Morningstar | real knight fight with twohanded spiked mace

[@stephencardone]

The fighting when it goes to the ground is so raw and visceral, things like the head kick and the stabbing at armor slits give it a feeling of desperation I'm sure reflects the actual nature of combat historically. At the end of the day, one can't fight gracefully unless they intend to lose gracefully as well.

[@zweihander7309]

Ye I bet most 1v1 duels would have ended in 'grappling stabbing' even when factoring in blunt force hits, very gritty

[@spitalhelles3380]

Historically most of the times you would capitulate and get captured and eventually exchanged for a price.

[@grizzlyblackpowder1960]

​@@spitalhelles3380unless you got killed first. Not like there was a lack of knightly deaths, plenty of first hand accounts recall knights being killed, in battle and otherwise. In the case of France many duels between knights were only to satisfaction, which to the french meant to the death, and there are endless accounts of this.

[@grizzlyblackpowder1960]

​@@spitalhelles3380Germany also had judicial duels that were mostly fought to the death, because otherwise how could you tell who God truly favored, those were popular until the end of the renaissance.

[@grizzlyblackpowder1960]

​@@spitalhelles3380during the hundred years war, both mounted and foot knights died to the tune of thousands, though on the french side they mostly fell because of endless arrows hitting them directly in the face rather than some other knight.

[@ArtiOfficial]

I just can't help but laugh at how utterly confused someone would be if they were just strolling around a forest and saw two armed medieval knights aggresively bashing each other hahaha. Awesome video and great fight! :)

[@kuroshthegreat8073]

I would feel like id been teleported into Monty Python's Holy Grail.

[@ArtiOfficial]

@@kuroshthegreat8073 Hahaha totally :D imagine you're walking past them from a seemingly safe distance and you're like "surely they can't see me" and then they suddenly stop fighting, turn around and look at you... menacingly. I'd probably shit myself.

[@jayred2908]

​@@ArtiOfficialthats weird cause I think I'd get excited 🤣

[@ArtiOfficial]

@@jayred2908 It'd sure be exciting until they raise their weapons and take a step towards you haha.

[@Lurklen]

I'd immediately think I had time travelled, or been taken to another world, and be mildly disappointed it wasn't so (I was read a lot of portal fantasy when I was young, and it left a mark lol) before becoming pretty jazzed that I was getting to witness a cool knight fight.

[@cndl_lght]

David Attenborough: As we can see here, In the early spring, the majestic knight wonders about his territory, finding another male knight by happenstance; they are locked in a battle for territorial lines. With the summer fast approaching, the dominant knight will have access to fair maidens, mutton, and mead. A staple in the diet of a ferocious creature such as the knight. Let us observe their dance of war, as they clash against tempered steel and pure wrath.

[@dequitem]

Epic commentary!

[@13375HI74NDN347F337]

it's clearly autumn.

[@DUPPIXCONQUERER]

As someone who trains MMA, I loved the ground fighting. Super cool how the positions you got into are universal to all grappling arts, regardless of where in the world they came from.

[@crimsonfox87fluxule62]

It's almost like it's a natural part of biology and the natural world for intelligent creatures to take advantage of the biomechanics of their opponents in order to have an inherent upper hand.

[@Madvlad-h7q]

As someone who also trains MMA, I love this because it shows how effective these positions are in even armored Knight duels.

[@DisorderedArray]

I thought it was interesting how quickly they gave up on their primary weapons and moved to grappling and ground work with those bodkin daggers.

[@theclockman775]

@@DisorderedArraywell, pretty hard to use two handed weapons on the floor, yeah?

[@dimitristripakis7364]

What did you expect, a 69 ?

[@guilhemandre228]

God damn! That was amazing! I love the struggles at the end, trying to get in the slits of the armor with the dagger. It's always my favorite part. It feels so raw and desperate. Incredible photography as always!!

[@Hedgeknight420]

The sword dude was winning , til he was mercilessly kicked in the face and stabbed a bunch with the poniard 😢

[@Gunnar001]

I love how duels in movies are so epic and choreographed…but in reality they must have all looked goofy and clumsy like this.

