiple pieces in another town in the same state.

[@IusedtohaveausernameIliked]

It turns out that maximising profit is not such a good idea after all. Who knew?

[@JustAverageJeff]

So much misery caused in the name of profit, thank you capitalism. What I don't get is why capitalism is still praised as the end all be all of economics, when it's going to cause us to destroy ourselves before we can really learn who and what we are and why we are here.

[@CyphDragon]

It's very simple - the people that capitalism is good for - the owner class - own and control all the media in our country, and in large swaths of the world. Through that, the convince the poorly educated to vote against their own best interests, and to constantly attack the education system so their lies are covered up by American mythology.

[@JanelleGodwin-zl8li]

Because either people utterly just refuse to learn or maybe people are just that brainless/ dumb 🥴🤪🤡🤥🤔

[@kaioneal6160]

Corporations have more rights than citizens do

[@Stoicisbetter]

That's because they have all the money and really expensive teams of lawyers.

[@Ansonidak]

The ocean could be actually boiling and some people will insist it's a natural climate variation.

[@swagmundfreud666]

It should be illegal to defraud the American people like this. And not a "slap a fine" type deal. Send them to prison.

[@who2u333]

Legally, corporations are 'people' and could be held accountable, but it is real people that made these decisions and took home the profits.

[@carlosdesousa6712]

're those flames, nature has annual burn-outs as a way to rejuvenate the ecosystem, it's seasonal and we experience it taking place in Africa every single year. If you want to go against nature then expect nature to win. Climate Change is a CONSTANT that has formed the earth and our solar system for 4.5 billion years and will continue to do so for another 4.5 billion years. The fact that people (SCIENTISTS 🤣🤣😭😭🤣🤣😂😂) think they can control *MOTHER NATURE* is preposterous.

[@jerryburns8971]

Yep,.just ask Romney!🧐😮😉

[@waltbroedner4754]

"Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government."

[@AndTecks]

I was born and grew up in paradise. many family members lost their houses. Unfortunately as a species I think we have just gotten worse at pollution every year. Now everyone treats politicians like it's their football team and there is no sign of anything getting better

[@Hclann1]

And how many more people are living there now and destroying what was once paradise, but let's blame global warming or oil and gas. People and infrastructure are what has caused the destruction.

[@AndTecks]

@@Hclann1 are you the final stupid boss or is there someone above you?

[@electricAB]

It would have great if you had been able to mention how much these companies have received in subsidies, how much they have donated to the campaign funds of various candidates at Sate and National levels.

[@JoseLopez-tk4tq]

Government does not solve problems --- it subsidizes them. - Ronald Reagan December 11, 1972

[@Felinius]

I hate that being in favor of actions like this puts me at odds with my family.

[@julieweiner1623]

Oil is what wars are fought for

[@littleredpony6868]

The oil must flow

[@emilyking9558]

Do one on animal agriculture. They are responsible for deforestation, water contamination, antibiotic resistance, zoonotic diseases and ghg emissions. Changing what we eat is just as important as changing our energy sources

[@redred222]

you will not get people to stop eating animals just like oil is not going away you tree lovers are all the same just deal with the changing environment dont live in a desert or by the ocean simple solution just deal with it karin

[@pedrova8058]

Right now there are protests in Germany, because the government intends to eliminate oil subsidies for agriculture (while private German companies become millionaires with war contracts)

[@GeorgeHagstrom]

Hey, I gotta comment. I studied CC in 1971 in my Physics classes and my Natural Resources classes For 55 years now I've heard all the excuses that prevent action. I think because oil products are empowering. Everything we see is made using oil. Everything we do is oil related. I would here the procrastinators would say, " I'll be dead by then". The solution lies in organizing a life style that reduces human motion and remains fun and loving.

[@who2u333]

And none of the executives in charge of those companies in the 70's and 80's will have any accountability. They and their families won.

[@JoseLopez-tk4tq]

I recall no accountability for the greed-fueled subprime loans and reckless lending by bankers that led to the 2008 financial crisis. Who went to prison?

