Sewing the world's OLDEST BRA!

[@MorganDonner]

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[@pay1370]

Hmmm some kind of victorian top? I feel like that would be a good way to fit simple shirts over a corset. Or perhaps you just want to invent the world's creakiest dress 😂.

[@renarde_0173]

Cerane wrap and duct tape scream dress form for me👀... and a big mess with plaster and PU foam 😅

[@skadiscamander9851]

you're going to do some fabric smocking, aren't you (or at least I hope so)

[@verykoolsauce5910]

Maybe a corset?

[@muirgirl]

Thanks, girl!

[@hattyburrow716]

You know, that’s not a million miles from the little hippie tops we wore in in the early 70s. Very cute, and acute detective work. A ‘touch me’ dress with a ‘do not touch me’ belt, very a la mode

[@Hremo_158]

LOL!! So True. I was making 2 -3 of them a week back then. They were more halter style and tied in the back though.

[@karenfitzpatrick6256]

I was thinking that too. Back in those days, bras were left I the drawer so the top had to do whatever was done in the final shape. Nothing for support, but as a teen I didn't much care.

[@johannaholmgren8088]

Lol. Of course when we were teens, we had the figures to carry off wearing those little hippie tops.

[@Константин-д6щ]

Hippism brought drug culture into the American social structure.

[@criminallyautistic8372]

You know you might be right in the bloody button there dude. Love your way of thinking and name.

[@whydidthetilda]

As a bra maker you did really well with the fitting! Just a tip for anyone recreating: if you want more volume in these cups try cutting it horizontally at the centre, not at the top of the cups. This should give you a more projected "bra" shape, if that's the look you're going for. Morgan's method probably works better for a more classic bodice look though

[@skullsrnneed]

Do you have any tips for ladies that have bigger cups size (us size h+) but smaller bands and making garments that have support but don’t use a bra? Or general tips?

[@whydidthetilda]

@@skullsrnneed It really depends on what you're looking for, in general finding boned patterns, making sure you're using a strong material to lime bodices, and getting comfortable with full bust adjustments will go a long way. I would suggest taking a look at the corset making community

[@cottoncandie761]

You're so right about the horizontal idea, creating a sort of shelf for the breast to sit onto. Would you have any tips for someone whose trying to get enough depth from a horizontal pattern, but the cup goes flat once it's tried on?

[@whydidthetilda]

@@cottoncandie761 I meant spreading the pattern at the horizontal mark, not using a horizontally seamed pattern What are you making? This, a bra? Does it have wires in it?

[@hannnahcampbell472]

@@skullsrnneed look at Freya for bras! I'm UK 28J and they actually carry my size.

[@petiteminipizza]

I have to say, when I saw the first medieval image of a bathing house dress, I immediately thought "summer dress!" ^^

[@MorganDonner]

1000%! I still need to make one with the gathered bust someday, such peak summer dress vibes!

[@LyndseyMacPherson]

I know! It's so pretty.

[@pugilism]

Massive fan of the accidental sexy midpoint... there's just something super fun about the idea of making a risqué version for any medieval garment. Also looking forward to a sprang-learning video someday in the future lol

[@Velociraptour]

All of a sudden "sexy + (insert epoch here)" Halloween costumes don't seem soooo blasphemous. Maybe it's just the plasticky and possibly flammable fabric.

[@m.maclellan7147]

It looked like something Madonna would wear on stage !

[@lajsa8160]

Yesss I'm here for the sprang hype!

[@karenfitzpatrick6256]

Agreed!

[@larenkevin4531]

Maybe sprang in the gap at the top of the cups, instead of lacing?

[@a.munroe]

It looks like a slip my Gran made for me when I started to fill out as a teen. Her and my great-Gran knit a wool one to go over it in the winter. Looking back it was my most lived in article of clothing. They made it out of layers of really thin linen and I had it until it fell off me and couldn't be patched anymore. Pretty sure my mom secretly disposed of it. Lol

[@a.munroe]

The lacing was small and on both sides and we used elastic string for to lace.

[@2degucitas]

A knitted wool slip? Wow! Was it itchy?

[@a.munroe]

@@2degucitas yes at first . I had to use vinegar to soften it regularly, they chose a yarn that was soft but it still was rougher than what I was used to.

[@2degucitas]

@@a.munroe Makes me feel itchy.

[@karenfitzpatrick6256]

@@a.munroe Sounds extra warm. A blessing in this freezing weather!

[@hannayoung9657]

Here in Sweden, bathing suit wasn't recommend for swimming / Bathing but for walking at the beaches , because the wet fabric would cool you down and get you sick and that would be dangerous, so go to cold swim house and bathe naked instead. I have a book from 1850 talking about the healthy and long held tradition of swimming naked here and how it makes people strong and gentle.

