Moto News: KTM's New 390 Adventures, Best 450s, 2025 Updates From Honda & Enfield!

[@someonethere5440]

Bought Himalayan in autumn 2024 , good machine, installed wrs tall windshield, wind problem is noticeable before it, engine very economical, pretty powerful , central stand is very good for diy service

[@DouglasRosser]

At least here in the US, dealers have a large inventory of the current 390 Adv in stock. Going to be even harder to move when the new R arrives. Maybe that’s why the X is delayed.

[@nicolasdelabassetiere8829]

Great video and appreciate the new 30min+ completele overview! 2 points to mention from this content : - I think you've missed the new Suzuki DRZ, which is the one I'm most waiting for as a lightweight adventure and offroad bike. - My ideal bike setup, following many tests and having owned various ones from different categories (Ducati Scrambler, Triumph T120, Honda ATAS), I've realised that a sports tourer, like the Yamaha Tracer GT+ that I'm getting, along with a lightweight offroader is perfect. If it's to go for a one-bike garage, I would go for a mid-adv bike like the Toureg 660. All the best!

[@alvarosolis7837]

For the small adventure bike competitors you forgot the new Suzuki DR-Z4S

[@andersd8041]

KTM needs to fix the old bikes before concentrating on the new ones...

[@sangeethsuresh9320]

In India the triumph speed 400 and scrambler 400 are selling well ever since both bikes were launched.

[@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel]

Good video Rob

[@motobob]

Thanks mate! 🍻

[@kawkaw20]

​@@motobobThere is now an all new 250 adventure on the KTM india website😅pls cover that scoop, no one it seems saw that coming

[@dw1168]

The F450GS and Aprilia 457 sound like a dream if they can keep the price reasonable, but wait till KTM brings a 490, WANT, NEED, MUST have lol

[@AwwsmGaurav]

I wonder when new Goldwing will be unveiled, seems like they're planning a big updates. I didn't know theres a Motobob clips channel too, i came across that when i searched about new goldwing.

[@beer3029]

The only KTM's I would consider buying, mainly because you won't lose so much money when you sell it.

[@richardgorman5696]

Love the long format.

[@motobob]

Thanks RG! 🍻

[@AgricUltra]

Choppy throttle on the 450MT is sorted with a map update via the phone app. Interestingly, here in Australia, it is more expensive than the Himi.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

DR-Z4S is just over 50 lb less weight than the 390 Adv R. Still no published price on the Suzuki.

[@SamuraiDanny]

Drz4s competition is enduro r not the adventure r

[@donwilliams5064]

Love to see 550cc to 600cc Tenere or Transalp ready for some dirt.

[@bradhollywood8305]

KTM definitely. Got an older 390 Adventure so looking forward to the new one.

[@petewatson9866]

The way big 1L+ adv bikes are popular is because they are comfortable to ride, and 99% of them only go off a kerb rather than off road

[@terryomara9403]

Suzuki 450👍

[@CSK_Forever_shorts]

In india because of limited reach and awairness among normal people, triumph is selling in moderate numbers 2.5K per month each.

[@fredrik999z]

I don't understand the low exhaust pipe so close the rear wheel. Is that not going to be a problem when riding in dirt and water?

[@lionelemata7433]

The thing I love about my 890 is it rides like my 500…except when I have to pick it up. If they came up with a 490 twin in the 290 lbs range, I’m in.

[@petewatson9866]

Will Honda add the CRF450L to the UK?

[@Fiatmannen1]

Still waiting for the kawi kle 450/500

[@yashnichani7348]

I can imagine how good a norden version of this could look!

[@taylormad3AZ]

Definitely interested in new 450gs but for the money the 390 enduro r has my vote!

[@VelkePivo]

Whoever thought a huge ADV was the way to go for off-road riding must’ve never ridden anything off-road, including a mountain bike. And if you’re not riding your adv off-road you’re a poser. Get a tourer.

[@neodurden6793]

Most of these posers should indeed be on a Tracer09. They would have a proper road bike that still can go on gravel path 1 time a year like any other motorcycle 😂

[@ahumblerequest5222]

Lmao, I agree, anything more then 170+ KG is not good for Off-road

[@er404]

The dudes in ktm promo are killing it! 😅😂

[@tylertoole3058]

I'm definitely waiting a year to see these new bikes. I'm really into that KTM 390, the cf moto 450, and I'm really curious what comes of that bmw 450. I'll let everyone else be the test subjects lol

[@kevinlayne6946]

Thanks, Moto Bob. I enjoy your and subscribe to your channel. I recently sold 2017 Honda Africa, twin too big heavy and tall. I’m getting older and enjoy and bought 2024 Triumph 400 scrambler X , I preferred it over the 400 speed for minimal off-road soft riding in the more aggressive look and feel I really enjoy my scrambler 400 X added it to my collection of a 1200 speed twin 2023 Baja orange and an old 07 Harley Road King, which is more of a vintage Sunday rider. Thanks for your interesting articles and videos.

