Mother Series Explained

I had a funny idea for a description but i forgot what it was supposed to be.
/ chasekip
Maybe the joke is that I still link my twitter despite being too nervous to post on it.
Music and backgrounds taken from Earthbound Beginnings, Earthbound, and Mother 3.

[@thisrandomdude2880]

"Eventually, Porky stopped thinking"

[@Flamme506]

Porky - retired - will floate in Space forever

[@mr.sunshine9295]

Is this a jojo reference!

[@pink_moose991]

Hmm... a Jojo meme I see... great!

[@memeboy8207]

unfortunatly, he didn't

[@JACE77707]

An excellent response

[@TacBans]

Mother 1: save the world Mother 2: Defeat Evil Mother 3: try not to cry

[@ProjectEchoshadow]

The advertisement for mother 1 gave a warning we did not heed No tears until the end

[@helpmedosomethingwithmylif4697]

Mother 3: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJTCi5R5fLaJZ6s

[@spiko7]

@@helpmedosomethingwithmylif4697 is this a self promotion?

[@just_a_goose]

@@spiko7 I don’t think so

[@seek5146]

Mother 4: die

[@bloopertanooki415]

Mother 1: No more random encounters please Mother 2: No more auto replenishes please Mother 3: No more depression please

[@mattgroening8872]

The nuclear reactor robot replenished a fuel supply!

[@superdean9966]

@@mattgroening8872 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@somethingtheoneandonly]

The Black Antoid tried PSI Lifeup α! The Black Antoid'S HP were maxed out!

[@mmmmmonke7432]

​@@somethingtheoneandonly😢😢please stop

[@eiadithecoder620]

as a young human being with VERY dark thoughts, mother 3 is not the game for me unless i wanna be depressed

[@stanable9716]

Pokey in EarthBound: A menace to society Pokey in Mother 3: *G E N O C I D E*

[@deidrecullum5754]

Undertale disbelief

[@lucaslehrhaupt4473]

Shut up Deidre Cullum@

[@justafan9206]

@@deidrecullum5754 earthbound disbelief.

[@giygasthedevilalien5995]

Ness💀/Sans💀: SON OF B*TCH!!

[@PiereLovesRed7316]

Flowey be like AWWW WHAT THE F*** I SHOULD BE THE ON TO COMMENCE GENOCIDE

[@taterbacon2026]

Mother and earthbound: haha look at these weird and quirky enemies and interesting plotline! Mother 3: joy is a falsehood and has never existed.

[@spongebobpopsiclecultmembe9561]

...

[@cheeseboi4217]

so what you’re trying to say is: Mother 1 and 2: A kid walking down the street Mother 3: That kid but grown up and with a gun in hand right?

[@EvilAwoken]

EaRtH bOuNd Is TwO wOrDs

[@mcihay246]

@ige77 There's a theory that the Nowhere Islands were the Magicant of the Dragon. Knowing that there are Pink Shell houses of the Magypsies, and that the world ceases to exist once the Dragon awakens. Letting those that were inside forced out into the real world. But... It's only a theory after all.

[@jenniferpruitt6534]

There is a fan translation of Mother 3 available online as a ROM to play for emulators.

[@joshmosh4190]

"Dadder" is the best thing I've heard all week

[@TsukumoYatsuhashi]

Oh yes dadder~

[@mr.manmccheese7240]

@@TsukumoYatsuhashi No

[@Joemame]

@@TsukumoYatsuhashi ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@blayeg8716]

Sye stop it

[@bryantr.9824]

Ah yes, my favorite RPG trilogy, Momer.

[@ReReCoil]

"Name a character that went thru more pain than her, i'll wait..." Mother Fans:

[@RedBlaze45]

Undertale fans: OST #15

[@stanstanstan2597]

@@RedBlaze45 I’m thinking closer to Memory or Hopes and Dreams(/SAVE the World), but that works too

[@RedBlaze45]

@@stanstanstan2597 Ah, I see a man of culture as well

[@mrboerger1620]

Then there's omori. Like damn.

[@stanstanstan2597]

@@mrboerger1620 No spoilies, been wanting to play it since release

[@hamstreak5591]

*"So, it's Giygas?"* _"No, it's Geigue. He's younger & is bound to a mortal, physical form. He's also not pure evil_ *Yet,* _due to the lingering love of his mother, Maria, left in his heart."_ *"That just sounds like Giygas but with extra steps."*

[@urotaion9879]

More like Giygas is Gigue but with _more_ steps

[@jeffreygao3956]

Mewtwo! Stop that mad brute!

[@burgerwitnohoneymustard131]

“Mary was originally Maria” Shadow would like to: _know your location_

[@BrickmanZero]

Technically Mary translated into spanish is Maria so...

[@harmoniouscacophony379]

*Dr. Robotnik has left the chat* ...or, has he just joined the chat? Hm.

[@TatsubeiYagyu]

Very nice, I made that connection too. It's interesting how sorta influential Mother is in ways, yet it is so weirdly distributed

[@ShadowSaberBaroxio]

At least it ain't Martha... Batman: *WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?*

[@wut939]

shadow is neat ngl

[@GeorgGreat_GameReviews]

You thought "Ness" was a bit on the nose, huh? How about freaking Ninten?

[@rossman8919]

cant wait for swit in mother 4

[@Immadeus]

What about Lucas, it's a anagram for Claus.

