Motor City's Burning: Detroit from Motown to the Stooges (full documentary on 1960s Michigan music)

[@DfactorPop]

Until that long lost MC5 documentary gets released, this is the best thing you'll ever see that explains the history of the band and its relevance

[@supafrogg258]

Motor City's burnin' It made the hippies All jump and shout I said Motor City's burnin', people It made the pigs in the street Freak out

[@johnallen6945]

I lived in Ohio in the '60s but me and my buddies would pile into my mom's car nearly every weekend to go up to Detroit, Ann Arbor, all over Michigan 66-70 for the music scene. Windsor was just across the bridge so good black hashish was plentiful. Cobo Hall, the Grande Ballroom, even city parks were rocking out. So many young people who didn't want to work on the assembly line like robots. Motown was huge and it brought black and white people together cause we all liked the same music. I'm 73 now but I could write a book just about my Michigan adventures alone.

[@giovanni5063]

Born and raised in South Detroit, moved to Grosse Pointe City. Did not fit in, did not know how to act, believe me, it wasn't pritty. Found myself rootless and scared, needed some kind of thing to hold, found the spot and stayed right there, the answer was "Rock n Roll". Stooges, MC5, Bob Seeger, Smokey, Marvin and all the others helped me to sneak and get on by. All I gotta say is Rock and Soul, she helped to keep me stay alive. Motown, Queen Mama Jean, Tom Shannon, CKLW, WKNR and WABX, what a time.

[@RossHMay]

the only thing that you missed, are/is the great jazz history of Detroit. from big bands, to Dr Yusef lateef. Bakers Keyboard lounge, The gaye Paris. or, afro punk bands Death, who combined punk with elements of soul,jamaican genres with chunks of punk jazz/prog. or howza bout Rodriguez? or graet Rockabilly Outlaw Country; Detroit/Windsors Late Great Jack Scott. or even SRC. The Amboy Dukes. (Pre Psycho Ted). or even The Bob Seeger System; 2+2 is on my mind. The Runaways. Fanny. Hot Club Of Gordie Howe Town. or even outta' towners, who made Detroit Home; John Coltrane/Patti (Sonic) Smith. The reruns. The Motor City Mutants. Aretha Franklin.+++++++++++++++.Cheers From the hockey hotbed of SpoCanada. Go Wings; Go Spits

[@matthewjdouglas6471]

Death were doing punk before punk was even a thing. As an English man, I love everything from America from 60s garage bands to johnny thunders heartbreakers and so much more. Detroit and newyork had a great musical scene in the 60s 70s 80s

[@Alphastare23]

Indeed, also the Detroit Techno scene was very influential to the larger electronic music world.

[@bustabass9025]

Watts Club Mozambique. Lots of good live recordings from sessions there in my vinyl collection.

[@shelbyvision]

Good post. However, Fanny is from Sacramento.

[@tomstiel7576]

They are making Sinclair look like he was a somebody,,,,sadly he was just a guy reaping the benefits of others,,,he never made anything of himself

[@JanetDaley-solo]

Truly a great documentary on the city my husband was born & raised in at that time. He died 29 yrs ago---was wonderful to see & hear the sounds he loved & hated so much. Thank you.❤

[@MrTwenty20video]

Appreciate this. This was my generation. You're welcome kids. Sorry you missed it. But you can make a change to make the world a better place. Your efforts for peace, equity and humanity is powerful. Be the happy child with the dreams you had, not the orders from the ignorant iron fist of the monsters. ❤ Be the glue. ✌️

[@teeceemoo]

I would love to see an update, thanks for sharing

[@carolwolf9614]

Brother Wayne. God bless you friend

[@lennytidwillow3666]

SRC Scott Richards Case. Great band! Missing from this doc.

[@phylliselizahb1041]

When I did radio in Cleveland, I played those Detroit base of 45s & lps & got dubbed "Michigan Mom." What a scene! (but still a guy based mentality)

[@raymondpetersen6155]

I was born in Detroit in 1957. I grew up with Motown. Love it too. Also Bob Seger, Mitch Ryder, etc. 🙂

[@Helmuesi911]

I was born in Detroit too.. St. Joseph Mercy hospital.

