Essential Tips For First-time Passengers - Don't Miss Out!

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[@MotoJitsu]

If you can't even do my White and Blue Belt drills alone...let alone with a passenger, don't take one. SUBSCRIBE or you'll get a nail on your next ride kzbin.info

[@elizabethwonders]

😮

[@Stacy_Smith]

I have a challenge for Eddie! Create CONELESS parking lot drills utilizing intersecting lines box perimeters etc. Parking lots are giant grids! It would be so much easier to dart in an empty lot and practice 8s, U-trn, weaves

[@johnjohnson1681]

show off lolol :P

[@p016264]

My brother had never been on a bike, it was a dream of his. I took him a a short ride. I told him to remain perfectly still and let me do the steering. REMAIN STILL. We almost crashed twice, he told me he wanted to help and leaned as far into the turns as he could. Never again!

[@beatrices.4601]

There is a huge difference between a trained familiarized passenger, who learned to ride with you and a random passenger. For example, after years riding with me, my wife doesn’t bother me at all… but i’ve teached her how and she trust me so she just stay relaxed and know how to avoid to put us in danger.

[@dation0000]

lawl fukin christ XD

[@p016264]

@@beatrices.4601 exactly! When I ride with my gf I barely notice she’s there, except for longer braking distance and getting groped at red lights 😁

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

The passenger leaning is the same as being in a car and the person next to you putting their hands on the steering wheel with yours "trying to help you steer". I've told them to hug me, stay upright, don't wave because even the arm moving affects steering. If they are static with me then it's usually good. The helmet slightly to one side as well. Especially when stopping and accelerating. To prevent banging together.

[@janicesanderson3310]

@@p016264 groped hehe gota love that part 🙃 good for you guys that’s awsm . Be safe

[@correykeen2956]

I used one of your previous videos to teach my fiancé how to be a passenger. She had been a passenger once before and the guy gave her no instructions and scared the hell out of her. With your video and me being patient and smooth on the bike she loves riding now.

[@markokrstonosic4033]

As a passenger at first i was really ignorant of what being a bike passenger means. And after being one for an extended period of time and slowly getting into bikes, it is of upmost importance to be aware of whats happening on the road and my movements. Maybe be even more serious than the rider. It is a complex thing, but at the same time, its simple. Keep track of the road while not moving, stay still but calm and relaxed. The body will follow the rider naturally. It is really fun, and what made me want to get into the bike world. Also, love the responsible advice at the end!

[@EllaBananas]

Recently started riding with a passenger on my cb300r, surprisingly enough I dont find it near as difficult as I expected. the hardest part was getting used to slow speed and compensating for the extra weight, and also making sure to be extremely smooth with everything I do. Accelerating as gently as I can while also making sure my braking is something my passenger can react to. Also, the passenger means Im wanting to shift into higher gears for a smoother ride, but my clutch hand has been having carpel tunnel issues so ive been doing clutchless shifting almost exclusivly aside from between first and second gear. The upside of all of this, is that once my passenger is off, I'm able to ride even better than before. Its forced me to focus on smoothness and control of the bars.

[@233kosta]

Assist and slipper is where it's at, my dude, I don't know of they offer that on the 300r, but my 650r has it and I'm never going back. One thing to keep in mind for your slow speed, the bike is not really going fast enough to self-balance (static drag in the suspension/headstock bearing/etc.), but nothing's to say you can't do it yourself. Don't bother shifting your body around, just countersteer to keep it upright. Helps to never turn at full lock ;)

[@inithandtheod8612]

@@233kosta they offer it for the newer years (2023+)

[@233kosta]

@@inithandtheod8612 Oh noice!

[@nesto9889]

first time i ever went as a passenger on a motorcycle he opened the throttle wide open lol

[@motomortgageguy6882]

I don't know why this isn't taught (discussed) in most basic riding classes. Greg I hope this comes up in eveyones YT search for info on riding 2 up. GREAT info.

[@josmith4531]

Because basic riding, is just trying to get you on the road safer. When you are ready to level up, get more training.

