2020 Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports: DCT Or Manual Gearbox?

[@Gregs_World]

one of the things that is rarely brought up: as people get older especially in the computer-based society of today more and more folks have carpal tunnel syndrome and other medical conditions which make the constant use of a clutch painful or at least a bit difficult the DCT allows older riders to be more comfortable on bikes of any size and therefore allows them to enjoy two wheeled travel to a much older age people rarely talk about it but it certainly is something I have experienced myself it is worth mentioning here

[@motobob]

A good point Greg! I'll pin for others to see

[@Gregs_World]

@@motobob it really is a weird thing that my left wrist feels better muscling around of Gold Wing that has DCT than a bike weighing half as much what has a clutch lever which requires quite a bit of strength... and we have to remember that people her getting symptoms of these issues in the race at a younger and younger age because of the universal use of a computer mouse and the cell phone, etc. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to reply

[@RedLine0069]

@MOTOBOB there is a optional electric gearshift lever to change gears with your foot if u want.

[@rafaswierczynski]

I'm 45 (old?) I've tested NC700 with DCT - suxx, VRF1200 DCT - suxx... CRF1000 DCT.... I NEED DCT!... Now, as owner of ATAS 2018 DCT i just bought lever for manual changing gears if needed. I love my DCT on it. Lazy ride... auto... need fun... manual + lever (better then use buttons). I wanted DCT on AT. Still love my TDM on manual, still CAN drive manual. BUT DCT make my lazy riding just easier :) And cannot stall engine off-road :) (yes, i'm weak off-road rider :D)

[@Alexis-b9d8s]

Que música fea

[@MrG61-u9k]

Having had an early CRF1000 DCT for four years I traded to a base model manual at the start of this year, less than 1000 miles later I traded it to go back to DCT, so much more fun for me, great video 👍

[@indifrunfenisheguen]

I needed this comment. I just sold my 2019 DCT and put down a deposit for a AT AS ES DCT and the guy calls me back and says: sorry, is manual, want to keep the deposit down? I said yes, but hesitant. I don't think I can go back to MANUAL after riding 2 years DCT. thank you!

[@JGKohlenberg]

I’ve been riding the 2018 AT Adventure for a year with DCT and love it. The thing I’ve found is Tour / D mode is just that, a relaxed low rpm mode for highway touring. Any twisty road should have the bike in one of the 3 Sport modes. Shifting up and down is precise and quicker than I could do manually as it takes into account braking and throttle position. In hard driving corners you’d be hard pressed to shift as quickly especially on maximum braking into a corner. The DCT keeps the engine in the power band quite nicely. As a side note I’ve found in general all around driving the gas mileage is as good in sport mode as tour mode, 50 mpg, consistently. The low speed throttle control is excellent at walking speeds and in heavy stop and go traffic you’ll consider yourself a genius for picking the DCT version ;)

[@franky3467]

Did 2 testrides A Twin with DCT and was not convinced, in D it felt not right for me. Then after so many positive reviews I gave it another try (but read before how to operate it), with using drive modes and the S option it was now new experience. Bought a 2018 model with DCT and traded KTM 1190 Adventure in. Did not regret it one day. High comfort on tour, slow riding and turns. No stress in traffic and enough fun if it needs to go quick! Greetings from Germany to all UK 🇬🇧 riders 👍

[@AlbertoFigaroa]

My personal advice with this bike; DCT. I hesitated a lot, but I went for the DCT. Took me two weeks to get used to. But now I am, it’s such a great pleasure. As a matter of taste, I drive in S. The sporty feeling and perfect acceleration makes it a great driving experience. I own my brand new 1100CRF AS ES DCT for two months now, and it’s a beast. Don’t hesitate, unless you solely going to use this bike for of-road situations. In that case, I would go for the smaller version anyway.

[@indifrunfenisheguen]

"I own my brand new 1100 CRF AS ES DCT" I hate you LOL🤣🤣 I sold my 2019 DCT and can't find a 2022 AS ES DCT. dang it!