[@mykarmaisdogma]

I'm from Detroit. I'm not even sure what to say. Yes yes and yes. Wish it hadn't ended so depressingly!

[@zipperpillow]

You had me at "Yes". Thank you. As for the depressing ending, I think they just ran out of money to express the ideas that they had in mind to express. But the premise of over-reaching Police fueling an artistic reaction and having that expression connect with some people....well that runs through my whole life.

[@russellforsyth8416]

I'm from Texas and have never been to Detroit. However, the fact it was one of the largest and greatest industrial and economic engines the world has ever seen. It truly makes me sad the way it has declined.

[@trajan6927]

​@@russellforsyth8416socialism/Marixism and the unions destroyed The Motorcity.

[@bungalowmo]

This needs a part 2. SO much influential music was overlooked.

[@zipperpillow]

Wouldn't it be great if WE could backseat drive other people's original ideas, until WE could perfect them? (he said insincerely)

[@ljiljanamilos9292]

I saw IGGY , STOOGES too, few times, in Croatia, Slovenia too. Every time was a blast! RIP exSTOOGES,long live the left few

[@klmullins65]

If iʻm not mistaken, Slovenia was the last place The Stooges played before Ron Ashton passed away

[@karlkalasky6066]

Some of the greatest music of different genres come out of Detroit

[@zipperpillow]

Everyone everywhere make great music. Open up your head.

[@WTFCHUCK9920]

"It's was the best of times" and yet still is the "worst of times" Home sweet home 3 1 3 ♥️💪🏿

[@zipperpillow]

I used to be a 313. Now I'm an 810. Didn't move. Thank you Bob Seger. "I feel like a number".

[@RD-zj6vc]

If it's a documentary and I see that BBC logo, I know it's going to be good.

[@ljiljanamilos9292]

You're right brother. Hi from Croatia

[@tylerthompson1842]

Fr

[@john1606ful]

If you was English like me , I'm sure you would have a different opinion ,

[@carlsaganlives6086]

@@john1606ful How about Dave Attenborough? Seems like an agreeable chap, although mocked (good naturedly) occasionally on skits - 'as seen here in their natural habitat' - , lol. I remember being young I heard over in the UK or maybe just England there were only 2 stations - BBC1 and BBC2 - and being a spoiled American was incredulous that an empire the sun never sets on only offered the 2, haha. Cheerio!!

[@john1606ful]

@@carlsaganlives6086 Carl , I certainly don't want to argue with , you , but as you call yourself , not me , a spoiled American , then maybe it's possible that I , as an Englishman , possibly know only slightly more than you about the BBC , which over here , by many people , not everyone is called the Biased Bullshitting Company ,of course Attenborough is a treasure , but honestly , the Brazen Bollox Company is widely disliked in England , and by the way , nobody here says cheerio , see you later

[@debliedel]

This was GREAT! Buttttt, they barely touched the sky with this stuff! Not to mention Seger, Nugent, Kid Rock, Mitch Rider, so many not mentioned!! I was in my early teens when all this was happening, I was 15 during the riots! It was all so beautiful! If you were a kid in or around Detroit then, you learned about life period... I was at the Grande Ballroom with Mc5, Iggy and all the rest! Cooper was great back then, OMG, Grand Funk was awesome! I saw Seger for the first time at Livonia ice rink for 3 bucks! Oh the memories! So many stories, and at 70 yrs. old now i can still remember and tell those stories! Smoked a little pot with Sinclair in Ann Arbor!!

[@sayitwithhellhounds]

Kid Rock? Fuck that shit

[@zipperpillow]

May many kisses fall upon you. Why doesn't Bob Seger have at least a mural on some blank wall in the city? Why are Americans so shamefully bad at public Art? The French gave us the Statue of Liberty as a gift, for free. What have we made? The "Fist" in downtown? How is that not misread?

[@debliedel]

@@zipperpillow I agree! In Minneapolis, Prince is everywhere!

[@zipperpillow]

@@debliedel A trail along the Manistee River, a mural in Ann Arbor, a bronze statue in downtown, playing guitar, in that shithole of confusion they call "downtown". What greater musical artist do we have? I know he lives on radio as a perpetual pleasure but couldn't somebody somewhere give this artist a face somewhere? Perhaps that would/could inspire some others to carry an equivalent torch? ....to aspire to express the inexpressable, so beautifully?

