Most Essential T4s and Characters for Dark Dimension 3 (Bare Minimum Character Investment)

[@ValleyFlyin]

Correction 16:00 Carnage is the City MVP AFTER Symbiote Spider-Man . I was thinking of a question earlier this week about using Venom as the second. If you have the bio resources my order of recommendation would be SSM then Carnage then Venom.

[@ThePashaentreri13]

Completely agree. Though it's able to be done with only SSM and Carnage, if you can add Venom, its lights out when you hit city.

[@allnamesaretakenful]

@@ThePashaentreri13 I did 36k on Node 15 today with SSM and Carnage because Juggernaut somehow went first and used his special. I really need Venom.

[@irimaximustv]

Would these characters work on DD2? Thanks 😊

[@ThePashaentreri13]

@@irimaximustv yes

[@irimaximustv]

ThePashaentreri13 what’s the best team to run with Minn and Scientist supreme?

[@bergorreynisson9520]

As an honorable mention I would like to add Mordo for sure, he doesn't need as many mini uniques as many other characters and when he's paired up with Hela he's fantastic. He also gets the heal from the Gregs dying and if you use his special and spread the blinds with Hela's ult you basically get an extra turn to wreck the enemies.

[@Leobite08]

This, Mordo has been incredibly underrated for DD3.

[@ValleyFlyin]

All good points. Not sure why he hasn’t been brought up as much. His kit is really solid with a turn 1 stun and blinds.

[@whazzas5023]

Mordo is the second toon I'm bringing to G14, for this reason. Just need three more of those infernal books

[@bergorreynisson9520]

@@ValleyFlyin Probably since him, Hela and Maw are all mystic so he falls under the radar. But that pair is really good and it got me through that cosmic part pretty quickly.

[@alabamamagick]

@@bergorreynisson9520 Any specific T4s for DD3 for him?

[@Slacker6680]

The most efficient way would be for you to stop forgetting to do the nodes some days, Valley. 🤣

[@ValleyFlyin]

That would be the MOST efficient. Lol. It would have saved me at least a week or so.

[@Howlingbrown]

😂

[@stryker7236]

@@ValleyFlyin It would have save me 3-4 weeks.... so don't feel too bad.

[@TorrentFiend10]

Happens to the best of us. Lol

[@zmpjacksoncomics2077]

I haven’t unlocked dubble d yet thanks I know who to get for when I do no matter what I’m using carnage for everything(not hero’s duh) Although carnage did TRY to be the hero he’s a villain most the time

[@jerryhofstra6894]

Great vid, liked the way you covered certain issues. I like Carnage basic as well. D buffs are always on the board when he is on the field, so you will always get to chain and with his passive speed, he will be basicing all the time. And Shuri would not be good, since she is Global. And D up is coming from Colossus to Phoenix anyway

[@gavin3935]

Mr Sinister is also a good option for DD3 if you have some spare gear.

[@ThePashaentreri13]

Full symbiotes 1 shot all city nodes. It was great. Was very happy to finish node 12 and then get through the last 4 nodes this morning. Huge relief. Rounded out my teams for 2nd run. So hopefully won't take another 94 days. Hoping to atleast cut it in half.

[@projectpat8807]

Well, I'm sure once level 80, gear 15, and Iso-8 get added to the game, we'll be able to blast through DD3. Plus maybe throw in a few more character releases. At least I haven't started DD3 yet, so I can learn from other players' mistakes and trial runs of DD3 and know who to definitely focus on and hold off on. It happened to me with DD2. I probably won't be able to start DD3 until September or October at the earliest. Only got 2 characters at gear 14 (Phoenix and Rocket (Rocket was for minor OCD reasons)), so I still got a while yet, but I'm getting there. A lot of the recommended characters are about gear 13.5 or gear 13 and 1-3 gear slots to fill. Sym Spider-Man, Hela, and Minn-Erva are my next closest to becoming gear 14. I do have Maw. He's at gear 13, but I want to finish Sym Spider-Man, Hela, and Minn-Erva first since they are pretty much right there on being gear 14.

[@mattiac.8892]

Many msf content creators advise against putting t4s for Minn but i did her passive for dd2 and never regret it. She was paired with Hela and all those minions dying made her look almost like carnage at times. I don't know if this will be as valuable in dd3 cosmic nodes, but like i said, never regret it thus far.