[@joernlindstaedt7731]

The DCT works great for me... on the road I use a combination of touring mode in Sport drive I or II. For off-road u can use the off-road or gravel mode. Again, you can manually intervene with the 2 left finger peddles which I mainly use for downshifting and occasionally for upshifting going downhill when engine breaking holds you back too much. Btw - you can set the level of engine breaking too. For those who enjoy using the foot for switching gears, there is an optional food lever available for the DCT version as well. One key benefit of the DCT is, that you cannot stall the engine which is important for off-roading or in switchback turns... perfect for crossing the Alps :)

[@mf834x]

Yeah✌ u r rite... the bike won't stall... it the most important 👍 i'm using xadv750cc. Really must get used to the concept of DCT. Once mastered... riding is as easy as ABC

[@paulobarata6377]

I own a 2019 DCT and i don´t regreat choosing this version

[@quesadilla79]

Same here

[@chrisvessey6237]

I own one as well. Zero regrets

[@tqlawy]

It's not the aim to not regret it's aim to by happy :)

[@boomerhgt]

Yes me too my clutch hand is goosed but with DCT I'm enjoying riding again

[@wilco1v]

Ridden both ,and got a manuel version schifting up on a mid corner did pull the trigger for my lady on the back to feel beter with a rider on a manual version.

[@Gixxer-1100]

I tried both models 1000 and 1100 with DTC and I can say that for normal use with a little going on macadam and in the mud DTC office but for stronger and more frequent visits to forests mountains and more time spent off the road manual transmission is much better, in the end we return to maintenance, the difference in price when purchasing and the possibility of failure, I definitely recommend a manual transmission to those who drive harder ...

[@winksta0]

I had DCT on the previous model ATAS and its amazing once you get used to it,when you said it was lazy out of the corners,i was like "press the downshift paddle before you enter a corner if youre wanting to power out of it!" I was pleased to hear your co host point that out later in the vid 👍. Its the same with overtakes,just override the automode by popping the downshift paddle before you pin the throttle,its an amazing system and i miss it on my Fireblade but when i go back to ADV bikes it'll be a DCT ATAS. Great channel 😎

[@mojomanmurph1925]

I enjoy manual. Just more fun and control. I would go for DCT if I was commuting in stop-n-go traffic everyday.

[@lenetisg]

I ve already done a test ride and DCT was the reason that I loved the Africa twin adventure sport.

[@2day_we_ride]

I bought the DCT after 2 days with Dave Thorpe at the Honda Adventure Centre. I'd assumed it would be great on the road not so good off road. I was wrong :-) Get it in the right mode (never D, the only time I ever select D is by mistake) and you can focus all your attention on where you are going and getting your balance, knowing that the DCT will sort out the gears for you. I'm no off road expert and I'm sure for some 5% edge cases having a clutch is helpful. For me, even for those dreaded low speed, tight stand up turns it was easier to use the rear brake and focus on where I was going without trying to feather a clutch.

[@PaulBartontreegazer]

That’s good to read - I’ve just booked a day at Dave Thorpe to get myself a really good test ride of a AT!

[@rogerwilliams2629]

With you guys talking at the end I was looking at the bike and thought, "that bike is absolutely incredible looking, and I NEED ONE!"

[@fatihk.8896]

DCT is a total different world man. I love it! In the beginning it’s a bit weird but when you start to master the settings it’s unbelievably comfortable. Specially in heavy traffic and in the city where I live you have so many traffic lights.

[@muaddib5282]

Extra 10kg or so for DCT would certainly play a part in my decision. I think that’s worth pointing out. Otherwise, it’s probably fine, but would prefer to have a clutch for slow speed, perhaps manual with quick shifter...

[@ssbat1]

How slow do you need to go? DCT in gear can coast to a stop if you give it zero throttle input and not stalling. You can say in gear and no brakes on and not move until applying throttle.

[@raycollington4310]

Depends of what you need the bike for. DCT is fantastic but for me, the reduced chance of encountering undocumented features (see forums) means mine is manual gearbox.

