Motorbikes Are Changing... For The Worse?

[@TheChewieboy]

first big boy bike at the right old age of 30 / passed this year - 2008 Suzuki GXS 650f paid £1500 for the bike & £600 for the year "full comp"👍

[@NathRides]

Ay well done mate! Great choice of bike, make sure to take it easy!

[@mrfill9999]

I love the 4 pots. Got an FZ6, ZZR600 and a ZX6 and love them all - but them I'm an ancient old git of 72 who never grew up. I'm supposed to aspire to an 'adventure' bike or one of those American agricultural , massively heavy over-chromed things. But I don't like bikes that need a step ladder to mount or ones that weigh as much as a planet. Fortunately there are still loads of old 600s around and they're cheap as chips because the kids sold them for their 'adventure' look bike or the 'retro look' bikes. Suckers... Don't fall for the marketing bullshit.

[@NathRides]

Never too old to ride a motorbike! Good to know you're still riding, I like my old 600ccs. Still very reliable!

[@cloudbasenirvana]

Not quite 72 but in my 50s I ride a CBR1100XX Super Blackbird and I ride the mountains in Wales lots and at all the bike stop there are always guys in their 70s and now and again I get chatting to guys in the early 80s still riding big powerful bikes in the mountains.......never too old.

[@joebloggs1317]

Old rider on a ZZR1100D, love to get over to Wales for long weekend blasts, see very few actual sports bikes over there, more adventure style bikes. And this is probably where the market for new bikes has gone. I still prefer the style of the 80/90's bikes, so will hopefully still be on them until I can't ride any longer. As for torque vs BHP, torque wins every time, you may enjoy screaming your R6 up and down the gearbox but if you ever get a bike that pulls just as hard from low rev's I promise you won't want to go back. I change up at 6K and leave most other vehicles on the road with little effort. Exiting bends is effortless, brake, hit the apex, hard on the gas and let that torque fire you out of the turn. Someone suggested buying heated handle bar grips but if you can put up with the styling, handle bar muffs are the business, sure they look crap, but you can ride in summer gloves all year round. Once, as an experiment, I removed one glove in mid-winter and rode for about 10 miles on a freezing cold morning and my hand was as warm as it was in the glove I took off. As for the large capacity superbikes, unless we get more younger riders coming through, there will be very few buyers, many of us old gits either are to arthritic to ride them, or will be soon. Enjoy your R6 bud, but please keep a little further behind cars unless you are planning to overtake.

[@johnpaulwray4121]

Nice bikes R6 I've just gone and bought a R1 1999 model mate in red white

[@NathRides]

Bet that's a blast that bike, there won't be sport bikes about for much longer, I think you're right and they'll shift to naked/adventure for more money. I cant wait to buy heated gloves, its on my list next month! I'll keep further back, thank you for the suggestion 👌

[@cloudbasenirvana]

I'm an old rider also, I ride a CBR1100XX Super Blackbird and I live in Wales - oh what joy it is......heheheee.

[@joebloggs1317]

@@cloudbasenirvana Yep, should be law that all riders ride the Newtown to llangurig road at least once a year.

[@Icem4n84]

I've been riding since I was 7 and I'm now 40. I passed when it was one test or direct access. I passed at 17 and had to wait 2 years before I could ride what I wanted, while racing a 750 at weekends just made little sense to me. It is stupid expensive to get started on bikes now, if you ride in winter, get heated gloves. Best purchase you'll ever make! I'm pleased there are a few new developments such as automatic options, what I am annoyed about though is the constant push for tech. I do not need a keyless key, or a fancy tft. It looks nice but is expensive to fix when compared to an old fashioned tacho.

[@NathRides]

I can agree with you there, I love having a key instead of a plastic circle 😂 Its too expensive these days, bikes used to be much cheaper than cars

[@flibbertigibbet6200]

Got a brnd new Zh2 atm and a GSX 1400 restored like new, 21yrs old and 9k mls. Just come from a Ducati X diavel S which was a bone rattler. Love being back on 4 cylinders, especially with a supercharger bokted on pmsl. Lovely and smoooooth

[@IsaacF4239]

I went to the nec too, and I also missed the aprilia stand as well, haha!