[@alabamamagick]

I was just asking my alliance yesterday who should I push for DD3 and then today you post this. 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@ChessRabbitt]

I T4 Minn-Erva passive, WORTH IT!!! That 5% does make a difference. I recommend it.

[@maxducoudray]

Great video. The only T4 you mentioned I wouldn’t do is Colossus basic. I get a lot fewer T4 mats than you get in your high-end guild (less three T4 abilities per month), and I think that one is optional.

[@mindforgecollective]

From someone who is on the second City node I approve this message. Also I really wish I'd have done Carnage for city, instead of Invisible Women I used on cosmic.

[@RLucas3000]

Who did you use for each section of DD3?

[@mindforgecollective]

@@RLucas3000 Ultron, Phoenix, Colossus, Scientist Supreme for Global. The only 2 who were actually useful were Phoenix and Colossus. Everyone else got 1 shot before they could do anything. For Cosmic I took BB, Hela, IW, EM, and Minn-Erva. Pretty sure I could have done all the nodes with out BB or IW. Those resources could have gone to Carnage and Venom for City. For City I started with only SSM, and as good as he is it was slow going with just 1 character. I didn't have the stuff to build more Bio so I worked on Merc Lieutenant, and Punisher. Both of which are just meat shields because they get 1 or 2 shot and are gone before long. SSM pulls about 95 percent of the damage. You only need 7 characters to do the whole thing. Phoenix, Colossus, Hela, Minn-Erva, EM, SSM, and Carnage or Venom.

[@middlelightly]

Bare minimum is all good but I would argue that Yoyo is a good addition to Global since she uses bio that can be used on Venom. With Symbiotes trio, you can one shot all city nodes in a single day while yoyo only helps a bit after colossus is dead.

[@psychlops8971]

On my last unrestricted node and going into global with pheonix ready w/ colossus just needing a few mini uniques to join the fun. Good to know his basic is worth the upgrade!

[@rockalex1970]

This has been the one video I needed, but didnt realize I need. Thank you for the content brotha! This was immensly helpfull!

[@luisfernandofajardotorruco1853]

remember that minnerva paired with the death of the gregs makes her passive vaible, still not recomended tho but somethig that makes things les painfull

[@TeeLeww81]

thats the only T4 for minnerva thats even close to considering IMO

[@_shahan8600]

I needed this video because I’ve gotten my team for DD2 all done and I’m going into it and after I finish DD2 I’m going to DD3 and this video is a great help. Great video 👍

[@jasonoreilly2795]

I'd say Helas Special should be a must and her opening move. You'll have Gregs turn and Symbiotes (I think!) Then her ultimate

[@Archelaus_v]

The thing about DD3 - you just need to start with 5 toons. Focus phoenix and the rest is just who you can farm to `4 fastest. One reasons I brought KM into DD3 is he was the only skill at the time I had at 13 that I used for DD2. Also consider toons that you use for U7 and Arena - Shuri, BB, Mr S, IW. All will be good for DD3 because they give value in other game modes. If you have BB you need to take him to G14 for arena alone - he is the best toon in the game across game modes. The only mistake I made was ultron - utter utter trash in DD3. At least KM can spray some damage - Shuri can give me some energy and d up - Ultron just dies.

[@mooneygb]

I'm 1 t14 away from starting, and they're all on this list! Thanks for the clarification, brother! My first was Minn, so I have plenty of left over tech gear. Would you recommend Shuri, Ultron or SL. Or just save the gear for t15 Minn?

[@ognyanramisov8111]

@ValleyFlyin super clip mate :) But I think Ghost Rider should also be in the list

[@andrekperez]

You say that Minnerva passive T4 is a luxury pick because it only works with a lot of minions etc... but forget to mention you are pairing her with Hela, who happens to have a Greg that keeps spawning. 5% for every Greg death sounds pretty good to me, especially considering SL will not be around to give them energy... that Minn Ult has such a long cooldown.

[@kevinwalsh8483]

I'm not messing .... some days I forget to hit dd3!!

[@Itz_shadowttv]

Yay you went with my suggestion on what video to make thank you valley as I need to know what I should be t4ing on who best to take in so thank you hulk fist bump

[@ValleyFlyin]

Thanks for the idea brother.. You are awesome.