[@Jessica_AIba]

My greatest concern is how to recover from all these economic and global troubles and stay afloat especially with the political power tussle going on in US. The government has really called things more difficult for its citizens, and we can't sit back and bear all the consequences of the bad governance

[@Textgabby]

The wisest thought that is in everyone's minds today is to invest in different income flows that do not depend on the government, especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a good time to invest in gold, silver and digital currencies (BTC, ETH...stock,silver and gold)

[@DeanDavies-hggh]

Even with the bad economic, My life has totally changed since started with $3,000 and now I make $68,700 every 14days for the past 3 months, I can afford any car or house of my choice right now and I don't need to worry about my retirement. ...God bless

[@denelson83]

​@@TextgabbyOh, so you want this world to have _more_ financial predators? Take your far-right BS elsewhere.

[@ScottAllen12]

So much pains in my heart due to so many debts. How can I go about it ! I would really appreciate if you show me how to go about it. Please what crypto should I buy, how can I do it?

[@ScottAllen12]

I'm from Florida, how can I get in touch with mrs Eleanor nelson?

[@alyssastewart738]

I hope hell is real, if only for those who knew they’d be negatively affecting 7billion+ people, had the proof right in front of them, and still continued to destroy our absolutely beautiful earth.

[@symmetrylove]

Corporations should be the servants of the people. Instead, corporations are becoming the people's masters.

[@JohnT.4321]

That has always been that way. Corporations, and the wealthy elites, control government as well.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Always have been

[@ScubieDoo2727]

They are people lol, or so they are according to the law

[@montezuma6962]

They are servants of the people. If you don't like what they're selling, take your business down the street.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

@@montezuma6962 Can't. Corporate landthief bought the whole street.

[@ryanreedgibson]

After becoming an opiate addict due partially to corporate crime, I exercise each morning with my GSD. It has kept me clean now for over five years. On our morning run all it takes is one diesel truck or car for me to feel like my lungs are collapsing. By going outside and exercising it's like I have become a smoker.

[@paulfields6253]

It's DISINFORMATION, it was intentional. It's not misinformation, that's unintentional. Pce

[@fastmathreach7368]

this is honestly infuriating, the people in power have knowns this for decades and have sat idly taking bribes.

[@youtubesucks1499]

Ok, let's say NY and California win billions. So what are the unintended consequences,?? The cost is passed on to the consumer and gas is $8.99 a gallon,? Well, what's the cost to transport goods and how will that impact food prices? You think food is expensive now,??? 🤣😂😂👍👍👍👍

[@fastmathreach7368]

humanity needs to downsize, simple, we cannot justify destroying the planet just for our own comfort, it's home to billions of other organisms and we definitely are not the most important by any means.@@youtubesucks1499

[@fastmathreach7368]

also food price to consumer isnt an issue if u take away the profit incentive @@youtubesucks1499

[@mars.4993]

And yet everyone in this video and everyone watching this video depends on the products that these companies provide for us.

[@MrMyers-oi7op]

Correct, and would you beleive this narrative was actually started by Big Oil......from the Rockefeller camp.....to hurt the coal industry......then they realized they could be first to capatalize on the "Green" energy movement, and they did.....then the carbon credit racket.......the crime here is that it is big energy itselft pushing the CO2/warming narrative, and the people making this video don't even realize that they have become a part of it!

[@20blackbirdsinpi]

Riiiigt. Like we have a choice.

[@tordarbast]

Sure! All climate change activists should stop using all these products, after that they can have an opinion😂

[@greatedges]

That’s the point. The whole economic system is rigged for corporate profit. Oil colludes with car makers is just one example. We the people have no way to get from here to there without using their products. We are stuck.

[@ohzone6464]

HE LIVED.!!!

[@jonnygulmatico9472]

Directly from Big Tobacco's playbook

[@kylezo]

also from their staff, since half the executives are literally the same people to a person.

[@bizygirl1]

They’re the same people.

[@davidrhorne1930]

If big oil companies knew, then scientists and every politician knew also

[@blktarockstar818]

Yes they've been telling us for decades but Republicans have fought any climate action tooth and nail

[@F.o.s.t.e.r.]

Now do one on what Exxon has done to the Amazon and that guy they imprisoned for pointing it out. 'Boy Boy' actually just did a video on him too.

[@J4Zonian]

@F Steven Donziger. Democracy Now did a segment or 2 on the horrific things Texaco/Chevron did to Ecuador, its indigenous people, Donziger, & what was left of US democracy & its injustice system.

[@JohnT.4321]

When worker are class conscious enough to know that an organization of labor is needed in order to throw the capitalists out of the oil, auto, manufacturing and sector and claim it for themselves. On the other hand, a political party that backs the labor organization would be doing a system change in which a new government would be created.

