MOST POPULAR Over Under Shotguns!

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The Browning Citori is probably the most popular over and under shotgun at the moment, and I have one to share with you today. I am also going to discuss with you the Miroku and the Winchester 101. I describe for you two firing systems -- the inertia system and the mechanical system. I hope you find this informative and interesting. Take care out there and thanks for watching!
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[@bobgarr6246]

Hi Mike, I'd like to relate a humorous, at least to me, story about the Citori. Keep in mind that it is an inertia driven firing mechanism. Years ago I was at the range. A few shooters came to the line to with Browning Citori shotguns for some informal clay shooting. They were all very proud of their brand spanking new, and expensive Citori's. They proceeded to chamber 1 round each and in turn each fired one round and missed their clay pigeon. Next they attempted to load and fire their second barrel and in turn each was stumped, perplexed and pissed off that all three of their Citori O/U shotguns were broken or defective and not firing. After watching their frustration for about 20 minutes I decided to lend a hand. They had tried a few times to break the action and try again only to have just the one barrel fire. The loading of only one round was a range safety protocol, not of anyone's choosing. I asked what the problem was and if they would like a little help. I explained that I use Browning Citori shotguns and am quite familiar with their in's and outs. After hearing their explanation I was handed one of the shotguns. I chambered a round and dusted a clay. Then chambered the second round and holding the barrels with one hand, gently but firmly bumped the but on the ground. I shouldered the shotgun said pull, and low and behold it fired and dusted the clay. They were befuddled! Exclamations of what? How? And why, abounded. I explained that the Citori is an inertia operated shotgun. Simply put in clocks the second hammer with the recoil of firing the first shot. But it applies only if you fire the correct barrel first, if not the other barrel will not have a cocked hammer. So by bumping the butt on the ground you can simulate recoil and cock the hammer for the second barrel. Of course this is a moot point if you load both chambers. The three guys were very pleased their new Citori shotguns were not broken and grateful for the explanation and tip on what to do. The lesson here is that you SHOULD understand how your firearm functions, be familiar with it's design and now how to diagnose problems it may exhibit. Anything less could prove dangerous.

[@Stigstigster]

I happen to love the way you do things on this channel. I am not a betting man but I would bet that many, many people feel the same way. I don't comment on everything because I don't always have something constructive to say due to my own lack of knowledge on many subjects. However, my lack of knowledge always, always decreases upon watching one of your presentations. In other words I always learn a lot seeing this stuff. I often feel like I am sat just across the table from you, listening and learning. The relative ease with which you can communicate with all of us is one of the great things about the internet. As always, all the best to you and yours.

[@oldschoolskater7687]

I agree 110% with Stigstigster!!!

[@fishertroy8393]

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[@anderskaiden3583]

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[@MrSiestaFiesta]

I have the "sister" or "cousin" to the Stevens SxS, the Savage Fox Model B. To see American workmanship like that is fascinating.

[@Iceaxehikes]

You made me retrieve my Weatherby Orion Sporter 12 ga O/U (serial prefix E circa 1982-1990). On these Japanese made Orions the barrel selector is a button built into the top of the trigger. Beautiful engraving with a lotus and some clays. Found it on a consignment rack, where I find a lot of treasures. People are over-looking the old firearms in their rush to grab the glocks and black rifles. So much treasure out there.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Wish I had the Orion - superb...sadly so hard to find.

[@stephenkutney9626]

I believe that the Orion is an SKB. I have an Ithaca/SKB and a Turkey made target SKB. Both are very reliable.

[@marcush4741]

I havent even watched the video yet, but I'm really happy to see a firearms video that isnt made by a person who wants to treat firearms ownership like a special forces building clearing operation.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Marcus - I hope the video was okay. All the best.

[@NotoEP]

I just got my first o/u last week. A Franchi Instinct LX. Haven’t got to shoot it yet but can’t wait.

[@richarddixon7276]

Pray , Ramble On !, I like detail I think I learn more & I learned quite a bit about shotguns ,about things I didn't know ,I Didn't Know ! , I look forward to another shotgun episode with perhaps more detail to the Webley & Scott You alluded to. Thanks for Yourself and the film crew's Time , keep up the excellent content . Shoot Straight , Stay Safe & Stay Well ! .