[@CyanicCore]

Supposedly the names are derived from a book

[@thememehead]

Or mt. ITOI

[@laylatimaybe]

Do

[@austinmorrison6953]

First game, you stop the evil alien by triggering memories of his dear mother. Second game, you stop the alien with the power of prayer Third game, you’re broken.

[@busk-e963]

Ahem,MEMORIES BROKEN

[@Raidon484]

​@@busk-e963THE TRUTH GOES UNSPOKEN

[@busk-e963]

OVE EVEN FORGOTTEN MY NAAAAME@@Raidon484

[@coolestcartoonist7425]

The ending says how the characters will stay alive within the game and cannot be truly killed. Their story ends with you the player.

[@RoosterPuff]

You ever think Porky just floats around in space like "I hate everyone of my life choices."

[@faultf4]

I like to think instead of falling to insanity, his mind is just filled with profanity and vulgarness

[@crack4184]

@@faultf4 "God, fucking damn it... What the fuck did I just do!?! Should have brought my Gameboy but I fucking didn't!"

[@ilovethelight777]

@@crack4184 Halloween Hack's version of Andonuts would like to have a word with you.

[@crack4184]

@@ilovethelight777 Yes?

[@jamelbunny5732]

Eventually porky stopped thinking

[@kribyy7784]

The absolutely safe capsule is one of the most horrifying things I've ever heard about.

[@ballisticboo7808]

Honestly yeah. It's still very good in Smash though.

[@bakrobertjohnston4889]

Same

[@iiiivvvv9986]

Magenta magenta

[@ruller8901]

i would rather die than get into that thing. being stuck in requiem infinite death would at least be different everytime you die but this is just something no one wants

[@maglev957]

The only reason Porky is in there for eternity is because his funky time travel shenanigans made him immortal. Any human would die after like 3 days from dehydration.

[@WoodlandDrake]

Phone dad is best dad... absent, but still supportive and genuinely cares for Ness even though he can do nothing but send him free money.

[@cristiangomezmontt6248]

Fun fact: Shigesato Itoi was casted in the movie "My Neighbor Totoro". He voiced Tatsuko, the father of Satsuki and Mei

[@maniacaal]

Boney should've been the one to pull the needles. The dragon would've been chilling.

[@zombies4evadude24]

He doesn’t have PSI powers unfortunately

[@hylbertvonmayhem6562]

@@zombies4evadude24 Kumatora does and she can't. It's not about the PSI powers it's about if you're part of the few chosen ones.

[@keithflippers4429]

Boney is kinda done with everyone's sh- the day he was born

[@slowpokewithadream9990]

@@zombies4evadude24 the reason Lucas got into smash is because boney would be to powerful yes sakiri said boney was considered

[@glimmerstantroop46321]

So true

[@TristanLackey]

Mother: Somewhat silly but has good morals Earthbound: A story about corruption and faith Mother 3: And everyone died! The end.

[@oasissharp]

the game is harsh but thats what makes it so great, its brutally honest and because of that it really evokes emotions in oneself

[@jayneb6053]

@@oasissharp But imagine seeing this as a kid with no concept of any of those.

[@narcikat8096]

WHY DOES MOTHER 3 HAVE TO BE SO SAD! also, lucas is depressed because all his family members other then his pet dog died. RATED KA FOR KIDS TO ADULT

[@twilightvulpine]

@@narcikat8096 Rated KA for Kill All

[@HydraTeemo]

Except Porky! Porky's still alive!

[@getaround1]

Earth bound would make a great show or anime or whatever. The story has aged pretty well but not many people even know this series exists and so they never get to hear this tragic tail. I think a show of some sorts would be an amazing way to tell the story and I can already picture the last final scenes with everyone watching just balling their eyes out lol.

[@ceej5690]

there actually is a earthbound Manga. it's neat

[@getaround1]

@@ceej5690 that sounds dope, gonna have to check it out

[@Fireemblemest]

I wish

[@user-yr8pv9jw1s]

Bro shinji and Lucas feel the exact same bruh 💀

[@jeffreygao3956]

If not Ghibli then, Ponoc aka The New Hope can make it!

[@Ryan_Wiseman]

Ah yes, the perfect game to market to children; one where everyone dies. You gotta instill that existential dread into children at an early age somehow

[@jcthehedgehog4828]

“Mary is actually Maria.-“ Shadow: *”M A R I A. ! ?”*

[@gormauslander]

Flashbacks to realtime fan dubs

[@dictatorvert2491]

"Is this what you wanted...?"

[@jasperreyes7357]

Both Marias live in space Maria is Maria Robotnik confirmed

[@wildfire9280]

MariaMariaMariaMariaMariaMariamariamairiamaaAriaMariaMariamariaMAAAAAAARIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAAA

[@kairimegurine]

And then everything explodes

[@koil_koil]

I just realized that Claus is an anagram for Lucas.

[@Logplank]

Oh my god... you're right!

[@Sturben-qn7ph]

Good job

[@ericamorales3354]

Lucas is Santa lol

[@cabracadabra_4256]

Nah, Lucas is an anagram for Claus

[@koil_koil]

@@cabracadabra_4256 damn, you’re right.