[@johnmacdonald1878]

I think it was, unfortunately I forgot it all shortly after leaving. 😀

[@nkha23]

I could see mentioning it, but they definitely wouldn't want to teach it. Basic is just that. The basic skills. To train up to a level of safety in which you can practice and refine those Basic skills. Smoother gear shifts, braking, slow speed maneuvers. Riding 2 up is an advanced skill. Also, think about the majority of folks in the Basic MSF course. They have permits, not licenses. Here in Mass, riding with a passenger and at night is a no-go with just a permit. Actually, someone in class asked about 2 up and the coach said I wouldn't rush. Get at least 9 months to a year of practice and be really comfortable with riding before you decide to include a passenger.

[@snafu673]

Nice video, I waited for 2 years before I let my girlfriend get on the back of my Harley Road Glide until I got used to riding and mastered the white belt and slow-speed maneuvering and like you said at the end of the video I made sure she had full gear like I have before she gets on the bike, and I was one of those Harley guys that backed up my bike with her on the back I will not do that again I will have her get off the bike before I do from now on... Thanks Greg...

[@claytonheslip7272]

Great clip, I like your philosophy of practicing and to be consistent with practice ( you can never do enough practise) . When I do some of your drills before going out for a ride the ride is so much better. Thanks for videos.

[@yedidiyamekonen1413]

Thank you for all these practical lessons !!! Most can learn to be as good, but only a few are great teachers!

[@grimr550]

It's also great to make sure your bike is capable of carrying extra weight. Check tires, suspension, and overall load of your bike to be sure the bike functions well while riding 2 up. Great video!!!!!

[@machwheels8642]

You are such a delight ! Love that you love having fun. Awesome tips. I am a small woman on my bike and I have decided to not take anyone but you never know if emergencies happen so I am happy to Lear not be prepared just in case. Thanks Greg.

[@lukasmodry196]

This is completely different from what I was taught in driving school. Where they told me that the passenger should copy the driver's movements body to body. I have to try this.

[@sosouthern985]

todays the first day im considering a passenger and the video drops today. love your content. appreciate sharing the knowledge

[@pearsehall1049]

I like your no nonsense attitude practice practice practice and safety gear so important saved my life when I came around a sharp bend to meet a long wheeled spinter van doing a u turn across the road only had time scrub of 10 15 mile but impacted about 45 mph my safety kits saved my life. Thank you and keep up the good work 👍

[@frankieromantv7653]

One thing I noticed I’ve never had a problem finding a date when I’m out and about on my 2005 600cc Suzuki Thanks for sharing I’ve road bikes on and off 15 years but it’s always good to stay teachable and practice thanks for sharing

[@borilapostolov7474]

Hey Greg, I have to try this with my daughter. She's been on the back seat for enough time riding 2gether, but I will definitely try the "scary" rollercoaster ride. P.s.most of the time was spent on the virago 750 but now it is a vstrom 650. Thank you.

[@WhiteChocolateTricks]

I'd add some unsolicited advice here to inquisitive riders: If you're nervous about taking a passenger on your bike, maybe that''s a good sign you shouldn't be taking a passenger and need to improve your skills first.

[@paulmorris3022]

What i love about your channel is the way you explain things. you don't over complicate the instruction. the other part i like is Practice, Practice, practice. i have learnt so much from you and my confidence on a bigger bike has come on in leaps and bounds. Thank you

[@peterclark5003]

Great riding skills! One thing that amazes me about these bmw GS bikes is the balance is so great you don’t notice anyone getting on and off - no matter how heavy the person is.

[@janicesanderson3310]

I respect your abilities and I havnt had a passenger on my bikes except for my first time when my ex taught me years ago . He was taller and bigger than me . On a cruiser . Iv been extremely hesitant because I’m already on my new bikes since then on my tippy toes . The going isn’t too scary but the stopping in traffic etc kinda makes me think twice . I have been a passenger many times but ya the info is great . Also I love the “weeeeee “ it’s how we all are when we’re out there 🥰

[@brianaw220]

Interesting tip on keeping the passenger dead center - definitely makes sense to make the only factor added weight. I've only had my wife with me, so I tell her to hold on snug and do everything I do. I find that means she doesn't need to think and eliminates the mind reading problem because she is holding on.

[@pedrofeliciano6211]

That info is so great, I’m buying gear and getting ready to ride with my girl and I’m a new rider and now that I saw this video I will practice until I get the belts corrects. You make it look so easy but as I ride as a new learner I’m experiencing more on the road on how much people don’t pay attention to motorcycles. So my swerving skills are getting better and my cornering. I’m 59 and I’m not looking to get injured in anyway possible. Thank again for these educational videos which as help me progress my riding skills. Bless you

[@danionescu988]

How did it went?