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Richard - you and yours as well! God Bless

[@oldschoolskater7687]

Once again, an excellent introductory presentation of the mechanics of the over and under shotgun. Keep up the great work. Btw, I did pick up the CZ drake in 12ga, along with the Stevens 301 in 20ga. Thank you for all your help.

[@aaronwilcox6417]

I used to have that Miruko made for Charles Daly. Great shotgun.

[@augustahennessy720]

If you check out an English KZbin , TGS , they are showing a 1970’s Miroku ORE that has shot over 5 million rounds . These are fantastic guns .

[@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888]

The Browning website has a nice explanation of their history with Miroku that is well worth the read. From that I learned that Miroku based their first over/under on the Superposed, and in the irony of history it was the Miroku/Browning Citori that took the place of the Superposed in the lineup. Anyways, it was nice seeing a Stevens SxS. I like to use one from the 1930's when I do clay shooting and she is just a joy to shoot. She has a nice easy swing and clay birds end in dust if I do my job. Honestly, for a shotgun that is pushing 90 I think that speaks well to its design and manufacture. Stay safe, and thank you to you and those behind the scenes for the videos.

[@jeanmorin3247]

When Miroku took over the Superposed for Browning, in end-70s and early 80s, they produced an O/U for a few years that was not known as a Citori. Those guns were made in the fashion of Belgian Fabrique Nationale, with lots of manual labor. With the Citori, a lot more of machined work was introduced, and the individual touch was diminished by the industrial process. This is why the Superposed classes of O/U (Midas, Diana, etc) are today seen as a better class of shotgun than the Citori. However, those O/U that were made in the initial years of the Miroku takeover are very good shotguns, in the Fabrique Nationale tradition. Miroku wanted to prove beyond doubt that they could do as well as Fabrique Nationale as artisans of top-range guns. But the problem of price of labor that affected FN soon reached Miroku. The introduction of Citori addressed the problem of labor price by increasing industrial machinerie processes. Those guns produced by Miroku soon after having taken FN's Browning contract are a batch of great quality. They rival FN's best. They are not Citori Browning. They are Miroku-Brownings. Look them up.

[@jeanmorin3247]

What was very important that you did not mention on the recoil system of the Citori is that, if the first shell does not go off, you can activate the second shell with the safety. By moving the safety from O to U or from U to O, it cocks the hammer and you can fire the second shot without having to open the gun. It takes a half second, if you know what to do. Anybody who does not know that must thing that the recoil system is indeed very inferior to the mechanical...

[@jeanmorin3247]

Note: The safety also acts as the barrel selector, O (Over) or U (Under). Moving the selector to the unfired barrel cocks the hammer and allows immediate firing.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Jean : ) The Citori owners that write me seem to be wing shooters hoping for two shots for birds on the fly. Very good to know if there is time to make the switch and still get the second shot off on a bird. Anyway, the first shot usually works these days - shells are so reliable.

[@claygood2844]

The inertia system works fine. Rarely do you get a misfire. When you do, it’s usually dry fired. Duh. To reset, (hopefully with a recoil pad) - unload if needed and slam the butt to the ground. It will reset. I have a field model 28 ga with 28” barrels, full and modified and take everything from dove to pheasant. It absolutely shoots where pointed. Same with my 20 and GTI 12. Love the 101, my dad had one along with a Winchester model 21 in sk-sk in 12, a Fox/Savage B in 12, 2 model 31’s 12 & 20 and a model 29 along with modern Citoris and Browning S/S ‘s. Shoot what you like and what works for you. Thanks for sharing.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Great post Clay; they're all great - I just picked up a sidelock made in Spain - handles so perfectly! Good shooting and take care Clay.

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

I know next to nothing about over & under shotguns, but I found your vid very interesting and educational. Thanks! Greets, T.

[@maverickvideos1524]

You still know next to nothing because most of the information was incorrect especially with the miroku vs the browning

[@rudolfyakich6653]

I am studying over/under shotguns. 28 gauge is appealing except for the cost of ammo. I will be giving clays a try.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Rudolf - You'll like clays - pretty exciting and challenging. The 28 is worth the extra coin - at least to me. Stay safe and good shooting.

