Most Common Mod 2 Mistakes [3. Passing parked vehicles & hazards on both sides]

[@leaf1829]

Brilliant information!!!! I didn't realize there was so much involved in passing parked cars. Sounds simple, but it isn't. Thanks for sharing.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@leaf1829 haha, it's a bit more complicated than passing them in a car, simply because we don't have any safety bubble around us. Thanks for the comment 😊

[@Jabular1]

I passed my A1 mod 2 today with only one minor. Your vids have helped me a lot as I don't drive and I was doing all the mod 1/ mod 2 practise without an instructor. The point about moving back over to the left side when a junction was coming up on your right was really helpful on my test today, I had to do it quite often this morning.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Well done. I'm really pleased for you, thanks for letting me know. Enjoy taking those L plates off 😊

[@martinarmer240]

Thanks Leanna. Really helpful, as usual.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

You're welcome 😊

[@calistusfernandez8906]

Excellent clips for managing hazards for riders! Every mistake is spotted and dealt with! Every rider should pay attention to this advice to become better riders!

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Thank you 😊

[@denistibbs8677]

Many thanks for your great videos.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

You're welcome. Thanks for the comment 😊

[@Therealchrist]

This is a fantastic video! Test in a couple of weeks and I wasn't quite sure if that lifesaver when passing parked cars was required. Thanks!

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

You're welcome. Good luck with your test 😊

[@TheD7035]

Great video! I’ve completed several advanced m/c courses and although I don’t have a m/c just now (thinking about getting another in my 70th year.) I’m encouraging a friend (similar age) retake his DAS “A” licence -they lost their original due to a DVLA records faux Paux in the 80’s! I note Bike Safe and the ROSPA /IAM Advanced training is not that far removed from the complete CBT, Theory MOD 1 and MOD 2 in that it recaps and builds on the Direct Access Scheme. You’re video’s are really helpful and encouraging also getting the relevant points across in an easygoing style. Thank you, much appreciated.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Thank you for your kind comments. We've trained (or should I say "re-trained") a number of poeple in the same boat as your friend, very unfortunate, but sometimes a good refresher of those skills. Thanks again 😊

[@spinaway]

Excellent advice, Thanks Lianna.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

You're welcome, and thank you 😊

[@Grahamvfr]

The end of an advisory speed limit was always a issue for my pupils, as it was never specific, luckily our local examiners were sensible about them..... "less space, less pace" was a favourite ditty of mine. Cheers Leanna.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Oooh I like that 😊 Thanks Graham.

[@formamentispf5137]

Leanna, help us a lot. Thank you very much! You are a great teacher

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

You're welcome 😊 Thank you 👍

[@reedebrown6006]

Love the fact that you have all the details in text as well . I feel the need for a revision note book coming on😱

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Haha that's an idea! Thanks for the feedback 😊

[@Craigravon]

Now that was a pass with no faults 😁 you have a cool smooth style of riding, looks like you could ride all day with no pain and stress. Awesome 👌 keep rockin ✌️leanna👍👍

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Ha thanks Craig 😊

[@ccrDan]

I have found your videos truly helpful, i have a great instructor but these videos are helping to solidify my learning on the road. I have my MOD2 tomorrow and all your videos are getting watched several times today. Thanks for putting all this together. Great work 😎

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Thanks, I'm glad you're finding them useful. Good luck 😊

[@ccrDan]

@@motorcyclelessonsuk 1hr and 20 before the test now, feeling good. Thanks again for the great content 😎🏍

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@ccrDan aaaaaaaaand? 😂

[@ccrDan]

It was a pass, just waiting on delivery of my bike. Thanks again for the great content. It was a REAL help 😎

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@ccrDan hurray, well done. Enjoy your bike when it arrives and stay safe. You're welcome 😊

[@tompayne7661]

Thank you so much for making these vids!

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

You're welcome 😊 Thanks for your comments.

[@FlyingFun.]