[@audeamus7388]

@@danionescu988 he ded

[@robertclery4484]

Again, a brilliant demo lesson. Have been learning from you for years all ways stays with you, keep up the fab work.

[@therealalexmullins]

There are some basics like getting on and off the bike, and stopping and going that are universal. Cornering like when riding solo, depends on the scenario and the bike. Big touring bikes are very forgiving and don't have a ton of lean angle so staying like a sack of potatoes makes sense. On my Z900, I like when they're more like a backpack and hold on to me and move with me in corners. This is because I'm going to counter balance at slow speeds and lean into corners at higher speeds. Holding on to me and moving with me is more predictable and more stable on a sports/naked bike. That's just what works for me though.

[@mybibleandmybike]

I mostly ride and practice one up bcs I I commute back and forth to work almost daily but every ride I hear motojitsu in my ear saying shut up and practice so I find the closest parking lot shut up and practice….lol… my wife is the weekend rider but I’m very well prepared bcs I practice 5 days a week while riding even making myself uncomfortable on the bike…. These videos continue to let me know that training on these beautiful machines never ends wether one up or two… great advice teacher…

[@rodneywoods9537]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge!!

[@CustomJack]

I'm soon getting myself a bike. But I think the part that makes me the most nervous, is leaning into turns. I know they do, but the tires just seem like they won't have enough grip for them not to slide out from under me.

[@Liakos010]

Dear Greg, First of all I would like to thank you for all your videos. You 've made both me and my gf (as a passenger) rides a lot easier, calm and fun. Secondly, I have a question regards your app. Are the units limited to ft, m/h, inches, etc? For us European folks, it's not that convenient to convert into metric system all the time. Thank you for your time and effort. Lots of love from Greece

[@ivanjezakonful]

You are european. Why convert to metric system? You are using it. Americans use imperial system.

[@Thickthighstothunder]

Thank you! I’m scheduled for a msf course and my buddy invited me to ride with him. He’s great at it, but I was worried I’d screw up lol

[@heshamaskar67]

Great video Greg, thanks for the efforts you always do, so useful and helpful …💐🙏

[@doctorprepper8106]

If the passenger is holding onto you, won’t he lean together?

[@Fuinhaa]

You better, or else you'll go straight.

[@brettscott8288]

I just got a 2011 pcx 125 and my wife is ready to hop on. I've only ridden it four times and definitely don't feel ready for that yet.

[@sebas888888]

I would add communication while riding. Talking and explaining while getting on and off is surely a good thing especially for new riders you take on, but also telling them ahead even with signs and hands showing your next manoeuvres in advance. Like there, look ,lights! , or, further then right, so they know what is going to happen and I avoid weird erratic surprised and thus dangerous movements and reactions, or simply avoid the famous helmet bump. Some people don't have a driving licence, and really can't read traffic and lights like an experienced driver can. Also if I take a passenger, since it's my responsibility, I ride smooth and hyper cautiously, creating myself a virtual bubble front back and sides to allow for extra security. I accelerate smoothly, and brake super smoothly. Also while braking I make sure to warn other vehicles behind me by flashing my brake light 10 times more and make them aware the bike in front is carrying and caring a precious package. I noticed that in consequence the cars often even leave an extra gap behind when I do this, which is an extra added nice touch. No lane splitting with a passenger of course , never! Last, if the ride involves twisties and the passenger is not used to bikes or a biker him/her/themselves then I will ride cool and ask to not counterweight, and not lean, but just look at the road ahead, and if they see a curve coming they know I will have to slow down then accelerate again, but most importantly, simply put their head on the side of the curve, which helps the body to naturally follow the flow, avoids counterweight, and they feel safer as they see where they are going and makes them participate actively and enjoy more the ride. Ah last thing even if it sounds obvious, never bring a drunk passenger with you. I've seen and heard too many horrible stories. Sounds obvious but some people are simply not responsible and in shape (I heard of a passenger falling asleep! Uy uy uy) Last, and It warms the heart , a friend of mine says this, this 45yo girl says there are only 3 people in the world up to date with whom she would agree to ride as passenger, wherever whenever day night sun or snow. Her dad, her ex boyfriend(hardcore superbike and really nice guy) , and me!. She knows her stuff since she's been a kid and it's an honor to be identified as a trustworthy rider. Anyway keep up the cool vids, my the torque be with you! ✌

[@mihaicostescu]

Best online tips ever...Period. P.S. I can barely wait to buy my bike next year so I can take the white belt course.