[@chrislucas3451]

Thanks for another well thought through video

[@garyK.45ACP]

Here is an interesting variation. I have a wonderful BRNO 571 O/U made in Czechoslovakia, most likely in the 1950s or 60s. It has mechanical triggers, no recoil needed to reset for the 2nd shot. Yes, I said "triggers". There are two. They are what BRNO calls "double single triggers". If you pull the front trigger, it fires the top barrel on the first pull and the bottom barrel on the second pull. If you pull the rear trigger, it fires the bottom barrel first and fires the top barrel on the second pull OR you can pull each trigger ONCE and fire the barrels in the sequence you choose, like a regular double trigger gun. In addition, the mechanism has no "inertia block". This means that if you fire the gun from your shoulder, in the normal manner, everything is OK. If you fire the gun "off the shoulder" or fire the gun from the hip, it will "double". Every time. Sort of a "bump fire" kind of thing. The two barrels fire so fast that it almost sounds like one shot. I have had this happen to me when using the gun for Sporting Clays. I call for a target and as I mount the gun, I pull the trigger before firmly getting the gun firmly into my shoulder "ba-bang!" I love the gun, it is a beautiful headturner, but I do not use it for Sporting Clays, except maybe some practice rounds where I "cheat" and mount the gun before calling for the target...it's practice so no one cares. It's choked a little tight for skeet (it measures out as "modified" and "improved modified"). It could be used for trap, but I find the trap "atmosphere" to be socially repulsive. Skeet shooters don't play well with trap shooters. 😏 The gun is beautifully made, very reminiscent of a Merkel. In the Czech fashion it is equipped with sling swivel studs in the buttstock and soldered to the lower barrel just in front of the forend. It is a sidelock. Heavily engraved. Turkish walnut, high grade wood, raised cheek piece with sculpted line. It has "skip line" checkering, which s not my favorite, but very common for the time in the region. It is one of three Czech made guns I bought while I was assigned to work in eastern Europe. The others are an Opava Ferdinand 16 ga. SxS in the finest "English best grade" fashion and a BRNO double rifle, U/O in 9.3x74R

[@garyK.45ACP]

@Art Anson Prior to the "Velvet Revolution" when Czech Republic and Slovakia split, many guns in Czechoslovakia were named after the city the factory or "armory"(zbrojovka) was located. Some were named after the inventor., Such as "Holek". The Holek Brothers were, basically, the "John Browning" of Czechoslovakia. Any gun you see with the "ZH" model designation is one of theirs. Vaclav Holek designed the ZB/ZH 26, which, when made at the factory in Enfield was better known as the "Bren" gun. This is how we get such "brand" names as "Praga" (Prague), "Brno", and "Opava". More recently, they have been more or less consolidated under the Ceska Zbrojovka name (CZ). Brno is now part of CZ. I do not know if guns are still being made under the "Opava" name. I do not think they were ever imported to the USA. Possibly some were prior to WW2. The only ones I have seen were "bring backs" from US servicemen or visitors. The one I have was made after WW2, probably in the 1950s. Opava is in Northeast Czech Republic on the Opava River and the border with Poland. I was in law enforcement for 37 years and 19 years as a US Federal Agent. I was assigned to work in eastern Europe for two assignments, a total of 7 years. My main office was in Warsaw, most of my work was in Poland, Ukraine and also Czech Republic and Slovakia. When I had holidays I loved to travel around Europe, and CZ Republic was my favorite! Czech Republic has some of the most lenient gun laws in Europe, they issue concealed carry permits to virtually any law abiding citizen on a "shall issue" basis. Shooting and hunting are popular sports. Oddly enough, the 16 ga. is the most common shotgun gauge. 12 ga is probably 2nd. Many of the better stocked gun dealers have import contacts in the USA and will ship firearms for you to an importer (an FFL with a class 8 license). They welcome US citizen tourists! They will then send it to your chosen local dealer. Yes, there are some fees, but the prices at that time were so low that even after paying import duty and fees the price was far below what those guns would sell for in the USA.

[@davidbrennan5]

I have an older 12 gauge SKB over/under Shotgun with chrome lined barrels. It has been an excellent Skeet gun. The multiple locking surfaces of the SKB action are every bit as strong as the Citori action and it has a lower profile receiver. It is a fine firearm and won't break the bank.

[@ralphlivingston762]

John Browning didn't invent the O/U, but his superposed shotgun was definitely a game changer. As was his style, it is an extremely complex design. That said, I have both the Citorie's and the original 101's in 410, 28, and 20 bores. They are great shotguns for the range and the field.

[@aaronbuckmaster7063]

I get a kick out of your more honest comments. “You figure it out.” “Money in another form.”