[@infamoussphere7228]

Oh I am sure so much of it is cultural - what with Sweden/Finland/Germany having a pretty well-established tradition of bathing naked and/or having sauna naked. And I'm sure it differed by century - the 18th century might have been more OK with naked bathing than the 19th, for instance. In the recent adaptation of Sanditon they show that the men are swimming naked whereas the women have to do the whole bathing machine bathing gown shenanigans.

[@milkispolitics]

Do you know when swimsuits started to be worn for actually swimming? :)

[@lenaeospeixinhos]

Strong and gentle, that's amazing 😂❤

[@Kimmie6772]

I think that was somewhat a thing is the US during the time of the founding fathers as well. Some people preferred naked dipping in the rivers and I don't think swimming garment was that well established. A lot of the colonies were founded with rather prudish communities so it was really a thing men did and only ever alone or with trusted people. That makes me think of if swimming was even popular as a past time in those days or if people primarily just saw it for cleaning and not much as a doing it just to swim. In the late 1800s to mid 1900s swimming garments tended to be more full body and somewhat more meant for wading than diving around or anything. I guess it makes sense when you think of what kind of fabrics we had available. I don't know if it would feel comfortable to get wet in those types of clothes unless they were made highly woven or flowy.

[@kfl611]

And no doubt helped me little baby Swedes.......

[@alexreywils]

I looove this! As someone who can NEVER find a bra that fits right, this medieval option looks so comfy. And linen in the summer is a dream. I may have to buy this pattern, as my drafting skills aren't there yet

[@dees3179]

Have a go. Use really big seams so you can keep adjusting. Worth a try. Especially if you can use fabric you already have like old bed linens that have a few holes. I’ve got pyjamas made out of a quilt cover that I made from no pattern.

[@6thgraderfriends]

Ever since I first started sewing, I always wondered if I could make my own bras. I told myself that no one ever does it and it must be really complicated. Well now, look at this!

[@alexreywils]

@Dee S I've got a nice sized inherited stash of fabrics. I'm slowly working through it. Definitely some linens in there. I've made a few bedgowns and a skirt already

[@Ajlez]

I gave up on trying to wear bras long ago. It was miraculous when I finally learned the whole truth of "don't add band inches when doing the measurement that's just demanded because they don't sell enough sizes" etc, but it was just too expensive to experiment much with! Now I think, what if I had actually engaged with the... uh.. tailoring community back then? Could have been really useful.

[@cuteduckdontlie4636]

Brallets can help you maybe !

[@BilalHeuser1]

Its amazing the amount of engineering that goes into making something as simple as a bra ...

[@cosplaypatternco4904]

Part of the reason why the Duct tape pattern was fitting the way it was on the 1st sample is because you did not fit exactly to your chest. Since you taped yourself in to a mono-bossom the pattern made a mono-bossom garment.

[@Pumorastickt]

I just love your sense of humor XD The bath dress looks so cute! I wonder if the smoothing out of the taped cups might be why the curve wasn't right at first? Now I'm curious how the researcher's pattern is going to look like :D

[@MorganDonner]

It definitely could be! I have a suspicion though that the strongest factor affecting the first mock-up was wearing clothing and a bra underneath the duct tape, and how the cling film sort of extra smoothed things out. If you compare my first mock-up and how I looked in the duct tape, I think that they are actually quite close! It just turns out that wasn't quite what I wanted for the finished product 😉

[@loonybinreject]

@@MorganDonner glad you were protected from the tape though. Can't imagine how painful it would be to take duct tape off of boob skin

[@loonybinreject]

@Phantom I saw someone use duct tape to wax their legs as part of a comparison on hair removal products and it looks like it took off skin. Deffo not something I'd want to try!

[@becauseimafan]

@@loonybinreject I feel like I saw that as a kid watching The Red Green Show! Man, did they ever love using their duct tape for everything! 😂 #DuctTapeForever

[@becauseimafan]

Looking it up, I completely forgot they made a Red Green movie - and it was called Duct Tape Forever! 😆 And my mind has been blown : There's an official Red Green KZbin channel with all 300 episodes on there?! 🤯 Awwwww yeaaaaah gonna binge that! 🎶 _I been hit_ 🎵 _with the Nostalgia Stick_ 🎶 #forashowibarelyrememberbutshhhh 🤫😁

[@buergermeisterin87]

I had the pleasure to look at the original piece and drew the patterns for several garments from this finds some years back during my archaelogy studies.

[@catherinemunn6654]

THE RIBBON - it’s all about the poetry ribbon for me!!! I love that poem so much.

[@lynnsaull5723]

That was great! I love the multi functionality of historical clothing, bath dress, summer nightie or extra under garment, take your pick!

[@KHFFSE]

Oh my gosh, the mockup is giving me vibes of the stewardess outfit from The Fifth Element haha there are two different stewardess outfits, but one has décolletage cutouts like that haha As someone who is both learning to sew, and wants to make a bustier at some point, this is really inspiring! Thanks for sharing ~

[@lindsaythegreat]

That was definitely what sprang to my mind, too!