[@cloggsy1971]

I’d go DCT. I’ve just bought a car with a DSG gearbox & it’s a breath of fresh air... I can only assume it would be the same thing on a bike?! 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@9999plato]

For very low speed driving/ technical riding/parking lot maneuvers I would prefer a clutch. You cant rev the engine and feather in the clutch with a DCT. I learned long ago that putting some revs on the engine and getting that flywheel mass spinning creates a gyroscopic force that helps stabilize the bike. This is something that is not possible with a DCT. I'm a left leg amputee and have a Bergmann 650 and the clutch has the above mentioned properties. Now its got a low center of gravity so the inability to use a clutch does not hamper it at all. My Honda VTX1800 I drive with slamming the heel and toe shifter but I can use the clutch to my advantage in low speed maneuvers. Adventure bikes are tall and without the ability to work the clutch it could be an intimidating ride. I would probably install an electric pushbutton up and down shifter and work the clutch as I always had. He is correct, the Goldwing or NX750 might be fine with the DCT. My 2 cents.

[@xpusostomos]

So what do you like... gsa or dct?

[@theonlyredspecial]

I actually just traded in one of my fireblades for the Africa Twin Adventure sports DCT after test riding it. I didnt like the idea of an automatic clutch but I ended up falling in love with it and it would mean less work on long journeys and more time to admire the sights (or play with the carplay with the left hand). Its a super bike. Love it. The only negative I would say is that the normal D mode is a bit lumpy as the bike tends to want to run in 5 or 6 gear as much as possible. I think S /// mode is the best - its pretty usable all the time and still quite economical. you can however run the bike in manual and use gears with the buttons if you want more control over changes anyway - or if you want a quick shifter lever for your foot you can do that too.... i know you said all that in the video - good content as always mate, enjoy your channel as you seem to cover some bikes not many others do.

[@mrwobbly185]

Mine is manual with quick shifter. Perfect combo!

[@joseaguirre7517]

I agree!! Dude!! It's the Best!!

[@sunuk1915]

Dct faster than quick shifter

[@DagnisCC]

@@sunuk1915 It's a adventure bike not track rocket... lol

[@Advcrazy]

Is the quick shifter an optional extra from Honda or is it aftermarket?

[@mikichicago1200]

Mine too ♥️👍♥️👍

[@dananderson48]

I bought one of these, I found you can override the gear change with the manual buttons, with out being in manual mode. I find the DCT to be superior. Love it.

[@billmcmeekin7909]

Good job eh! 🇨🇦 You are both right in so many ways! You ride this bike differently than a standard. Mindful of dragging rear brake, manual handlebar shifters when needed, and variety of user settings. You learn how to drive motorcycle in a somewhat new manner, but with some time, find it's much better than manual gearbox. For long miles and city miles huge advantage. Off road, you learn to operate vehicle more by manual handle bar shiftersand find it very enjoyable. I was able to adjust my rear brake pedal for great access when standing and sitting. Seat was very hard to begin with, but at around 4000 km, it or my butt broke in, lol. I live in BC Canada, with very diverse terrain. I find it is super comfortable and capable in all because of DCT. Not perfect, but very very enjoyable. Almost 10000km on a 2020 ATASes. I just wish you had the electric suspension version. You'd be literally amazed at difference between road, urban, gravel, and off-road settings feel!!! This truly is what separates the regular AT from the ATAS, for global adventuring. You can pack extra gear, pillion, remove some or all, and with quick TFT or menu selection on the fly, adjust your incredibly noticeable ride in seconds. This is the game changer for me, as I always have a great suspension under me. Not sacked out due to weight or a harsh setup being light. Sweet ola :-) Try riding in gravel mode on a twisty tarmac road spiritedly. You instantly realize the difference. Thanks for sharing great content fellas, take care eh :-) 🇨🇦

[@irishflyer6377]

Another option is to fit the optional foot shifter to the DCT then manual mode gives a more traditional feel, drive it like any other quick shifter but also lets you select drive and neutral with your foot. Don’t be so hard on the D mode, I agree the Sport mode is more exciting but the D mode is nice when you want as relaxing ride.

[@rockape1954]

DCT for me all the way. Wish BMW had the option for my GSA.

[@_sr]

I have a 2019 Africa with DCT. So far so good and I am loving it.

