Making a Quick Change Tool Post

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Morgan Demers

Morgan Demers

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@Biokemist-o3k
@Biokemist-o3k 8 ай бұрын
Not only is this functional but it is absolutely a piece of unique beauty. Anyone would be proud to have this in their study and not even in their shop.....I think the Milling machine was a game changer. It looks as if you havee ben able to make the castings look so great and accurate....
@pauldzim
@pauldzim 4 жыл бұрын
Wait - this guy made his own lathe?? Mad props to you sir.
@JimFleming1953
@JimFleming1953 11 жыл бұрын
Normally I just give videos like this a thumb's up, and move along... Morgan, you just did a great job, and I LIKE this video, and it's so SIMPLE!!! Thank you sir, I'm sharing this all over my 'Net accounts!
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Jim, I'm glad you liked the video. Definitely makes it worth the time getting comments like this! Cheers, Morgan
@Rudykanal
@Rudykanal 7 жыл бұрын
Now this was a nice tool post! I realy like this construction. Minimal overhang and practically no more parts than a fixed post. Easy to scale up and down to any lathe and any tools. I will make one..
@allsortsofinterests1
@allsortsofinterests1 11 жыл бұрын
You videos are great to watch for building the gingery lathe, I almost built one. My picture is of the ways being scraped in, but you definately made it further than me having a functioning machine. I broke down and bought a southbend on craigslist for 500, when I started with Dave that seemed like a fortune! I would love to see you build the shaper as they can't be found readily like a lathe.
@petertyrrell6690
@petertyrrell6690 4 жыл бұрын
I made a few of these for my 9x20 lathe, they are excellent.
@bendavanza
@bendavanza 11 жыл бұрын
Morgan: Great videos. I'm inspired by your DIY spirit and the stuff you have built. A couple things came to mind when watching this one: Use your mill when tapping to keep the tap in alignment, this makes it much easier. After drilling you can put the tap in the chuck and manually turn it, or use a tap guide in the chuck. Just to get the tap started straight. How about a slitting saw arbor for the Mill? It could replace a lot of hack sawing and make very nice cuts. You may want to look for a high sulfur cutting fluid for steel. Very nice work on the QCTP, it shows what your lathe and skills are capable of.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment bendavanza it's much appreciated, Good call on using the mill ( or the lathe ) to assist in tapping holes accurately and on center, I'll definitely give that a try next chance I have. Yes, a slitting saw arbor / saw for my Mill would be a great addition, and would do a better job than the hacksaw for sure, thanks for the recommendation. I recently looked at some and they are fairly reasonable in price, and I'll definitely be getting some saws & an arbor soon. Cheers, Morgan
@deanm6095
@deanm6095 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Nothing better than watching someone create their own tools. I see you heard this before but even an edited hacksaw segment is painful. You know they make power saws. But I'm sure you'll fab a very nice one. Post a video.
@stevecoffman1576
@stevecoffman1576 10 жыл бұрын
Very nice work Morgan. Really nice.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Also, nothing wrong with buying a lathe, especially a nice southbend. I'm glad I didn't buy a bigger lathe, as we recently moved and that would have been such a pain in the a** to relocate haha... Anyways, I think the most beneficial part of the series is learning how to cast your own parts - something I'll be doing for my own projects moving forward. The shaper looks like a really neat build, and you can find some videos on it. My wife bought me a mini mill, so I probably won't build it :(
@colinwarner7762
@colinwarner7762 7 жыл бұрын
Morgan, your good, just like our Morgan cars. keep it up mate, I really like your videos. Thanks for putting in the time and effort, people like me find them a great help. Some know alls are just mean minded. Keep it up mate. All the best to you and yours, Colin.UK.
@kenzpenz
@kenzpenz 10 жыл бұрын
Just awesome, I think you could build an engine with a screw driver, a pair of pliers and a hammer. Great video and the end result is obvious as to what you can accomplish. I recently acquired an old mini lathe and just bought a quick change tool holder for it. I think yours would work just a well. Keep on keeping on. Ken...Marina CA
@martingrahdu8987
@martingrahdu8987 9 жыл бұрын
That tool holder is awsome i spent 1500 on a lathe and mine has really bad run out like yours from the three jaw chuck i want to get some dogs and turn between centers and allso get a four jaw chuck
@AndrewTubbiolo
@AndrewTubbiolo 11 жыл бұрын
I'm so bummed Lindsay went away. I just found out last week when I was going to show a friend where to get those great old books.
