I discovered on my first use of this pad in my tent, that I have the combo that is super loud. Any time I moved around on the pad it made a lot of noise. Turning over from one side to the other was easily heard in other tents nearby and I felt self conscious moving around, afraid I'd either wake someone up or stop them from falling asleep. I also weigh around 205 lbs and bottomed out at the hip and shoulder on my side if I let some air out to soften it.
@tsengmactantan78549 ай бұрын
I love your review in such detailed and the quick tempo you dive into stuff. I have quesitons about the noize of different pads when body moving. There's only a few review talk about it.
@hikinvikin Жыл бұрын
Exped Downmat UL is running circles around this pad especially during winter. It's warmer and lighter. Sea to summit Etherlight XT Insulated got better pumpsack, is wider, and is faster to deflate. My first Etherlight XT started to lose air from the valve, I'm having my second one now. Fingers crossed it's not starting to leak
@YoureNowOnTV Жыл бұрын
Welds at the dimples failed on mine in five places after a year. Other people on KZbin have had similar issues. Either that company rep you spoke to was new at StS or lying. It’s a more common issue than people assume. Comfortable pad but the pinhole punctures on the top where the dimples are is an issue.
@alexabney7913 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how quickly you dive into stuff. I do think there’s some room to relax but info really like to dense nature of this video. It’s edited well to keep the pace natural but I kinda feel like im on 1.3x speed or something haha. Love your content! Just sharing my thoughts
@ar110sp2 жыл бұрын
ive used like 2yrs, it is the most comfortable sleeping pad... the insulated version works reasonably well in winter as well... a regular wide version is literally like a bed ~
@hikebot2 жыл бұрын
My friend had that pad. Was the loudest thing I’ve ever heard while he was shifting around at night. Also he froze his ass of at 32F said it was like ice under him even at 40F he wasn’t happy. He returned it. Probably a great mid summer pad if camping alone with earplugs.
@helpfulcommenter2 жыл бұрын
Justin is becoming the most thorough gear reviewer on YT
@freeze19752 жыл бұрын
His channel is overrated
@patrickbaker90402 жыл бұрын
Great review. Found the pad cold around 32F. The bottom tore easily and fixing those small leaks at the seams was maddening. I weigh 240lbs.
@mezmerya51302 жыл бұрын
it's maddening about modern pads. i never use anything thinner than 70d bottom. but then they fail at seams in 3-4 years. nuff said.
@ddff52422 жыл бұрын
please compare this pad to the big Agnes rapide sl. they look very similar except the rapide being warmer.
@TimmyBobinson2 жыл бұрын
I bought the Ether light XT and the Ether light XT extreme - BOTH failed on me after minimal use at the weld points. The extreme failed in FIVE places. If it wasn't for the lifetime warranty, I would have no faith in these sleep pads. S2S statement, "I can count on one hand the amount of returns we have had." hmmm...
@YoureNowOnTV Жыл бұрын
Same with me on the Ether light XT. I was hoping the Extreme would be better but I’ll start clear of it.
@lonetreeoutdoors2 жыл бұрын
Great review!! I had a similar experience with using the ELXT Extreme and wondered why i slept so cold with such a high rated r value sleeping pad.. I figured it had something to do with the motion of my body and air movement inside the pad.. makes more sense now!
@xjessukx2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see it compared against the nemo tenser insulated for comfort and warmth
@lucasmdonald74862 жыл бұрын
I had both and sold the ether light , the Nemo wins on all counts for me and is very quite . The ether light has a rubber sound when tossing around during the night , I’m a side sleeper and just found the Nemo more comfortable and smaller to pack away .
@natehoover52662 жыл бұрын
I only have experience with a couple pads as I'm only a year or so into my backpacking career, but I got this pad on Justin's recommendation and I love it.
@valdius852 жыл бұрын
the pillow stickers work for everyone with an adhesive and some minimal DIY skill :) Great review :)
@danielmeyer37952 жыл бұрын
Was completly uncomfortable for me, now using my less rigid Exped Synmat Ul, 7cm thick. I think it depends how you sleep, Exped has two slightly thicker side tubes, this seems to work for me. My son gave it back as well after one night. Comfort seems to be different for everybody.
