MORryde CRE3000 Upgrade/ Atlanta RV

[@mattharper588]

Time stamp 2:20 the wet bolts on the shackles should have the grease zerks facing to the inside so you can grease them without removing the tires

[@michaeljohn7467]

I like how how you showed us exactly the different suspensions, the old one n new one

[@Fudgieguys1969]

I just upgraded my suspension with the MORryde CRW3000 with the upgraded shackle kit. I was like you, I went to my local RV dealer where I got my trailer because I have had tremendous service with this local dealer. I am about to take a month on the road and wanted to have this done before I left. I have traveled twice last year when I first got the new TT and went to Colorado and had no issues, but the ride on some roads where rough. So I am confident with the installation of the MORryde CRW3000 upgrade will make my trip more comfortable for sure. I know on high end TT or 5th wheels the manufacture installs the MORryde CRE3000 suspension. I just don't understand why all manufactures don't do this. Yes I purchased the kit at Amazon because my service manager told me to do that due to their pricing on the parts was way over what I wanted to pay. The labor is what it is in the RV industry, but I am very pleased with the install.

[@ltcajh]

How many axles, and what was the grand total?

[@Markisuncfan]

really good vid. I am glad to see you put Goodyear Endurance tires on in place of the may pops chinese tires. Which ever TT I buy, the what I call chinesium tires will be off before I roll out of the dealer's lot. Safety first. I have witnessed way too many accidents in 20 yrs of being a trucker....retired now thankfully. I put the Endurances on my single axle bass boat earlier this yr after alot of people's talk about them. Much much better tires on my heavy bass boat.

[@WanderingWeekends]

Markisuncfan about 2500 miles on the GY’s now. Still very happy! Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@NCSUME1]

Great video and what a great store owner story. I too am an engineer and have thought about a similar change.

[@WanderingWeekends]

Mark is a good guy! Thanks for watching!

[@HighlanderMikeGolf]

Seems like a great upgrade. Thanks for the review!

[@jamesharrier6633]

I removed my wet shackles and put never fail bushings in

[@OOMAN]

I just put this on my 30' 5th wheel a couple months ago. Great upgrade! Also added about 1" of lift, which I was looking for.

[@Ultrafrozen]

With the 3" of travel on the CRE3000, do you think it will squat lower when hitting bumps? The reason I ask is my tires already hit the underside of the trailer floor and I'm afraid I'll lose clearance compared to stock.

[@OOMAN]

@@Ultrafrozen They have a guide on their website for minimum clearance measurements that they recommend you do before installing the CRE3000. If you are already hitting the bottom of your trailer, you may want to have your springs checked. They may be worn out and sagging, causing a loss of clearance. I can't believe that they would be rubbing on the bottom unless something is wrong/worn out. The CRE3000 added about an inch of lift, but the additional 3" of travel (+1.5" up and +1.5" down) is more than you gain with the lift. I would recommend taking it to a reputable trailer shop and have your springs, hangers, shackles, bushings, and any other suspension components inspected.

[@arizonahascactus9697]

Thats a bushing, btw.

[@sandpiperadventures9487]

I'm having this upgrade done right now. How do you like the upgrade now.

[@WanderingWeekends]

I've since moved to the Road Armor version but both a great.

[@ericball6652]

Just for a frame of reference to your installation time, I had 4 failing springs and CRE3000 equalizers replaced in 1 hour and 45 minutes at Thurston Spring Service in Richmond VA. I had my original HD Shackles, wet bolts and equalizers done 3 years ago at McCleod Spring and Chassis in Barre VT in 2 hours.

[@WanderingWeekends]

Eric Ball how many miles did you have on those springs? Thinking that’s my next step.

[@ericball6652]

@@WanderingWeekends 7 seasons and maybe 30-40k miles. I replaced the 2200 lb 4 leaf with 3200 lb 6 leaf spring packs. Fiver is about 2" higher now.

[@ericball6652]

www.survivalbased.com/survival-blog/4727/convert-your-pavement-queen-rv-into-a-mean-off-road-prepper-machine/

[@ericball6652]

BTW, my old springs had gone flat and tires were hitting the undercarriage. They were way past their shelf life. Had I known, I would have replaced them and the axles with heavier ones after 3 or 4 years. The originals were not adequate for the GVWR and most are not. RVs are built for weekenders.