[@jjoohhhnn]

Claiming it for the workers basically means the government buys out the shareholders and we elect the board of directors the way we elect senators, sort of. But it's better than a senator, cause we know what we vote on when we're electing the head of the US auto manufacturing industry, as opposed to senators who vote on EVERYTHING from social, to economic, to regulatory to foreign policy and it's luck of the draw who ends up on what committee. The system as it is is SO opaque it breeds corruption. We're not waging a war, and the only organization with the ability to manage and enforce this transfer is the federal government itself. Buy them out then sue them for crimes against humanity and c suite for treason. Clean it up correctly in a way that helps workers and instills faith in the justice system *AVOIDING a violent transfer of power while still offering restorative justice* ; we don't want things plunged into chaos by trying to create a new center of physical power. It starts with getting money out of elections, and we keep pushing for election reform until they're clean elections with incomes that pay enough they're incentivized to not risk employment (it's ridiculous to me that the most powerful politicians make pennies compared to CEO's based on their LEGAL income). Then we can start voting to delegate their powers away, once the elections are clean. We should probably push the big-tech anti-trust first, so we have better access to information and organization as a part of our preparation for governmental reform. But yeah, I really like the idea of getting rid of or seriously limiting congress and the senate's power, and having state ownership of anything considered a utility or infrastructure, and electing their board based on federal court districts (for national utilities like electric, telecom, interstate transit infrastructure, and big tech). And then IDK how I'd make the smaller districts for water, IDK if I'd change it, aren't water commissioners elected usually? State governments should reform similarly, the state does more than settle land disputes, lol. You don't grow your own medicine like they did back in the 1800's. Division of labor and all that.

[@JohnT.4321]

@@jjoohhhnn I just cannot agree. Socialism is when the workers collectively own the means of production and distribution and nothing short of that. The socialist government does not buy out the shareholders. It takes capitalist private property and nationalizes it. I don't subscribe to revisionism of reforms towards socialism. Power to the workers when they organize politically and economically. That is the actual two edge sword to defeat capitalism.

[@jjoohhhnn]

@@JohnT.4321 "Socialism is when the workers collectively own the means of production" What about my end goal was not collective ownership? lmao. "The socialist government does not buy out the shareholders." Yes, they can. That is the most peaceful way to seize the means of production. How do you intend to take it from them, otherwise? With force? You're going to violently overthrow the US government? Good luck with that one, bruv. "It takes capitalist private property and nationalizes it." What about my plan didn't do this? Is it missing some Maoism or Leninism, to kill off the doctors? What plan do you even have which actively denies Marx's theory on the division of labor? Doctors are better at being doctors, they don't need to farm. "Power to the workers when they organize politically and economically." How do you plan to organize? Through what group do you intend to congregate under and to what SPECIFIC POLICY GOALS do you have? How do you expect to get them into law, be it this government or the new one once you overthrow the US military and intelligence apparatuses? How do you intend to organize in a way that doesn't allow the movement to be fractured and destroyed like the hippies, civil rights activists, punks, gangs, etc.? Assuming you can answer that, what's your battle plan to take the nation? What materials do you need, how long will it take, what are some primary objectives? Lmao, or is this 'glorious revolution' too real for you now? "That is the actual two edge sword to defeat capitalism." Ugh, I don't even think you have any concepts on how a post scarcity society would ACTUALLY function, let alone a totally command economy. Complete command economics is terrible. It has never worked and I really can't imagine it working, especially not jumping from Roman/English/American legal structure, skipping post scarcity, and going STRAIGHT to total command. No one knows how to do that equitably, and in the past it has lead to some of the worst authoritarianism in recent history. Try outlining some policy solutions instead of saying "that's not socialist enough", if you can. But I know a lot of trendy leftists think economics and logistics management is bourgeoise decadence.