[@debliedel]

@@zipperpillow I totally agree!

[@l.a.crenshaw5952]

Great documentary about Detroit City and the Music scene, Thank you

[@lamarporter9976]

Thanks for Including Mr. Mathers , still representing Detroit , and his move to LA with Dr Dre . Music always brinks people together . Born in the late fifties. Grow up listening to all of this music. And attended some of the concerts, it was the best experience for people of all races and cultures and backgrounds to see past someone’s skin and enjoy the experience of being together ❤❤❤ Because of the Music

[@gimbrere]

Beautiful and heartbreaking film. Fantastic music spread all over the world. Hope some fortune will return for the citizens.

[@adp5R3x]

The BIG 4 🚓💨 ... That's being DOWN in 60's Motor City ! 💥👊

[@noblshtplz]

What a great documentary.❤ I recall sitting on the roof of my parents house watching Motor City burn. The flames lit the sky like a war zone, eating up the lives of a once vibrant city. Damn we were sad....

[@traviscutler9912]

I grew up across the Detroit river in Canada, my mom brought me to the water's edge as we watched the city burn the night they set the world record for arson on devils night. My mom said, "those are Americans."

[@roaddawg3217]

Yo we are not proud of that moment 😢

[@traviscutler9912]

@@roaddawg3217 yeah we had family around 7 mile and visited on weekends. I never really thought of American versus Canadian cuz I was just little but that was the first time I knew there was a difference. Crazy world man

[@roaddawg3217]

@@traviscutler9912 if you want to hear something really interesting, seeing as you know something of the geography of Detroit, there is a recording of the Detroit fire department dispatch during that terrible night! It's here on yt just search that!

[@AHLUser]

Good Doc... Well done and truthful. But,,,, In order to get MoTown to allow them to be featured they went quite light on Berry Gordy. There was a VERY 'Dark-Side' to MoTown Records... They ripped off everybody and 'Sold-Out' Detroit for L.A., and ruined many lives, while making a few superstars that managed to escape their crooked contracts and start over with other labels. Sixto Rodriguez is an example of a very talented Latino song-writer & musician who was robbed by MTR, and I highly recommend the excellent movie docu-drama "Searching for Sugarman" to see an example of how abusive and greedy MoTown Record was. Alice Cooper (formerly Vincent Fournier) was born in Detroit, on the East Side, but his family relocated to Phoenix when he was a teen. His band was struggling in LA and he was inspired by the scene in Detroit to move "Back Home" and his career took-off. There were MANY bands omitted from this doc, it's a shame... I loved the wreckage of the Grande Ballroom scene... and they did a super job on Alice Cooper, MC5 & The Stooges.!!

[@BradleyLoomis-wq9yf]

I Love this Stuff grew up on it but its to much at the moment cuzz my parents passed away 2yrs ago.. after my Brother passed in 2012 my mom had a hard time listening to her youthfull music an my Dad didnt help when he ran off on her midlife SO its tuff looking back Still the Best music ever produced but can be Sad at times when its supposed to make ya feel good its like sayin Rip to my passed hope i snap out of this but not sure i will lifes tuff Gotta move on in alot of ways idk..

[@doriandenard5846]

Stay strong brother 🙏🏾

[@noorzanayasmin7806]

My husband introduced me to temptation band and ever since I have been big fan of them. We went recently to theatre to watch amaz to the Motown songs and time. It felt like we went back to the 60s for a second. Even though I was born in 90s in Dubai I feel like my heart was in motown from the 60s. I love everything from the culture, music and to the vibe. I wish I was born in the 60s instead of the 90s although i love my 90s

[@phylliselizahb1041]

So lucky my Zenith table radio was an awesome receiver! Lived "in" WKNR FM, Dearborn. I'd talk about that scene in my middle o'nowhere tiny town high school. People thought I was creatively kidding . . . Until the records appeared.

[@keithharris1672]

I saw Iggy at the Rock and Roll Museum initation show in Cleveland at the old Muni stadium, he put on a hell of a show.

[@richierugs6544]

MC5 most little known of the great early american pre punk bands of them all----they were great , aggressively exquisite

[@70schild420]

We need to go back to made in America.I was raised around Motown.the stooges were my first rock love

[@zipperpillow]

The Potawatomi were from Detroit too. What happened to them?