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 10 ай бұрын
Just found your channel and subscribed. Very nice work
@agassizbeekeeper
@agassizbeekeeper 10 жыл бұрын
Well done! First time I've seen a Gingery lathe in operation.
@lazyh-online4839
@lazyh-online4839 8 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say its a gingery lathe, Morgan added a whole bunch of other cool stuff and modified the design to make it more rigid, far better than the original gingery design. Personally I'd call it a Demers lathe rather than gingery just because of how awesome it is, he's gone above and beyond making the lathe the best that he can and is humble enough to show us every step he's taken to get here.
@barrycass2284
@barrycass2284 4 жыл бұрын
Wow were have you been. On the funny flower site. Lol
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
... If everything is looking good with your spindle & chuck, you should then make sure all the gibs are adjusted properly, etc... Before I made the permanent spindle for my lathe I had about 0.005" of runout in the temporary spindle which was causing some issues when cutting toward at the headstock end of things - definitely noticeable wobble there, but splitting my spindle bearings for a better fit, and making the bigger permanent spindle definitely helped out a lot.
@johnnybarbar7435
@johnnybarbar7435 6 жыл бұрын
Now just make 3 or 4 more of the bit holders so it is actually a quick change. If you don't you will have to adjust the tool height with every bit changeout.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Hey Malcolm, thanks for the reply. Technically I didn't buy the mill, my wife surprised me with one as I kept ranting on about how it would speed up my lathe project :) haha. If she hadn't I probably would be thinking about building the gingery horizontal mill at this point - or devising a milling attachment for the lathe. That being said, the cost of the cheapest horizontal bandsaw is reasonable enough, so at some point I'll probably just buy one of those when I have some extra funds. Morgan
@allsortsofinterests1
@allsortsofinterests1 11 жыл бұрын
You may need to recut the register that the chuck rests on when it is tightened I can see the runout in the reflection of the chuck when it is spinning. Nice work on the tool post! A dial indicator would be a useful tool as well.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
If you take a look at the 'making the permanent spindle' video, you'll see that I have a flat milled on the spindle nose such that the accessories get mounted back in the same place each time. If the lathe wasn't producing good results ( the QCTP turned out awesome ) I would beat my head around reducing the 0.002" runout, but it's working fine now and I'll probably focus on other projects until it becomes an issue. Thanks for the advice though, I'll keep the backplate in mind for sure.
@jdeking2
@jdeking2 10 жыл бұрын
I like your washers on your tool post. I did the same thing until I could make a real ring for my tool post.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Totally, I'm glad you can still get the Gingery books on Amazon, but if I had more time I probably would have bought some of the other books from Lindsay. I so enjoyed getting the catalog from time to time.
@mparkerlisberg
@mparkerlisberg 11 жыл бұрын
I bought a 6X4 bandsaw, they need a bit tweaking, but it is now the most useful item in the shop.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the videos, I think I took a 4 month break due to frustration with hand scraping. You almost need a mentor at first to get an idea of how it should be done - it's more of a feel, than anything you can read in a book. I'm glad I stuck with it, but it has taken a long time to get to this point - moreso due to family related time constraints - work and 2 kiddos make it hard to get in the basement at times :)
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
I haven't noticed much of an accuracy problem, but I haven't done anything extremely accurate on the machine up to this point. I can't be sure if it is just the work piece or the chuck. If you look at the chuck only in the video it is harder to detect, and on the second pass not as much or no wobble - I did check and re-tighten the setscrew backplate at one point in the build, that could have been after that pass, though not 100% sure at this point.
@clockguy2
@clockguy2 11 жыл бұрын
Nice Job. I'm on the fence between one like yours and an AXA wedge tool post.
@fgleich
@fgleich 11 жыл бұрын
Good job mr Demers, you always have good vids. I have a mini lathe and mill too, they are lots of fun just putzing around and making cool little tools. I wish I had room for one of the bigger ones, but I don't right now, and besides, everyone around here in Albuquerque think they are made of gold when they want to sell them ! haha. Keep up the good work pal :)
@mparkerlisberg
@mparkerlisberg 11 жыл бұрын
You made the lathe, bought the mill, what about making a power hacksaw or metal cutting bandsaw to save you having to use the strong arm saw. Unless you do it for the arm muscle work out. Malcolm Malcolm
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Cool on the power hacksaw - I saw a book with some horizontal bandsaw designs in the Lindsay publications catalogs when they were still in business. At this point the cost of the cheapest horizontal bandsaw is reasonable enough that at some point I'll probably just buy one so I can get to other more desirable projects. I do subscribe to MyFordBoy's Channel, he as a lot of good videos / information for sure. If you haven't seen it, mrpete222's channels fantastic ( tubalcain )
@allsortsofinterests1
@allsortsofinterests1 11 жыл бұрын
I looked for the video you posted but couldn't find it however I did go back and watch your other build vids. I think I found where the error (just trying to help) was introduced. When you made the back plate you changed setup before you bored for the spindle. The small face that rests against the spinde is critical and needs the be cut in the same chucking. Do the set screws always fall in the same spot on the spindle? If this were my machine I would like to see a threaded spindle and backplate
@evantoland9822
@evantoland9822 10 жыл бұрын
your lathe sure is quiet when running. Great video, thanks.