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Aaron : )

[@chikkenbonz]

Great info! Thanks so much!

[@craiglacount89]

I believe like so many Winchester older guns that the 101 was so superior to its peers that Winchester had to change in order to compete. I own some 101’s and 23’s and I’m always amazed at the quality of these guns. When I think about what these guns cost new in the 80’s and compare them to comparable guns of the same time I wonder why they weren’t double the price. The mechanical triggers have cost more than one rooster his life. When a bird gets up and you shoot it with one shot you naturally break the gun to reload but then another one jumps up, you quickly close the gun and pull the trigger twice and your second pull the gun goes off and the rooster falls. Can’t do this with an inertia system. The wood and design of the XTR series was phenomenal.

[@bennicolson815]

A great video! As well as the inertia trigger one of the other harmless quirks that can un-nerve the would be buyer or owner on the Miroku (and i believe some Brownings) is that the top pin can rest somewhat protruding when the action is open provoking fears of slam fires when closed. It turns out this isn't so but worth sharing lest anyone pass up a very satisfying gun to own over this misunderstanding. The other U/O general point for the novice is set your barrel selector to fire the bottom barrel first as that has a more inline recoil with less muzzle jump which is quicker to recover from for the second shot.

[@davidgendron1953]

As usually a wealth of knowledge!! Amazing!!

[@darthmusturd9526]

Couldn’t have come at a better time. Thinking about getting an over under

[@bigB6flyer]

The newer Browning 725s have mechanical triggers which is a nice feature so that in the very rare event of a misfire you don’t have to bump the receiver to get the second barrel to fire.

[@charlesmckinley29]

Why shouldn’t you shoot the .577 if it is in good condition!?! If it is in working order you won’t hurt it any by all means. Please enjoy what you have. Thank you for all your work you share with us.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Will do Charles - I loaded up some rounds and will head to the range or gravel pit asap. All the best to you.

[@kencorsell8087]

The Stevens 311c in 12ga was the first shotgun I ever bought when I was 16 in 1964!

[@franktaeterUSA]

Have a couple nice O/Us.. favorite is HK MaxLion made by Fabarms Italy. Shot mostly skeet & it has never failed or malfunctioned in any way over 1000s of rounds. A few years back I ordered a CZ Sterling O/U. Beautiful little gun at under $1,000. CZ is the best entry O/U in my opinion. The CZ Drake can be had for half that and is very much adequate...Greetings from MI!!

[@juancarlosbelletti6335]

Hermosisima escopeta (con todas las letras)creo que fue,el mejor modelo que hizo la Browning Yo tuve una y la Ame (disculpen el termino)pero uno le llega a tomar cariño cuando NUNCA LE DA UN PROBLEMA.MUY RECOMENDABLEEEE

[@rideswift]

If you can, Please include some details of Ithaca (SKB) O/U shot guns and maybe even a SxS. I have a few in my collection and think they are a well kept secret.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

These are diamonds - your guns - made by my good friends at SKB - as you note. These are without any doubt some of the finest guns ever made. You know, Japan and the Japanese are a magnificent people. Spend a couple of days over there; especially Hokkaido - and you'll know 🙏

[@danielleclare2938]

A review of the newer Turkish ones would be helpful. Looked them over at my local store seemed very well made good enough fit finish and not overly expensive...not Citori territory for sure.. I am an enthusiast not a competitive shooter so affordable fun is the objective with me.

[@danielleclare2938]

@vettelover2009 I just purchased a CZ 527 over the Ruger American in 7.62 x 39 because it is just so much nicer all steel everything worth the extra to me all day so I appreciate your comment will look into the CZ line I do not like aluminum on guns it is ok for trigger guards but prefer steel to any alloy I am old school that way.

[@oldschoolskater7687]

Take a look at the CZ drake.

[@oldad6207]

I've a Citori Plus Trap. Changing to the appropriate chokes, it was the best sporting clays gun I ever shot. I have a Citori Special Sporting with the appropriate stock for the game and the Plus model is so heavy it would seem to be no match but the recoil on the Plus model is so light, it is so much faster!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks for the note!