[@Hkmmotologs]

Here in India they released a slightly different spec 390 adv, instead of R, we get 390 adv S version. difference is 17/21 wheel size instead of 18/21, slightly reduced suspension travel and ground clearance but not significant because of the wheel size . 835mm seat height instead of 870mm. also it's tubeless spoke wheels similar to that of 890Advs and rest are same, and X is same as international variant but will be available here along with the S variant because it's manufactured here. KTM said R will be launched here too but only later in the year

[@SMOKE-hermit]

Wait, is that true? R will be launched in India? 🥺

[@Hkmmotologs]

@@SMOKE-hermit that's what i heard but you don't need it only difference is rear wheel size and seat height. suspension travel and ground clearance difference is not that much

[@ScootScoot125]

​​@@Hkmmotologs hey isn't the suspension travel on the R a lot more than the standard one? It has more adjustability options too if I remember it right. Edit:- he says that in the video aswell, commented before watching the whole thing

[@scram36]

In India, they launched an "Adventure" variant instead of R. Gets tubeless spoke wheels and all electronic riding aids from R, but the suspension travel from X. Ground clearance right at the center.. 230mm. Fuel tank capacity is a big disappointment though, was expecting to be 17 liters minimum.

[@JayWillow-u2s]

I remember talk of potential cruise control and quick shifter on the KTM. No reference of either now it seems! What a shame.

[@matthatter93]

Wasn’t the new KTM supposed to have cruise control???? What happened to that????

[@Whatreally123]

Here in India we have an S version announced which is the R version but shorter seat height. The R is not slated to release as of now. The S version will have to compete with the Himalayan 450 and it'll come down to price. I am sort of torn between them. I am thinking of getting the Him 450 for my touring and get an Enduro R for my weekend offroad trail needs.

[@MotoRiderTube]

You didn't leave the link to vote on the Indian customs.

[@francoisklopper]

Suzuki DRZ 4S?

[@josephreisinger33]

Hondas v3 concept doesn't have a turbo silly Bob. It will have an electric super charger up by the steering neck.

[@ThomasSperow]

Aprilia 450 Turage!!! Yes!!

[@beborodner930]

LOVE this class of bikes. Tired of lugging my 500lb 'middle'weight bike on the trails.

[@SPMiller]

Yes I agree 100%. Lighter bikes are the way to go. 450 500s all day long. Tired of looking for a place to turn around with the heavy bikes. They need to stop making these motorcycles so tall most of the time they're just driven on the street anyway. Honda CRF 300 LS. Perfect bike. Just need more horsepower. It's that simple.

[@scooble]

16:41 ....oh yes....this old trick again! Last time it was another KLR650 (still with the dodgy doohicky)

[@burddog0792]

I'd love to see Kawasaki and Honda bore out the KLX/CRF 300s, and a new WR would be awesome too. Damn the A2 license, give us a 350-400cc, 310lb/140kg kerb weight dual sport.

[@victorshteinberg6042]

Why didn't you include the Honda CL500 exactly in the category with all its variants.

[@mammadjafarzade7687]

Suzuki DRZ ?

[@carni6319]

A return to simplicity is what I'm hoping for. All the advanced ride control features are under utilized or unnecessary IMO. I just don't see the cost benefit. The 390 Enduro? Just get the 500EXCF/FE501. They're like 100 lbs lighter. (but twice the price, I know)

[@pawelwolski1316]

If this R model was available a year or two ago, if KTM had less mechanical issues........maybe yes. I got the 450mt, 380 usd titanium exhaust (very nice quality) shipped with tuned ecu, woke up the bike and got rid of the on/off idle fueling. Some protection and racks (from Uncle Wangs as the exhaust) for very reasonable prices, how can one go wrong?

[@pepedafrog6951]

From a 90hp one I will trade one horse power for every kilogram of weight savings all the way down to 40-45hp. We do not need more for 90% of the stuff we most do, given we want to venture off road. Slow becomes fast and less is more in the end.

[@AgricUltra]

The KLE will likely get the 451 out of the Eliminator, rather than the Ninja.