[@woodywood3388]

Having done over 80% of my miles on a DCT bike (NC 750 - the rest on a Zero) I have just bought my first manual bike (Tiger 850). All the embarrassing incidents of stalling notwithstanding, I felt that the Triumph shift assist would be somewhat a replacement for the DCT. I‘m still running the bike in, so I haven‘t used it much yet, but I‘ll be curious to see if it is comparable, especially when it comes to clutch cramps (I‘m an old bugger, not getting any younger). So far, no regrets, but it‘s true, I do miss the convenience of DCT.

[@markaexley]

DCT every time! Had it on the NC750x then the CRF1000L!

[@iainhenstridge6343]

Just run in my Africa Twin 1100 DCT, the standard version. I’ve got a left ankle injury and this makes the world of difference, but then my other bike is a Ducati916 and everything about that is painful. Even without the injury, I’d go DCT. The beauty of it is you can’t stall it, even off road! Only criticisms of the bike are: The seat is hard after 100 miles and I’ve got both standard and low seats! The seat is not easy to unlock and remove. There’s no cubby hole for your phone, yet you need to plug it in to get Apple Car Play and Google maps. Prefer the lovely tubeless wheels of the Adventure Sport version. Otherwise it’s a fantastic bike. Does 55mpg with ease, which is pretty damn good. It’s made in Japan, not some grotty little sweatshop. Feels like a big trailie, rather than an adventure bike, but with Honda build quality.

[@MrMarty328]

The DCT is more a safety item for me and if available I would have bought it when I was 30. 30 years later I have the 20 AT AS ES DCT. Yes it’s chill to kick back and let the bike do the work. But aside from the electro bells and whistles the DCT helps as a poor mans hill hold and during emergency braking it will always be in the right gear and not stall when you need a bite to get you out of trouble. The lights on this bike are the best I’ve ever seen and if you haven’t experienced lean angle lights your in for a real treat. Outstanding gorgeous motorcycle that handles like a dreamboat with more than ample get up n go.

[@pinkiewerewolf]

Steve Kamrad took the Adventure Sports AfricaTwin DCT off road in a video. Made a believer out of me.

[@fredh4641]

DCT for me. I've got a CRF1100L ATAS ES DCT '20 and for cruising the S1 works perfect, once in a while interfering manually, but when going Bansaï put it in (M)anual and you won't feel a notch or clunk up- and downshifting! (I used to have a R1250RS, but that had a horrible quickshifter, clunky all the way) and you get a very nice F1 sound on downshifting (well, almost then ;-)

[@boomerhgt]

Beginners Tip new to DCT........Never blip the throttle sitting at traffic lights, on my second day riding my Africa Twin I forgot and blipped throttle in drive...I nearly went through the van in front...

[@AlexandreSantos-mn4sk]

You can always get the left pedal to the DCT and have the feeling of engage a gear........without clutch

[@markmather9223]

That's the best looking bike that came to the market in years. Great work Honda. I would love to rent one on my two week vacation. If it's my dream bike, It'll be my daily commuter. Will need to mount folding highway pegs somewhere. Love the look

[@Clearlynotmyname]

You cannot understand dct until you try it. Forget the manual clutch, one finger click and it snaps faster than any human. Once you get used to it you'll never go back to manual...at least I won't..

[@davidjermy2524]

A have had two DCT bikes . Cannot fault them. Use the paddle shifters when you want a swift overtake. Never in the wrong gear and no worries of a stall drop. The latest version is a step up. Good review .

[@derrekpatterson8171]

I agree I have dropped my 2018 dct bike a lot in mud and sand.Because no clutch when you let of gas weight shifts to front tire and if your in corner down you go.But mostly I commute in traffic and roads love it so easy I put in manual mode turn off trac.. Control.Hills are great and it reduces clutch wear.

[@motobob]

Interesting to hear some real world experience - thanks for sharing!

[@mikon66]

I’ve noticed in a few reviews that riders don’t fully explain the bikes flexibility. Use of the gear change buttons to override was a good catch but also ... there are three differently configured Sports modes not just one, and the Gravel button really sharpens up the response and gear changes when that’s what you need. There are two tuneable rider modes in addition to four pre set options. So yes it takes time to work out what’s right for you ... then you are all set!

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[@mitchfinney8174]

Just bought my first DCT. Riding for 43yrs. 30 bikes. It’s Witchcraft , love it 😎

[@peetee49]

I had a DCT NC 750x it was ok but always wanted to be in top gear so had to play with paddles or select sport mode, I now have the Africa Twin and decided on the manual.