[@ericball6652]

I enjoyed your video and included a link in my reply below to a total suspension upgrade blog. While you got a fair deal on your installation, I've found that spring shops that fix working trucks and trailers to be much better and more reasonable than RV shops that cater to us "rich" folks (I wish) who are enjoying luxurious vacations. Atlanta RV seems to be an exception.

[@WanderingWeekends]

Eric Ball I agree. Trailer shops are a good option sometimes. I was quoted over 2x what I paid these guys at another RV shop nearby. Certainly shop around.

[@Jobratedman]

in the video where you show the partially completed install, it shows the wet bolts (with the zerks) facing outward. i don't think that would work, as you need to grease the zerks and it would be difficult to do, with the tires mounted. Shouldn't the zerks be installed on the inside?

[@WanderingWeekends]

David Fenner Great observation! They corrected that once they realized exactly what you just mentioned. Thank you for bringing that up. Hopefully someone will see your comment and be a little better educated. Sincerely appreciated.

[@Fudgieguys1969]

On my trailer I have enough distance between the axles that I have no issues with the zerks facing outwards. Yes I did mention that to the installer and he wanted to the the rear facing, but it was fine on my trailer.

[@cisco1dog]

Use 90 degree zerks.

[@JohnSmith-lw2bm]

I did this too on my 40’ toyhauler 5th wheel. So worth it. Why is this not standard from factory I do not know.

[@WanderingWeekends]

if we ever switch rigs it will be the first thing we add. Some manufacturers offer the upgrade. Just like everything else cost vs customer willingness to pay ratio may or may not warrant it for other manufacturers.

[@robzazueta5408]

I believe that 2021 Grand Design trailers are coming with the Morryde suspension upgrades.

[@gregebel3842]

I have the 2800BH too and would love to get this done to mine. If I lived in Atlanta I would go to this shop.

[@glennwingfield8681]

Our trailer came with the 3000. Was installing the heavy duty wet bolt kit and found one 3000 cracked. The trailer is 1 year old. Ugh

[@armstronglance]

Thanks for posting this video! We have an Imagine and live near Atlanta. So I’ll be calling your man Mark tomorrow! Curious what the cost will be. 😬

[@WanderingWeekends]

Tell them I sent ya! I think they will be very fair...

[@armstronglance]

When he sees all the Imagines coming his way, he'll probably figure that @@WanderingWeekends guy had something to do with it.

[@jeffhubert7012]

Great video, thank you! Do you know what the maintenance/grease intervals are for those wet bolts?

[@WanderingWeekends]

I can't remember off hand. I believe 5k miles. Let me get back with you on that one.

[@michaelshepard9409]

Why don’t YOU!! Do the job???easy job…put my install in a day..

[@WanderingWeekends]

I don’t have an appropriately sized Jack nor the number of Jack stands needed. Thanks

[@jrandyoutdoors]

Very nice my friend!

[@asobouyoca]

Hello and thank you for these videos. What is the length of the wheelbase? Is it 33" or 35"? I want to buy and install it?

[@WanderingWeekends]

the correct part is linked in the description box :-)

[@jaypuck6912]

Great video. In one of the shots, it appeared the axle was no longer in the right place on the leaf. Did they have to reposition the axle? That would certainly cause me to not want to do this myself.

[@WanderingWeekends]

J P great observation. I know they had both axles supported and would have to make minor adjustments to re-align the bolts when installing. I certainly don’t regret having these guys do the work. Even for them it took around 4 hours.

[@greg9323]

I have the same setup but now I'm thinking I might not be able to do this myself. The installation looks straightforward but not sure what you are referring regarding repositioning the axle.

[@WanderingWeekends]

Greg H basically the axle needs to be completely free because you’re also replacing the shackles. These guys floated the axle on the jacks. I simply dont have that many jacks and jack stands (or jack stands large enough) for this install.

[@cullinan18]

Are you still happy with the Cre3000 and wet bolts? MorRyde is going to be at the Midwest GD rally next month.

[@WanderingWeekends]

cullinan18 no issues with it. That said Lippert Components is doing a complete chassis upgrade for us in a few weeks. Very excited about that. Stay tuned!

[@IndianaFr0g]

Any 1 year updates on the improvements, or lack thereof?