[@bobtrumpisongodssideandvic5156]

I HAVE A OVER & UNDER SAVAGE, 22 MAGNUM OVER 410. THE BALLANCE OF THE RIFFLE IS UNICK. GREAT TO SHOOT, NEVER MISS WITH IT, BARROW STAYS ON TARGET & DOESN'T WAVER OR STRAY FROM TARGOT. BY THE WAY I LIKE YOUR VIDEOS, I PREFER YOUR VIDEOS BECAUSE YOU A MORE LIKE THE COMMON MAN & YOU KNOW YOUR STUFF. GOD BLESS YOU & I HOPE YOU LIVE A LONG USEFULL LIFE. KEEP SAFE &I HOPE YOUR HOLLIDAYS ARE GREAT. MARRY CHRISTMAS.

[@HVACKABOOM]

Thanks for this, the OU has always been my favourite style of long gun, it favours endless gauge, calibre combinations and just looks amazing. If I may add? The Brno OU guns are at another level of complexity. :)

[@HVACKABOOM]

@Me. Me I had 12x12 with a rifle shotgun combo second set. My brother still has a 12x12, the sliding breech is a beauty to watch in action....pun intended. Let's see if I can post a pic of the breech on a message later today. They are great guns no question.

[@johnfoster3089]

Wonderful, informative. Learned a lot. Trapshot o/u for 25 yrs.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you John!

[@mikek8089]

I bought my first Citori way back in 1974, brand new for $319 lol. The second one I purchased new was in 1997, and payed $1000. Great O/U's! I don't know how true this is, but long ago, someone told me that the Remington 3200 was made for them by Krieghoff. Did you ever hear anything about that Mike?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Mike - I asked the Remington dealer and the 3200 was made at the Remington factory in the US. These are fantastic shotguns and had to be discontinued quickly to make room for inferior products. I'll make a video : )

[@fullchoke01]

Remington sold the rights to remington 32, krieghoff then improved it and it became a krieghoff design

[@bradknapp8841]

Great video, Mike!

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thank you Brad : )

[@DWhite-el4ih]

White powder might be chalk. Some people use powdered chalk to fill the line they scribe around the edge of the recoil pad when fitting it to the stock.

[@jamesmoon8947]

Well done THAT MAN

[@jeffreylocke8808]

The new 725 Feather has mechanically activated trigger action.

[@avocado9763]

Great show. I prefer the older made over and unders. The 101 and Miroku. Real strong quality. What model and time frame do you like for Miroku?

[@marklatzer5971]

Thank you very much

[@rogervandergriff1851]

I love my Stevens 555 in 16 ga

[@jeffreyyeater1780]

Great job . Lotta good info .

[@mdub1955]

I do not own an over/under. Have battled myself for several years on which way(s) to go with no conclusion. Now, with ammunition tighter these days, I have broken out my blackpowder pieces and have thoroughly enjoyed shooting them again after a couple decade break. As a result, I may very well pick up a nice old blackpowder 20ga O/U. A truly beautiful thing. Mike, have you tried your hand with that approach to shotguns? If so, what have you found in your experience?

[@nickfilopoulos7428]

Beautiful gun🎉

[@josephjenkins5304]

Always great videos

[@niteshsingh4691]

Sir excellent gun collection I am overwhelmed I have one 12 gage Loins and loins side by side short gun over family has it 1940

[@bradh6185]

What is a great budget 12ga or 20ga over under(less than $800) for shooting clays?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I'd buy a Baikal or any of the Italian O/U - plenty in the $400. range and they're wonderful.

[@bradh6185]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you!

[@tommyrodgers2911]

Do you know why Weatherby stopped making the Athena shotgun?

[@R32R38]

It would seem to be that there's an inherent drawback in the inertia system. If the first barrel fails to fire there's no chance of an immediate followup with the second barrel, and the bird will have flown away.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Very true

[@mungo7136]

Sure, but that is drawback of any semi-automatic or automatic weapon as well. Yet revolvers are now history for law enforcers and soldiers. And de-facto single action pistols have become very common design partly based also on reasoning that if round fails the 2nd attempt by trigger-pull is not likely to work. How often modern ammunition fails to fire. So yes, that flaw is there but in real world most likely not important. Otherwise semiautomatic shotguns could not be popular at all as they share this trait

[@R32R38]

@@mungo7136 I've never had a semiauto shotgun but I get the idea that their main appeal is recoil reduction, more so than the ability to get rapid followup shots.