[@AlmaChroma]

It reminded me of the ladies from afterlife in mass effect

[@telltalesketch]

"You know how sometimes you look at a bra and go 'eeeeeeeh I don't think that bra is gonna fit me'" That thought is precisely why I switched to wearing historical corsets over bras on the daily. Tiny ribcage + large bust = 🙃

[@Laurabeck329]

It's not much fun other way around either trust me

[@larenkevin4531]

Loving that 20's vibe with your hair in this video. Finger waves really look cute with your face shape!

[@elisa.llew-send]

OMG I’d LOOOOVE to have like five of these to use as undergarments! I always wear dresses and this would make an excellent option for summer days where underwire isn’t so nice and anything other than linen directly against your bare skin is YUCKKK! Add in some drop down straps for use in nursing and you’re literally sitting on a GOLD MINE. Honestly, I wish I could commission these from you, they’re that amazing. I think you should consider drafting these and patenting the design. Not even kidding.

[@krysab6125]

YES! The Lengburg bra!! I've been fascinated by it for so long, especially as a more... 'top-heavy' woman, wondering how people like me managed in the past! I wonder how much the lacing, cording, shaping of this garment ties in with the gradual move towards the stays and bodices of later centuries? I wonder if there was more cording, stiffening being added, and shaping in undergarments? We'll never really know, but fascinating to think about!

[@elizabethclaiborne6461]

Since it’s for going to a bath, a communal activity, it wouldn’t get a lot of structure. As soon as you got wet that’d be miserable. This was a very simple modesty garment around other women. Women didn’t get enormous tatas so much in the past, no synthetic hormones and limited calories kept them under control. A D cup was the largest bra stores regularly stocked until the ‘80’s when we all exploded into G and H. Kirtles had structure to support and were a regular daily first layer. You can search this on YT.

[@sprotte6665]

I think you‘re wrong. Women were big in the past, just look at old paintings and Catherine the great. Plus I‘m a relatively skinny Person with E or F cups, cup sizes aren‘t absolute, they are relative to underbust circumference.

[@katiedunmore2184]

Not always, some of use have wider bands for our smaller cup size and need extenders

[@sisuguillam5109]

@@elizabethclaiborne6461 uuuuhhh... not so sure about your claim about the 80s. That was not due to langer sizes not being needed but due to them simply not being offered for sale.

[@annedavis3340]

@@elizabethclaiborne6461 well-endowed women existed. We've got LOTS of extant garments from before food hormones etc What a strange claim!

[@Marialla.]

What I noticed in the "string-fitting" garment was how perfectly flat to your chestbone the top part rested. The strings curved nicely over each side, giving a sense of separation and shape. But in the finished garment the top part popped away from your skin, and you got more of a monoboob effect. I think what this garment really needs is for the circles cut into the chest binder to be completed, not just crescent moon shapes. Don't sew the cups to each other. Let there be separation between the breasts and increase the depth of the cups on the inner sides. The chest portion of the garment should fit flat against the chest, not angled away at all. And you were exactly correct that the seams of the first try were in the wrong place. The seams belong at the crease (all around) where your breast starts and your chest ends. Sprang is a very stretchy sort of weave, similar to a string shopping bag, or a hairnet. It supports vertically, but allows free stretch sideways. This may have been put there to allow for chest expansion while reaching and lifting. If you can make a chest portion that fits closely to your body, with holes that your breasts fit comfortably through, but with the edges of those holes precisely where your breast edges are, then the way to fit the breasts perfectly would be to put a circle of fabric over each breast and pinch out the darts needed, while wearing the chest foundation.

[@annedavis3340]

That is how the fit could be improved for a look mire expected or flattering for modern eyes. Cause we only have the one extant garment and it doesn't look like they did that it’s not as likely to be accurate? But who knows. We only have one garment and it was for a smaller-breasted person

[@Carly1352]

I completely agree with you. The chest gore is where the major difference is between her’s and the historical garment. Absolutely love this video and thinking I will try to make one too.

[@Marialla.]

@@annedavis3340 You're right, I'm making assumptions. Sorry. My own breasts are widely-spaced and do well with center chest support, but not everyone is built that way. Someone with little to no space between their breasts would find it most comfortable sewn as shown.

[@annedavis3340]

@@Marialla. yes, that's also true! Mine are very large but the roots are rather close to each other, I can’t even put a finger flat on my sternum between them without touching both At once. I always think it's so interesting how varied human breasts are, there's asymmetry as well. This looks really comfortable, I am seriously considering making one for me 🤣 This has been a nice, enriching conversation. Thank you so much!

[@TheRaeraeraerae]

I am very big (they’re as big as my head!!!) with a small back and I desperately need something to wear at night as absolutely nothing I have found helps with the uncomfortable smoosh when I lie on my side. I have permanent vertical wrinkles on my chest which I hate. Your comment and this video is going to really help me make something to help, thanks all!