@JourneymanRandy
@JourneymanRandy 6 жыл бұрын
Nice simple and ridgid. I like that tool post.
@madaboutpix
@madaboutpix 10 жыл бұрын
it's been said before, i'll say it again... Great Video!!! a little ingenuity and some materials can go a long way.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
I don't have a 4 jaw chuck yet, though definitely desirable. Gingery has some plans in book #6 for a cast aluminum 4 jaw chuck which I may attempt to build, otherwise I'll definitely end up buying one at some point. Even with this video, it would have been much nicer to use a 4 jaw chuck to hold the tool holder for the boring operation, versus having to clamp it to the faceplate. Cheers, Morgan
@paultrimble9390
@paultrimble9390 Жыл бұрын
Yes Sir that's nice. Make a good project for me to put it on my DB200.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Well clearly that was one of the main reasons for making the toolpost - without it I had to have it overhang like that to cut close enough to the chuck for the work being done. Thanks for the concern though, believe me, I hold safety with the highest regard - I have two young kids after all that I want to see grow up. Best Regards, Morgan
@mikelkie
@mikelkie 10 жыл бұрын
A live centre will also be a good investment nice job
@iiianydayiii
@iiianydayiii 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. Good work
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
I hear that, I'll probably be using the lathe a lot more for projects at this point - versus building the lathe, and will be cutting larger diameter stock to parts I'm sure, etc... At some point I'll most likely buy one for the sake of time ( and to give my arm a break ).
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Well how it is in the video is how far it has to be in order to not run the cross slide into the chuck. With the new toolpost it is no longer an issue and I keep just the cutting edge out. Most people using the lantern style will also have the lantern style tool holders for it which get you to where I wanted to be, closer to the chuck. Glad you like the videos - I definitely value the lathe, I put a lot of time in, and I'll be able to use it to do some real work so it was definitely worth it.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Also, what kind of lathe did you make - completely from scratch or did you follow some plans like the Gingery Lathe. Is that 0.5 mm or .05 mm? If 0.05 mm that's not too bad, about 2 thousandths - my cheap chinese 3-jaw chuck has 0.002" of runout anyways not considering the lathe. You must have a dial indicator, get a magnetic base if you don't have one. Put it on the ways and test your spindle nose and then chuck for runout. Also try and move the spindle back and forth and see the deflection.
@asaflas5866
@asaflas5866 10 жыл бұрын
Nice job done with patience. Guess you need a bit bigger lathe for this kind of work. I wouldn't bother to make this part except for self education or demonstration purposes just because same part on sale cost less than time needed to make this. Happy turning and milling :-)
@steamjunkprops
@steamjunkprops 9 жыл бұрын
There is an old machinist say "We make the things we can buy, to prepare us for the things we cannot"
@AndrewTubbiolo
@AndrewTubbiolo 11 жыл бұрын
DO you have a 4 jaw chuck? Once I got mine and became proficient in centering stock, even square stock, I never use my 3 jaw except for cheap thrills.
@sneakystaffie
@sneakystaffie 10 жыл бұрын
You poor guy ! hack saws are old school, A small angle grinder with a 1mm wide cutoff wheel makes cutting steel a breeze. Cheers :)
@timmer9lives
@timmer9lives 6 жыл бұрын
I do agree. A 4-1/2" angle grinder will serve you well Morgan. I used angle grinder cut off discs and then found a used Band saw. That said, I still have a 4-1/2" angle grinder set up specially as a cut off tool. Use an angle grinder and then clean it up on the mill. The HF grinders work fine and will only set you back 25.00. Once you start using one, you'll never look back. Always use eye protection with them. They will get crap in your eyes. Good video and thanks for posting.
@Guds777
@Guds777 11 жыл бұрын
I absolutely think this is amazing...
@Rolingmetal
@Rolingmetal 8 жыл бұрын
I like it a lot, and I'll try making one. Thanks for the video.