[@Hi-Im-Gib]

I guess it does make sense, your mother died, your dad peaced out, and the only family you have left just killed themselves right in front of you... It's completely understandable for a young boy to hate the world after going through that, that's why when he told the dragon his feelings, the dragon destroyed the world, which is just what Lucas really wanted at that point in time

[@tinyz7575]

But deep inside a small part of him wanted the world to be safe, giving the ending to think about what may have happened.

[@orangejoe2147]

If there’s no care for spoilers, he completely skipped the part where your dad dives in front of a non lightning attack from claus and is majorly damaged, saving you

[@weeble4749]

That's not what the ending of Mother 3 is at all.

[@SoelSofiaEloise]

Yeah, because in the end everyone "survived", implying that they are alive and that the world was probably reincarnated.

[@matthewhoulihan7243]

Yeah I think Lucas did want to destroy the world ,but also to save everyone give them a second chance so that's what happened

[@h-man7620]

Mother 1: Pretty good RPG Mother 2: Very good RPG with good story. and fun gameplay Mother 3: WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL IS GOING ON

[@supergamerboydx9158]

The first two Mother games: Pretty upbeat until the freaky alien boss at the end. Mother 3: DEPRESSING AS HELL!!!

[@dra9onl3oy]

Yes, the alien boss was freaky. Not sure if it was already mentioned, but the boss battle (5:00) showed creepy ghost-like faces PLUS the hidden silhouettes of a fetus. I didn't notice this the first time I played it but read about it many years later. I forgot what the fetus meant or symbolizes in the story.

[@TheNintendoNerd-wd7bv]

The fans says the fight against Giygas is actually an “abortion”, but this was deconfirmed.

[@pulsar2049]

1: a happy tale about a few children learning PSI and defending earth from gyiyg 2: a darker but still lighthearted tale of a group of teens going to 8 mystical locations and killing gyiyg/giygas 3: A heartbreaking story of a boy whose mother and brother who are dead. and having to fight against his killers and having to fight with his own twin brother.

[@milesgaunt6767]

yall ignoring when Poo had his limbs ripped off and eyes gouged out by a ghost?

[@jacobj6099]

Miles Gaunt yeah I was kinda freaked out by that and kept thinking “Is this still Poo or his ancestral spirit?” throughout the whole game.

[@thokko691]

How you gonna call Ness' dad a deadbeat when Ness got 86,342 dollars in the bank because of him

[@donaldlarrimoreIII]

It's because his dad gives him a lot of money but never give him enough "time of day." Other than phone calls & listening ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@issyyourboo2848]

@@donaldlarrimoreIII "phone calls and listening" I'd say that's giving him the time of day

[@trayvordemonslayer]

Im assuming it was Yen, so more like 863 dollars?

[@donaldlarrimoreIII]

@@issyyourboo2848 I meant rather "in-person time of day," but that still counts. His father does care; he's just watching from a long distance. *I wonder if he works for the C.I.A.?*

[@k-leb4671]

@@trayvordemonslayer Yeah, stuff's really expensive in the Mother games so I'm pretty sure the prices were based on Yen rather than dollars, even though two of them have very American settings.

[@belindaallman5319]

i just realized how much Earthbound beginnings inspired so much for shadow the hedgehog's backstory like Maria the mother = Maria the child Giygas = Shadow the hedgehog George the scientist = George Robotnik

[@Tymere_GT_Anims]

*Gerald

[@midnightarcanacentraltv5815]

But let’s not forget, Giegue was also the basis for Mewtwo

[@snowy016]

@@midnightarcanacentraltv5815 really?

[@gaganpreetsaini8504]

Shadow cannot be giygas since giygas is pure evil and shadow isnt and also for mewtwo but The story of giegue , shadow and mewtwo can be the same since giegue is not pure evil because, Shadow was not evil too because of Maria and Mewtwo was not evil because of Amber . So yeah it's somewhat relatable ( but only in the case of giegue)

[@KumatorasLittleCutie-Pie]

​@gaganpreetsaini8504 Shadow isn't pure evil? He tried to blow up the planet in Adventure 2. And tried to conquer the universe... twice. (SonicX / Shadow the Hedgehog)

[@NolenSanders]

I like to interpret that the ending of Mother 3 is pretty much as true neutral as it can get. My interpretation is that since Claus, being under the influence of Porky (or even furthermore, Giygas, the literal embodiment of evil itself), when he pulled the 3 needles that he did, that was of course enough to cause a cataclysmic apocalypse for the whole world, but when Lucas pulled out his 4 needles, that was enough to save everyone's souls, but they would pretty much all live in a true purgatory; although since of course Lucas pulled one extra needle in the end result, everyone can go on "living their lives" as normal.

[@Rosaloffler]

My interpretation is that the Dragon destroyed every possible influence of the chimeras. The logo is an amalgamation of organic wood and synthetic metal, hinting at the deeds of the pigmasks. After the credits, the logo is shown again, but this time it's only made out of wood, with the globe for an O, similar to Earthbound Beginnings. The dragon reconstructed the whole world to its good, organic state. The only thing it couldn't destroy is Porky and his Absolutely Safe Capsule, thats why you can still talk to him when the screen is all black. The Pigmasks are completely destroyed, but all the good guys that were alive before Lucas pulled the needle are still alive and well. As for the black screen, I have only vague ideas. The Mother games are known for interacting with the player directly, like having one pray during the Giygas Battle. Maybe it's the game's way of saying "Your time in the game world is now over, you need to go, goodbye!" The characters of the game even say goodbye to the player after all. It may sound silly, but hey, it's a Mother game

[@ped3752]

When you notice Pokemon wasn't released at that time so it's Mewtwo that looks like Giegue.