[@Экзистенциальныйтоварищ]

Yeah, it looks cruel and filthy. Actually, i'd like to see this type of fight in historical movies more often. In "The king", for example, was shown something similar, but they took this filthy fight style too far.

[@cattleherder1912]

Surely you have to realize that these two are only doing this for fun. Knights back then were experts, some practiced daily their whole life since they were children. Its almost as if you are comparing larping airsofters to seal team six which is a little weird.

[@Gunnar001]

@@cattleherder1912 Obviously real knights back in the day would be far more skilled than these two. Even so, I don’t think it would take long for the duel to devolve into what we see here, even with expert fighters. It definitely wouldn’t look like some beautifully choreographed Hollywood fight scene. Real life just doesn’t work like that. Same for full scale battles. Just a big crowd of fully armored men with limited visibility bumping into and tripping over each other.

[@cattleherder1912]

@@Gunnar001 I digress, a duel is a perfect opportunity to utilize unorthodox techniques which are perhaps more stylish than effective. Besides their footwork and their overall technique would have been so pure and fluid that in comparison it might as well have been a hollywood choreographed fighting scene. Again, in comparison. As for field battles I also think we have a distorted picture in our minds of them. Lines and formations were held very tightly and only those who fell to the ground or had a chink in their armor would have been mortally wounded (knights). Trumpets and flags were used to issue orders. There was a lot of recorded battles where the two armies clashed and disengaged multiple times which over time led to piles of bodies stacking up in the center of the battlefield. Not really the mosh pits I think we imagine today in other words.

[@cattleherder1912]

​@@Gunnar001 I think many today have a very warped image of medieval warfare. In duels we would have seen a much more fluid movement pattern/footwork and way better and more deliberate techniques, especially when it comes to grappling which is when a knight is at his most vulnerable. These two look like the town drunks in comparison to actual knights. Field battles were very well coordinated tightly packed formations, not some mosh pit. Armies front lines clashed and disengaged several times leaving piles of bodies in the center, many were actually crushed to death. The front line in a formation would often time rotate to the back of their unit in order to get a rest so that the battle could continue for hours. Trumpets, drums and flags were used to allow the commander a way to communicate orders throughout the battlefield, again it was not some free for all that you seem to imagine.

[@WELLbethere]

When they started reaching for daggers after going down is when I felt like this was real. Not that the rest of the combat isn't great, there's just something so vivid about that part in particular.

[@dequitem]

That's why I love dagger fights.

[@SwordTune]

You have to get to that position first.

[@tunnel-stash]

The way the camera went out at the end was like a horror movie. It happened right when he got point kicked in the head and loss motion. It was surprisingly creepy. Like the knife fight in Saving Private Ryan.

[@dequitem]

Thanks for marking it for others!

[@crimsonfox87fluxule62]

Yeah, historically 50 60 lb of armor spread all around the body, there was a lot of weight behind that kick definitely a potential concussion especially since he couldn't even move. He was done for after that legitimate stun.

[@nathankuszewski4579]

That scene never fails to make me feel sick

[@slinkerdeer]

You dance the line between a real fight and a play fight with expertise. Respect for producing a sight one can imagine it may have looked for real, the primal desperation as you grapple on the floor to stop the gaps of your armor being attacked feels very real. I hope you never injury one another like this and a speedy recovery if you do

[@dequitem]

To late we already had injuries. Brocken rips, fingers and an open fracture at my elbow, where my bone sticked out 😬

[@VertigoRoses]

what happens in those cases where you get that injured?

[@renloyt]

what kind of dumbass question is that they go to the hospital@@VertigoRoses

[@alienhoward2270]

@@dequitemrough dude!

[@rolandsilver7742]

this is one of the best things ive seen on the internet in my life. this is so well done on all levels.

[@Abegilr_Dragonrider]

I like how sword guy just seems to say with their movements "No! Don't hit me with that!" and goes all in to not let mace guy hit them. Great video, highly enjoyable!

[@btbb1816]

intense. imagine just being one pair of combatants on the entire battlefield. Sensory overload. With everything going on around a person.