@malbig2344Ай бұрын
I paid £120 for the pad and £30 for the pillow, I wear hearing aids and am as deaf as a post when they are taken out, I also snore like a bulldog, so the squeaky sound will not bother me... What a great review... One question though, British cold and American cold weather would be I imagine a bit different from each other, will this pad be suitable for say minus 2?
@MrKelemen2 жыл бұрын
Hi Justin, I’ve bought my large pad right after your comparison video of sea to summit, nemo and thermarest. I love the comfort and here in the uk the r value at least for me is good enough for three seasons use. That being said, just last year I’ve had to exchange mine for exactly the same reason with the leak being on the same place at the welding. I honestly hope this was just an issue with the earlier models because after seeing your video just now and hearing sea to summit’s comment on it does make me wonder if that’s a more common manufacturing issue than they are willing to admit… Great video as always nevertheless!
@perryrush5378 Жыл бұрын
Losing air at the weld seems to be a common problem. What a shame for such a comfortable pad!
@emainz12 жыл бұрын
I love this pad. Got it on Justin’s recommendation and can’t go back to anything else. So freaking comfortable.
@tanvach2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately was't comfortable enough for me to justify the increased weight, price, and reduction in R value compared to Nemo Tensor :( My sleep was about the same between the two pads. Maybe the XT is more durable?
@rgmALC2 жыл бұрын
So your contact at S2S said that they have had 5 or less weld failures, when you have 2 on one pad? I think they may have been exaggerating.
@SS-st6ou2 жыл бұрын
or he just doing an awesome ad for them ... 🤣🙈🙈🙈
@YoureNowOnTV Жыл бұрын
Any fluffy soft surface pillow will work with the Velcro. You don’t have to use a Sea to Summit pillow.
@helpfulcommenter2 жыл бұрын
I’m at day 31 on the PCT (that’s desert miles) and the pad is holding up great
@The_real_dennis2 жыл бұрын
I am using the nemo tensor insulated long wide and can highly recommend it
@helpfulcommenter2 жыл бұрын
Wait till it inevitably pops
@Post-Alone Жыл бұрын
@@helpfulcommenterhahaha 😂
@OutsideChronicles2 жыл бұрын
Love the IR camera, great catch. I do not see the advantage of this pad over my Thermarest NeoAir Extreme. I guess the comfort of 4in over 2.5in, but size and weight are negligible especially since this pads real world r-value does not hold up. Another great video, thanks for what you do!
@abalone317 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, efficient review - thank you so much!!
@stephentuck66072 жыл бұрын
Great review. Very detailed. Have you done a review on the winter mat version, the Sea to Summit Ether Light XT Extreme which I think is rated with an R Factor of 6.2? I would be interested to know what you think of it.
@nickhikesinthewoods61502 жыл бұрын
You know I wonder if I can put Velcro on my Big Agnes pad for my sea to summit pillow would that even be a good idea
@p__jay Жыл бұрын
got their Comfort Plus Insulated mat and absolutley NEEED that pack / pump sack....why don't they sell it seperate?
@rodrev_hiking67572 жыл бұрын
I changed from Thermarest Uberlite (Popped in Iceland Despite Gossamer Gear Foampad underneath) to Thermarest Xlite to S2S Etherlite Insultated . Increased my Baseweight but Boiiiii my sleep recovery is crazy good. Ordered the Extra Wide Regular long Rectangular Shape . I sleep like on my Bed at Home . Maybe Better xD i love the Stuffsack that Functions to inflate the Pad . I just love this Pad. I didnt attach the Pillow Lock System its useless for me
@vpredhouse2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, dude! I've always wondered why this pad gets so friggin cold in moderately cold temps! And it squeaks a lot on my DCF tent floor but not at all on my other tent floors. All that said, it's definitely a very comfortable pad for an overweight side-sleeper with a bad hip! Testing the updated Tensor in the Eastern Sierras this weekend.
@bunterkessel2 жыл бұрын
After about 30 nights I had at least five failed weld points.
@RobboOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I used mine for the first time on the weekend and the noise when I rolled over woke the whole camp site...It was like sleeping on a field of bagpipes...A lot of other reviews say one of the 'pros' of the pad was the crinkle free silent nights sleep....It is thick and comfortable but the noise...:(
@Post-Alone Жыл бұрын
Haha sleeping on a field of bagpipes?! Brilliant 👏
@GoodkatNW2 жыл бұрын
I find the Tensor insulated and BA Q-Core are both more comfortable. Personal preference, I guess
@PhilHaddon2 жыл бұрын
I've got one. I'm a side sleeper but just can't get comfortable on it despite all the reviews saying it's the most comfortable pad ever. If I let it down a bit it's then too cold if the ground is 9°c or lower
@mettevilain6750 Жыл бұрын
please make a review comparing this one with the nemo quasar 3d. Seems to be the two sidesleeper comfort kings on the market, but the nemo is quite overlooked. I know its heavy but still for some comfort is the number one feature :0)
@rickallenrealtor6 ай бұрын
Any recommendations as to how to get the pad back into the sack easily?
@GearPriority6 ай бұрын
fold it in thirds
@theoutdoordogandhikinggirl2 жыл бұрын
My experience is that other pillows work as well with the patches 😉.
@curtelverd2 жыл бұрын
I purchased the Ether Light XT a few months back. I am taking a 4 night backpacking trip to Jasper National during mid-July. I've seen where lows can get down to 30 degrees F. Do you think this pad with an 1/8" foam underneath will be warm enough?
@rodrev_hiking67572 жыл бұрын
Had no Issues with the Pad in Iceland Highlands in the low 30 at nights and i didnt even bring a Foampad underneath. Used a 20F Downquilt , no probs . Am neither cold or warm sleeper
@jezza39462 жыл бұрын
Is it better then the ether light xt extreme?
@JerryHernandez2 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin gear video! Can you shed some light on how S2S claims the womens version has a higher R value. Maybe a women's large might work for added warmth? Side note: Big Agnes Rapide sl. What do you think?
@natehoover52662 жыл бұрын
Customer service and warranties are almost more important than anything else. I just had a bad Customer service experience with a company and they did not stand behind their product so I'll never buy from them again, which is unfortunate because I definitely would have bought more.
@unightie2 жыл бұрын
You have an infrared machine!? Cool
@natehoover52662 жыл бұрын
Bro! You got samples from STS for your videos? Justin, you are a legend!
@Juanaponymous2 жыл бұрын
Is this not the ‘insulated’ version?
@apsynto2 жыл бұрын
The Velcro patches do a great job of sticking to your hair and scratching your face as well if you don't use a pillow
@rachelbrain2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you compare this to the Nemo Quasar 3D Insulated pad. It's a heavier pad, but it's amazingly comfortable. I'd be really interested to see if its comfort level is comparable to the Ether Light XT. I rarely see it mentioned on backpacking channels, probably because of the weight, but it has been wonderful for me.
@alexanderroberts34242 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask for the same comparison. I've been considering the quasar, glad to hear it's working out for you!
@rantg2 жыл бұрын
so this or NeoAir XLight ?
@spectre41302 жыл бұрын
What tent is that in the background?
@GearPriority2 жыл бұрын
Lunar Solo
@syindrome2 жыл бұрын
Gotta sleep with the pink spoon for extra warmth
@fernyology2 жыл бұрын
Great video man
@brianbartulis9709 Жыл бұрын
Areobed of 1992 had baffles/touch deflate. Change a molecule it's not Chiffon margarine patent violation as chairs X design? 200.00 balloon a dog can ruin is just silly. ~ We had two very large high priced (very comfy) foam self inflatables, but was recommended to store unrolled. (huh? who has the room for such?) Deflating rolling would cramp hands/forearms to fit in the stingy sacks, like girdle on a fat lady. yikes! ~ Unrolled stow? meh, until I could figure I put them in the truck bed, but silly me closed the valves inflated. They both went boom under 90° day/tonneau covered truck bed while at work. :-l ~ Best was very huge/heavy polly filled bags (rated 20°?) under huge lean two on top of cut cattail stalks at lake edge..snow 'n 30° over night. Two zipped together as queen pretty much. Best hasn't been had yet. Mummy bag in a hammock doesn't have room for the tinkle/coffee can at feet btw. (-; Squared bottom bag one can change clothes in ta boot. Fahhh, fold as a mumster need be.
@rd58542 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one who's arms fall asleep while sleeping on my side in the Backcountry. Anyone have a remedy for this? Other than not sleeping on my side
@victorl.7771 Жыл бұрын
It is a very comfortable pad indeed but really not warm enough for its price/weight. So overall am disappointed and will stick to their other model the Ultralight Insulated with similar R value but feels warmer (cheaper but not as comfortable).