[@NathRides]

Haha, brilliant! What was your favourite bike there?

[@IsaacF4239]

​@@NathRidesI was looking around for the 125 cc's (the reason i started watching you) and found the gsxr 125 was stunning. What was your favourite?

[@lawterian]

I’m a new rider, currently on a 2024 MT-125 and I’m not liking what I see, found out there is a “Pure” model of the MT-07 in Europe where it uses the the older LCD screen and doesn’t have that nonsense phone technology, it’s like €1000 cheaper. Wish we had this in UK because our insurance are extortionists.

[@NathRides]

We have that model in the UK too, the MT-07 2014-2018 with the LCD screen, I have loads of videos on it :)

[@lawterian]

@@NathRides I'm talking specifically about new 2024 "pure" models with the older LCD compared to the iPad they have now :)

[@zedddddful]

Honestly i don't mind bikes getting a bit smaller I'm on a 06 tuono1000r and it's brilliant but i think my next will be the 660 tuareg more than enough power for commuting and touring I've rode 600's, 125,s,900,1000's since 2009 you can make anything work.

[@NathRides]

I bet that's a nice smooth ride, 06 was an elite year for bikes

[@GhostRider020]

Reminds me of the time I got caught in freezing rain 30 miles from home. Nowadays, I would pull over and wait for salt trucks.

[@NathRides]

Bet that was freezing cold, sometimes you gotta push on

[@twowheeltherapy8695]

Hello, have you tried changing the Co settings? It only changes the AFR closed loop where you seem to have a problem.

[@NathRides]

I have no idea what that is, I'll do some research and find out! Thank you!

[@twowheeltherapy8695]

You adjust the air to fuel ratio between 1k/ idle and 3.5 k. If you have an aftermarket air filter or exhaust, you change the settings depending upon the modifications you make. Ignition on ,killswitch off and if you hold the reset and trip button you go into diagnostic mode and Co adjustment for cylinder 1&4 and 2&3. Just remember to have 1+ above for cylinder 2&3 because they don't get the same air flow as 1&4 so you add 1+ to have more petrol to help cooling.

[@twowheeltherapy8695]

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[@oldbag3043]

I got three bikes and there all straight fours and I won't buy anything with less than four cylinders

[@kujouk]

I'm one of those 50 plus (60 plus actually 😉 ) so maybe I'm the one the new bikes are aimed at. I've currently got a 2007 Daytona 675 and Street Triple 765 RS, I've had a few bikes over the years. Low down torque is great but I used to have two strokes so I do like to hear the high revs.

[@HarryElves]

I don't ride yet but planning all naked bikes

[@NathRides]

Great choice, any particular brand you prefer?

[@HarryElves]

Yahmaha mt 125 and then a mt 07 for a2 and cbt

[@lawterian]

@@HarryElves I’m currently on the MT-125 and want to get the MT-07 next spring but looking at how the new models are like, it’s time buy an older model like 2021/22 sooner than later

[@HarryElves]

Yeah that's true

[@Crosshatch1212]

Nice Honda 400 hundred four and bandit 600 .both mint .reply look purchase

[@talbi89]

Great video dude you done good for being conscious about road condition etc, currently ride a 2018 Suzuki GSX-S 750 lovely machine with enough torque and doesn't really require revving it to the moon although it can be hilarious and fun when you do 😂😂 , its the only 4 cyc bike I plan on keeping for as long as possible, I would love to have a Yamaha Tracer 9 GT+ to go along side it with that glorious triple but one can only dream I suppose.......