[@NIP28]

nice!!! is it tiring ???

[@TechnoTweet]

I would choose DCT over manual in AT anyday.

[@jfro5867]

Good assessment. I have a DCT Crosstourer and it's an excellent system but you do have to put a little effort in to re-learn how to get the best from it. If you just jump on and give one a handful you will end up in a hedge. At very slow speeds you do need self restraint.

[@SBKPete]

I’ve had three DCT Honda’s, but when I rode a CB1000R + with a quick shifter, I was hooked. It’s the best of both worlds.

[@szeriman13]

you can put a foot shifter on dct.

[@markvaughn8096]

Ive not yet ridden a DCT version but I Have watched just about ever review on KZbin and look forward to riding it.............. What I have noticed is MOST reviewers suggest using the Sport setting ie (sport 2)..... THIS makes me question why HONDA even provided the other setting ?????? I sort of feel like HONDA is using their BUYING public as their TEST Gini pig to see what setting the public prefers..... It seems to me that D always Lugs the motor for most riders Making D rather point less to use or Have on the bike....... I envision my self riding in Sport 2 ALL THE TIME and Down shifting when entering a corner then allow DCT to shift up out of the corners... This is the way I think I would use the DCT box...... I simply see no need for other setting on the bike... HONDA should simply make D a Sport 2 setting and be done with it .... Do YOU see a need for the other settings ???? Like I said Ive never ridden one.....

[@rishikumarparia8272]

You guys are making some great content. Keep up the good work.

[@motobob]

Much appreciated mate! 🙌

[@Rsv4rr-r]

I would get the DCT version if I ever replace my BMW R nineT, primarily because I can’t stand working the clutch In Los Angeles city traffic (California allows lane splitting and using a clutch still blows), I don’t think it’s that much of a compromise or rather the benefits out weigh the compromise. I would probably get the optional foot operated shifter,

[@peterbrophy9442]

2016 CRF1000 DCT Owner and my “ONLY” complaint of DCT is when your on Technical Off-road Single Trails, if you get into a situation like a deep rut and you accidentally grip the throttle and “Whiskey Throttle It” and with NO Clutch to kill the power your apt to get thrown off the bike. Besides this set back I’d probably get another DCT model.

[@geneclarke2205]

DCT but on an 850 baby Africa Twin in 2021? You're right it takes about 2,000 miles to figure out how to adjust your riding style to DCT. Once you do, its DCT all the way.

[@roberthall1437]

G'day Bob.For me it's the manual gearbox with a quick-shifter, then one can use it like a pre-selector box. The best of both worlds. Manual for the country, DCT City or town.

[@davidmingee3153]

I've been riding a DCT Honda since 2016 & like 👍 with the option to switching to manual @ any point in the ride is great ...

[@Justwanthavefun_100]

DCT is fun and awesome 👍🏻 and I have 2019 DCT CRF1000L and I loved it 🥰 On newer DCT models you manually setting for your own riding style 🥰

[@TheMrB]

I got DCT. It’s really good. Now I love it.

[@Rossi593]

I moved to automatic cars years ago which are so much better in traffic and give the best of both worlds in terms of manual override but relaxed driving when you want it. I rode an X-ADV and found it easy but fun. I don’t, but contrast, like the variable drives found on most scooters. I have had and still have several bikes and if there is one aspect that irks as I get older is gear changing in heavy traffic. I’m an older (61) rider but have decades of experience that leads me to the DCT option (and only Honda so far). It’s not age but, as your great review says, what are you using the bike for. The same can be said of sports bikes which are, for me, nice to look at but utterly useless. Most anti views are based on an unwillingness to consider much as “real” bikers view scooters.

[@mf834x]

I'm using xadv750cc, once u get use to it, u r gd in twisty rd. I used s1 to s2 mode to cut thru thousands of bends. I can dwn shift it or up shift it without any jerk even at low lean.