[@mollyholleran1015]

Well done! That looks like a great summer slip option if you want some breathable linen and don't want to fuss with modern undergarments. Unfortunately all this fresh snow today means you'll have to wait a few months before the rivers are warm enough.

[@CrystalPegasusCostumes]

Great job, as always! I particularly like how you worked through the bust adjustments and added in space there. Plus it looks so pretty!

[@MorganDonner]

I didn't know what I was doing when I started cutting the cups apart, but I am very happy it worked out!

[@simonecummings9157]

Am I the only one who finds Morgan hugging her model stand adorable? Like just casual affection with a friend while you're doin' your outro.

[@kiragarvie]

I would love to hear what Mr. Morgan Donner's reactions are when you walk out of the sewing room covered in tape and plastic wrap saying "honey, I need your help for a sec..."

[@HosCreates]

My understanding is the Donners have been married for a good time maybe 8or so years so I'm sure he's used to helping her with her shenanigans. My husband and I have been married 9 years. My husband is a great help and is a handy extra hand. He's may not get my vision but says "how can I help?" Where do you want me to pinch and pin?

[@ragnkja]

Remember that you're talking about the man who helped his wife build a bustle chair.

[@fawn2911]

​@@HosCreatesok

[@wizrockitout]

When you showed up in that bow tie I screamed. SUCH A LOOK. So good.

[@Llepidoptra]

My spouse and I were literally talking like last week about whether I could try making a custom bra for my ridiculously-sensitive, thin EDS skin that would fit my proportionately-large chest and, um, yeah I guess so. Wish I could sew well enough but I kinda want to try it now.

[@robintheparttimesewer6798]

Go for it!! If your first attempt isn’t something that you want to show anyone then rename it prototype 1. Your sewing will improve as will your prototypes!! Oh and start your testing with a sheeting material or a sheet that only has edges of good material!! I’m sure you can make something great that you will enjoy.

[@brendaleelydon]

There are SOOOO many bra patterns out there now, from the modern underwire styles, to bralettes, to the highly structured but without boning styles of the 40s & 50s. There's also kits with all the finding you could need. Depending on what adjustments you need to make (no elastic, no metal, etc), you may have to do a little zhuzhing of your own, but I think it's a very doable project! My favorite bras for those of us that are "big rack, small back" are from a Polish company named Comexim. I get the best rate by ordering direct (about $50 for 1 bra inc shipping), plus they'll even do small customizations for free (like make it 3 hook vs 2 hook, move a strap in a bit, make this style bra but with the fabric from that style, make it a longline, etc). I find the 3HC style works best, but everyone's shaped differently; I have short roots, my girls are fuller on the bottom & in the center, & I'm very projected. I find the wires in these bras arent so tall they stabinate my armpits, haha! Once I found these, I was, like, "OMG! I don't need to rip off my bra as I'm walking in the door at the end of the day anymore!" ahem. I've digressed a bit. ;-) Anyway, you might get more info on how to fit yourself from r/abrathatfits & it could help you towards finding a company you might like, and even just to give you ideas about better ways to fit one you make yourself.

[@Llepidoptra]

@@brendaleelydon I'm very familiar with abtf :) my issue is that my skin is so sensitive that even a well-fitting bra will abrade the tissue under the bottom of the band - I have scars on my ribs and where the middle of the front meets my chest. I never ended up ordering from comexim or ewa michalak but they were on my list.

[@brendaleelydon]

@@Llepidoptra That was kinda the idea I was getting when you mentioned EDS. :-/ Do you know what fabrics could work for you? Since you seem pretty knowledgeable already, I presume you've heard of the Breast Nest? When I'm out of the house, I prefer the girls front & center, but when I'm home, I just don't want them touching my skin, haha. I have had great luck with using those washable 'bra saver' thingies that go between your band & your skin, because I sweat so much (thanks, anxiety!) that I get open sores, etc. I use those things even on my 'at home' bras. My favorites are the all bamboo ones, but I like my bamboo/cotton terry ones too. I wonder if a wool or silk or well-worn linen would work for you as an additional barrier when you find a product that works fairly well? Good luck on your journey! And again, I absolutely think it's a doable project!!

[@FlickiChicki]

FYI, another EDSer here. This bra does not work at all for small band, large cup. I’ve tried a dozen times or more.

[@coolthinghere6853]

a very clever way to get a better fitting! reminds me of a lot of fashion bralettes. for anyone else watching that would like to use this idea as an everyday undergarment, i really recommend looking up bra drafting and fitting, as the center gore is meant to lay flat on the chest between the cups. it makes the bodice a lot more comfortable and easier to move in underneath other layers.

[@katrinalinde-m.1313]

A part of me really wants to go in and add embroidery all around it. I think some wildflowers springing from the hem and a nice border design along the top of the bodice would be cute.