[@Itz_shadowttv]

ValleyFlyin anytime man anything to help out my favourite content creator

[@jasonparry7080]

great vid valley ...can i ask who have mentioned colossus , mine has only 4 red stars but is better geared should i take him into dd3 or swap him for mr sinister who has 5 red stars, plus i ain`t unlocked ebony maw yet ...is that a big problem cheers j

[@joseirimia]

Good recommendations. I would add for cosmic thanos. He feeds energy to adjacents taunts and help cruise through cosmic nodes. For t4s i did all, but essential is the passive. Also i use him everyday everywhere.

[@mikels78]

I am watching this from the future!

[@carlmcclatchie2122]

I got a 6 red star drop for falcon when trying to get beast red stars (ended up with 1 red on him :( ) Anyway should I take falcon into DD3 I am on the anyone nodes currently but my thinking is you often face 10 + guys per wave and if they have buffs that is a lot of extra turn meter. when he uses his special, but I am thinking most of it will just be colosus and phoneix grinding anyway so is it really worth it? I think bonus turn meter will always be good regardless of power creep so it does not sound like a dumb idea in my own head and I should start global next week. Thoughts?

[@Zero-zy1yc]

Hey valley, wotif scopely made dark dimensions 1 2 & 3 rewards keeped after you've completed it twice, them you can played it once a week for the same rewards, that should help the gear crunch and gold.

[@vohbovohborian28]

Even allowing one extra run would be absolutely insane for rewards but also a huge tax of extra time needed. Better not no.

[@cyberdan42]

What about Mr Sinister??

[@snakeman7999]

Valley, just unlocked ultron! Already half way through my 2nd play through. Should I use my precious t4 on SSM Or put it on ultron’s special? Yes I’m building for dd3 but I’m only 1.8 mill collection power currently

[@jasonoreilly2795]

SSM all the way. He's a Raid toon. In fact I'd say T4 everything regardless of his star lvl.

[@canaanbricker1726]

Hey I love your content. I have a question for you. I am a free to play player. I would say I am a "vet" I am trying to decide what character to make 7 red stars. My list is: Magneto, Invisible Woman, Carnage, Hela, or Thanos. I would love symbiote spiderman but I just got 5 stars on him and no where near getting Phoenix. Any suggestions?

[@myronl2910]

they hit hard in the global nodes like 2-3 hits and you're dead.The 1st global node isn't too bad but the 2nd one begins to get harder. phoenix does pretty much 90% of the damage for me right now. everyone else is just cannon fodder to keep phoenix alive.

[@Odinson42]

Just thought about the PHX-5. an empowered team when one dies the others get stronger. only one Majik away complete with phx outfits. it’ll happen. rumor?

[@bradrichardson08]

Public -DD4 characters let’s prepare DD4 release. You got to foxnetted- 5 hand minions required at t15 only for first 4 nodes .... lol

[@destroyer3952]

Bit despite. I was on stream

[@jackrohrer2773]

*me playing 7months, and struggling through DD1

[@ValleyFlyin]

Think of this video as a roadmap of what is to come

[@jasonoreilly2795]

Stop lvling Defenders and go straight into Guardians my friend. Aim for StarLord

[@jackrohrer2773]

ValleyFlyin yeah I’ve been watching you since I started so I’d never F up too bad haha. You and mobile gamer have helped out tons

[@jackrohrer2773]

Jason O'Reilly never leveled defenders at all which I’m kicking myself over, cause now I can’t beat heroes 7-1 (almost ready cause i have crazy ghostrider and symbiote though, just lvling mediocre city heroes now)

[@jackrohrer2773]

Jason O'Reilly but I’ve got 66k carnage, 62k Symbispidey, and 58k Venom rn, cause they’re by far my main team.( with 4rs hela, 4rs5s capmarvel, or 6rs mordo sometimes)

[@aubreysmith7355]

I wouldn't do Hela. I regret it. At minimum I d do Maw first. Hela takes so much orange gear and so many mini uniques 75/75/30. I would concentrate on arena over DD3 so if you have Maw and black order invested in just do Maw and Thanos ( who takes not a lot of orange gear) and make a strong black order. Arena is more important than DD3. Also ghost rider is mystic so he might be If you have might even be before Hela. A complete Black order would do well in DD3 but even skipping Cull since he is bio would leave room for Minerva instead. Everything else I agree with.

[@marklippert7745]

why is arena more important than DD3?

[@Msp33d]

So, If you have Minnerva in DD3 with Ultron and Hela, does her speed bar go up for each Greg death as well as Ultron minions?