[@mungo7136]

@@R32R38 Depending on country when used for hunting they advertise capacity (here comes country - somewhere it is limited for hunting purposes i.e. 2-3 rounds max.) and also shooting speed. I am quite interested whether the recoil is significantly reduced in case of semiauto shotguns. Anyway - of course when someone want absolute reliability than 2 singles merged into double SxS or O/U shotguns with separate locks and maybe even triggers is way to go. But as I said before - from more general point of view, people (I mean shooters, shooters-journalists) claim that reliability of the weapons is already for years not depended on reliability of the modern ammunition. So far I have not seen something denying it - that ammunition made by reloading or by respected factories has significant failure rate. Maybe somebody knows which system Olympic shooters use - whether mechanical or recoil operated trigger switch. Because for some types, failure to be able to fire the 2nd shot can mean loose of the podium. Thus reliability is very important.

[@ekim000]

Great stuff as usual. Thank you for these thoughtful and thought provoking presentations. I particularly like the fact that you appreciate the merits of a firearm despite, or perhaps in spite, of it's country of origin.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Thanks Mike!

[@erichuntter2437]

Interesting video on the O/U shotguns 👍, I've never got on with an o/u shotgun am more of a side by side man

[@avocado9763]

Thank you very much.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Most welcome Don

[@90vanman]

Hi, does anybody here own and use a Browning Cynergy? I have owned one for years, and shoot sporting and skeet every weekend here in the UK, but they seem to be a bit rare. I've seen and used the plastic version but they look a bit cheap. Dave

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Dave - Outstanding shotgun! I think the triggers are not inertia - which is a bonus - at least to me. You bought a great Browning.

[@joepic85]

I have a cynergy sythetic. Its amazing. Dont care to take care of wood but it shoots really good

[@jimf1964]

So if I understand correctly, the recoil ones are made that way because they're cheaper to make?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Jim - I was told it is to save complexity and parts as opposed to cost.

[@flintrichards945]

Thanks very interesting video I like SXS shotguns myself I have a Fox Sterlingworth that I love to hunt with or it’s pumps my youngest son is a over under shooter. I would like to find a nice 101 though.

[@PhilHewkin]

Have you ever seen an ITHACA lever action single shot 12 gauge shotgun? I saw one and I was baffled! A lever single! what were they thinking?

[@darthmusturd9526]

I’ve seen those, and I don’t mind them. I suppose it’s just easier to open than the way on top

[@PhilHewkin]

@@darthmusturd9526 Easier? It seems to me that the mechanical advantage of levering load/eject with the loop-lever system is near perfect for repeating arms. Have you had trouble manipulating a break action ANYTHING with the small release catch?

[@jimnaz5267]

the inertial system seem such a bad idea. if first shell fails, you are screwed. the only o/u i have is a soviet era baikel. never fails, two triggers. very heavy duty. thank for sharing your knowlege with us.

[@fullchoke01]

The inertia system itself is great design, if first shell fails to fire you can engage secind barrel by simply safety back switch barrel and forward. Any good shot can do that action half a second easily

[@cleanyourroom9668]

Off topic question but what makes a featherweight model 70 different than a regular model 70 and it says. Winchester brought back the pre 64 bolt on there website is that true?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Isaac - the barrel profile and length is the main difference. The FW has a sharp drop off right in front of the receiver to a slimmer barrel contour - reducing weight; and the stock design in the modern models is lighter for the FW as well.

[@cleanyourroom9668]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thank you so much as a young hunter I’d like to know as much as I can

[@avocado9763]

Outstanding presentation. Other then the usual gun sites Gun Broker, Guns America and Gun Broker, where can I buy a nice over under like the one's mentioned for a reasonable price?. Thanks

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Don, Thanks for the kind words. There are many boutique gun dealers : puglisiguns.cloudapp.net/ www.drake.net/ www.doublegunshop.com/ www.doublegun.com/ The last one lists a few. Although not all of these are on topic they are all interesting. Good Luck and Good Shooting!

[@fakrulyoe3856]

The best over under

[@larrysledgejr1423]

What's everyone's opinion on H&R pardner sb1 16ga single shot?

[@daneboro6847]

Awesome shotgun

[@larrysledgejr1423]

@@daneboro6847 i just recently got the h&r pardner sb1 and planning on shooting it within the next week.

[@marcoceccarelli6415]

Excellent rugged shotgun

[@larrysledgejr1423]

@@marcoceccarelli6415 good to know. Thank everyone for their views on the HR pardner.