As a fairly experienced rider looking to get back into bikes after a 20 year break its really helpful to watch this video to remind me of the strategies needed for safe riding. I only wish i had this sort of help at the start of my motorcycling adventures, back then with my car licence i just jumped onto a honda h100 and mixed it up with the traffic withoit even knowing how to ride the bike, cut up by a lorry on first outing andlots of damage to me and my bike which very nearly stopped me riding, it was only because i had no other choice at the time but to commute every day on it to work that i carried on but i still took too many risks looking back and omly by the grace of god am i still here today. Others werent so lucky......

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Thanks for the comment. Yes, it was very different back in those days wasn't it 😬?

[@paullee6663]

I think it's a good job I passed my test when I did...🙂Great info for anyone going through it now, especially explaining why you are doing it and your thinking. I thought our roads were bad, but Nottingham's pot holed roads look a nightmare.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Thank you, yes it's a shame the roads are in such a state. But it all adds to the forward planning part of riding 😉. Thanks for your comments 😊

[@Infiniti25]

No better up here in South Yorkshire and I saw just as bad if not worse travelling through Hull out towards relatives in Burstwick. I’m sure they will be ruined again as soon as the ice/snow return

[@amirashoori4197]

your videos are so amazing. thank you.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

You're welcome. I'm glad you like them 😊

[@amirashoori4197]

@@motorcyclelessonsuk Would you consider doing a Q and A video with questions from your viewers? For example i saw in one of your videos you told your student to pull in the clutch all the way otherwise it would damage the clutch (i assume). but i saw in other youtube videos that we dont need to pull the clutch all the way in. Which is it? Thank you very much

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@amirashoori4197 hi, yes I often do uploads based on what has been requested. The reason I say to pull the clutch all the way in is because not all bikes have the same biting point and it is more likely for more inexperienced riders to mistime their gear changes if they don't pull the clutch all the way in, which is not good for the gearbox. "Clutch in" is also a safety phrase we use in case a student lets the clutch out too far too soon when pulling away, so it's good for them to know that when we say "clutch in", it comes all the way in to save them from ending up somewhere they didn't intend to. I hope that helps 😊

[@ja89kraft]

Thanks a lot for the valuable information 🙏 wish you all the best

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

You're welcome 😊

[@kgba17580]

147 likes 🤔 and as usually great instructions to understand at all levels i think 😇 Stay safe and stay healthy Leanna Kev

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Haha yes, this one was surprisingly popular! Thanks Kev 😊

[@kgba17580]

your welcome Leanna 😁

[@DBTF1116]

I’m doing my DAS next year getting my theory done in January and hopefully my DAS at the end of February can’t wait I’m 34 now so left it abit late in life but always wanted to do it

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

34 isn't very late at all. I'm sure you'll love it 😊

[@DBTF1116]

@motorcyclelessonsukI’ve always loved my bikes did my cbt at 18 rode for a few years and done a fair bit of motocross so got a fair bit of riding experience

[@MisterD90x]

1:01 my guy failed me for that situation there, said i should not have gone as the car was coming towards on there side with little space... probably double or triple the space in that clip =((((( had lots of space and i was not going fast either i reduced my speed

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Hmmm. Sounds like you're saying you shouldn't have failed. It's very unusual, and unlikely that an examiner would fail you if the situation was not unsafe. Sadly, I suspect your and his interpretation of the situation varied. It's very common for students to think they have reduced their speed enough when actually they need to reduce it significantly, not just a little, or, wait for the car to pass by. Good luck next time 😊

[@MisterD90x]

@motorcyclelessonsuk Of course, was a bit frustrated, I thought I had dropped enough speed in a safe manner, have the truck plenty of room, his experience far far far outweighs anything I've done, I should have asked him what I should have done after the ride was over :( nevermind I live and learn

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@MisterD90x in the heat of the moment, under test conditions, it can be tricky. We often say the test is a reflection of your performance on the day, not your ability. Nerves can have such a negative impact. At least second time around you know what to expect and hopefully will feel more settled from the outset. Best of luck 😊

[@MisterD90x]

@motorcyclelessonsuk Thanks, your videos have helped a lot during this, things are explained far better too in these :)

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@MisterD90x thank you. I'm glad you've found them useful. Have you retaken your test yet? Best of luck if not.