[@marxtuf]

Handles are good for avoiding the head banger gear changes but I was more comfortable on long rides by instructing pillions to hold me and align our two spines. You are my backpack. If my spine goes left so does yours.

[@pawelwis7215]

This planet need more guys like You. Another thing I do realize is that most of my buddy`s don`t have a clue how to ride a bike.

[@justbeingmybestbob]

One of the best things about your videos, other than the great knowledge, is that I can not imagive you as a DI! I remember my DIs and I stils can't, to this day, picture them as any other than the scariest thing in my life. LOL Thanks, appreciate all you have to offer. Semper Fi.

[@Irrumbuman]

Very nicely explained and nice riding skills showing all variations with a passenger !!!

[@pierre-marie8351]

Very interesting and useful ! Thx MotoJitsu

[@clicker1967]

He is such a professional and responsible rider. Great lesson, thank you

[@tylerrichter4066]

I love the crazy look in his eye, thats the type of person you have to be to survive on the streets that long 😂

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

Good tips. I apply most of them but will add some new ones I learned here.

[@edm8064]

your explanation is very good and clear, but personally I let my passengers experience it for themselves what it means not to sit still and show them what happens in a bend if they steer or countersteer, then they will see that the bends become shorter and against steering make the bends longer and that I cannot drive the lines that guarantee our safety, then they will see for themselves what it does if they do not sit still, I show this at 10 kilometers per hour, the difference is around the 6 meters per bend,sorry for my bad english

[@SAN-Adv]

Great practical applications. THX. 🏍

[@LoloniLewis]

Thank you for sharing the knowledge.

[@Craigravon]

Good vid dude great channel 👍

[@joshuae6575]

Great video!

[@paulminshall8793]

I recommend getting a helmet comm system. Makes it so much easier to warn about stuff about to happen.

[@apiyutsiyapan9582]

Great tips, again. I learned something. Thank you.

[@Squirmula1]

I have a mid 70's UJM, no topcase, no sissy bar. Just a standard banana seat. Went for a long, hot, June afternoon ride in rural Maryland with my GF. She is tiny and hangs on tight. No more obtrusive than a backpack. Seemed like every farmer was mowing hay. Beautiful day. We rolled across a set of RR tracks not too fast, and she jerked suddenly. She had completely fallen asleep and had started to slide off the side of the bike. I had on full gear and didn't realize she had gone limp. In fact, I kind of forgot she was back there!!! No harm done. Now on warm days I give her leg a squeeze if I don't feel her moving around.

[@rudedog3529]

Years of riding on the back of a tandem bicycle made my GF more compatible on the back of a MC . Steady, neutral position. Legs long enough to mount from the ground, but I don't carry a box on the back, either.

[@deepfishfryerpagel8656]

Best advise for a passenger I've heard on the internet! Thanks for all that you do!

[@ClassicRider]

Although my wife will be riding her own new 2005 Rebel, as my Pillion for over 40 years, she has never felt like baggage. - she will be using some of your vid's thanks !

[@acorn5747]

Thank you 🥹I rode on a sport bike for the first time on Sunday as a passenger. Embarrassed to stay I wear bear hugging the entire time 😅

[@johnbetts3144]

How about uphill corner shop parking with passenger with 5'5 body and with 45 liter top box will that be tough to do as well with r15 v2

[@bigboytoyzrc9258]

Good video!

[@thezmanz28]

Could you provide a link to your white and blue belt drills please.

[@fju3712]

Would this be different on a cruiser?? Thanks for the tips on how to be a better passenger ❤ “Its a roller coaster……WEEEE” 😂

[@sergiurusu5316]

Cool!!! Very nice!!!

[@nignatovskiy9901]

I think another tip I would have for big bikes is if the passenger is getting on the left side, tilt the bike a little to the right and it makes a huge difference

[@Paredecity]

Nice tips. Thanks.

[@heddshot87]

The biggest misconception is that passangers think low speeds are the safest for them to re-adjust.