@TheJamminjeff
@TheJamminjeff 10 жыл бұрын
nice job just one tip when you drill a hole on your mill chuck up the tap and us the mill.drill press to start you tap you will tap hole perfectly parallel you are loving life now keep chipping away! jamminjeff
@mcdangdang
@mcdangdang 10 жыл бұрын
what is the centering tool called that you had chucked in you mill to center wookpiece that was centerpunched?
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Hey, sorry on the video link - youtube doesn't allow links in comments so you would have had to have copied and pasted it to the address bar replacing the [dot] with an actual period. I'll message you the link. Anyways, the runout as tested is 0.002" which I think is acceptable for the machine. The test cert. for the chuck has the permissible runout as 0.0016" and as tested 0.001". I believe my spindle nose has 0.001" runout anyways though I'd have to test it again.
@sacriptex5870
@sacriptex5870 11 жыл бұрын
hey morgan on 4:00 i´ve noticed some shaking and wobbling on chuck... did you have some problems with accuracy? im doing a homemade lathe its been a hell to make very accurate chuck spin i have .0.5 mm error!!! and i cant fix!
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. I do in fact have a dial indicator, and if you watched any of my other videos you will see it used quite a bit to verify the accuracy of the machine as I'm going along. Anyways, I just tested out the check and took a quick video, the runout as indicated is about 0.002" which is within the tolerances of the chuck itself - possibly a wobbly camera is what you are seeing - video verifying the 0.002" runout - youtu[dot]be/GpQDuz3EA54 - replace the [dot] with a .
@skrjd
@skrjd 11 жыл бұрын
on 19:04 and further the same. Great video!!! But can you set more lamps? Please
@oldmachinist9265
@oldmachinist9265 8 жыл бұрын
Nice work, just 1 question. Have you ever used your mill to tap. I find it easier to get a pretty threaded hole
@radiozener
@radiozener 11 жыл бұрын
Hadn't seen a video from you in awhile, thought maybe you had "passed thru the Vail"!
@ZappninLLP
@ZappninLLP 10 жыл бұрын
Great job! Thanks for posting.
@fireblade639
@fireblade639 9 жыл бұрын
by the way, those qctp look great.
@LabRatJason
@LabRatJason 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent video... I've been thinking about buying a tool holder from A-Z for my craftsman lathe, but after watching this vid, I'm convinced I'll do it myself. One question though, I don't have a mill, and I don't have collets to hold an endmill in my lathe... but I do have a 4 jaw. Do you think it would work to put an endmill in the 4 jaw and true it up? or is there a better way to cut the slot for the tool holder? Also, I think I'd put a more permanent handle on the rotation lock nut, so you don't have to search for a wrench every time you want to loosen and rotate it.
@chips4289
@chips4289 9 жыл бұрын
make an end mill holder for your chuck. years ago I did that for a tap. taps, end mills sorta the same idea. they are both very hard metals and will slip in your chuck. so I made a piece my tap fit into perfectly and then drilled and tapped into the side a set screw to lock down on the flat spot of the tap so it wouldn't rotate in my holder. I am going to make a bunch soon to fit all the taps and end mills
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
No wobble in the chuck at 19:04, it is because the piece being turned is not true - it was just a piece of aluminum I had lying around to test it out real quick - look just at the chuck. sorry about the lighting, just moved and is a new shop and I need to install some utility lights.
@TheJamminjeff
@TheJamminjeff 10 жыл бұрын
invest in a small boring bar for the mill then holes get real fun also a holder for boring tool is rougher easy one that i found handy one straight one with rake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jijzer4581
@jijzer4581 11 жыл бұрын
good job sorry i am going to copy your idea so simple great job mate
@jmanatee
@jmanatee 11 жыл бұрын
Cool video, What is that thing called that helps you center the drill press over your mark?
@FinalAnimus
@FinalAnimus 11 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a drill press, that was a milling machine. That tool is called a Center finder. It is similar to an edge finder.
@jmanatee
@jmanatee 11 жыл бұрын
cool thanks
@AndrewTubbiolo
@AndrewTubbiolo 11 жыл бұрын
@6:11. Nice workout. Check out MyFordBoy's channel. He has a design for a power recip hack saw that's an attachment to his lathe. Might be a perfect add on to your uber cool lathe.
@jeffebenal4994
@jeffebenal4994 10 жыл бұрын
I did enjoy your video! I have to ask though, is the red stuff on the end of the piece of metal at 6:01 blood? That's what happens to me if I try to use a hack saw for any length of time. I'm extra impressed by you getting through that hunk of metal with such a crude device. I direct you to "hacksaw" on the following page: www.mez.co.uk/haynes.html
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff, Thanks for the comment. No it wasn't blood ( it was a drop, possibly a bad cut ), though I probably did get a blister or two from cutting through that piece of metal with a hacksaw. Checking out your link now. Cheers, Morgan
@Danbackboard
@Danbackboard 10 жыл бұрын
Hello from Brazil. Congratulations, great video. Very good. I built a hydraulic QCTP, seen like that?