[@manfredconnor3194]

"Are these men real knights Walter?" "No, these men are crazy Donny"

[@dequitem]

😂

[@MedievalGenie]

I found it funny when I saw a comment describing this as "gruesome". Full armour like this is amazing and for all of those hits, you both still look pretty good (if somewhat tired).

[@АлександрПавлов-м3с]

I think they just do not know how to fight with this weapons. Or, maybe, try to save health and armor from damage, so they make some show of questionable quality.

[@illuminati955]

@@АлександрПавлов-м3с They are very well trained with these weapons. It's not a question of lack of knowledge - wearing such armour is exhausting, and yes while they are striking at a good amount of force they're not going full power they way they would in a duel to the death (or gruesome injury).

[@toiphamdp]

Wow how do you make sure that you are not injured, fighting like that? This is so gruesome and awesome at the same time!

[@IlllIIIlllIIlllI]

In such things you make sure that you are lightly injured

[@virtualvirtual2362]

reading the title didn't expect that you guys just went for it, it was really cool :D :D

[@ser-render-ser-vivor-ser-junn]

This may be the greatest channel on youtube ever, I've always dreamed of videos of two friends in armour just duking it out.

[@Floofian]

That thing looks scary

[@theblindbandit6533]

Got nervous when I saw the mace but you guys fight very safely was sure there’d be a crushed rib cage or skull from that beast glad to see you guys keeping it below the waist with the big bone crusher.

[@dequitem]

🤔 I didn't.

[@weefatpie]

Incredible video as always. Out out curiosity was there a concern that the spikes may have gotten caught or torn your opponents gambeson?

[@dequitem]

Reed the description and breath. We were concerned for the eyes!

[@eleethtahgra7182]

Imagine a group...say...a dozen of fully armored knight with greatsword fighting against bunch of lightly armored militias with short spears. No wonder knights dominate the medieval era for a long time.

[@edwardrichard2561]

A two handed flail would be nice to see. Very rarely seen but one of the best pole-arms.

[@dequitem]

I will make a video with a Flail soon.

[@LM-zi9te]

love the scenary ! I Wish to see one day these kind of realistic fights with knights wearing the 13th armor or 12th, probably the moves to hurt and defend were a bit different without this full Steel protection

[@dequitem]

Indeed.

[@башарал]

its weird to think about their surroundings and how otherwise peaceful it is. Birds chirping and wind blowing calmly as two men are fighting for their lives.

[@tgchan]

Those black screens were an amazing touch/ Pure nature sounds mixed with the fight are scary and beautiful at the same time.

[@Memento-_Mortemus]

Nice fight dude. excited for the next one

[@Gunsong1]

This vid gets even better with duel of fates in the background.

[@VICEWORLDTV]

¿Puede haber algo más épico que este canal? Que gran canal. Muchas felicidades por el contenido. Me encanta 😍. A seguir así 💪​

[@dequitem]

Thanks.

[@TrickyBixnatch1213]

This is what it’s like to be a lobster, I’d imagine

[@dequitem]

😂

[@slavplaysgames]

I cant start to imagine how insane and tough battles like this were at that time.fascinating

[@ukazuhira]

amazing fight, honestly didn’t go how i expected it to! great as always :)

[@user-uy1rg8td1v]

I wish Medieval Combat was more popular as a sport. I would rather watch this than any basketball game, even paying tickets to see it in real life.

[@Ilhotas]

It's amazing to see a video recovered from the medieval age

[@unocoltrane2804]

These videos remind me of things like rams or antelope fighting. Animal Planet: Medieval

[@PlagueTheReal]

I love the hugging

[@aamake547]

Good grappling. Red knight immediately got the underhook and was able to reverse the positions when taken down. I see you.

[@greenwave819]

excellent production, armor, and techniques!

[@JamrockHobo]

Great fight. I also enjoy the nature setting. Also it looks like the War Club in Chivalry 2 haha

[@ArtiOfficial]

Man, they had some pretty good cameras back in 1210!

[@dequitem]

1475

[@ArtiOfficial]

@@dequitem Still impressive!