[@raymondsmith7665]

Great video

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Thank you 😊

[@brettlha]

Another brilliant video, thanks so much. It seems logical to do a lifesaver before moving out to pass parked cars, but I have also been told not to do too many lifesavers, as each one takes you away from the road in front, and if you have been checking mirrors frequently, the you already know what is behind you, and so a lifesaver is not needed. Another point, if there do not seem to be children around, would you get a minor fault for slowing down to an advisory 20 MPH? I think I would rather slow to 20 in every case, rather than take the risk of a fault.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. OK, so there are some lifesavers that are compulsory at DAS level and other ones that aren't. When you get to advanced level, mirrors can supercede some of the lifesavers BUT at DAS level the new rider is not considered experienced enough to just use mirrors when changing significantly position. You're right that you shouldn't be doing unnecessary lifesavers. They should be necessary and not done because you think the examiner wants to see them: do them because you want to check it is safe to move. If you were doing 20mph in an advisory area when it was not busy and you were holding up traffic from behind you would get a fault and could fail if the vehicle immediately behind you is tailgating and showing signs of impatience. You should only be doing the advisory speed limits when the area is busy. I hope that helps 😊

[@05gt99]

Thanks for that Leanna. I am a bit confused about lifesavers when moving about on my side of the road from position 1, 2 and 3 in general riding to move away from a hazard say a pot hole or car edging out of a junction. I think what I am asking is in the more subtle situations / smaller position movements when are lifesavers required and where is the balance between too many and not enough.?

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Hello, good question. I tend to say "if you are significantly moving position" then you need to check. A change of lanes and coming around parked cars are good examples of when we should be doing them at DAS level. Going around a speed bump may not be such a big change of position so mirrors might be acceptable but it depends on how wide you go and where you were in the first place. Hope that helps 😊

[@05gt99]

Thanks Leanna, ‘significantly moving position’ is a helpful way of thinking about it whilst taking into consideration the situation at the time.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@05gt99 you're welcome 😊

[@axleg1254]

Hi there, thanks again very comprehensive & a lot to take on. What is the squirrel TOOl?

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Did you spot the squirrel?!

[@malcolm8564]

Could point out that caution regarding side roads on the right is because a number of people turning left fail to check both directions and only check to their right thinking there won't be anybody coming along from their left on that side of the road.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Mentioned at 2:20. Watch again 😊

[@malcolm8564]

​@@motorcyclelessonsuk sorry, I missed that.

[@MegaMaxymoo]

Why did the Tesla have priority? Informative channel, Thanks!

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Hello, thanks for the question. The Tesla had priority because the parked cars were on my side of the road, so I should give way to the oncoming traffic as their way ahead is not restricted by the parked vehicles. I hope that helps 😊

[@MegaMaxymoo]

@@motorcyclelessonsuk Thank you, Is that legislation or an unwritten rule?

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

​@@MegaMaxymooin the Highway code, rule 163 states we should "give way to oncoming vehicles before passing parked vehicles or other obstructions on your side of the road". It is a "should" not a "must" therefore it is advisory, and not backed up by legislation. However it could be taken into account when determining blame if you did not give way and we're involved in an incident. I hope this helps. Thanks 😊

[@MegaMaxymoo]

@@motorcyclelessonsuk Much appreciated!

[@steve00alt70]

I'm learning on a 650 180kg instructors bike its not easy controlling that weight coming from a 140kg small bike. Is it an automatic fail a car drivers pulls out on you at a junction? Provided that you did the steps to avoid it? Or if u emergency braked when they do pull out?