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 10 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen a hydraulic QCTP, is it automated for a CNC machine? If you have a video send it over I'd love to check it out. Best, Morgan
@Lechoslowianin
@Lechoslowianin 11 жыл бұрын
Each knife another. You do not need to change the blade.
@fireblade639
@fireblade639 9 жыл бұрын
get a band saw, you'll find it very helpfull, i used to cut 1"thick aluminium by hand. just thinking of it my arms start to hurt...
@ammagato
@ammagato 11 жыл бұрын
You did a good job, though, I think that the sooner you will need to buy a new caliber seen the use you make of it.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Hey Elio, Thanks for the comment. Definitely no worries on the calipers, those are the $9 Harbor Freight variety, and it definitely won't be much of an expense get more as need be - if it was a Starrett I would be much more careful. Cheers, Morgan
@Lechoslowianin
@Lechoslowianin 11 жыл бұрын
You had to do the three blades
@ammagato
@ammagato 11 жыл бұрын
Hai fatto un buon lavoro, anche se, credo che quanto prima dovrai comprare un nuovo calibro visto l'uso che ne fai.
@kevCarrico
@kevCarrico 9 жыл бұрын
well done!!!
@sacriptex5870
@sacriptex5870 11 жыл бұрын
dude!! amazing video...!!
@brenocontruccitorneiro772
@brenocontruccitorneiro772 7 жыл бұрын
good jobs. i from Brazil i made one QCTP on your
@oneandy2
@oneandy2 11 жыл бұрын
Dang, now I feel like I wasted money on that phase 2 QCTP set I just got...
@TrailBusterBrute1
@TrailBusterBrute1 9 жыл бұрын
The lathe is said to be the only machine that could replicate itself. Too bad I never see this. SOMEBODY always whips out a milling machine to make a part. Nice job though.
@dasworkshop4967
@dasworkshop4967 7 жыл бұрын
I've always taken that old saying as a semi-truth. If you have a lathe with a cross slide milling attachment, then yes, otherwise not a prayer.
@kubeek
@kubeek 11 жыл бұрын
nice work, but in what way is that Quick change? you need to undo the bolts to change your tool, this is more of a quick setup toolpost
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
It's a quick change tool post, because you end up making tool holders for each type of tool, and then you only loosen up the mounting clamp, and switch out the tool holder - you don't have to loosen the bolts to quick change unless you only have one holder for the post...
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, it seems like such a trivial device that would have been created with some of the earliest lathes - is it this one: www.google.com/patents/US10939, there are tons of patents by people making lathe dog improvements.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Cool, I saw an article in the nytimes about it when searching for it, I'd imagine most people able to invent new things would have a multitude of inventions. Where are you guys at?
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
Cool, if ever I'm in the area during working hours I'll hit you up
@ТитенчукАнтон
@ТитенчукАнтон 2 жыл бұрын
Гениально и просто, молодец Этого решения Я и искал
@FinalAnimus
@FinalAnimus 11 жыл бұрын
you should REALLY work between centers when machining anything longer than an inch or two
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 10 жыл бұрын
I hear that, I just got the chuck mounted on the lathe and wanted to test it out. Typically I would machine between centers on this particular lathe for long pieces.
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 11 жыл бұрын
three blades? what?
@laurentcnc6662
@laurentcnc6662 11 жыл бұрын
I watched many of your videos. Congratulations for the lathe work ! I have also a little machining channel where you can see some interesting thing hope you will like it :-)
@Hilario.design
@Hilario.design 10 жыл бұрын
Very interesting design. Now u just need to make 'n' blocks for 'n' tools ... Simple, effective and not expensive idea ! Btw, which milling machine is that ?
@MorganDemers
@MorganDemers 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, not my original design but it is a nice toolpost and as need be I can make new blocks for tools, etc... If I didn't have a milling machine this toolpost could have still be made with just the lathe itself ( To cut the slot you would mount the block to the post, and use the spindle with an endmill holder to mill the slot ) which is nice. The Mill is a Grizzly Mini Mill ( G8689 ).
@40cleco
@40cleco 11 жыл бұрын
Please don't wear gloves when operating a lathe......nice work.
@ilskr12
@ilskr12 11 жыл бұрын
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