[@dequitem]

@@ArtiOfficial 😂

[@reginaldcampos5762]

I'm commenting to boost the video in the algorithm so people can see your channel

[@dequitem]

Thanks.

[@johno5605]

the takedown from the clinch demonstrates that there was more technicality than simple beserker rage.

[@dequitem]

There is a fight analysis on my channel.

[@hamsnub]

that race for both of them trying to get their dagger first

[@pangopod2969]

Amazing ! Started watching recently but i love your videos and that one is my new favorite !

[@everestvirtue309]

Thank you Strength and Virtue

[@TriclopstheInfinite]

I can’t stop watching these videos

[@dequitem]

Please don't stop!

[@mariooooo.o3404]

Seems to me like wrestling is more important in an armored fight than actual weaponskill

[@dequitem]

Some level!

[@ArghastOfTheAlliance]

Absolutely fascinating. I wish movies showcased such realistic medieval warfare and fencing.

[@k3rc4]

I agree, real knight _doth_ fight with twohanded spiked mace! Good stuff!

[@anomalyp8584]

Real saving private ryan moment there at the end...brutal

[@tylerdelgregg7879]

I was sure red was going to win, then suddenly, it changed. Good fight.

[@mrman3196]

When it got to the groud it became twice as viscious😮😮😮... And for that Sir im subbed!

[@AndrewWeisMusic]

Guy on top looks like he's done some jiujitsu. Good side control.

[@mightyheadge9511]

There is something undoubtfully awesome mahout 2 guys duelling in the Scenic middle of nowhere

[@черепахаестклубничку]

Dude this is amazing! Im so glad to see some kind of proper armour fight, not just dumb beating each other as in HMB (don't have anything against them, it's obviously a lot of fan for them, but just not interesting for me)

[@hansolo-mx4xt]

and to all the HEMA nuts that go on about technique, and "edge binding." forget that crap, this is what combat between 2 people in heavy Armor would have been like.

[@user-vu7my6kd4g]

Finally some knights duel which looks not as dumb hitting in the armor but accurate/reasonable!

[@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique]

They really keeled each other, just caught at the right time ☝️

[@dequitem]

😅

[@englishrose9046]

Goodness! Why was this recommended to me!? That was scarily real. Is that what a real duel would be like? I hope the two gentlemen were ok after!!😳

[@dequitem]

We are both fine. It isn't show fight, but extra Safety preparations. Read more in the description.

[@englishrose9046]

​@@dequitem Thank you for the reassurance. It looked very real and the way you were stabbing each other at the end was scary!! It must be quite exciting.. and painful! It's good to see men still being men. Thank you for the video Sir Knight😊

[@WafflezDay]

Ah yes, the tranquil forest sounds of armor clanking.

[@crazycharzy]

thats just great man keep up with the good work

[@Yaxx5]

1:00 "why you little-"

[@aronnemcsik]

I'm so happy they they can safely hug. Wearing protection for hugging seems a bit weird to me but I'm not gonna judge.

[@kot0564]

Damn that looked real as hell, are those daggers real? I can only imagine how exhausting it would be to fight someone with all that armor on. It’s unbelievable that people use to fight each other all day like this.

[@dequitem]

Real steel but blunt.

[@pestrusiariopaezmengoso2868]

I love this channel.

[@concernedliberal4453]

I always thought a morningstar was a type of flail. Either way, beautiful

[@TheNamelessGamer27]

When the fighting goes to the ground was like watching a big cat take down an animal

[@mathewgurney2033]

Realistic, careful with those poiniards.

[@Beton507]

The is the weapon I see in my mind when someone mentions "makeshift weapons"

[@bugslayerprime7674]

Faaaaake! One of them blokes is wearing tennis shoes! XD Well done! Fun to watch.

[@dequitem]

😅

[@shireboundscribbles]

Knight fighting seems to be a prolongued version of the fight of the very lowest orders (thieves and the like), but rather than a quick knife fight, its wearing your opponent down until you can knife him through an armour gap.

[@leewseea]

absolute cinema

[@as2ds]

Thanks guys, that was awesome!