[@cullbear55]

Yep. Some of APE's staff became Creatures Inc.

[@bakrobertjohnston4889]

OH

[@monokuma.enoshima2841]

*confused screaming*

[@Kyumifun]

No, no, he's got a point

[@mr.monotone1908]

Ninten:lets sing Ness:heh I don't speak at all Lucas:really depressed since 2006

[@hulCAWmanianUniverse]

smash bro's announcer: and the winner is... ness: mmm?

[@mr.monotone1908]

@Ur Money Lol ... what

[@mr.monotone1908]

@Ur Money Lol im confused more on, where the hell do I say Lucas doesnt, talk.

[@mr.monotone1908]

@Ur Money Lol oh its fine.

[@nobodycares4321]

Man that end scene in Earthbound where it says the players name prays for the party, dude that hit me so hard as a kid I literally teared up

[@ashtonwilaby]

Mother 1/EarthBound Beginnings: STOP THE RANDOM ENCOUNTERS! Mother 2/EarthBound: STOP GIVING ME NIGHTMARES! Mother 3: STOP MAKING ME CRY!

[@InsomniaDaydreamer]

claus coulda eaten a baguette and survived ya know

[@Onyx_Dizz]

or just a m tomato

[@Mr3DLC]

Light yagami coulda eaten a potato chip:P

[@InsomniaDaydreamer]

@@Mr3DLC ʸᵒᵘ ᶜᵒᵘˡᵈ'ᵛᵉ ᵃᵗᵉ ᶜʸᵃⁿᶦᵈᵉ ᶦᶜᵉ

[@BurnedNoodle]

@@Onyx_Dizz thats good

[@hylbertvonmayhem6562]

I know right ? At the end I was like "Use some of your healing magic !". But the ending wouldn't have been that effective, right ? 😉

[@dylantherunner5841]

Huh, so that's what Lucas pulls when he wins in smash bros. Wait, so if he wins the whole world ends?

[@garfreeek]

Guess who gets his stamina reduced first!... :O

[@diegoandresbaldelomarpinto8367]

Just like in the game!

[@matrixorialold]

@Lucas what's with heaven bro? I'm in the next universe. Only 1000000 era's ahead. I guess you were from the past eh?

[@tylercoon1791]

It’s also his up-smash

[@-FLETCH-]

Pretty much

[@sonicobama6679]

My theory to the ending of Earthbound: Lucas was a good enough person to the point where when he pulled the final needle, he saved the world instead of ending it, and everybody was okay.

[@weirdlyalive1579]

"Yes his name is Poo, don't laugh!" Me: *laughs even though I knew that already*

[@nessfrommother2147]

Finally, someone knows me as more than just "pK fIrE"

[@bernafolkers520]

Psi rockin

[@derpthederp9100]

PK Fire!

[@katzgames771]

*Okay*

[@dontknow7754]

Get out of smash

[@RandomMoonChildAlt]

I know your pain

[@Isaac_646]

Mother: fighting vengeful alien Earthbound: fighting evil messed up alien Mother 3: fighting thousand year old child dictator

[@winterwolf9323]

And crying. So much crying.

[@JBoxy7]

Flint didnt leave town. He visits hinawa's grave every day and searches for Lucas in the forest and mountains which are very close to town. Everybody still talks about him like they saw him the day before. He neglects him but he didnt abandon him.

[@annariver2729]

Which one's worst?

[@PIB2000]

What I love most about the Mother series is how once you dig past the strange and quirky exterior, you find deep and complicated story.

[@averagechapstick]

Mother 3 is one of the saddest games ever made. Now to end this with a sparrow-like chirp chirp!

[@sphearix7232]

I didn’t realize Mother 3 was so dark. Like, Lucas had to go through his mother dying and after nearly escaping death his brother ran away causing his dad to start looking for him leaving Lucas to fend for himself. And then he has to watch his brother kill himself, wow.

[@geoffreygoncalves931]

When everyone is talking about Breath of the wild, I'm always like b#tch please, Lucas and Samus had it way worse with a lot more trauma to go with it.

[@snowy016]

@@geoffreygoncalves931 I mean throughout the games, reincarnated link has gone through alot

[@lunanote-cassettemeower]

I bet Lucas would get along well with Zuko

[@ahabduennschitz7670]

@@geoffreygoncalves931 Breath of the wild.... dude, are you serious? This is probably the dumbest comparison ever made

[@cloudycat5535]

Not only watching his brother commit suicide, he also (unwillingly) *help* the brother kill himself

[@DiscountWhiskey078]

Even with this telling being as casual it is, the Mother 3 ending still makes me tear up

[@queazy03]

4:39 - the "Rorschach" background, when paused at a certain time, looks like a human fetus. The "intestines" stage is essentially a vagina & a cervix. You went back in time to kill Giygas when he was a fetus, when he was the most vulnerable, before he was evil. Not sure about this part, but I gotta share it. People take this a step further with rumors that the lines Giygas says are supposed to be lines from a victim during rape. People guess that's what the lines are about because Itoi admitted it was influenced from a traumatic experience he had as a child when he witnessed a rape scene in a movie (the movie was called The Military Policeman and the Dismembered Beauty). The "You cannot comprehend the true form of Giygas' attack" wasn't because Giygas was evil, because here in the past he's just a fetus trying to defend himself, pleading that we can be friends. Pocky calls him pure evil, but Pocky always lies. About Mother 3, I've seen some people suggest you're already in heaven at the beginning of the game, the end of the world has already happened. The faithful have been taken on the "white ship" to the island where there is no suffering or war. But what's the most crazy is Mother 3's references to the Biblical book of Revelations, where Satan is described as a sleeping dragon (like the one under the island) and 7 seals (like 7 needles) that if opened start the Apocolypse...which is essentially what happens in the game.