[@WanderingWeekends]

Still happy. That said Lippert Components will be showcasing a huge upgrade to our suspension soon. It may be worth the wait.

[@5194553739]

Hi I would like to put this on my Grand Design but I was told it could raise my trailer up by 3 inches. Then I would need to adjust my hitch and sway bars. Is that true

[@WanderingWeekends]

No, this upgrade doesn't raise the height at all.

[@wayneshufelt3393]

Enjoyed your vlog, but I was wondering if this would fit my trave; trailer. I have a Forest River 2018 surveyor and I would really like to replace what \i have. The factory setup is similar to yours. I wanted to do this on another trailer we had but MORryde wasn't making them to fit that particular trailer. I suppose I should just call my dealer service department. Any thoughts?

[@WanderingWeekends]

Wayne Shufelt I would contact MORryde first. They make a few different sizes. Let us know what you find!

[@kenreynolds1092]

Obviously you haven't been oiling those sleeves like you're supposed to why they wore out so quick.

[@glennwingfield8681]

OEM are not wet bolts. So you can’t grease them.

[@kenreynolds1092]

@@glennwingfield8681 the sleeves inside the spring is supposed to be oiled from time to time. Used motor oil is good for it.

[@jeffdillon8540]

What was your tire to wheel well clearance before the install? Morryde calls for 3" clearance to use their CRE3000, My Grand Design 2400BH only has 2 1/4".

[@WanderingWeekends]

Great question... so great that I don't have the answer. I can say we're well over 1000 miles in and no issues whatsoever. I would do it again in a heartbeat. Tons of folks in the Imagine Owners Facebook page also love the upgrade. Many have 10x the miles we do on the setup. Give Morryde a call. I am sure they've encountered the 2400BH a few times. Thanks for the question, I will now be measuring the next time i see the trailer, haha!

[@jeffdillon8540]

@@WanderingWeekends Thanks for the reply and the vid. I did call them and they don't keep model data. Just gave me their sizing sheet. I'm spot on except that dim. Then there is the whole other "poor/bad springs" topic to consider... Thanks again.

[@OOMAN]

Sorry for the late reply. I have plenty of wheel well clearance since I "flipped" the axles and got 6" of lift. What you're going to have to do is see how much clearance you have at full upward suspension travel, then add an inch for the lift the CRE3000 gives you and subtract 1.5" for the additional travel it gives you. That's going to leave you with 1/2" less clearance than you currently have. If you're close already, I would check with a trailer shop to see if they can add a leaf spring to lift it up, or do some other sort of lift to give you a bit more clearance before installing something like this.

[@jasonholbert6529]

Now it has been one year plus do you still like these. Was it a good investment? Can you really tell a difference is my biggest question.

[@WanderingWeekends]

Jason Holbert Absolutely. If we were to buy a new trailer today this would be the first modification I’d do.

[@jasonholbert6529]

Wandering Weekends awesome thank you.

[@anthonyg5055]

Why did you get the 3000 instead of the 4000? I’m looking at Have this done on my Jayco JayFight 6,200 to 9,200 max Load. Should I spend more for the 4000?

[@WanderingWeekends]

Hi Anthony, sorry for the delayed response. We have been out of the country. You'll be good with the 3000!

[@miketheboatguy]

Imagine uses poster paint on the frames they use. They don’t bother to balance the China bomb tires they use. Just sayin

[@glennwingfield8681]

And they’re plastic.

[@davidinsocal3032]

Nice video! Thinking of replacing ours, with about 3k miles on the new trailer with the stock/cheap suspension with wet bolts. Any idea how long the rubber bushings will last in the center hangers? Safe travels!

[@WanderingWeekends]

I haven't heard of anyone wearing them out yet. Morryde does have a schematic on when to replace the rubber bushing so I know they'll wear with time but it'll be 10's of thousands miles and then it'll just be a bushing replacement, not the entire setup. Lemme know if you hear a mileage estimate. Would be great info to have.