[@jaguare18]

Cant help but wonder... those stabs going from 12 to 5..... if they slide in the incorrect spot, even with padding under the armor... that shit can cause some serious damage..... holy smokes..

[@douglaspaitahs7144]

Também acho! Concerteza essas facadas alguma deve passar! Isso me parece muito real?

[@uppermoral]

Imagine walking in a Forest and you just see two medieval knights just bashing each other

[@MemphiStig]

Come at me with a pencil now, Wick!

[@bigbustershow3484]

I imagine someone walking there dog and seeing this thinking they’ve walked through a wormhole back to mediaeval times 😂

[@tiendrip-han6458]

Love your videos man.

[@andrewroberts7428]

sir sword did well to keep things close and negate the effectiveness of the mace

[@ellenj8896]

Back then, they had metal armor, while today we need faraday suits.

[@CapitalTeeth]

interesting how these fights almost always turn into wrestling matches with knives near the end.

[@OMIMreacts]

dude when i saw him pull up with the morning star I thought they will actually kill each other

[@gamundilorenzo8864]

whaoo... this is the real way..congrats, is dangerous.

[@manubishe]

"Hey you Do you why is it called a 'Morning Star'?"

[@dequitem]

The spikes make it look like a star.

[@danmaertens7872]

That was intense

[@ВадимЧеловек-н9в]

А когда фильмы про средневековые сражения снимают вы куда пропадаете? Очень крутой бой!!!

[@stda8215]

Драка двух консервных банок за полку повыше. п.с. очень хорошо изобразили

[@СергейОбодец-ш6п]

Unfair fight from the beginning. One with morning star HAS A GREAT advantage over one with a sword, in case both are using plated armor.

[@dequitem]

It's the exact opposite! There is a fight analysis on my channel.

[@avixka7751]

1:02 both fighters pulling their daggers at the same time lmao

[@thegoofygoblin2081]

I like looking at their shoes, because you can see they are wearing modern sneakers, and it's funny when compared to the medieval armor they wear.

[@dequitem]

It was a cold day and we had a big walk in armor from the cars. We dant wanna do that in historical shoes.

[@InqWiper]

So the mace may not have sucked if the spikes were of steel with hardened tips. The mace might also be better in line combat rather than in a duel. I imagine the mace will have much more effect if you attack in line to one of the sides, like in chess, rather than swing to the guy right in front who can see what you are doing. Very nice video, though! The sword looked almost useless until I read the description. Thanks!

[@dequitem]

You will love the fight analysis. I will upload it tomorrow.

[@christdiedforoursins1467]

Love the sound of the armour sure is a bit funny to watch but at the end im not sure now if one of the knights might of died .

[@dequitem]

Mayby both!

[@badacid8685]

KCD 2 footage 😊

[@sir_wesley86]

holy f did these guys agree to ACTUALLY fight to the death? nice work fellas. i cringed imagining the pain several times!

[@dequitem]

We don't kill or injure us.

[@heychimney007]

Imagine the sound of a thousand dudes doing this and screaming

[@Xaremathraas]

according to Chivalry 2 this is called a War Club!

[@ominousblackknight]

Seems the Morgenstern suffers from being long and slow, even though it's got mad range and fearsome striking power... intresting how you used it in the duels.

[@JZsBFF]

There's all kinds of "Goedendags" and it's always a compromise between range and kinetics. The pointy bits are probably more a matter of personal preference. Not sure that they were the better weapon against a fully armored knight. I think that a warhammer would have been more suited in such a case.

[@FroggyHopScotch30]

I didn’t realize just how accurate of a game half sword already is

[@carmelorussotto8706]

Splendido combattimento ⚔️💪🏼🛡️⚜️🤺❤‍🔥

[@MorteWulfe]

Lesson for the street: Half guard then use the rondel...

[@CoIdHeat]

Felt to me like the guy with the morning star was holding back.. right to the moment when they went to trying to stab each others with daggers like and things really escalated

[@dequitem]

Nop, the heavy morningstar was only slower, but I never hold back.

[@eliasbram3710]

well son, when two knights love each other, thats more or less what happens....