[@MorganDonner]

That would be so stinking cute 🌻

[@funguscake]

This bra with just a few tiny modifications looks way more comfortable than most bra they sell at wamart

[@annika_abroad7307]

This video comes at the exact moment that I realized that you English speaking people have missed the opportunity to call bras booby traps 😂😂

[@suzannebudlong8376]

😂😂😂 oh my goodness!!! Did we ever!!!! 😂😂😂

[@marvellousmrsmoller]

Booby traps is the name for an Australian company that sells bra making supplies!

[@lisawaters2585]

Hahahahahaha

[@anitamitchell3452]

Back when I was in school they were called ... Over the shoulder boulder holders. That was a very long time ago.

[@brendaleelydon]

OMW, when you said, "I think I could make the cups a bit more round" I was so worried you wouldn't realize you just needed a LOT more fullness in the cups, heh heh. I would likely add even more, honestly, though at a certain point you run into Breast Nest syndrome, and while comfy, is A Lewk, to say the least! Very cute garment!!

[@grisusweetie]

I never even thought about using the duck tape method! I have attempted a Lengberg bra pattern three times now and have just tabled it because I just couldn’t get it to work for me. Like, at all. Even when basing it on my fitted medieval block. Thanks for showing your process!

[@marabuora9547]

If you do try the duct tape method, my advice is get someone else to wrap you up, especially in the back (speaking from experience. I had duct tape all over myself, and not necessarily all of it had the protective film wrap between it and me😅😂)

[@FlickiChicki]

Same. The Lengberg bra will not work for me. Small band, large cup issue.

[@katarzynamolendys9158]

OH MY GOD! THE "NOLI ME TANGERE" RIBBON! LOVE IT! Also, because I am learning art history in school I had some "flashbacks" from The New Testament iconography. I love Your approach to all of the historical recreations You do. It's just, as Rachel Maksy would say, "a cheff's kiss". Lots of hugs Catherine

[@toosolidcuuj]

A medieval bath house dress accessorized with a ribbon that says "touch me not" in Latin - the vibes are impeccable

[@MayimHastings]

4:16 “Saran wrapped… muh bust.” I don’t know if it’s just sleep deprivation, but the way you said that made me laugh so hard.

[@youarebymyside]

The bust fits so nicely at the end. Such nice piece of clothing.

[@mo_roos]

I have to record for posterity: when Morgan tried on the initial mock-up, YT cut to an ad that, in the most incredible transition of all time, began with the line: “I finally found a cute top that supports my chest!” Even though I’ve watched this video before, I had to double take to see if it had been inserted as a joke. 😅

[@Skullkiddawn]

A big part of the issue with the first mockup was probably the tape form being taken with a bra on. It's always better to draft a support garment from the point your breasts just kinda naturally are.

[@MorganDonner]

Yep! 💯👌

[@RachaelCarri]

I watched this video when it came out, but didn't get a chance to finish it. While sitting here in my husbands hospital room I decided to watch the end. So glad I did!!! I needed a laugh. It was very much not a terrible idea. Thank you. :)

[@wild_lee_coyote]

The one thing I have found out from using duck tape forms is they tend to squish the body a bit more than is comfortable. If you are going to do a duck tape form just lay the tape on as loosely as possible, from one end of the tape to the other. Having the shirt and modern bra on under probably helped keep it from being too tight but you also lost some of the contouring you needed. That is why you had to add to the cups. But overall this is a good video and hopefully you can find a nice hot spring to try it at since that is the closest we have to bathhouses.

[@reditaliangirl]

I have a old bra, 150 years ago, it's exactly like the yours but shorter. So goood job girl!

[@msk4795]

LOL! Love the bathroom scenes. Bravo. That is a lovely bath dress, and if I was even remotely talented enough to make it I would do so..even if I would need a feeeeeeew more inches or feet of fabric. This is why I so enjoy watching your channel. Your work is always a piece of art, from the fabric to your hair. Thank you for sharing it all.

[@adedow1333]

"This is not where I thought this video was going" regret Lol!

[@MaryMangan]

OMG! Sprang! In the wild! I crave a class in sprang. The lacemakers have had a few lectures lately on that and I'm so intrigued to try it one of these day. Seek out the Sprang Lady.

[@miaf474]

i know absolutely nothing about sewing or making clothing (apart from the basic back stitch my grandma taught me as a child) but i still love this video. it’s so informative and interesting and i love how articulate yet entertaining morgan is. great video :)

[@meamela9820]

Oh, I have seen those extant pictures before and wondered how it worked. Interesting to see! Also I love your hair evolution through each video. Different hairstyle each month and all look fabulous!