[@bryanvega8672]

Great Tutorial! I wish you could make a tutorial when it comes to lower displacement motorcycle-125cc. I struggled and almost crashed the first time I did with a passenger. Kudos!

[@antonjoubert6980]

Yeah 125 a bit underpowered, very important to practise slow speed manoeuvring if you're planning to ride with a passenger.

[@johnmacdonald1878]

Thanks I’ve never taken a passenger, now I just have to find a one willing to come with me. Hopefully getting her to watch this.

[@markgellman101]

MJ, great tips, what kind of top case is that and can it hold your Shoei?

[@michellewildman2259]

Wow love this & how simple you explain it all 👊🏼but it's just as simple as full gear or go home🤷🏻‍♀️❤

[@MotoJitsu]

thanks! instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@goranmajnaric556]

Is it all same for scuter? What shoud passager do on scuter when driver is braking? So you dont recommand passager have a hands around driver?

[@dation0000]

love love this

[@dragonskinavi]

Thanks for the advice! I have 2 questions since I live in India where the roads are a bit unpredictable. So, say I'm riding with a passenger and I suddenly spot a big speedbreaker - what do I do and say to ensure the safety of both of us? Also, in case there's a significant ditch or pothole right ahead, what's the best action and things to say so that the both of us get past these situations calmly and in control (proper speed & braking, etc)? I know the roads over there are way better than here, but would appreciate a video on these sorts of situations, if possible, thanks! :)

[@Lena_765_]

I actually feel more comfortably when I tell my passengers to lean into the corner. It just works, but maybe it is cause I always practice in a parking lot before taking them.

[@kennethmiller81]

When i started riding, i set some rules for myself to always follow #1- never ride without a full face helmet #2- never ride without full gear #3- never ride with a passenger (im not responsible enough solo muchless with someone else)

[@MrsSasukeUchiha]

yo! I wish you could talk some additional motorcycle knowledge into my friend. He has only been riding for less than 2 years and has already been in a motorcycle accident. He had the nerve to say he wanted to take me out for a ride. I'm like, that's a big nope because I don't think he's ready for any passengers. Smh

[@J-S2014]

Thank you for this video. I have watched like 10 videos before yours and this explains so much!🙏 (I am the passenger 😅)

[@MotoJitsu]

Glad it was helpful! instagram.com/motojitsuclub

[@joseadavila7445]

Good advice . I ve never taken a passenger . And if they ask I tell them the truth that's at another level not safe . But I know you start with someone slim that knows how to be in the back of moto or maybe Carry them on a bicycle 1 st to get use to they weigh ?

[@khalira1]

tá batendo comando essa GS hein

[@coplock6689]

It's amazing what the bike is capable of when you know what you're doing.

[@MotoJitsu]

yup :) instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@mimer1219]

ive rode with my dad on his big motorcycle. I found a new hobby then games

[@ChromeBlasterYT]

at 6:23 you put your foot on the ground while driving! just to tell you if you didn't already know never put your foot down while driving even if your going slow bc I live in UK and doing that is a big no , other hat that your good to go!

[@ecalzo]

well done Sir

[@georgebrowne5935]

I totally agree with Full Gear, whether or not it's required by Law in whatever Country you live in. I would also like to see it made Compulsory into Law. Good Video.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

I agree with wearing gear at all times riding... BUT I don't ever want to see law about it... At least, NOT in the U.S... 1. As soon as laws start requiring gear, there are going to be standards to be met, and then there are lobbying interests to change those standards for businesses to make more money, whether or not the gear is any safer or even a requisite to ride... 2. If we start down that path, more gear is ALWAYS safer "by the numbers" than less gear... AND then you get riders who look like Randy from "A Christmas Story", the scene with the little kid bundled up head to toe, screaming, "MOM! I can't put my arms down!" 3. Police HAD DAMN WELL BETTER have more pressing business to deal with than pulling me over to argue about gear standards and fashion sense. There are people driving on all manners, brands, and flavors of drunk or high off their asses, havoc being wreaked from crossing every lane instantly and without signal to get to the exit to 18-wheelers just not bothering to brake or pay attention careening into everything and anything in front of them... The color or faded and cracked appearance of the reflective stripe on my sleeve is NOT a "probable cause" to chew up an hour on the side of the road... I know the risks of old, outdated, or non-standardized gear. The best we can (and should EVER) do is pass on the word about GOOD gear, and BETTER standards as we can find them... Let God and Darwin sort out the losers who refuse to learn. ;o)

[@Simplyalons]

Two directions that I always tell my pillions and I didn’t hear you mention: 1. When I turn my head you turn yours with me 2. I brace the gas tank with my knees and my hips are your gas tank. Hold on tight with the legs and core, and relaxed with the hands and torso.