[@axellness]

what are the oil-change intervals on this 390R engine?

[@DayumSonny]

Every 7,500 km (4,650 mi).

[@TimothyGreen-ko2vm]

I love all the competition in the 450 class. Light is right, the best mid-light weight ADV bike up until no was the Suzuki DR650 for value. The Dakar has a limit of 450 cc and I think includes twins, wouldn't it be great to have a 450 Superstock style class for these ADV bikes.

[@burddog0792]

Dakar rules are 450cc singles, but it would be awesome if there was a new class for road derived 450cc twins (just as cars have T1 prototype and T2 modified road, SxS have prototype T3 and showroom SxS T4). Aprillia could basically enter that 457, CF Moto could come as bikes and SxS, and BMW/Yamaha could be enticed to return (Yamaha also has their SxS).

[@NoName-c4y7h]

Are they known to be reliable?

[@JohannesSebastian]

6:20 Are you kidding? Yes we need the pure enduro version. It's cheaper and better. It should be NO NEWS to you big expensive bikes are the enemy of all riders. What team are you on? :)

[@syed_4138]

If we could possible install panniers and some tank bang in the new 390 adv it would give a tough competition to the himalayan in india.. cuz indians like touring a lot and ktm would be preferred over RE at least by the younger gen folks..

[@Trackandshield]

Speed 400 sells around 1500-2000 bikes every month..

[@xpllmmff]

If taken to serious off-road terrian, the biggest disadvantage of KTM390 definetly would be its torque. You have to twist thottle at skyrocket 7700RPM reaches max torque of 40NM, which is easily achieved at mere 2500RPM by KLR650 and other 650 thumpers.

[@Jagknorr]

I sat on a tenere and thought that felt huge for offroad 😂 so the 1000+’s just seem ridiculous to me for off roading. Give em to me light! And cheap!

[@stevieneilson2451]

Sub 500cc simple bikes will be the norm going forward as the highway speeds are being lowered all around us and the added economy....

[@12chops12]

Can't wait to trade my 450mt for the 390 enduro r

[@Dan-56]

Does anyone other than me look at the CF Moto 450 MT engine and see the KTM abandoned 490 project from a few years back, you know, the one that was going to be built in China🤔?!

[@ReQuiem_2099]

I think it makes a lot of sense to identify where these bike segments excel, and target that. ADVs will never be as good or as easy to manage off-road as a dual-sport or dedicated dirt bike. No matter how small or light they get. So while the lightweight ADVs are great, they'll never compete off-road with a dual-sport. Their best bet is to become as light as possible, while still providing enough protection, power, and luggage support for touring as they can. While also being significantly cheaper than middleweights. Their audience will ultimately be commuters, adventure cosplayers, and aspiring off-roaders that aren't committed enough to just get a dual-sport yet. Or live far from trails and need something they can take on the highway. Middleweight ADVs are the natural endgame for legitimate explorers that want a bike they can travel the world with, but still have enough off-road capability to leave the road. Large ADVs have become the overgrown SUVs of the motorcycle world, while pretending to be the Jeeps. They have literally outgrown their primary purpose. If what you want is every creature comfort, while cruising along at a decent pace, enjoying the high, upright seating position of an ADV, congratulations. You're the soccer mom that traded the station wagon for the Suburban. Ultimately, no one wants the MOST anything. They want a personalized mix of many things like off-road capability, on-road civility, some tech and creature comforts, some basic luggage capacity, some performance, all in an affordable package. For most, that will be a lightweight or middleweight ADV, depending on their wallet and bias between off-road and on-road.

[@seanys]

Heh! @22:00 a motorcycle painted to appeal to toddlers.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

I think the safe bet is the one from CFmoto with colours and features to make most happy without any financial problems.

[@660thunther]

One of the things that KTM needs to do is to stop being obsessed with the colour orange! if they offered other colours I'm sure they would get more customers, i personally like their bikes BUT the orange is 🤮 to me

[@kignacio]

All Japanese manufacturers should take not as well. Honda will offer Europe 4 colors and USA Red only. Focus groups must have confirmed that Americans don’t like choices and Europeans do.

[@PDCRed]

Couldn't agree more.

[@cyasi]

I think that applies to all brands who are religious with their brand color. I bought a Kawai-and not a green one. I’d never buy a green motorcycle. Or pretty much anything green.

[@stevenbatley8666]

Total agree,absolutely horrible.

[@verlinswarey507]

I pretty much agree! But I do think the ones that have a lot of white on them ,like this new adv r,look pretty good.