[@mjlSews]

It looks so comfy, a great base layer or summer dress! The difference the cup shape made was also very interesting, and I'm kinda here for the laced-up mockup version, too :D I also love that you actually went and took a shower and bath in this. Though, from those medieval images it looked more like the garment was meant for working in hot, humid, environments and not for bathing specifically. But yeah, interesting deep dive in medieval undergarments, and a really cute end result!

[@lydiakies9053]

I had a summer dress shaped a lot like that. It had the ability to tie tiers in the skirt to shorten it slightly if desired.

[@ms-rachel-anne]

I was so impressed by the transformation from the first version to the second, when she just replaced the cups. When I saw the first one, I was like "wow that's a bummer, it doesn't fit her bust/cup size at all and she'll have to redo it." But then just by using a really ingenious method to measure the needed additional cup size and then remaking the cups, she made it fit so much better for the second attempt. Really impressive! Also, I was living for the "accidentally sexy" top in the middle there lol.

[@infamoussphere7228]

Morgan is a fitting master. As someone who really loathes fitting, I admire her persistence and ability to avoid being discouraged so much

[@lwoods507]

I cracked up laughing at your face when you looked down at yourself at the mid-stage when it was a peekaboo boob-top and said "surprisingly sexy" A very amusing and informative video, thank you for posting!

[@swish3432]

Peekaboob top

[@tamssnazzystuff]

Yes! You did it! Really fun video Morgan. I figured most people just went swimming in the buff, but I thought maybe a medieval take on modern swimwear is where you'd end up. But you found the actual thing that they wore in and around water. Never underestimate your research skills.

[@JO-rx4tk]

I think that center front piece would look lovely with some "cutwork embroidery." Basically, you embroider a lace-like design and then cut out the negative space after. The embroidery keeps the cut threads from unraveling. It's really lovely and wouldn't require that panel to be removed at all.

[@renarde_0173]

Ooh, I'm so excited you tried out the Lengberg Bra/Dress! I didn't know about bath dresses before and just imagined everyone was skinny dipping and that the bra/bodice was made for someone who wanted more support under a shift and kirtle. The round cups give me 80's comic book Valkyrie armour vibes, but, like, as a cute summer dress 😆. Maybe because the seams are lighter than the rest of the dress and accentuate the pattern pieces, idk. Your method of adjusting the pattern with those loose seams and the "surprisingly sexy" look is very smart, looks like way less fuss than ripping open and basting together again and again! I love your vibes and your hair and this dress 🥰

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

Lmao, I literally just commented on an Elden Ring let’s play about how weird it is that FromSoftware games always have female character underwear shown as a simple tied of piece of cloth. The unflatteringly named Breast Bags were a thing. They even had smocks with support and the under bodice.

[@titian-red]

Excellent! I watched your video while doing the hand sewing on my daughter's dress, but almost stabbed myself at, "This is not where I thought this video would go." 😆 It wasn't where I thought it would go either! 😆

[@claycrazyr2]

SPRANG LACE AAAAAHHHHHH [excited] I got started doing sprang a couple months ago. Carol James (book, KZbin) , Peter Collingwood (books), and Solrhiza Arts (KZbin) are the best resources I know of right now

[@novaconetta1577]

The netting in the front of the original garment (I think you called it sprang?) looks similar to fabric produced with crochet. The type of crochet used for making lace and doilies. Beautiful creation!

[@melaniegroot8463]

Your videos are always so fun and innovative! I'd always wondered what the Lemburg bra would look like with more than a tenth of its fabric remaining -- it's so satisfying to see the beautiful final results!

[@LadyBirdieBop]

(High school Latin scholar here.) The image referenced in the beginning of the women lifting weights strongly reminds me of a Roman bath, especially given the medium of the image itself. Roman baths also had small gymnasiums. Women would use the public bath in the mornings and then the men would take over for the rest of the day. It seems to me that these clothing articles were more used for support while lifting weights in the gym prior to cleansing in the baths. Naked. That’s my two cents. (I should also note that I am by no means an expert in this field, as this was information learned in high school and am now well into my 30s so…yeah. Disclaimer and stuff.)

[@ragnkja]

I’ve also seen those referred to as athletic clothes, basically sport bras.

[@persiswynter6357]

I was thinking Minoan, myself.

[@Felice_Enellen]

Ha, the 101 caught me off guard! 😁 I wasn't expecting a post-apocalyptic reference, I think of you as a history & fantasy person! 🤯

[@bellablue5285]

Loving this, I've found during the last couple years that bra sizing is so fickle and inconsistent to the point of going without while at home/remote, the top portion looks like a wonderful substitution (and I'm all about hand sewing, so seeing this manageable without a machine is reassuring). Thank you!