[@NathRides]

Thank you mate! Bet thats a nice ride though, just the right the amount of power everywhere them 750s, Im dreaming of an MT-09 as a commuter at the moment haha

[@Hagrid216]

£214 at 22? I was running £1100 on a 2014 ER6F at the same age

[@NathRides]

Haha, I was 21 ;) I was very lucky though, 5 years no claims at the time

[@davidker7256]

Costs me £90 a year fully comp on a 2300cc bike at 39 year old. Happy days

[@mojouk8935]

I passed A in march from a CBT at 36, Bought a street triple 765 RS 2024 from York A1 moto, fully comp is £290 next year said to be £220 or so from bike sure, however a mate of mine has the MT07 2016 he held his A2 for Year and half longer than me, his first comp was £1400 and renew was £2000! this year! I mean hes more experianced than me on the road abiet his age 22, but you would have thought his would have dropped! Not looking forward to the new road tax Its red street triple, i wanted the mid range as im a hobbit at 5ft4'' its lower 10mm and smoll seat! RS has options to lower which is ideal, You get abit more power and brembo brakes which have soooo much more stoping power!

[@NathRides]

It all seems to be completely about age, it makes no sense. It should be based on experience and previous vehicles. I've never felt the raw stopping power of Brembo yet.. maybe my next bike

[@sandywatson5558]

Piaggio zip 50 2 stroke, good fun but rebuilding a 125 rn and can’t wait to ride a real bike

[@NathRides]

Bet thats a fun starter mate! 50ccs can teach you a lot!

[@lr6474]

im saving to get mod 1 and 2 and then im gonna get either a cbr600rr or more sensible idea a yamaha fazer s1 still a 600 but it keeps most of the power up high in the rev range.

[@verdeboyo]

Hey Sir, I too don't understand Yamaha's crazy decision to not sell any R1s and R6s for the road. It's a crazy decision to do this and expect the R9 to be the replacement. I could see the R9 being a good R6 replacement but no way would it even touch the sides compared to a R1. I do look forward to seeing it in BSB and WSBK Super sports cat tho. My last bike was a 2008 R6, blue with factory Gold wheels and gotta say that cosmetically it is very relevant in 2024, aging better than a very expensive wine, still awesome bike. I cannot believe you didn't get a close up view of the Aprilias because of the crowds. Aprilia have a really awesome lineup for 2025, their bikes tick all the boxes in all the Cats for me, I do think they are missing a Motocross Cat tho. I'm a proud owner of a 2017 Aprilia RSV4-RF Superpole which see 90% track and 10% road so I am praising the Aprilia camp.

[@NathRides]

Hey! I can't believe it also, I was hoping maybe they'd replace the R1 with an R12 or something 😂 it's a shame I missed aprilia as they seem to be the only brand making CCs across the board still. They've got loads of options for every licence. The R6 still holds up in 2024 in looks, I think 2007-2015 gens look better than the newest gen of R6. What made you go for the Aprilia RSV4RF

[@verdeboyo]

​@@NathRides You and I think alike on the 2007-15 R6 (13S model) and they still hold a good used price. Long story really, but the short of it is, I struggled to get insurance on a big litre bike after having my 2004 R1 stolen, so I bought myself a nearly new 2006 ZX6R for work, then our offices moved to Croydon, my home, so I got rid of the awesome bike, then decided I was missing bikes after 6 months, so bought the R6. Then in 2017 I did my first trackday on the R6, it was bloody good on track and as you do with track days, I got hooked on like on crack. So in 2020 Covid times, I thought I'd try something Italian. I always loved the RSV4 looks cos the tail is so tiny it looks like a Moto2 bike. So bought a low miles RSV4 Factory APRC. Completed CalSuperbike School 1,2 and 3 and just hit the track with it. October last year I stepped it up to the RF, which is a real gamechanger with the addition of auto-blipper and even better brakes, upgraded Ohlins TTX and performance is crazy. It gets lots of track time as the King's highway is riddled with pot holes and 20mph sections. Makes me feel like I'm Max Biaggi! 🤣That was the short version!🤣👍🏻

[@ash0787]

Never touched a motorbike I think I went on a quad bike once but I know these roads except the first one which looked yuck, they used to have a fighter jet near there where all the military stuff is, not sure if its still there.