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@@jjoohhhnn You should know that the capitalist class will never willfully give up their power peacefully. That is a Lenin quote. However, you think the peaceful settlement of disputes under the current system as a possibility. I understand this clearly. It may have been very possible in the early 20th century to settle the social question (the transfer of power to the working class) peacefully. The current government is corrupt beyond redemption and to settle the social question will not happen through the ballot and Third Parties are blocked through legal action of many hoops to jump through or blatantly kicked off the ballot. The means towards worker ownership is very simple but non existent at this time though there is a remnant of a concept that the American socialist Daniel De Leon came up with to what would work which people need to be educated on. It does not have to violent as you imagine me thinking it as such. The concept of Socialist Industrial Unionism (SIU) has to be taught to the working class as the organization and foundation of workers collective ownership. The education could unite every trade and social service unions into a SIU which give workers the collective ability to take over every industry and service. This is neither Soviet or Maoist as you feel the need to infer. This is about the working class and the political aspect is just a means to the end. The SIU is separate from the political government though the political government has to protect the new society from reactionaries who would, through various and violent means, want a return to capitalism. On the other hand, the workers will need a political party that backs the SIU. the education of workers has to include socialist politics. When the SIU has the numbers nationally, then the peaceful settlement of disputes can be presented backed by the ballot. Historically speaking, slaveowners were never compensated when they lost their private property so why should exploitive shareholders? If and when there is a socialist government, the signal would be sent to the SIU to lock out the capitalists from every industry and the police and military would be politically held back. The reconstruction of society would begin to transform it into a cooperative commonwealth and central planning would be created by the SIU as an Industrial Congress of Labor. Politician cannot actually run the economic well being of a country and it would be better if the working class has that responsibility since they already do that function under capitalism.

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@@jjoohhhnn "Claiming it for the workers basically means the government buys out the shareholders" We have no need to do that. You know who we did that for essentially? Slave owners. We do not and should not reward these people in any way. "How do you intend to take it from them, otherwise? With force? You're going to violently overthrow the US government? Good luck with that one, bruv." So its either buy it all out and keep them insanely wealthy, or toppling the US government. Those are the only two options to you? The only ways we can do it? However, the US government does not to be eliminated. The US as a political project must come to an end. We have been doing genocide for centuries against so many cultures, there is no other way than complete elimination of our government. "we elect the board of directors the way we elect senators" We could try out worker councils instead. It can all be made way more democratic for everyone instead of keeping this shit "representative democracy" but slightly different. We could look at indiginous cultures and try to learn from them on governance. That would probably be a very good idea. "Clean it up correctly in a way that helps workers and instills faith in the justice system AVOIDING a violent transfer of power while still offering restorative justice " You can not clean up the capitalist system. You cent just vote socialists in and then that's it. That's not how systemic change works. No one should have faith in the justice system for there was never any reason to have faith in it in the first place. The justice system continues to be a part in the oppression of the natives. 1"ow do you plan to organize? Through what group do you intend to congregate under and to what SPECIFIC POLICY GOALS do you have?" Have you ever heard of unions? They have a very socialist history, and they used to have massive political power. And asking a single person what their goals are is pointless. This is a COLLECTIVE effort. We all work on the goals together. "How do you intend to organize in a way that doesn't allow the movement to be fractured and destroyed like the hippies, civil rights activists, punks, gangs, etc.? Assuming you can answer that, what's your battle plan to take the nation? What materials do you need, how long will it take, what are some primary objectives?" These are ridiculous questions to ask a singular person. Not any one person can ever answer these. It doesnt work that way. ITS A COLLECTIVE EFFORT. You seem to think you have some gotcha, but you dont. You're just being intellectually dishonest. "Lmao, or is this 'glorious revolution' too real for you now?" And this right here proves that. You are an intellectually dishonest person. Please do better and act more like an adult. "Ugh, I don't even think you have any concepts on how a post scarcity society would ACTUALLY function" We already live in a post scarcity society, and again, a singular person does not need to know how a post scarcity society works. Its a COLLECTIVE effort. We all figure it out together. "let alone a totally command economy. Complete command economics is terrible." No one brought up a command economy besides you. And yes, they have worked. Corporations use very similar models that the USSR did, they just now have the advantage of powerful computers to help, which is what the USSR needed. And yes, they are terrible, but no where as bad as free market economics. And again, you're the one who brought up command economies so you could argue against them, More intellectual dishonesty " No one knows how to do that equitably, and in the past it has lead to some of the worst authoritarianism in recent history." Yeah, thats why we all work COLLECTIVLEY to figure it out. And the worst authoritarianism came from capitalism. "Try outlining some policy solutions" Try acting like an adult first "But I know a lot of trendy leftists think economics and logistics management is bourgeoise decadence." You clearly know nothing about leftists. You sound like you have gobbled up a shit ton of capitalist propaganda and have yet to deprogram yourself.

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