[@daneboro6847]

@@larrysledgejr1423 it is not only great price, it will never let you down and generations after you can shoot it as well, all around best bang for the buck in my my opinion, congrats on the new gun, enjoy!

[@goe54]

After Webley & Scott went bankrupt, the new owner are making the shotguns in Turkey. I bought one o/u model 900G and the middle rib went loose after about 1000 rounds. Asked for new barrels, they refused. Offered to buy a new gun but at the production price( I offered70% of the retail price) they refused. Even their website, very superficial made, shows that they are not a serious manufacturer anymore.

[@pcolice]

Are you familiar with the Rottweil 650 O/U? I’ve had one for years that purchased while stationed in Germany. It has great wood and I shoot it well, but I have never been to assess their quality and reputation.

[@WotanBarnes]

Good video, as usual. I just recognized you have no Video about Nosler rifles. Do you own one of these?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Wotan - sadly ....no. I hope to find one at a reasonable price. People don't seem to sell theirs very often.

[@wdcjunk]

So while I may be getting all sorts of flak for this, but I'd like to see what you think of the cheap turkish over/unders like you might find on that site that brokers guns? The shotguns you showed today are all fine firearms for sure, but for the most part, way out of what I want to spend. Do you have any experience with those?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi wdc c - Thanks for the note and question. I've owned 2 Turkish O/U shotguns and both were excellent. I'll make a video with my .410 Made in Turkey. Astonishing value and performance. Hope this helps.

[@jobygochoco2731]

can we see the Snider in action???

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Hi Joven - For sure - I'll make a video.

[@c.j.rogers2422]

Perhaps you address this in another video, I'll have to search. I'd love to hear your views on Red Labels.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Very fine shotguns - the 20 gauge handles especially well.

[@seanmatthews2082]

Love the smell of it

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

They say our strongest sense is smell. When I was a kid I lived by the ocean - and then I was away from it for many years - and then I returned. I can't express how meaningful the smell of the ocean was on that return. Burning powder is like that. : )

[@seanmatthews2082]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns nothing better than old leather slings mixed with cosmoline/ gun oil milsurp smell

[@franks3509]

Could just be talc for lubricity.

[@c.j.rogers2422]

Honest, officer, that's what it is!

[@BroChallengeDK]

What model miroku is that?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

That's a Miroku Trap model. Here is more information www.leeroysramblings.com/Gun%20Articles/Miroku_O-U_shotguns.html

[@fullchoke01]

Thats a winchester 96 xpert, action/trigger etc same as a 101. But has the nikko designed ejectors(sprung loaded) 101s have sprung loaded kickers in fore end. I love my 101s and their brothers. Put most guns on todays maket to shame

[@patrickcrowe1611]

i like my browing

[@johnseropyan]

Sir what model and year Winchester 101 would you recommend

[@bryanporter3920]

My 101 wont open. any idea why?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Yes - I had this happen with O/U and break open shotguns. Take off the forend - and with the wood forend off - move the thumb lever to the right - and try to tip the barrels off - if they don't fall off into your hand - keep holding the lever heavily to the right and tap the end of the barrel with a piece of wood or rubber mallet. Don't dent the barrels or the ventilated rib. If the barrels still don't fall off spray any release oil or WD40 into the front of the action - which will be open because the wood forend will be off. That should loosen the lock. If no luck - write me again. Best of luck!

[@bryanporter3920]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thank you so much I look forward to trying this I just got the gun today I sprayed it with oil letting it set over night will try your advice thank you so much.

[@bryanporter3920]

I tried your advice it seemed to loosen up slightly but still a no go. I added more oil in hopes to try it again later on today. Other wise the firearm looks to be in amazing shape not sure of the age

[@bryanporter3920]

To top lever won’t move much at all even with the forend off.