[@jenniferpruitt6534]

I have heard this theory before about fighting Giygas as a fetus. I don't buy it at all.

[@user-zg5hc8mi1i]

Guigas is fetus theory just doesn't work out for me. More like he took a dark path to gain immense dark power to finally get rid of his 8 melodies and love for Maria weaknesses once and for all, became a fallen godlike creature and imploded upon using all the power of darkness he had, only to be in primitive pain, fear and agony, fighting as desperately as wounded cornered animal with all the reflexes and instincts left against everything he encounters, that isn't under his control. In one of fight's "musical" themes , if to reverse it , it will say "I'm so sorry" multiple times, seems like his mind almost left his body from all the messed up stuff his power did to him and all mind that's left mostly unable to say anything because of agony, probably meaning he can't tell this directly anymore, so all he can do is to try with all his mind can do to apologize, even if party can't hear what he actually says, just hear something creepy sounding like a voice. Whatever he says to Ness is probably PSI power , he has more control over, but his state not allowing him to say anything reasonable, only express feelings.

[@user-zg5hc8mi1i]

Guigas taking a shape of a fetus could be true though as long as you don't overcomplicate it. Could just be asking for pity defence mechanism. Could be his weakness hiding within creepy red siluets, well protected by them. Could be to add even more shock to the players who see and recognize a fetus among all the madness and scary things happening. It's open to interpretation, and the right interpretation for you should probably shock you the most to match perfectly with the ideas behind this boss fight.

[@m3rc3b0ss8]

I save your life in 3 seconds Just turn upside Giygas's final form *You're welcome*

[@chaincat33]

The fetus was an unintentional result of Giygas's sprite being made to loop on itself. The scene Itoi walked in on was a dismemberment scene, not a rape scene. I never heard his full version of the story, so I could believe that he may have believed it was a rape scene. Regardless, Giygas' fight is meant to be representative of the loss of innocence, which is what that traumatic experience did to Itoi. Giygas basically is the concept of corruption, which is why his lines are so confusing. "f r i e n d s" "I f e e l g o o d" "I t h u r t s" it's this unnerving idea of extreme pain being pleasure. Sadomasochism isn't exactly something the mind of a child is built to comprehend, but when they're forced to understand it, among many other things, innocence assuredly dies, and corruption starts to take root.

[@christiankirbo]

Mother 1: Life’s great I’m destined to defeat an alien with a song. Mother 2: Life’s great I’m destined to defeat the literal embodiment of chaos Mother 3: Everyone died and i woke a dragon by pulling out 7 needles

[@jeffreygao3956]

So...what's up for Mother 4?

[@feynman6756]

It was kinda easy to predict who the Masked Man was. He's kid-sized, and who's the one kid in the game who happens to be conveniently missing?

[@Bawhoppen]

Though, in fairness, this was a game for kids. Kids are usually less familiar with writing cliches like than adults are, since they've absorbed a lot less media overall.

[@magneticbirds]

@@Bawhoppen Mother 3 wasn’t aimed at kids in the first place, though

[@kirbywithnicehair3927]

Pretty sure the game expects you to know that

[@baaaldur]

it's not supposed to be a shocking or unexpected reveal. most players will figure it out immediately and the rest piece it together as the game goes on. the presence of the masked man throughout the game is not characterized by mystery or intrigue but rather a sort of unspoken consensus on who it is and a reluctance to confront a very painful truth. the lack of explicit confirmation of his identity is not to preserve a surprising revelation but rather to delay the inevitable. it's not that no one knows, it's that no one wants to talk about it. the party members do not indicate that they are clueless as to who he is, but they do seem very reluctant to bring it up. the topic is rarely mentioned and one of the only things kumatora has to say about it is "that masked man... is he? nevermind. it doesn't matter". as for lucas, the visual distortions and surreal music during masked man encounters seem to indicate that on some level he knows who he is. when the truth finally is revealed, it's pretty notably downplayed. brief confirmation, mostly to cap off flint's character and to set up the final encounter. certainly not presented like an earth-shattering moment. you could compare this to the extremely dramatic revelation of hinawa's death, which *is* supposed to be shocking.

[@novacorponline]

It's pretty much a rule in general, if there is a missing character and a masked person, the missing person has like an 80% chance of being the masked person

[@SeventeenGhost]

"You can't grasp the true form of Giygas' attack" I played it on an emulator, and after DAYS of that boss fight, I decided to look up how to use cheats because I was being killed constantly, no matter how much damage I made. After that didn't work out either, I decided the game was either broken, or I was supposed to do something specific, like with Poo's meditation being interrupted (it took me a while to realize I was supposed to keep meditating), so I started to try everything. Finally I found out I had to pray. I loaded the savestate from earlier in the fight (the one I was playing was a couple of hours throwing shit at Giygas without success), and finished it in a blink because I also overleveled myself like there's no tomorrow.