[@mitzy183]

i wasnt sure about this vid at the start, but as you made your pattern and started the mock up i fell in love :D with that pattern and the knowledge to do literally ANYTHING to change it, the world could be your oyster for dresses :P im hoping to do some crazy mad scientist stuff with this like you did on circle day, cus i freaking loved the circle skirt thing and i would LIVE in them with a nice pair of leggings underneath :P

[@laurenragle5228]

These folks are studying the Lengberg bra and other finds and are creating a pattern line. If you'd like sizing input, there's a link in their description box. I am so excited to try the pattern AND try Morgan's tape method! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHa4fXSjmKaokK8

[@johannageisel5390]

^ THIS

[@lindamann2113]

My husband and I send our deepest condolences to you both and your family.prayers for all your family and friends God be with y'all in your time of sorrow

[@annaarwen4345]

I know theyre totally different garments but this bath dress reminds me of the summer dresses worn in Kenneth Branagh's A Much Ado About Nothing - in the opening scenes all the characters run into the open baths with their white linens on 😆. Im now wishing for warmer happy days

[@jillvasquez1010]

One of my all time favorite movies!

[@rachelmumford5025]

Omg the end!!! It really is so cute and so are you!

[@makingpixierose]

That looks really cute and comfy and I want one! 😍

[@MorganDonner]

Absolutely comfy! Both the first mock-up and the final result, very pleased with how comfortable they are

[@AlyInk]

Oh my gosh that vest and bowtie look is SO adorable on you!

[@NoiseDay]

You look so dang cute throughout this video! Rocking the hair. As I try to grow my hair out, I can't stand the bits around the neck and end up shaving too much off. Regrowing hair (if that's your goal) is an extreme exercise in patience.

[@raraavis7782]

Isn't it ever? Took me 1,5 years to go from pixie to chin length...because I just couldn't resist going for a 'tidying up' cut every 3-4 months. In my defense: I have to look somewhat presentable for work...but still. Sigh. Now it's all one length, but looks boring as all heck. Like a helmet. Trying desperately to stick it out till it's shoulder length (which I know suits me)...but man.

[@raraavis7782]

@@beautyonabarnbudget My brother likes to joke, that I look like Prince Valiant, so...😆 And yes, we're 80s kids, lol. If you're much younger, you might have to google that 😉 I've recently bought a pair of clip on (natural hair) bangs, btw. Highly recommend, if you ever get that itch again. Looks totally natural.

[@human-tk2fo]

Either that or you're like me and forget to get your hair cut for two or so years at a time XD

[@marthabenner6528]

To help with the shaping of the cup, you could take some cotton batting, (and lining for each side,) and quilt it into the shape of the bottom three quarters of your cup. My own wireless bra experiments have all momentarily failed, all except for that part. I'm trying again this summer. The padding also hides the darker sometimes pointy symmetrical twin centers of your bosom. Which you will definitely want to do if you, oh I don't know, walk into an air-conditioned room. Or you get rained on. Or decide to go swimming in something white. I'm going to use the tape and saran wrap method, with just my bra, wish me luck.

[@Tsuki04wolf]

I'm so into the look you have wearing the new drafted top, the beret and the jeans! So cute 😍

[@marissabulso6439]

This was so fascinating to watch! Your drafting talent and sewing resourcefulness (making a cord!!) leaves me in awe. And it’s just so very medieval to make cord out of what you have lying around.

[@BethAge95]

Was just thinking about making a fitted mediaeval under garment like this and had no idea where to start so this video was perfectly timed! Thank you!

[@k.issafrota5346]

I CANT HOLD IT ANYMORE I need to praise you with this hair, and those earrings, everything about you today is just ON POINT you look so so so so pretty, omg I'm having a stroke to look at you , you look gorgeous, Morgan!!!

[@VeretenoVids]

I laughed so hard when you tied the Noli mi tangere ribbon on! Always sly with the humor! (And I hope you put this in instagram or somewhere and tagged the researchers!)

[@Labradorite_Honu]

Who knew Morgan Donner thirst trap bath dress videos were exactly what I needed to cheer me while I recover from covid. Thank you Morgan.

[@fantasylovemagic]

Love your hair like that ! With your earrings it's so cute 🥰♥️

[@megangoggans1208]

I like how you've stayed true to yourself in that you love medieval art and clothing, so if it piques your fancy you go for recreating it. I love that about you and the videos that you create. I just thought that you should know.

[@polkadot8788]

I've got some modern soft bras that are very similar shape. I would probably take a pattern off those and add a skirt.

[@thetextilealchemist]

I love this so much! I made one of these in summer 2020 (just the top, not with the cute skirt) and loved the fit . . . and then put it down Somewhere, never to be seen again. Perhaps it's time to make another, long before it gets Hot And Gross again. Re: cording the lacing edge - This is the thing I do with my kirtles etc, and I really find it helps keep the edges from bunching, even without much supporting underneath. When I don't have good cord handy, I'll tightly braid twine into a stiff, slightly thicker cord, then stitch that in. Your solution was really clever also!