[@joshchatwin8179]

What about scream n anti venom now

[@mikewheatontrainingsolutio5910]

What do you think about captain marvel? She was a boss in dd2. I am one piece from her t14.

[@edudum]

which skill character should I take to g14 since i have a lot of skill mini uniques and I just want to start running the nodes

[@jamesgames7762]

i havent unlocked dark dimension yet but are there any characters i should work on early to get a head start (I am working on guardians and brotherhood atm)

[@christiang208]

looks good, check out the requirements for phoenix and some of them are early farms. with hand assassin you could rush her and hope for a hand rework ^^

[@DannyDJ1205]

What you did is nice and all, but if u focus on dd3 and ignore arena for 3-6 months, you're gonna be in alot of pain

[@coryyoung26]

@Valleyflyin I saw your dark Phoenix at a power of 103173 but when you went back to show normal Phoenix her power was at 99k. Is this a bug or is it supposed to be this way?

[@slisyd]

Word up Valley!

[@JesterOmega5]

Thoughts on Killmonger for global! But more importantly Skill gear?

[@ValleyFlyin]

Can he help? Sure. But if you are looking to save resources for DD4, I think you can get through without him.

[@HardcoreHarvey]

I cant believe you didnt mention Groot and Fury. They are ...... a huge mistake. Im still upset that i did them. I was going off the original idea of just get in there.

[@joshuamcguire6919]

What about merc lieutenant for the speed up and a little extra healing. @valleyflyin

[@ThePashaentreri13]

He didn't even last through the first city node. Only need symbiotes.

[@dwalkeradz]

A lot of players aren't through with DD3 (AKA the non Mega Whales) lol

[@Angellord2k5]

Hey valley was scientist supreme ever on the radar for dd3?

[@pernitz22]

Wassup, Valley! I have a doubt, you and also OhEmGee recommended 6 to 8 essential characters for DD3, can I run through ALL the nodes with these 6-8 characters?

[@all_hail_annihilus_lordoft3591]

Doom bots and molecule man please and thank you

[@sidthekid6222]

You should talk about how dope Raveger Bruiser is. T4 all of his kit and see how fast you Smash DD3.🥊😵

[@lilv3966]

So why did we get free shards of Scientist Supreme from that tacko Japan guy when they completed Dd3 in the spring. We were also given other shards for tons no one picks in these lists

[@djsaunter]

Those early players whaled their way through, it took a while to find out who the mvps where in the game mode. The same thing will happen with dd4, a few whales will power through, vloggers will present their theories, then a few months later we’ll find out who the mvps are

[@projectpat8807]

I'm sure Scientist Supreme is helpful in DD3, but all the others listed in the video are better. Plus Maw wasn't in the game yet, so maybe Maw removes Scientist Supreme from recommended DD3 characters (something like that). Oh and consider what that player did to be trial and error and he tested DD3 for everyone. That's what these dark dimensions are for the first couple months. It's all trial and error. It's even the same with raids, especially Ultimus 7. No one knew what to expect, so they went in and tested with certain characters. Then they kept playing around with characters more and more to find what characters would be the best to use in Ultimus 7. I think that's why Mobile Gamer/OhEmGee likes to call those that can complete the newest raid or the new dark dimensions "beta testers/players." They are pretty much testing out stuff and reporting back to the rest of the players/community on who to use and so they can get through it faster. New raid difficulties and new dark dimensions are in some "beta" state for the first couple weeks or months. So with the list of characters being mentioned for DD3, the beta testing phase is over with. I'm sure Scientist Supreme is still useful though. But the ones listed in the video will make things A LOT easier. Scientist Supreme is probably one you should gear 14 immediately after the recommended ones in the video.

[@rinkitorirataki7488]

So you have 2 mutant 2 mystic 1 Tech 2 bio, if we assume get part for all class then this take way too long to even get start on dd3

[@projectpat8807]