[@markcooley7025]

I got a VRF1200X Crosstourer DCT, great for two up riding with some token gravel roads thrown in. The biggest complaint would be the DCT adds 20lbs. Having ridden manuals for 20 years it takes some practice (relearning) when it comes to the dirt. If Honda would make an 800cc Africa Twin at 400-425lbs, that would be my next purchase. I could go manual or DCT, but off road weight matters a lot.

[@wereyouaking]

Love how these sound, even with the stock exhaust!

[@madeiraonwheels]

I have an ATAS 2018 DCT and love it. The DCT is the best feature. You have to learn how it works to get the best of it. If you don't like it, fine, but try before making your choice. I do any type of riding and don't miss the clutch lever at all. There is a riding mode to suit every daily mood.

[@stephtraveler7378]

Simple: If you have more than one bike... make sure both are DCT or both are manual. I've seen Goldwing DCT owners "blip" their bikes uncontrollably forward while stopped at intersections... Get your muscle memory on a single style and stick to it.

[@MrCloobey]

Collect my new X adv dct next week & love the idea of twist & go, maybe i"m just getting old ?

[@FranktheDachshund]

How is it?

[@MrCloobey]

@@FranktheDachshund Have to say i absolutely love it ! It is a pleasure to ride & takes away the thinking & hastle of changing gear, also lowered it by 35 mm and this helps greatly ...

[@leric4205]

Le DCT c'est le top ! mais il m'a fallu environ 8000 km pour en comprendre la philosophie. Maintenant pour rien au monde je ne reviendrai en arrière. Demander aux pilotes de formule 1 ou de Ferrari ce qu'ils en pensent ?

[@Kmecha84]

Is the DCT reliable? Everybody who has them seems to love them, I always assumed the old tried and true manual was the most reliable, is it the same story with the DCT?

[@JohanVisscher61]

A quickshifter is not an alternative for a DCT. The new E-clutch might be. After 3 years of riding an Africa Twin DCT, I must say that I never use the D mode and I hardly use the manual mode. I ride in S1 or S2 and sometimes manually down shift with my left thumb. Specially in down hill driving I down shift multiple times to get the right amount of engine breaking.

[@richardsprings1414]

I have a 2016 Africa twin DCT it's a calill to get bit to get used to it But once I did I loved it

[@summersaroundthecorner5948]

I had a manual motorcycle before my Dct. Using the clutch tired out my left hand due to an injury that never fully recovered so I went to a Dct. I ride the NC 750X. Haven't looked back.

[@zyonsdream]

I’ve owned a 2017 Africa with a manual transmission until an accident in November. Due to the crash the bike was scrapped and I get to spend 5 months healing and learning how to walk again. Although I have a few more months of healing and rehab, I just put money down on a 2021 Africa Twin Adventure ES with a DTC. My doctors aren’t sure if my left ankle will ever be able to shift again so the DTC is a must.

[@IanTed]

After three GSs in a row and issues with arthritis in neck I am seriously considering one of these as my next bike, my preference would be for DCT. Everybody who rides one seems to really rate them, plus I think the black one looks cool😀

[@motobob]

I think I'd go for the black too. When I was riding this one through London a copper asked me "are you in the force?" - I was wearing a black jacket and white lid to be fair.

[@christophersmith1155]

im looking forward to dct for city and suburb riding where its a stop light and stop signs every 200 feet.

[@KillSwitch80]

I wish DCT was available on the CB500X

[@sweebeyh4327]

For me it would be a manual with a quick shifter.

[@ShaneZettelmier]

Never ridden one but it seems interesting. I can see were putting down a lot of miles on highways it would be nice but I’m not sure. And a low speed very tight turn you depend on that clutch a lot you keep your throttle steady and you use your clutch to control your speed and keep your bike upright, so I’m not sure I would be so great in a city with a lot of traffic or if you need to do a lot of tight slow turns. I would like to see someone try it on an obstacle course but I’m guessing it’s just not gonna be good at it. I don’t know I’d have to ride one but I just can’t see not having a clutch. The advantage I could see on this would be on hills. Are used to live on a mountain and we had a lot of stop signs and signals where you were pointing up pretty steep hills and that was really hard on the clutch come on this you just use your foot break and go and not have to worry about rolling back or killing the engine so that part might be awesome, but I just don’t know, I just worry that it would be too difficult to deal with on slow technical stuff and trying to turn really sharp in parking lots we’re on a thin street or driveway without a clutch. 🤔

[@czikenxjr5584]

I got 2020 manual and i love it . Dct matbe next time. First i have to try. 😉

[@rosleeabdulaziz3302]

Love my 2017 AT DCT model. CRF1000D GR8.