[@bryanporter3920]

@UnitedStatesOfGuns I tried it multiple times still a no go

[@tonylipton4068]

Beautiful guns! You’re blessed. Only in America, people can do it freely. Wish laws can be amended, individual is allowed to buy legal guns & cartridges; even it’s used & very old guns would be treated as precious by people in Asia. Shotgun is popular in the world, but I’ve never seen such a strict restricted on civil guns, even shotgun happen in a democratic area called Taiwan 🇹🇼, maybe the strictest in the world. Taiwan’s 🇹🇼people think if there’s open, the sun rise will be coming up in the west. It’s impossible to be allowed forever. Especially, Taiwan’s 🇹🇼government made a lot of auto rifles, even teenagers have to get military training & do real shooting, boys & girls students know how to use auto rifles; everyone who is able to do rifle shooting have to do national defense at all, their extreme goal is all people are soldiers. Unfortunately, Taiwan’s individual is not allowed to buy legal civil guns for shooting or hunting; people are getting weak; also government promote sightseeing & delicious foods; Taiwan’s people always like delicious foods, they are working, eating, drinking or doing something nonsense or illegal, somebody is getting degenerated & weak, many people are getting fatter and fatter, I doubt many people are so fat, weak, how can be soldiers?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Interesting comment Tony! People ought to enjoy all aspects of freedom.

[@tonylipton4068]

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you very much. Your encouragement is very precious. But it won’t come true in the visible future. The most of Taiwan’s 🇹🇼people don’t have concept of shotgun, just few people have chance to touch shotgun. Millions individual people are eager to buy legal shotgun at first, it’s the minimum request, but they got denied by government at all, absolutely no! no! no! prohibited for more than half century. Government always said once people have civil guns, they may topple government; sniping officials; killing others & affecting society security; hunting is prohibited, so people don’t need shotgun, also government doesn’t like people own shotguns, so prohibited hunting. The extreme goal is no civil guns, no civil shooting, no civil defense, no hunting; people just be quiet, easily to be ruled. Anyone got ruling power, always want to keep ruling power at all. So laws are still same as martial law implemented period, even everything is getting tightening day by day, getting dictatorial & totalitarian day by day. Many people are depressed about buying & owning civil guns, they said it’s stricter than some communism countries. Moreover, there’re cameras in streets here & there, many people very like to use mobile phone or car camera or any kinds of cameras to take pictures of others, put those pictures to network or police stations; they don’t care about privacy; NO PRIVACY, ( BE CAREFULLY) ; also government encourages people to take pictures & lay bare something illegal and grant bonus, so there’re many people don’t do anything, they do laying bare something to be job, they got bonus may be more than normal wages than others. It’s a very strange thing in Taiwan 🇹🇼. Anyone who comes to Taiwan 🇹🇼, must be carefully, many “eyes” are looking at you, many “ears” are standing by; many Taiwan’s people are very like to detect others & lay bare others’ private things or secret. It’s very strange, somebody got conflicting for each other. Also due to many strict laws & people’s laying bare, many police officers stand by (1% of population are police officers), if you come to Taiwan 🇹🇼, may ignore something, get arrested easily. Handcuffs are always stand by, put in jail or fined or both, some article shows huge amounts fined, maybe get bankrupted. BE CAREFULLY! The Taiwan’s 🇹🇼government always want to keep tidy & beautiful environment for developing sightseeing; but Taiwan’s 🇹🇼people’s are getting changed, they are not so pure, naive, beautiful as the past, they are getting fight for something, even a little smaller thing, would be resulted to be fighting or killing; even people who have mental illness are getting more & more. It’s different from the past. Up to now, I don’t know what’s going on with Taiwan’s 🇹🇼island.

[@tonylipton4068]

In Taiwan🇹🇼, around half century ago, the old government settled very strict restrictions on guns, cartridges & knife, might be the strictest restricted in the world. The old government official said don’t touch knives & guns, just singing, singing is good; so many KTV those singing places were opened, those places might include something sexual; but unfortunately, some people got there to sing & drink, or did something sexual, they were drunk or conflicted with others, or due to women then got fighting; so many accidents happened, including killing or something illegal. Now, the new government still prohibited guns, cartridges, knives & hunting as same way, but promoting sightseeing & delicious foods, thus Taiwan’s🇹🇼 people are easily to get foods and eating too much, many people got fatter & illness; some people are very fat, others would tease them and call them “fat pigs”.

[@c.j.rogers2422]

I'll bet the criminals have plenty of guns!

[@clockworkbike]

What was the Russian gun?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Russian Tula 12 gauge - built for generations.

[@svernwarunos546]

Over under shotguns are the work of evil, sxs all the way baby.

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

I love that.

[@johnshoureas1629]

Please turn down your intro music.

[@petrotmyrcz308]

It's extremely loud, but I just hit the mute button until Mike appears in the studio.

[@Dwyer88]

Do you have an email to reach you at I can’t seem to find it?

[@UnitedStatesOfGuns]

Try [e-mail]