[@johanemersongrobler]

Not a single mention of Sixto Rodriguez, God bless his immortal soul. He’s as big an influence for the regrettably few American musicians who know his music as Bob Dylan is.

[@klmullins65]

This documentary may have been made before The Sugarman story became known

[@zipperpillow]

Tell us more.........We want to know.

[@Dropdead313]

The documentary louder then love is a great story about the grandee ballroom, which is awesome

[@eddiemuniz761]

KISS was the band that Detroit first took seriously and embraced when they sold out COBO hall in 1975 upon the release of Dressed to kill on Neil Bogarts Casablanca records which was recorded at electric lady studios in New York City.They wrote the anthemic Detroit Rock city with a sobering story!!!!!!

[@zipperpillow]

Pose over Performance. Kiss was never more than an average garage band, and much, much less than many garage bands you've never had the chance to hear, maybe from your own neighborhood too?

[@jimbeller7948]

Good, but no Bob Seger? Kind of a big whiff there.

[@Musique61414]

No doubt. Biggest individual to come out of Dtown

[@fooddood]

He might have been asked. I live near Bob Seger. He's famously private and shuns attention. This documentary is about the revolutionary sound and the activism that went on in Detroit. This is when the MC5 wrote songs like human being lawnmower and motor city is burning. Bob was writing about Hollywood nights. Different art, different focus.

[@recordcastle1118]

The Bob Seger System did the song " 2+2=? " and Bob Seger and the Last Heard wrote " The ballad of the yellow berets " both about the Vietnam war. Bob's songs during the late 1960s were HEAVY music.

[@uprebel5150]

Not a lot of people can honestly say that a Beatle wrote a song especially for them.

[@zipperpillow]

Good stuff, the radio of my childhood, the sirens of my childhood, and the over-stepping law enforcement and School Principals of a life lived in and around a city that was never pretty, gray concrete and garbage, broken windows and boarded up brick businesses, never enjoyable, mostly oppressive and too often just simply ugly and neglected, like a wound that never healed.

[@Bill5071]

It was beautiful in the 40’s and early 50’s when I was growing up. The Paris of the Midwest.

[@zipperpillow]

@@Bill5071 It was probably only beautiful before Cadillac built the log fort in 1701. Good fishing, plenty of firewood. Since then, it's been a dump, getting dumpier.

[@Cowplunk]

I was hoping to hear about some lesser known bands in the Detroit scene. The Amboy Dukes, the psychedelic group that spawned the career of 70s rock hero Ted Nugent, wasn't even mentioned.

[@firewalker1372]

Uncle Ted!!!!! Dude is amazing with a damn guitar.

[@Truckngirl]

I came here to say this. I think that some KZbin creators can't separate the art from the artist, and they have an attitude toward Uncle Ted. Say what you will about him, he's a great guitarist. He had a Billboard charting song in 1968 when he was 19 years old!

[@zipperpillow]

Ted, is that you? Don't be pissy. You never mattered. You're also not that good. Really.

[@mac8841]

Haterly Village 15 mile Ryan / Drummer. NOW that was the Sub back in The day.

[@josephelden4573]

I'm glad the BBC did this documentary. Downriver boy here and if anybody from the States did this it would be shitty.

[@katrussell6819]

Detroit is back, Baby.

[@hecanseeme8210]

Sorry but that’s just funny. I wish it was true. It’s still one of the most dangerous places to live. They have gotten the downtown under control for the most part, but it used to be one of the pivot points of the planet.

[@noorzanayasmin7806]

I hope it would be back. It is getting maybe better but it is still ghost of what it used to be

[@zipperpillow]

Back to what? Miami? Shawnee? Ottawa? Huron? Potawatomi? French? English? Canadian? Virginian? Kentuckian? Ohio's wetter, swampier fish camp? Cadillac was a prick who overcharged his supporters then got sent down to New Orleans. There's a song. Detroit got sent down to New Orleans. Play it Jimmy.

[@davemarr7743]

No mention of Mitch Ryder & The Detroit Wheels? WTF..

[@JimFry]

Baker's Keyboard Lounge.