[@wingedangel1674]

Mother 3 is a masterpiece so gutted they still haven't released it out of Japan :( That part were porky locks himself in that capsule really freaked me out I still think about it years after playing it :')

[@link113gaming]

there is actually a translated rom hack that you can download and play on a gba emulator...

[@wingedangel1674]

@@link113gaming That's the one I played on the emulator but I would love to have a physical copy of it !! 😁

[@trinketbird]

Mother: fight against aliens! Earthbound: fight against aliens! Mother. 3: fight against capitalism.

[@creditsunknown7974]

And death!

[@Eric_Perna]

and depression

[@deltadreamer1647]

This went from being mother 3 to being persona 3 real fast

[@pikminman13]

excessive materialism, not capitalism

[@chodad1381]

truly the industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[@alexbluecyndaquil]

First game: never played it Second game: I had a blast. It was witty, funny and dark. Third game: I had to contact a surgeon who removed the lacrimal glands (tear glands) from my eyes because of how sad the game is Edit: I don’t like this comment

[@avinput]

Alex BlueCyndaquil play mother then it’s pretty good for an nes rpg, it is a bit grindy tho

[@KipBlade]

@@avinput you can get the easy ring mod or use fast forward like i did

[@canisgoeswoof5009]

You can still use PK Flash, my friend.

[@moviefilmstudios9828]

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like people exaggerate how "sad" Mother 3 is. Like, a lot of this stuff happens in your typical anime. But I digress, feel how you want to feel.

[@namesaretuff]

Someone posted your comment on r/iamverysmart

[@jakish1308]

I know Mother 3 gets a lot of love, but honestly Mother 1 is my favorite. Maybe it's the relatively simple story, or the American setting but it just hits all the right notes for me.

[@truttlebear7999]

I actually owned one of the gaming magazines that had those advertisements. The smell was bad enough to nearly make me hurl.

[@mr.sunshine9295]

Keep in mind that the story of mother 3 was much darker in the n64 version, but changed in the final release in the gba

[@n3squ1ksarchive25]

What was it on n64?

[@ceej5690]

@@n3squ1ksarchive25 Mother 64. The original version of mother 3. Never ended up coming out though.

[@pkmarie04]

Nesquick If it interests you, there is some gameplay footage of the unreleased mother 64 beta floating around on KZbin

[@Edgeperor]

It’s definitely a good thing that it was on the GBA instead of the N64

[@ShinyRedUmbreon]

For those wondering about the “darker” part, one example is that based on Porky’s unused sprites in Mother 3(meaning it could have happened in the N64 version too), Porky might have died, instead of being trapped in the capsule.

[@cloverslaurel7235]

"No crying until the end" is impossible to follow when the sad Mother 3 music plays.

[@chuckleberry2142]

Gotta love how every final boss in the series is beaten in an unconventional way. With singing, prayer, and... brotherly love, I guess?

[@andistansbury4366]

7:32 ah yes DADDER

[@e_puffin]

I literally cried at the additional ending scene when (I think) Lucas said: "It looks like things will work out here, but what about your world? Will it be alright?" "Hey, other world. Be good to (player)!" It hits different considering what has happened this year.

[@Kyumifun]

Oof

[@j.d.4241]

Yes, I just couldn't stop crying while I read this part. I was diagnosed with major depression back in my youth and was forced to take a suspension 'cause I have suicidal thoughts and was acting it out at school. I was like super defensive and merely cry even I'm depressed, but man.

[@Bernardoribei]

@@j.d.4241 I hope you are better now 🥰

[@marikonematics3380]

yes

[@parkersmith8711]

@@j.d.4241 Hope things are better

[@Crossmanpretzel]

"Mary was actually Maria..." In my restless dreams, I see that town... Silent Hill.

[@thundergaming155]

*silent hill theme plays*

[@elicary26]

7:29 i hadn't laughed so loudly at a joke in a long time

[@jackson4672]

"No crying until the end" -Mother 1 Advertisement.

[@yokoonoatyoutube4899]

Mainline Shin Megami Tensei is an amazing series with lots of overarching lore. I'd love to see it done in this artstyle.

[@joeljames2683]

Justin Langman Going over Shin Megami Tensei is a great idea, especially after how depressing the Mother games are. It would be a much needed source of feel good enjoyment.

[@VincentEternal]

I can’t wait for him to explain how Dante was hanging out with Demifiend in smt 3

[@rossman8919]

the timeline of smt is crazy weird and will probably take too much work and time, here's a small example the female protagonist from "smt if" reappears in persona 1 and 2 and then i think in persona 2 an alternate universe is created in between both persona 2s (yes there are 2 persona 2s) and then the rest of the persona series happens, also smt soul hackers happens somewhere after p1 im not sure and the male protagonist of smt if gets manga series sequel or something

[@pierrebegley2746]

Oh great. Here come the Persona fans sticking their games where they don't belong again.

[@emerald_a_op4400]

Your at 69.

[@lahar2412]

"what's next for 2020?" *"i Magican't say."*

[@Silver_Red4248]

Ha.👏Ha.👏

[@TheBreezeMan954]

LoL

[@5.ky1a]

I’m going to say that everyone is alive in the end of Mother 3 just to make me feel better.