[@sanjitjena4954]

Another instruction I give to the passenger: While climbing please move your body and legs slowly. The more rushed you are, the bigger the force on the peg, I have to adjust a lot to keep the balance.

[@amerylavail8185]

This guy is hilarious. I love the way he comes across. Lol

[@6drk6mrc6]

I am a new rider with a 150cc commuter, Bajaj v15. Tried first time riding with a passenger. But, the weight behind probably made my front tire to lose traction, because and when launching of handle started to jitter and shake? Is it normal?

[@manusullivan1884]

Great skills 👌

[@ayeshamamabolo772]

I'm a passenger with bad balance I think. When the bike stops I feel the bike wobbling and I don't trust the driver to be able to hold all the weight on one leg. Another thing that freaks me out is corners, it always feels like we're gonna tip and fall. This has happened before and I have trauma from that experience. Are you supposed to counter balance the slant of the bike going around corners?

[@dcasandman]

Have my wife 80-90% of the time with me. Need a good video on twisty road riding with passenger. Not aggressive just good pearls of info. I have her stay neutral and just look over the shoulder the direction we are going.

[@KVenturi]

That's a nice GS holy

[@Sugarhill.]

thanks for the very helpful video do you mind telling me where you got that storage accessory preferably one with a back for the passengers

[@MotoJitsu]

BMW instagram.com/motojitsuclub/

[@flyrazorlep]

do you have any tips for a short rider who is not flat foot on the ground how to best handle a passenger climbing up on the bike?

[@DevinJuularValentine]

I can reach both feet but for safety I will also have the bike on the side stand. Then passenger gets on the opposite side to the side stand. But then getting your feet up will meet a lot of strength and balance but it's doable

[@arlinhuynh336]

So my mother rides a gsxr 750 and she is crazy, obviously the bike has no luggage behind or anything absolutely nothing, how do I handle being a passenger while fast/hard take offs lol

[@crazzei]

Good information. Don’t think it was necessary to do all that standing and body twisting in a beginner how to video though

[@NoNegotiations]

So, if anyone thats not aware. ALL LED light flash really quickly that is not noticeable with naked eye, only noticeable with cameras that catch high frame rate, thats why you see LED light flashing in videos.

[@kebbs56]

Additionally, I tell pillions that if they need to adjust their seating position, or stand up at any point, they must only do it while we're moving and not stationary. Nothing worse than somebody shuffling while your stopped on one leg!

[@jasonlong8625]

On a scooter, would you put the bike on the center stand for mounting?

[@byakuya1170]

No thats not smart just keep your feet on the ground. Also you can just stand up a bit or move forward. Scooters are different from bikes. Oh yeah and just apply both brakes with your hands

[@user-pd2jn7nw4s]

Wow!!!!!!!! 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮🎉🎉

[@fairplayer916]

Wanted to throw my 2 cents out there and have someone correct me if I'm wrong. The best way for a passenger to be is as still as the comfortably can be. Even in this video, you can see his passenger counterbalance himself alittle bit when he's doing the tight turns. Key phrase being ALITTLE BIT. Dont risk falling off the bike trying to stay ridgid as a board. But generally hold still and trust the driver knows what they are doing. If you can't do that, why did you even get on the bike?

[@Krustenfresser]

but it doesent work like that on a sport bike with dead center

[@joshuaiseria.4234]

is this san diego chula vista???

[@oldmanbiker2]

I told my wife when she first started riding with me that she's luggage don't lean or move around stay straight up don't follow me or counter lean. I control the bike you are the most stable luggage I should ever have on the bike.

[@jobogaert8514]

reminds me of the first time I took my wife on the bike; I'd told her "when we lean, just lean with the bike, don't try to sit up straight. next thing I know she leans while we're doing 80km/h "because their was a corner coming up" - and why AT LEAST 100m in advance? "because I just knew you'd wait till the last moment"