[@carymisenar862]

My very first concert was Alice Cooper and it was just after John was released and he introduced Alice😎 I was 12

[@uprebel5150]

The shots of the bright sun with The Renaissance Center are not from the 60s because it wasn't completed until 1977.

[@Bill5071]

I thought the same thing. There were several shots of the Ren Cen.

[@marcusbrothers5221]

The temptations on acid is ironic foreshadowing. Norman Whitfield eventually did make the temptations psychedelic.

[@jamesmccormick875]

Ok, no talk about Grand Funk?

[@glenndavis479]

Saw Iggy at rock above the falls Victoria Australia.

[@zipperpillow]

Dude, I saw him in a KZbin video! I was sitting in my brother's chair! How awesome.

[@ronaldsmith2965]

Its mid- western, because compared to the eastern hub. Chicago was western until people finally ventured way out west past the Mississippi river.

[@phylliselizahb1041]

RIP, John Sinclair (2024). "Guitar Army" book to read (but just a guy like every other guy)

[@colonialstraits1069]

No disrespect but the Stooges > Alice Cooper. Greetings from Detroit. Thanks for posting.

[@ljiljanamilos9292]

KICK OUT THE JAMS is the best live album.

[@jimmycain8669]

The MC5 is the best band to ever come out of Detroit. Kick out the Jams mfers on some records others brothers and sisters dubbed in instead. I got it both ways because they were my favorite band.

[@tomstiel7576]

the best,,,,,c'mon man get real

[@Alphastare23]

RIP brother Wayne Kramer!

[@phylliselizahb1041]

1 of the most stolen records @ WRUW was "Maggot Brain" (Funkadelic). Dunno how many times we hadda replace it.

[@ALVINEL-e4v]

Detroit was the Pioneer of R&B, Soul and Popular Music, before NYC, and Los Angelus!!! Guaranteed!!!!

[@thegrievancegordieshow9882]

glad my band Grievance Committee was part of the 1980’s hardcore rock scene 😎

[@farmboypresents9977]

Really interesting. No techno tho. Detroit techno is a thing.

[@japzbene1562]

All these videos praising The MC5, The Stooges, Alice Cooper but no one ever mentions Bob Seger. Lucifer or especially 2+2. Fantastic Early Seger.

[@Lens.of.curiosity]

RIP John Sinclair

[@traviscutler9912]

People like to shit on producers BUT sometimes they were the reason the artist successed.

[@kerimeyer4129]

Awesome...

[@marcusbrothers5221]

I always thought it was cool that the Who and the MC5 used their country's flag as their trademark

[@coldspring624]

Look at it now.

[@jeffcrampton4771]

I lived this my uncle Bill owned the Wamplers lake pavilion iggy pop Bob Seger and the System Ted Nugent and the Amboy dukes the great shakey Jake

[@ljiljanamilos9292]

Even ALICE was cool back then

[@operator1717]

They still got Jack White and Moodymann tho.

[@PeteOrmond5678]

Mick Collins too

[@christophermoebs5514]

I was a 14 year old on vacation in Oscoda when the Detroit riot started. Notrh of town was the Army Base so we saw the convoy of military vehicles headed for Detroit. Later I saw MC5 and the Stooges live several times and I would see George Clinton around town once in a while. As for the Detroit Police two friends and I walking down Michigan Ave. were jumped and beat up by the fascist piggies in1972. I shared a bottle of Ripple with Alice Cooper in 1971.

[@ljiljanamilos9292]

Detroit was a hot spot back then. Music changed thanx to JOHN LEE HOOKER,MC5,STOOGES, i can go on and on. Stooges were from Ann Arbour

[@ljiljanamilos9292]

I love MOTOWN, 70s stuff,darker, more psychedelic, they stole from SLY & CLINTON

[@Ejb905]

Alice Cooper was from Detroit originally, he wasnt an outsider.

[@Detroit1967]

Lived in East Detroit, Lincoln Street.