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Hello, in short, no it's not an automatic fail. If a car pulls out on you and you deal with it appropriately, you would not even get a fault for it, as it is not your fault. It depends on how you react, and whether your actions keep you safe or place you in any other danger at the time. Thanks for asking 😊

[@Kopitebarnes]

when on a dual carriageway and switching lanes, do you indicate or just do a lifesaver/ observations

[@t.c6933]

Can you tell me please with video recording are you using? Very good quality you got 😊

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@t.c6933 GoPro Hero8 for video, and just a Drift Ghost XL Pro with a Rode lavalier microphone for sound on this one. Thanks 😊

[@09jtip]

Thanks Leanne for another amazing video. I've learnt so much from you! I'd like to ask, what happens if there are two lanes on each side, but parked cars in your (left) lane? If there are cars in the right lane, should I indicate before getting to the parked car to 'ask' permission to move to the right lane? The cars in the right lane might slow down to let me in.

[@09jtip]

Also, assuming the lane is clear for you to move into, would you still indicate right and then left to change lanes if there are junctions around? Or would that be misleading?

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Hi, sorry it's taken a while to reply. For passing parked vehicles I wouldn't indicate to move due to possibility of junctions around. However if you are actually changing lanes and there is other traffic about then an indicator to change lanes is helpful. Try not to indicate until it is safe to move, that way you remove the possibility of other traffic changing their speed or direction due to your indicator. It also removes the awkward moment of "are they going to change lanes in front of me, or after I've passed them" from the point of view of the other drivers. Hope that's helpful 😊

[@deusexmachinawl]

Hello and thank you. I know this is a bit pedantic maybe, but when going on the other side of the road, we mentioned move in at junctions, and I totally get that, but what about driveways, as cars can also come in from driveways and head on to us. Why are we considering them as different? Thank you so much

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Hi, in short, because cars are more likely to come up to junctions than driveways due to the volume of traffic using them. Yes, be mindful of driveway entrances but they are not treated the same as actual junctions. Thanks 😊

[@Pops-007]

Drivers are very impatient these days, great training video 👍🏼

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Agreed. It seems to be getting worse as time goes on 😔. Thank you 😊

[@deusexmachinawl]

Also, second Q. If we are riding on a road that has got 2 lanes each direction, when do I need to use the signal? Is changing lane a reason for indicating with a signal? Because there could still be junctions near by, but my understanding is that I should signal the change in lane. In case I am correct how is this different from moving out on the other lane to avoid an obstacle? Thank you! I am close to m2 exam…

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Signal to change lanes when it will benefit any other road user in the vicinity. If you are close to a junction, either choose to to indicate, or, give a short one or two flash of thr indicator just prior to changing lane and then cancel immediately. Thanks 😊

[@TomChiang-r6j]

I did everything said in the video and still failed just yesterday because I 'swerved' into a large gap at low speed after seeing incoming traffic. I was told I should do it gently and it was a serious fault. I'm currently very confused and I'm not sure if this video would help me anymore as I have revised this video multiple times in the past before taking the test.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@TomChiang-r6j oh dear. 'Swerving' or changing direction quickly at any speed can surprise your tyre, reducing grip and potentially control of the vehicle. I suspect the examiner is encouraging you to be smooth for your own safety. Changes of position should be smooth, planned and not sudden. Make it look planned and make it feel smooth by looking further up the road and anticipating the need to move in earlier. That's the best advice I can give.

[@TomChiang-r6j]

@@motorcyclelessonsuk After some thoughts about it, I believe I made the swerve due to the previous advice that the examiner gave when I failed the 1st mod 2 test. The problem was that I was sticking too close to the parked cars at the speed limit of 20mph. His advice was to go as wide as possible and suggested some of your advice from the video, which is to go into the opposite lane. However, from this 2nd mod 2 test route, it is unfortunately impossible to do this since: 1. Too many parked cars combined with hills and corners, causing too many blind spots. 2. High level of incoming and ongoing traffic. 3. Junctions everywhere This could mean I swerved because I did not see or overreact to the incoming traffic. My only solution for this is to get close to the parked cars and gently do 10-15mph. I'm not sure if there is anything you can advise on this.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@TomChiang-r6j yes, closer to the parked cars and slower. Possibly even slower than the speeds you're suggesting. The smaller the gap, the less speed. Always anticipate there may be something coming around blind bends and put yourself in the safest position before it happens, not when. 👍🏻

[@Se_la_vie]

Can u stand up on rhe test? I ride a supermot and stand about half the time

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

No it's not recommended for road riding on the test. Thanks 😊

[@F3udF1st]

What's a "lifesaver"?