@helpfulcommenter2 жыл бұрын
Pillow lock system is annoying tbh I took off all stickers but one. That’s all it takes. Sometimes I actually wanna shift my pillow around.
@SBK_ALL_DAY Жыл бұрын
OUt bag does not connect to the bag at all they are different sizes entirely
@helpfulcommenter2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow I had to check my KZbin player because I thought it was at 1.5x speed
@Truth-Seeker752 жыл бұрын
KAPOW - SCIENCE!!! Nice work. Always appreciate the integrity in your videos. But, slow down my friend - hearing you clearly will keep the clicks coming more than a few seconds of video longer than you’d like.
@WanderingSwitchback2 жыл бұрын
Try the Extreme! So much warmer, and not much heavier or bulkier.
@bearhawk4262 жыл бұрын
I've used mine at -23° F (-5° C) and been very comfortable. I feel that I am a pretty average cold sleeper.
@rgmALC2 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say this was a lie…
@rodrev_hiking67572 жыл бұрын
@@rgmALC used mine in the 20F in Icelandic Highlands without a Foampad underneath and a 20F down Quilt by UGQ and was never cold ...
@tridoc992 жыл бұрын
Why would the woman’s pad have a higher R value than the men’s?
@at0mic2826 ай бұрын
Lmao... Sea to summit might need a bigger hand for counting. My pad recently sprung a leak at the welds (as is to be expected because of stress concentration at these locations) and I've seen quite a lot of ppl woth similar issues on Reddit etc. Don't get me wrong, this pad is awesome and light weight for the comfort and insulation you get (I don't feel like R3.2 is wrong here), but the welds are a problem an S2S asks you to destroy your old pad and just sends you a replacement... not very environmentally friendly when just a patch kit could've solved it.
@apocsurvival9162 жыл бұрын
I thought this was rated as 6.3 r value??
@GearPriority2 жыл бұрын
That's the Ether Light XT Extreme. This is the Insulated.
@apocsurvival9162 жыл бұрын
@@GearPriority Gotcha Justin 👌, I do see that other video you have on that. Watching it now. We trust you. Btw, great vids from your last trip. Very envious!
@kpj52 жыл бұрын
Beware, Its actually hard and not comfortable at all and I so wanted to love it. If u let air out it just becomes a wobble mess.. still on the hunt 😝 maybe big Agnes’s qcore
@wintunewrep2 жыл бұрын
I deflate mine a little to make it more comfortable and I'm not bothered by it wobbling
@stdr042 жыл бұрын
I hate the wobble. It’s a bit heavier, but try the Thermarest Trail Pro. It has a suede-like material on top that’s not squeaky or slippery. Also, no wobble. No one talks about it because it’s over 2 lbs, but it’s more comfortable than all these other inflatables hands down.
@kerry1383 Жыл бұрын
Fwiw, a pad will lose pressure as air gets colder regardless of whether you’re using the bag or your breath. The bag is to reduce getting moisture inside the pad during inflation in colder temps from your breath.
@GearPriority Жыл бұрын
But your breath is warmer than the air, so the delta is greater.
@SS-st6ou2 жыл бұрын
yeah tou said the same for the quasar 3D ...most comfi night and so on .... duuude be objective ...
@GearPriority2 жыл бұрын
I've never used the quasar 3d and have never talked about it...
@SS-st6ou2 жыл бұрын
@@GearPriority apologies, , my bad !
@nrs80435 ай бұрын
Count on one hand the failures?! There’s more you tube videos on the failures of this pad than you can count on one hand
@ashtoddphotography2 жыл бұрын
Still though, nothing comes close to the thermarest neoair range for their weight and warmth. I honestly don't know why folk bother with anything else.
@MrWipex Жыл бұрын
If you don't mind waking up on the ground middle of the night, you may enjoy this one. The pad has been failing me time and time again in the air spring dimples (holes). Their welding technique is just rubbish!! Do Not Buy this pad!! I used it maybe 20 nights , and had 5 leaks in 5 different dimples. They have a serious quality issue, unfotunately.
@BushcraftEurope Жыл бұрын
It's lound and shit, breaked about 15 camping trips. Do not buy
@camperp1952 жыл бұрын
Trekology UL 80 or UL 140 beats this hands down,and is a third the price