[@Ejb905]

I think he moved with his family to Phoenix in the 60's. Then his band moved to LA I think. I know he was discovered by Frank Zappa, AC played at the rock and roll revival in Toronto in 1969. Detroit also had some good punk and hard-core bands and scenes. With probable climate change and possible lack of water the Midwest and NE USA should see a revival with people moving back. The infastructure is there, there's tons of water, perhaps govts won't fuck it up and attract people and create jobs. I've only been to Motown 1x for a Tigers game at Tiger stadium. It was the best place I've ever seen a game and the people were super cool

[@richierugs6544]

holland dozier holland is america as it ever got---the brille building was candy ass in comparison

[@marcusbrothers5221]

Brother Wayne Kramer

[@marcusbrothers5221]

Rambling Rose!

[@JerryWalker-u3p]

I think its a stretch to call Detroit Midwest its a northern city that is correctly called motown

[@tylerthompson1842]

“I’m gonna kick em out!!”

[@marcusbrothers5221]

10 for 2

[@JosephHuether]

…and then Motown moved to LA. Oh well…..

[@marcusbrothers5221]

Elected

[@marcusbrothers5221]

Steve "sonic" Smith!

[@larryhall7998]

FRED

[@adp5R3x]

Englebert

[@user-jd9fl2zx2u]

Sinclair's line at the very end, about how Detroit just got washed over by America was very profound This video doc was great. Thank you

[@marcusbrothers5221]

I got a right

[@dsgp7835]

Phooey, the Stooges were fantastic. The band was great, Iggy was the perfect voice for the band. But, when Iggy started to assault audience members thinking they weren't into it enough he ruined the atmosphere instead of juicing it up. His self mutilation on stage greatly muted the groove. The band was absolutely great without his antics.

[@rodentcafeteria]

No mention of Ted Nugent? He's not going to be happy about that.

[@marcusbrothers5221]

Something in the water....joke intended

[@ronaldsmith2965]

What happened to Ted Nugent and Bob Seger.?

[@Truckngirl]

Too bad you can't contain your politics and separate the art from the Artist. Say what you will about Ted Nugent, he is one of the finest guitar players that ever came out of Detroit. Shame on you! He had a Billboard charting song when he was 19 years old. Native Michiganian, raised in Detroit. Without a mention of Amboy Dukes makes this documentary lacking.

[@doriandenard5846]

This documentary is nearly 20 years old. It's about film editing it down for time rather than current politics. Had nothing to do with that.

[@BarbaraPineda-v9p]

Midwestern states, detroits, it's a twn, or cities, not a states, michians, it's a states,

[@SteveArnold-ue9hm]

Where's j geils

[@RossHMay]

even though they reigned supreme in BarryGordieHoweTowne, they were originally Chi-Lite City. i know, played highschool hockey at the Olympya agains his travel team from Chicago, with EddZo. Cheers .JG band kicked ass.

[@leemelone6482]

J Giels where from Boston but adopted by Detroit. I’ve seen them many times at Cobo and the always left the place in a shambles. What a band Nugent also high energy

[@clydekimsey7503]

They were from Boston

[@Detroit1967]

Bad boys from Boston, big in Detroit, recorded 3 live albums there.

[@user-wy1dl2me2p]

Bob Segar or Ted Nugent anyway Ziggy sucked .

[@RossHMay]

man. ''n' eye almost thumbed up yer reply. Cheers anyhoo.

[@RossHMay]

i dig Zig. Biggliest Time.

[@JerryJohnson-b1q]

just enough for the city is a great song epic video

[@MarcOrtizdeCandia-qi8yb]

Michigan is in the North of America, North of the Midwest. Come On! Motown moved to Los Angeles.

[@nathancoleman7235]

Has MC5 ever been kidnapped?

[@marcusbrothers5221]

That Lennon song sucked

[@marcusbrothers5221]

Detroit bands are so crunchy....so is the water. I'm done.

[@joedoomsdaypio4374]

A little disappointed Russ Gibb wasnt mentioned or given the credit he deserved

[@bcam266]

I’m 1950,, like Jessy Jackson “ I was there”. The Grandy Ballroom, the 1969 Halloween concert red wing stadium , stooges , Ted nuggent and pink micro dots.. peace pills via Leary who didn’t get in,, bel isle 67 summer of love,, dang

[@thisthat283]

Lol "Mid Western City" actually nowhere near the Middle or the Western US lol It's in the East of the US. And literally, that quote 4 out of 5 cars rebuilt in Detroit lasted only 4 years. Japan took over then the rest of the world.