[@davidinsocal3032]

@@WanderingWeekends Here's the response I got from Ashley(awesome rep) at Morryde Customer Service about the rubber bushing, and there is also a crossmember brace available for the CRE3000 series as well..."Thank you for your inquiry. The rubber shear spring on the inside of the equalize is not replaceable. The whole equalizer would need to be replaced if something were to happen. The springs last anywhere from 7-15 years. Yes, there is a X-Factor crossmember available for the CRE3000 system. The part number is UO21-003. That is if you do not have a Correct Track Hanger system on the end of your frame hangers. That is an alignment system identified by an octagon-shaped piece. I have attached a picture of what that looks like. I have also attached the CRE3000 qualification guide in case you have not reviewed this. Below are how to take your wheelbase measurement and part numbers. You can purchase the CRE3000 and crossmember(s) from your local RV dealer. Let me know if you have any questions."

[@WanderingWeekends]

Thank you for including this info!

[@potter3173]

Did this upgrade increase the height of the camper at all? In my case I'm hoping that it does, I need to get the axles further away from the frame, thank you

[@WanderingWeekends]

Adam Stiver no, same height. Great question. Thanks for watching.

[@Fudgieguys1969]

@@WanderingWeekends Mine raised about 3 inches from the ground. The entry steps gave that away first I lowered the entry steps. It is ok, plenty of wheel clearance.

[@ChannelZeroOne]

This is a 3 hour job at most. Tuesday to Friday. LMAO. At least the bushing part was cheap.

[@WanderingWeekends]

Channel Zero One 3 hours... that’s what they charged for labor. Happy camping.

[@ChannelZeroOne]

@@WanderingWeekends At least they were honest about the actual work time. These days you never know.

[@matttcox71Tube]

Can you verify which CRE/3000 you bought for your 2800BH? The 33" or the 35"? Thanks!

[@WanderingWeekends]

UnlimitedMatt 35!

[@Fudgieguys1969]

Measure between the center of the exiles to be sure. I measured mine the center of the wheel hubs. I measured three times to be sure.

[@perrygienger1304]

I love your trailer. Is it a 2800BH? I have one also. I plan on doing this very upgrade and love your video. Thanks, keep up the good work.

[@WanderingWeekends]

Perry Gienger it is a 2800! Thanks so much for watching and the kind words.

[@jimbuckley4986]

Appreciate the coverage and video. For the total job, parts and labor, about how much did it run so I can get a general idea how much to set aside for my budget?

[@WanderingWeekends]

Hi Jim! Parts can be found in the links above (make sure to know your wheel base measurement). My total out the door cost here for labor was $595 which included balancing all 4 tires. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@WanderingWeekends]

Just for comparison I was quoted nearly $1100 for the same job elsewhere...

[@JW-ju9ru]

I had a bad experience with the Moryde. It’s still on my trailer, rides horrible. It looks as though yours is installed correctly. Mine is not so much.

[@WanderingWeekends]

Josh Williams you’re the first person I’ve heard say that. We love ours.

[@JW-ju9ru]

Wandering Weekends My spring hangers had to be moved out to 59’ . Then my leaf springs were too short so we put longer ones on. But they are too long and my shackles are standing straight up . Plus I struggle to get 4 links on the weight distribution and my steering is still light on my f250. I think because the cre3000 lifted my trailer by a few inches I need to move my hitch up one notch . I had mine done at Cliff’s Welding in Phoenix AZ. I may look into this shop ☝🏼 maybe they can help

[@WanderingWeekends]

Josh Williams what trailer did you put it on? The 3000 didn’t raise my trailer height at all. I wonder if it was installed correctly?

[@WanderingWeekends]

Ok just saw your edited post. Head over to our Facebook page and send some pics. Link to our FB is in the description box.

[@stephenpowstinger733]

Yes, the factory setup looks flimsy and likely to cause trouble. Seems like they would at least offer an optional upgrade. You can't underestimate highway safety, right? Leaf springs themselves go back to horse-and-buggy days. That's why I admire Ram trucks for going to coil springs. (Saw your Imagine recap vid today - very nice and nice family).

[@WanderingWeekends]

Thanks for the kind words and thank you for engaging with the channel. Every comment is one more tidbit of information for the next viewer. It's sincerely appreciated!

[@Fudgieguys1969]

Stephen: Yep 2018 RAM 2500 6.4 HEMI two wheel drive. TT is 2018 Keystone Outback 266RB.

[@pensacola07]

Do you have wide stance axels on your trailer, I have a coachman 248RBS with wide stance axels and I'm wanting to put the Mor/ryde systems on my TT

[@WanderingWeekends]

No, we don't have the wide stance setup...