[@pitioti]

11:27: God damn it, the amount of drama in this serie!

[@datman6882]

Come on Reggie, give us mo- wait, he isn’t In charge anymore? I miss him. Even if Bowser is good, I miss Reggie

[@jamesdobson1802]

Me too

[@outtaideas849]

Strange thing. Bowser is good

[@user-tu2kt7ih9i]

@@outtaideas849 The new Nintendo America President's name is Doug Bowser

[@Ravenirity]

Come on Bowser, give us Mother 3!

[@liwo8998]

Doug Bowser: no mother 3 Mother / Earthbound Fans: SO LONG GAY BOWSER!

[@LilacMonarch]

PSA for anyone who doesn't know: the english version of Mother 3 at the end of the video is a fan translated version. It's technically piracy but that's nintendo's fault for not giving us any other option. Go download it and play it!

[@patricklewis9787]

Honestly it seems like Nintendo doesn't even want to Touch M🌏ther 3 so I'd say it's fine

[@Guilherme-sy4pi]

@BIRTHDAYFACE046 Mother 3 has a lot of controversial themes, such as the magypsies being gay stereotypes and the animal cruelty with the chimeras. That's probably why they won't realese it, it's too controversial.

[@c-gcoconutgun2577]

Guilherme the magypsies aren’t gay stereotypes, they actually represent a Japanese culture that celebrates over-the-top femininity, which is apparently too much for us sensitive baby Americans to handle

[@Guilherme-sy4pi]

@@c-gcoconutgun2577 Interesting. Still, people might think they are gay stereotypes, even though they actually don't have sexuality.

[@FunnyStory77]

Well I'm glad I'm in Europe.

[@Batlord_Carcas]

I was so ignorant in my early 90s childhood that I entitle overlooked Earthbound, remembered the game yet didn't ever get to play, and Ness appearing in Super Smash Brothers sparked my interest, yet didn't get to play anything Mother or Earthbound until 2023! For real it was due to bad marketing and there had been a long term where I had no ownership of any consoles, games etc bc the Gamer market been so expensive always to where even barely having a handful of games on any console at one time

[@RealColbalt]

Mother 1: A game about Giygas's backstory Mother 2: A game about Giygas becoming disturbing and pure evil and having another boy saving the whole world again Mother 3: A game about depression and Pokey's (or Porky's) return

[@wanderer1385]

I wish there was a "Mother"cartoon series like Adventure Time.

[@usernametaken017]

Can't wait to see claus die before the final episode, that destroys everything

[@meepmayhem5119]

Ye

[@josephivenegas]

I misread that as "Adventures of Tin-Tin" and never have I felt so happy-yet-confused.

[@wildfire9280]

@@josephivenegas The Adventures of Tiny Box -Tim- Tin-Tin

[@goldenhydreigon4727]

Giygas: *[has a mother complex]* Sephiroth: First time?

[@chucklesmcbuckles8407]

I’m going through all this channels videos don’t stop making them! Also old school games like this are more interesting than new school. Back when you actually had to read to “understand” the game you were playing

[@SBaby]

8:20 - Yeah, Mother 3 has ALOT of references to the Book of Revelation. The Happy Boxes are a clear allegory for the Mark of the Beast.

[@4kumatora]

Holy cow! I never knew that. That makes a lot of sense

[@noskalborg723]

Speaking of... Soon Babylon will fall. The end is near, so repent so you may come to Zion. You see Isaiah's prophecies being fulfilled already: Isaiah 28: 15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves: 16 ¶ Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. 17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place. 18 ¶ And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

[@pkgamer3551]

@@noskalborg723 Wow thats amazing i didn't realise that goodjob!

[@noskalborg723]

@@pkgamer3551 not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures?lang=eng I failed to identify my faith in my first comment.

[@thebiolibrary5572]

Noskal Borg again, nobody cares

[@jordancevenini8155]

Something absolutely amazing would be having a full Bayonetta series explanation. Would love that (mostly cuz i didnt understand absolutely nothing about it)

[@wrex1285]

Same i played Bayonetta 1 to the end and had no fuckin idea what just happened lmao xD but i still loved it

[@force528]

Time travel is confusing. The end of Bayonetta 2 just turned everything upside down.🤯

[@KipBlade]

@@force528 if you want to learn about the lore ask ur mum

[@elloraapril8514]

But if you didn't understand absolutely nothing.. Then that would mean you understand absolutely something about it?

[@supahmario5409]

Instant age restriction tho

[@bumble5286]

This is the video that got me into the Mother series. Thank you!

[@ChaseKip]

I'm so glad!

[@joaopedrosa8090]

0:04 "But when night falls and he's all by himself he would do what every other lonely mand does... play RPG'' that killed me xd

[@otterlystrange2963]

The text on the thumbnail makes this look like a FF7 summary.

[@PitXRoxas]

Otterly Strange can we not talk about ff7- FFXI

[@otterlystrange2963]

Why?

[@PitXRoxas]

Otterly Strange watch the FFXI video, and you'll understand

[@PitXRoxas]

*IX

[@Empy_C.]

STOP

[@johnegbertfromworldfree7137]

4:44 i love how porky is just standing there.

[@HeyJinx]

Homestuck

[@FFKonoko]

It's not entirely inaccurate.