[@FranciscaPires]

that looks extremely comfortable and the top sounds like a great support garment for daily wear. and the final shower scene was hilarious 😂 thank you for brightening the day 😂✨

[@MissKikkiKat]

As a DMX (double mastectomy) that without the cups would be an amazing dress/underdress/pinafore!

[@AmaltheaVimes]

Wow! I've been looking at photos and videos this week about making a linen bra! I'm so tired of these things we can buy at the store... Ugh! Yours looks great! The question is, how to make it easy to get in and out of for daily use. The skirt is nice too, looks comfortable. Thank you!

[@pva7958]

Goodness, the final garment is soooo beautiful.

[@esm1817]

I really enjoyed this video! The dress looks nice and supportive without being annoying or fussy.

[@ssc4153]

So I have been researching medieval clothing and stumbled upon the Lengberg Brassiere. I am a large breasted woman and have such terrible trouble trying to find a good fitting bra without having to get an under wire. I plan on making this bra and if it's comfortable and fits well I am going to make many of them!

[@MoniqueAO888]

That makes a really beautiful summerdress !!! (In the 70ies I owned a ~1900 white slipdress which was perfect for summer)..."sprang" seems to be quite easy - lots of tutorials...the bikini-girls 1:04 look to me like ancient greek female athletics... 🙂

[@Little_Red_Riding_Hoodlum]

I love your ability to balance poise, beauty and humor. 🤭❤

[@BardBarian22]

Love the fallout reference. Also thanks so much for sharing your work. I'm hoping to test the lengberg groups test patterns.

[@therewillbecatswithgwenhwyfar]

Ohhhhh? An unintentional preview of a future video? Intriguing!

[@chibikate_]

Great video, as always. I really love your bow tie 😍

[@MorganDonner]

Thank you! It makes me feel like The Doctor and I love it.

[@samanthakessel7285]

@@MorganDonner bow ties are cool.

[@soundslikephiladelphia]

I love that you're so confident that you don't make a muslin mockup, you just go right to the linen!

[@ColorwaveCraftsCo]

I’ve been toying with the idea of making my own bras for some time now, since the majority of store bought bras are so uncomfortable, so I find myself wearing sports bras the majority of the time, but there are also drawbacks to this, because there are some garments that just don’t look right if you’re wearing a sports bra underneath. Definitely a concept I want to continue to explore.

[@MaleneMaare]

You just gave me an idea, I will try to explore. Sports bras are made of a stretchy fabric, so how about making the front bra in a firm woven fabric for the hold and then make the back from a stretchy jersey fabric in order to make it fit without the laces, and make it easier to wear.

[@anon_y_mousse]

Seeing you take a bath in that, I am so there for it. Shame about the extra footage being lost, those external hard drives are absolute garbage. Every single one I've had has died, I won't bother buying a spinning disk type ever again.

[@berkleypearl2363]

I really don’t want this to come across as weird, for context I’m both autistic and asexual, but my word. Morgan is so stunningly beautiful. I just find her so incredibly lovely and easy to look at. I’m not even jealous or anything I just think to myself “darn, that’s a beautiful lady” every time I see her

[@francislafaecreates4914]

As an asexual person, I can confirm. She is just breathtaking.

[@sydneymomma11]

I concur! She's effortlessly a 50's pinup girl, with a bit more modesty. It's a combination not many can pull off. It doesn't come across as sexy per se, more a classic beauty.

[@scouttyra]

Aesthetically rather than sexually? And I agree

[@wangofree]

As a heterosexual woman I know exactly what you mean. I'm always gazing at beautiful women in frank admiration, the way I'd admire a sunset or a lovely tree. Beauty is beauty and appreciating it doesn't have to be sexual.

[@samit2658]

Me too, & "yes"

[@adrianghandtchi1562]

I appreciate you mostly doing the mold on yourself because I have yet to make a dress form that is custom-made for my body, but it’s also good to see somebody because I’ll be doing the same.

[@sarahb5325]

It does look so feminine and cute! It looks a lot like a slip to me and I would definitely love a slip with lacing so it would still fit when my weight fluctuates.

[@DasSchnattchen]

The "Sprang" weaving wouldn't only make it sheer, but also elastic, since sprang creates a hamrock like net. very interesting!

[@elizabethsaltmarsh8306]

Go saran wrap and leftover packing tape! I used this method to draft my wonder woman tutu bodice and it worked really well. That said, I wish I had your video then because though I drew my style lines on it, it never occurred to me that I could cut it apart to make pattern pieces. Instead I pinned fabric into the seam lines and used those. Your method would probably have been easier :)

[@cherylwright3917]

Wow just wow! I love the way your mind works truly innovative. In a million years I would never think to use wrap and tape to (draft?) A pattern. Bravo Morgan. I so love what you do🤩😘

[@catysparks]

You are so amazingly creative! Thanks so much for this really great idea! I have a very full bust which has always been a challenge for me to fit to myself. Just lost a lot of weight, but it didn’t affect my bust. Somethings never change.