Not really. I've noticed I'm getting faster at gearing my characters to 14 (100% free to play too, so I'm not spending money to speed up). I think the most important thing to do is pay attention to the different types of catalysts. That's where I'm struggling the most. Not so much the pieces that cost 50k or 72k gold in the supply store. It's all the different types of catalysts. So if you do one character for each of the catalysts (not talking superior basic catalysts aka SBc's since those are needed for everyone), then you could probably do about 2-4 characters at a time. I don't think all characters need every type of catalyst. One could need the green one, another the orange one, a third the red ones, another those tan/brown color ones. Right now I'm trying to get my Sym Spider-Man to 14. One gear slot away from being complete. It's not the 50k or 72k pieces I need. It's the dang red catalysts that are stopping me and I can't remember if he needed the green or orange or brownish/tan catalysts for other gear slots. But I need 150 red one for the gear slot for Sym Spider-Man. But you should also pay attention to the 50k and 72k pieces as well. I feel those come in second place after the catalysts. But I'm also buying as many of those as I can, especially if I see the green on the gear in the store since the green dot indicates that someone currently needs those at the current gear they are, although I do click on them to check who needs them. But I try to buy those 50k and 72k pieces as much as I can. And if I overstock, well, they'll be on standby for another character later on. Also, in the road map of what's to come in the game, the developers say that all the gear 14 will become a lot easier to farm and stuff. So that'll speed up the farming for gear 14 and to get into DD3. So we should have more gear 14 characters incoming by the end of 2020. That's if they can stick to the road ahead map blog they posted and things do get delayed or anything.

[@rinkitorirataki7488]

Patrick McDaniel most new player will run into problem of mini unique like it or not because the only way to get it is on the store u, there few bliz even here and there but the give all class equal amount, I am free to play too I buy every unique or mini unique but it’s not like they spawm the class I wants. I already in dd3 but I can’t pick and choose and I have too spread all class equals the idea of bring 2 class at the same time is only possible if you are really lucky

[@RaulPerez-to3jq]

I have a T13 6RS magneto. Would you recommend taking him in global instead of task master? Since they both do similar things

[@christiang208]

the problem is that Magneto is a mutant and phoenix and Colossos are probably the dream team there. Taskmaster is Skill, and there is not much to choose from there, proxima, corvus and merc ltd are the other contenders for the mini uniques there.

[@RaulPerez-to3jq]

Christian G gotcha! Yeah that makes sense! Ironically, I have a bunch of skill mini uniques!

[@shadowwolf2906]

Lol normal Phoenix mode aka Jean Grey

[@afoolishk9266]

Haha, I'm not even on DD1! So, jokes on me! Haha! Ha, ha, help me...

[@spiderprime]

going to call it, any of hte characters that worked the best in DD3, won't work in DD4 cause of the tags.

[@legendaryhulk5972]

Valley What about Cable for Cosmic because he gains speed bar for himself and has turn meter rewind for enemies? Also what do you think about Vulture for City because he can do Slow on the enemies and do turn meter rewind on them as well. ? Appreciate your thoughts.

[@catalyst539]

Cable now gains BARRIER.

[@legendaryhulk5972]

@@catalyst539 cool. Original question still stands.

[@legendaryhulk5972]

@UC0HHSZotTw5yNpSzGfGrYhw City....

[@TheeFantomas]

Is Sinister useful in DD3? Do you expect that to shift when Emma Frost comes out?

[@projectpat8807]

I think Mobile Gamer/OhEmGee and Valley and maybe even Khasino have said to hold off on taking Sinister to 14. They said wait for the DD3 100% completion rewards to take Sinister to gear 14. Or wait until you have all the recommended characters in the video at gear 14 before working on Sinister.

[@ValleyFlyin]

He was my second mutant and wish I did Colossus before him. He is good outside that mode so I don’t mind it too much tho. There were times he helped on Global but I wouldn’t say he is a low priority for that DD3

[@maxmonat]

Smash it!!!

[@hookemups6710]

Cher Bro..

[@vukmajstorovic7033]

I didnt even start DD1 yet

[@chrisg1915]

How do u have squirrel girl already?

[@catalyst539]

He opened the Orbs to show the viewers if she’s worth it.

[@chrisg1915]

@@catalyst539 oh

[@brendanwillard991]

Any T4s on taskmaster?

[@ValleyFlyin]

His best T4s are his passive and Ultimate... I haven't taken him into DD3 to see how valuable they are for that particular game mode.

[@brendanwillard991]

ValleyFlyin cool, man! Thanks for the reply!

[@royacaba1538]

How can u suggest yo yo w colossus ? Lol

[@SulixD]

dd4 ? really ? if they increase the difficulty again I will be so depressed

[@RobertGarcia915]

I haven’t even start DD2... 😓

[@daimonblack307]

I'm not even in DD3

[@DazJn]

dude, great content, but you need to slow down when you talk and actually compose what you are going to say... I find your videos hard to follow and lengthy. but otherwise huge fan and keep up the great work!

[@jamessproston2115]

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