[@TheFbiFilesRepeat]

Still in love?

[@hardworkingamerican8847]

Great looking bikes those Twins . And the sound , music to my ears .

[@thepanel2935]

Can you tell us more about Sport mode and Drive mode?

[@SloppySalad]

I'd recognise that Hoo foreground anywhere at 0:01

[@dungbeetlemovies]

Nice to hear two opinions in one review. Maybe put a link in the description to Tim's channel on these two man videos? :)

[@leemski]

DCT is the future, bravo HONDA for this feature! Clutch thing was fun until I've tried DCT - I was skeptical before now I am in love with it. And with time it is going to be better and better - check AT2020 and previous model: already big improvement, so next gen at this pace gonna be even more efficient, probably lighter too and show the world that DCT on adventure bike make truly sense. IMHO Honda is two steps ahead with other bike brands.

[@mrvirus4115]

Which boots are you wearing? They look really good.

[@TheDervMan]

I loved the DCT NC750X I had, amazing to ride. However the gearbox started playing up and my local main dealer bodged the service too. They did eventually fix it by replacing the shift motor but they had the bike for months. As much as I loved the DCT gearbox I won’t be buying another, I appreciate problems happen but I have zero confidence in the dealer either. Shame ☹️

[@stevebolton8471]

That's a real shame. I had heard that the shift pin used to break around 60K miles on the NC700 but not seen many reports of DCT failure for recent NC's on the UK NC fora. All good for mine at nearly 19K miles.

[@BoredAtWork2000]

I don’t understand why people want to automate a bike like this in any way. You want to drive a luxury car and not do any work? Fine. But a bike like this was designed to experience the road/trail.

[@gb93669]

I'm considering an ATASes. I have not ridden a DCT bike. I know you can use the paddle buttons to choose other gears manually, but... will the DCT "fight" me over what gear to be in? Can I ride the bike completely in a manual mode manner, using the buttons? Thanks for a reply.

[@somashekarmc]

I want to use for daily use including highways. Most of the time I hav to filter through Bangalore traffic which is very slow Which wil be better? DCT or manual?

[@fertiglustig6122]

You should try the standard with dct much better.

[@konstantinw.1036]

Why ? 10 kg less ?

[@Randomas32]

Manual with quick shifter

[@9999plato]

Is the blinky lights that I'm seeing something that is only on the euro spec AT bikes? Even if I bought a new bike modulating headlights is something I would really want to catch the eyes of the lain brained car drivers. I dont know if they can modulate LEDs or Xenon lights.

[@motobob]

I think that’s just how it looks on camera because of the refresh rate

[@Checkpat]

Next time I change my motorbike It will be first a dct and after i ll choose the motorbike

[@TheZakkmylde]

Isn’t there more modes within the sport mode like 123 ect ?

[@kimperry5080]

Should have DCT or Manual opinion.

[@teemlee51]

I totally agree. DTC and manual. Seems a no brainer.

[@danman5857]

I'd take a manual gear box and add a quick shifter.

[@Heavywall70]

Dct Just in case I forget how to actually ride a motorcycle Less is more Less techy trappings equals More motorcycle 90% of my love for motorcycles is that they aren’t cars.

[@FrankKemperMuc]

It really is disgusting, how somebody dares to make a video about the advantages and disadvantages of a transmission without having read the owner's instruction. The 2020 DCT gearbox does not have one sports mode, it has three of them: S1 to S3. S1 is smooth, S3 is really sharp. And you are welcome to override the automatic shifting whenever you like. So, the bike is as responsive as you want it to be. Pro tip: skip D mode. It is suitable only for coasting through villages without making much noise, but fun starts in S2.