[@BetoxSound]

why every single review of the 450GS fails to point out the wheel size?.... even here at the start of the video you mention that the KTM 390X will be the more road focus becaue the wheel size compared to the R model, (same when mentioning the Honda).. yet when talking about hte BMW its all about how off-road weapon will be (same with every other youtuber), yet that bike has 19/17 wheels.... like why no-one ever mentions that BMW kinda fail to put a 21/18 wheel combo in order to make it more offroad bias as msot people want it to be (and BMW market it as)

[@akuskus]

Yeah, that should be like the first thing to point out.

[@RandomParrot]

Looks like he is wearing a turbin!

[@romroger]

I dont understand why they made the 390 Enduro R. Its heavier than the 690 Enduro...

[@KLE300]

Can you guess which KLE I have?

[@robertstuck3214]

I love the 390 platform but I bet you won’t see any of this until late 2025 or into 2026.

[@LeighannAnderson-k1o]

It’s a bit of a gamble with any KTM, would not have one.

[@BIGGIEsmalls13]

Boy with hat collates specs....such talent. Always reminds me of clichéd estate agents. 'PropertyBob', watch this space.

[@michaeltodd5782]

Wouldn’t you just get a heavily discounted 390 adv instead of the 390 adv x?

[@alangordon3283]

Is KTM a busted flush now.

[@joeloutofoffice]

It feels like Motobob’s voice is a bit more toned down in this video-he doesn’t sound as enthusiastic as usual. Or is it just me? 😬

[@SarvanDhadhich]

Tvs is also making an adventure bike of 300cc

[@jasgsxr2726]

Why build a 390 adventure before a 690 adventure 🤔 that sounds like something Japan would do. Suzuki DRZ 400 adventure, of course not, we leave that to the aftermarket😊

[@gilbyseventy5]

Ktm looks good, just avoid river crossings.....Why on earth have KTM chosen this style of exhaust on this style of bike?

cf moto 450 mt. specifically because I can only have one motorcycle, so 95% of the time will be city riding... and big bikes in the city... suckx

[@quacktac]

I love the look of the Adventure R, it might be a bit too heavy for me to learn off road riding though. They’re going to sell a ton of them definitely.

[@mtn2008]

Too heavy. All they needed to do was put an engine with bigger service schedule into a current model

[@ogasi1798]

cold hard fact: if you think any of the current 450 bikes can compete with the new ktm you are deluded, none of them will stand a chance if you have any serious interest in off road riding. Weight, pedigree, knowledge, style, spec and i bet performance will ALL GO TO THE ORANGE BIKE, the ktm are even competitive on cost - win win.

[@joebloggs1583]

Shame KTM doesn’t spend money building there bikes properly instead of paying people to ride like idiots on them👍

[@Fr99763]

Advertizng going freely through nature with all your noise and destruction of the soil? Ktm have you lost it? Do you want motorcycling prohbited for good?

[@akuskus]

Must be a landowner or a friend with one. In my country at least, where all offroad is unfortunately illegal.

[@user-pp5or5og4k]

It should have been the KTM 690 Adventure R. The 390 Adventure R is way too heavy 385lbs!! Wet! It might do well in the European market with the licensing requirements. But it will not sell in the USA because it's overpriced overweight and underpowered.

[@stephenbryson5618]

I have to say KTM does nothing for me why orange? And the head light on the other models look ugly….. thay have learned nothing and don’t listen to customers

[@logangodofcandy]

KTM is broke and sitting on like 100k unsold bikes, and you wonder why they aren't making tons of new bikes

[@max.fleming1045]

Just for the record, those custom Indians were horrible 🤮 vanity projects. If Donald trump rode a bike ?. As for the others I'm personally waiting for the BMW F450 GS. I expect it to be the most expensive in class, but still a bargain compared to anything larger.

[@SomewhereInside]

175kg wet is still too heavy for serious off road use for solo riders . CRF300 Rally is still the king for those who do more off road , and are willing to cruise at legal speeds.

[@jaffabaffa]

Why doesn't KTM release a 690 Adventure R. So, basically a 690 Enduro R, but with a rally tower and top fairing as standard. Also, why would anyone buy a new 390 Adventure X over a used 390 Adventure. The former bike looks so stupid with the cast wheels...

[@neodurden6793]

You can slap a rally tower for 2,5k€

[@moopt7339]

Camshaft on new KTM... Will it die?

[@alm4132]

No one is talking about the bike Kawasaki teased at Motorcycle Live(?) Rumor has it powered by the 451 twin from the Ninja 500. KLE 450 anyone?