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

A look over your shoulder in the direction you wish to move or where there may be danger coming from. It's a movement of chin to shoulder to extend the peripheral vision into the blind spot not covered by the mirrors, not a full look behind you (no owl impressions needed!). Thanks.

[@Steve-wx9gl]

I'm surprised you didn't indicate when you passed the bus showing the blue car driver your intentions

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

General advice for passing stationary vehicles, when riding a motorcycle, is not to indicate, unless actually turning. The danger with indicating when passing stationary vehicles is that this could be misunderstood as an intention to turn. In a car we may indicate, because it is unclear whether we have joined a queue of parked vehicles for instance, however on a bike, we are unlikely to sit behind a stationary vehicle, so the traffic around should be able to anticipate we will be moving out, as evidenced by the lifesaver to do so. We don't want to give misinformation that could cause another vehicle to turn across us or pull out on us if there is a junction in the vicinity, or they intend to turn prior to us passing them. They could perceive the indicator as intention to turn, slowing down for the move past the vehicle as further evidence and then move across us. Thanks 😊

[@Steve-wx9gl]

Thanks for your reply for me personally I would never rely on another drivers anticipation.

[@PO-vu2em]

less room...... less zoom

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@PO-vu2em I like that 😂

[@neilgill2269]

The tesla situation,put you in an awkward position If the car driver was bloody minded, and charged through, you would have been blamed,and failed your test? I had a situation ,like that,when I was teaching a young girl to drive,the other car full of yobs,rammed us,police said let the insurance sort it,typical, YOU Can RIDE & DRIVE by the book, but when you come up against a scumbag!the book gets closed.

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Can you give me a time code? I had a quick look through but can't find the moment you're referring to 🤔😬

[@quackquacksable]

Mod 2 is a pointless money maker

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

What would you suggest is a better alternative? 🤔

[@quackquacksable]

@@motorcyclelessonsuk go straight to a2 or at least something more testing and thorough, for me mod 1 and mod 2 was just another dragged out cbt but less enjoyable since I've been riding on my own for quite sometime now so I'm not coming away feeling like I've learnt or gained anything besides a few minimal a1 perks which might aswell be nothing tbh all in all spending £100 for someone to check I'm riding ok for an hour is daft. I get the cbt n the theory wich I enjoyed just hated the mod 1 n 2

[@quackquacksable]

Secondly the usual place I went for tests etc was great but sadly it shut down so I went to the big DVSA centre were honestly I didn't even think the instructors liked riding, they looked like robots who hated there jobs 🤷‍♂️

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@quackquacksable it's a shame that was your experience. What brings you to my channel?

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

@@quackquacksable it sounds to me as though you drew the short straw with your training school. The purpose of motorcycle training for modules 1 & 2 is not just to pass the test. As you've identified, it should be thorough and go beyond test requirements to ensure riders are set up with the skills and knowledge to be safe for life. Riding to cbt standard doesn't necessarily mean riders will or can pass the test, but more importantly, it does not mean they have the skills to ride a large motorcycle safely. Your experience sounds lacking in depth and breadth of training and imparting of knowledge, and it is a shame that you feel there was little worth in it. Consider advanced training however as there is a lot more to learn and apply beyond even Mod 2 standards. Many thanks.

[@mrmoon1482]

Got my mod 2 license upgrade to full A on Monday, Been riding on A1 for ten years, had a riding assessment a few weeks ago my instructor said it was riding with another instructor, and said if I ride that way on mod 2 I’ll pass so fingers crossed 🫣

[@motorcyclelessonsuk]

Very good 😊