[@NathRides]

You've got to try it one day! And yes, its close to where I was, i think its still there

[@redtela]

You keep your inline 4 with it's clutch cable. I'll keep my inline 6 with hydraulic clutch spitting 160 ponies out the back. I did Direct Access yonks ago, and last year bought a brand new BMW K1600 GTL... which BMW themselves promptly refused to insure me on (because it was "too new" - damn right it is, YOU just sold it to me and haven't built it yet!)... I believe 1st year insurance on that was £1100 or so, and I'm double your age. This year it's less than half. If you want to stick to Yamaha and want supersport inline 4, R1 RACE or R1 GYTR - if the bank balance is compatible. The bikes are available, no-one promised they'd be cheap.

[@NathRides]

That sounds fast ;) Pretty bad that they won't insure you on that haha. My next bike will probably be the Yamaha MT-09 as they're better on fuel 😂

[@redtela]

@NathRides I wouldn't be interested in an R1 these days to be fair. The ST1300A2 is £78 to insure, 22years old, 120bhp when new and plenty of luggage space. The K1600 is as near to superbike territory as anyone would care for owning on a public road, complete with quick shifter and heated seat for the wife. The single cylinder gasgas is for getting my kicks around the farm 👍

[@NathRides]

@@redtela I don't think it's sensible for me to get one, too little fuel economy etc. My next bike will probably be the MT-9 with the split headlight (2017 model) That looks a good ride

[@shutinyanks]

I wouldn't just say its the factor of emissions being forced upon manufacturers. Biking as a whole seems to be in decline. In my view the standard of the roads is now shocking compared to what it was 20 years ago. Classic example in any video you post. They aren't up to any kind of standard. I've nearly had several offs on a single day out due to just how poor they are and it always leaves me just scaling down the riding time since it's just often more dangerous than it is fun

[@NathRides]

I can completely agree with every point you make here, the roads are painful and everything is too expensive. But hey, at least bikes have their own iPads instead of clocks haha

[@Edsdrafts]

I don't get it. You are on 18 year old bike man, so much tech came into play. Smooth quickshifters, wheelie control, cornering ABS, traction control, cruise control etc. Also, have you tried other bike types other than hypersports? Naked is a hoot to ride. I honestly have no idea why people are suffering sports bikes on public roads. Track, sure, other than that get something fun. Even MT-07 would be a blast in comparison. Besides new ones have all sweet stuff in them. Honda is releasing Hornet 1000 next year, another great bike. Sure new emission limits are annoying but beats stuttering R6 in cold weather 😅

[@NathRides]

Scroll back 3 months on my channel to see my MT07 ;) I've always loved super sports, they're really fun to ride! Hornet 1000 sounds like one hell of a ride!

[@focusmicro]

Going to order a CBR650R!

[@NathRides]

Awesome! Which colour?

[@doghous3]

i'm not a fan of the electrification of all bikes (you know waht I mean). even the mt07 has just had it. I mean, it's okay, but would be nice to have the option of having all that gash removed. ride a mt07 '21 - commute daily and 'tis a fun bike.

[@jacobwhite9961]

6:24 but you didn't do an AM for a 50cc did ya :p

[@rhombus2490]

any tips on lowering insurance costs? i checked a few months ago for a 125 insurance and it was around 1200, i check now after getting a cbr125r and its 2 grand. i cant afford that lmao

[@NathRides]

Yeah insurnace companies are scammers but there's way to bring it down. First way is today security such as biketrak or datatool, next would be to lower annual milage but best thing you can do is call them up Remember not to lie either, if you get caught out, your insurnace will get invalidated then it'll be even more expensive 😅

[@rhombus2490]

@@NathRides damn so i cant even say that i aint got a modified exhaust lmao. cant help it it came with the bike 😭 i just dont get how it can increase almost 1000 quid in a few months

[@NathRides]

@rhombus2490 some insurance companies don't need you to declare exhausts, check the terms and conditions. Have you tried comparison sites?

[@rhombus2490]

@@NathRides i have, i just did it again and put down that i had a tracker too, still comes out at 2200 from lexham insurance. thats the only one on there that will accept my bike apparently

[@NathRides]

@rhombus2490 wow that's expensive for a CBR125. Have you tried adding a named rider such as your dad?