[@wildfire9280]

Menacingly?

[@designate_om]

Traveling to 8 sanctuaries to unlock psychic potential doesn't sound insane when you realize it's just an on-the-nose metaphor for the eightfold path and Buddhist enlightenment. It's a gameplay pun

[@nazumi012]

at the end of earthbound when fighting giygas i had pretty much used all my resources, and ness was running low on pp. unfortunately paula's "Pray" rng has screwed me over so many times i didn't think to use it and had to look up a guide on how to beat giygas lmao also, great video. i've watched this a few times now, really entertaining and a good summary of the game.

[@nextto1x742]

Me: *Shields* Ness: So you have chosen DEATH *throws Mr Saturn*

[@dustinvanish]

So every time he pulls that thing out in Smash... *THAT'S WHAT HE'S DOING?!!?*

[@luckysayshmm]

Yep, that animation is he pulling the dragon needles

[@OhBeEye]

Second video! Doin' great thus far! Thanks for your hard work.

[@IBigDickI]

"A quirky and funny, yet depressing bizarre scientific fantasy journey with themes about mother nature vs technology, parental love and loss, coming of age and capitalism vs communism with interdimensional time and space travel" would describe the mother franchise pretty well. Also Dancing Monkeys

[@jonathannelson1812]

Wait, that ain't Miyamoto. It's Sakurai, the man who put Steve in Smash.

[@loley975]

Steve is in smash? Oh right yeah they did that

[@user-ck5is2pg9y]

steve jobs is relatable.

[@opticbrickz9564]

Aaaaaand Sora

[@jonathannelson1812]

@@opticbrickz9564 can't forget that

[@toeJams]

Rasis

[@pichelwilder]

I still got little tears in my eyes while you talked about the end of Mother 3 I finished the game for the first time in 2018 and that scene STILL GETS TO ME

[@TheZiiFamily]

10:08 that’s what the spider capsule in smash bro’s was?! (I was like 8 when I played it and nothing made sense and the capsule thing scared me) thinking about it I didn’t know what Pokémon was then ether but I now know that green flying snake boss was rayquaza!

[@alexforte8473]

I played Mother for the first time a few months ago, and I honestly did not pick up on nearly ANY of those story beats. This was very helpful!

[@mezel-masri1255]

“As is the case with our young hero Lucas, who decides he’s done with all that sh**”

[@JMartini810]

I love Lucas' victory be pulling a needle

[@phantomspaceman]

I bought Earthbound new and loved it, including the bizarre scratch-and-sniff section. I was a weird kid though. I wound up with all the games that didn't sell well like Secret of Mana, Super Metroid and Yoshi's Island.

[@frannymak]

That "whoops" @ 3:30 had me cracking up for some reason. Haha

[@eiadithecoder620]

Well he said "Mother 2 was already in production for the SNES And released just a few years later for the SNES" He misspoke and meant "Mother 2 was already in production for the Super Famicom (the Japanese SNES) And released just a few years later for the SNES"

[@ImPyroChad]

Imagine this dude trying to explain the ENTIRETY of the Shin Megami Tensei timeline, oof

[@paperluigi6132]

He should start small with Persona while he figures out how to do mainline SMT.

[@tallspoon0224]

there are also devil survivor, devil summoner, raiden etc. excuse me, I feel sorry I played mother 3 in my childhood. I also have been impressed and hope to be released outside Japan too, it's great game.

[@paulahynick]

z0z Zz0zz x 0 .z

[@domotron3598]

Hey wait a minute, did a Nintendo game just not have a happy ending?

[@ryanred1525]

I see you are a man of culture sk is a really good gameb

[@domotron3598]

@@ryanred1525 indeed

[@Ummmmm12712]

Mother 3 :literally comes out Patrick Star explaining the game:E V E R Y O N E D I E S

[@darkpit456]

But you know what, putting by Ness and Lucas into Smash bros Ultimate Sakurai has resurrected these characters from the dead. So Ness and Lucas are back for round 2.

[@ludrawsyt9346]

I remember when I first fought Claus- I was like TIME TO BEAT SOME SENSE INTO HIM, tho Lucas couldn't bring himself to attack and I was forced to watch depression

[@mq8858]

Mother 2: *Exists* Mother 1: Am I a joke to you?

[@cullbear55]

Ness: "Can I copy your homework?" Ninten: "Sure, just change it up a little bit so no one's suspicious."

[@soni-switch5270]

@@cullbear55 Ness: *No*

[@ijustslamonthekeyboardandm6476]

I loved this so much, but you made it… sorta vague? There are so many things you could have talked about, like Lloyd’s Superman figurine, MOTHER taking place in 1988, the fact that Ninten and Ana wanted to _bang each oth_ - I mean what?, the cervix conspiracy and how Itoi debunked it, naked Ness, Mt. Itoi’s stupid difficulty, and more enlightening things about Mother 3? Like how Leder tells you EVERYTHING, the Egg being in a golem, Locria being Fassad, Salsa the monkey’s girlfriend, the aesthetically beautiful Chap. 6, and most importantly how the the O in the logo changed from the steel marble to The Blue Marble in the end. That last one meant everything.

[@daviddar3166]

This is a super well done video, amazing job

[@reckufrehtom5999]

I see someone skimmed through Leder's exposition dump

[@bettymccloud9203]

Yeah I assumed the white ship was the white dragon from the church