[@marcrigo694]

Great video I luv my DCT I just got Thxs

[@647killa]

Looks like the motorcycle world is having the same debate the car world has had - DCT vs Manual. DCTs can shift fast, sure, and may be more “efficient,” but once again, the involvement factor is less, which to some folks, makes all the difference. To this day, every car of mine has been a manual, and my last VW GTI had the amazing DSG transmission. Needless to say, the DSG GTI was sold within a month because I ultimately got bored and the “lightning shifts” novelty wore off. I’ll bet it’s the same for motorcycles, and I can’t imagine my CBR600RR being “better” “more fun” or “more involving” than the manual gearbox. And here I thought that motorcycles still retained that pure “man / machine” connection that is now lost in majority of cars, but looks like that’s about to change too. I’m just here to welcome our electrification / autonomous agenda of vehicles here, because why delay the inevitable future with technology like this ?

[@stevebolton8471]

I respect your opinion - for me it's a matter of tech progress and what you are used to when you started riding. If you want more involvement you can go back to manual advance/retard ignition for example.

[@dacarguru7983]

I think you’re equating outdated technology (kick starters / manual advance etc) with timeless technology, which is the manual gearbox. It’s a silly argument a lot of folks present when comparing manuals to DCTs, so no harm done. DCTs aren’t exactly “progress” in the same sense as electric vehicles, but we’ve been able to progress them a lot more now than we could 50 years ago. A manual gearbox motorcycle (not a kick started one or carbureted one) will always perform the same and will never feel outdated. A DCT from 2 years ago already feels outdated, let alone one from 15 years ago. This may be big news for the motorcycle world, but coming from a car background, the new CVTs and ZF torque converters have consistently been more popular than DCTs now and much improved. I don’t call a heavier and more maintenance intensive / less reliable gearbox implementation as progressive, irrespective of the “performance” benefits. Cheers.

[@Gilbonaut]

@@dacarguru7983 Surely it's down to the individual as to whether they like it or not without some lengthy explanation that makes it seem like you're trying to justify a religious belief. If you like it great, if not great as well. At least you're enjoying two wheels whatever you choose.

[@stevebolton8471]

Da Car Guru interesting. I have no knowledge of recent car CVT or ZF gearboxes and I will have to defer to your knowledge. I haven’t ridden a bike with a quick shifter either. I did ride a BMW CVT 650 scooter which I liked but the DCT is effortlessly better than that. The CVT belt needs to be changed every 12k miles and a smaller engine than my NC750X was getting 55 mpg compared to my overall average on the NC750X of 83mpg over 18k miles. The NC is far more responsive and controllable (it has modes) than the CVT. And it changes more reliably and faster than I can. I also think calling manual gearboxes timeless is a bit of a stretch. I am fine with you liking them but gearboxes will disappear once electric can achieve a decent range. Do you know of any good CVT or ZF implementations on bikes yet?

[@fredflintstone9449]

I hate automatic gears ! I WANT TO BE TOTALY IN CONTROL OF WHICH BLOODY GEAR IM IN! ALSO MORE COMPONENTS MEANS MORE TO GI WRONGE! I LOVE THE 1100 SPORT BUT I DO NOT WANT TWIN CLUTCH ENGINE

[@robbikebob]

I'm greedy. I'd want fully manual but, at the end of the day, when I just wanted to get home, or in the dark and wet, or when stuck in city traffic, I'd want to be able to switch to a fully auto and give my hand/brain a rest.

[@woodywood3388]

Rob BikeBob you can ride a DCT in full manual mode if that’s what you want. You just don’t have a clutch to slip or stall the bike.

[@GIXXERAKIAS]

@@woodywood3388 how exactly can we ride the dct like a manual transmission?Through the pads or by putting a quick shifter on foot?

[@alkehrer1986]

Dct won't stall that's helpful at slow speeds

[@geraldjones8925]

Wonder why no one's come out with the thumb throttle for the DCT version

[@ONYX-365]

*DCT / gear'less (electric) is the future* 🤷🏼‍♂️ _I liken it to listening to a playlist using a record player or a downloaded / streamed playlist_ 🎶 🎵 _Some people prefer the character you get from record players, but after getting used to modern convenience you wouldn't go back to using one exclusively._

[@martindrdul9316]

DCT!

[@rsa-_-worsie4698]

Manual gearbox fan for sure

[@adamniswonger8015]

They do have a quickshifter for these for $500.