[@yamaharevsyourhart]

bicester near Northamptonshire tbh

[@brodiebtw]

6:25 😂😂

[@Doru-10]

23 and I got a 2001 zzr600 unrestricted with my insurance being 268

[@GhostRider020]

Yamaha has for some reason decided to neuter sportbikes worldwide. I am so glad I could still get a GSX-R750 in Canada. Thank you Suzuki!

[@NathRides]

Literally 🤣

[@snakeman9902]

TBH, I much prefer torque over top speed now, the bike I ride, it is impossible, to reach max speed/Hp.. It offers both torque and too speed..

[@oldbag3043]

My bikes are a 98 fiteblade 900RR a Bandit 2005 1200s and a Busa 2004 and none of them have riders aids and I would not want them either

[@GhostRider020]

"Usable" is BS newspeak for weak. I use all the HP in my Gixxer with no problem.

[@NathRides]

Haha, I'd like to keep my license tbh 😂

[@zedddddful]

Unless you are ghost rider or on track nah you don't come on bud.

[@oceanforth21]

@@zedddddful well he certainly wants to be ghost rider with that name lmao

[@dogmadogma5398]

Insurance is totally crazy

[@NathRides]

It's getting worse every year, seems to also be getting harder to claim from what I've heard from some people

[@iMrPlenty]

Did I understand this correctly when you said you UNFORTUNATELY for your A licence? Insurance companies classify you as a "new rider" when you upgrade from an A2 to an A licence which hurts your ability to acquire insurance? In what stupid world does that logic come from..I hope that's not true.

[@NathRides]

That's what I was told, although I have 6 years no claims, I was once again a new rider

[@iMrPlenty]

@@NathRides And no wonder why theres a rise in uninsured drivers/riders every year...I understand that insurance companies are a business, but this is just fraudulent behaviour from insurance companies.

[@snakeman9902]

@iMrPlenty You think that's bad..9yrs plus NCB, riding over 35 yrs.. Last insurance quote(before this, which one I accepted).....5k...

[@CastrolHondaSP2]

Modern bikes all look like transformers. IE terrible. I can take my SP2 to any bike meet and it will get more attention than any modern bike there.

[@zedddddful]

Tbf I get loads of attention on my old tuono people always ask about it something about mid 2000's sport twins people love em.

[@NathRides]

I completely see that, especially the new MT line up

[@AndyRides7832]

abs isn`t that good tbh mate my Suzuki gsxr 125 2019 has abs and it don`t do me good it doesnt stopped you like it should in my eyes yes its good to prevent wheel lock but nothing else.

[@NathRides]

I can agree here, I love riding without ABS. Gives me full control!

[@garavonhoiwkenzoiber]

@andyrides7832 that's it's job. It's not for stopping quicker, it's for not locking up.

[@AndyRides7832]

@@NathRides oh any tips on r6 is like as am thinking on getting 1 when i get my full a

[@AndyRides7832]

@@garavonhoiwkenzoiber ye i get that and understand that but it also courses more issues like not to long ago i had to slam on and i didnt stop so really it didnt help me in anyway on that issue. other than that abs is good but not good at same time

[@cloudbasenirvana]

Yes ABS are good for the wet but on a dry day if you need to stop real fast the ABS could be your downfall - if you know your brakes well no ABS could save you in the dry as you can stop much quicker without ABS in the dry.

[@richardwoodhouse8397]

Insurance is a rip-off if you can ride a bike you can rid em all after a little experience.

[@rikstar.]

🔥 its all to do with emissions, the elites dont want you churning out 200bhp on a motorbike, plus with many men growing clits these days, the naked bikes are taking over. It seems men over 30 these day have "really bad backs and achy wrist" 😂 (shit diets)... grab a proper bike while you can

[@merlin1346]

Rewaco low rider VW powered.

[@Valanci555]

Yamaha is cooked.

[@NathRides]

Yamaha changed their game

[@NathRides]

Yamaha changed their game