Part 5/10: 3.6 Pentastar engine left cylinder head removal (the short cut)

[@ReNeu60]

super well done videos and deserve a 10 start rating. clearly showing the whole thing with no nonsense talking and repeating to get more video length. I have only thought about making a video of doing something and realized how much time is involved making sure camera can see what is going on and that they are actually turned on. Bought a van with hoping to change out a rocker only to find it was left so long that rocker failed and jammed actually bent the valve. So being an older vehicle I bought an engine but after seeing this video I am going to pull a head and only change that. My engine has less miles than the replacement so hopefully the right decision. Again thanks for the video even though its 8 years old it is helping today

[@Butterflytaxidfw]

I am so glad you made these videos so that I did not start to tear into mine, not having special tools. I thought this may have been a 1 hour job

[@MotorCityMechanic]

It takes a few hours for sure.....isolating where the noise is will be the biggest issue.

[@joshr3501]

Thanks for getting Chrysler warranty book times cut dude 🤪

[@adventures223]

Excellent video series you are the best tech i have seen cant you just take the cylinder head to a machine shop and have them fix the bad valves and seats wouldn't that be much cheaper than buying a new cylinder head this will be my first time doing this i have 80 psi on cylinder 6 rough idle and a serious misfire while van is stoped at stop light i am pretty sure it's the valves i guess I will know when I pull the head off

[@MotorCityMechanic]

There was a design issue with the head that was corrected with the revised version. They never explained it to use in any detail but something possible to have to do with the coolant passages I was once told

[@weselyminnikov1473]

Thank you sir these videos are a lifesaver

[@matthewpatterson9242]

Dodge journey 2013 replaced the cam shaft.and rockers..front exhaust.thanks Bro..With jesus and your very helpful videos ticks gone car runs smooth as silk.Thanks slot wife is happy saved 1000$ in labor. May jesus bless you.And I hope christ is your first love.

[@MotorCityMechanic]

Many thanks Matthew for the kind words and blessings. I am glad it went well and that money was saved. Thanks for finding the channel and videos. Make sure to subscribe.

[@aminjr]

Dodge Journey 2012 v6. First of all i want to thank you for all you do, You did help me to fix some of my rocker arms, i should share the video. Now after a year i have ticking sound again so i am thinking to replace all rocker arms so i don't have to do it again after a year or so. Is there away to replace them all without messing with the timing belt or aligning the camshaft arrows or TDC? Can i just make marks before i remove the crankshaft and then put it back aligned with the marks?

[@hectorquinones4824]

Hey dave whats up. When u get a chance can u do the right side blown head 3.6. Thankyou.

[@leedelaney5381]

Oops a great series of videos!

[@CameronInvests]

Hello @MotorCityMechanic. Could you also do the right head gasket without pulling the engine? I've got a 2011 Dodge Avenger 3.6, and the head gasket blew. It's only exhaust to coolant/pressure in overflow. So I'm thinking of replacing it. I don't know which side is blown, but I'm planning on getting both gaskets, but if I need to pull the engine to do the right side I might call my losses.

[@Butterflytaxidfw]

I cannot remember which head was replaced by dealer under the 150K mile warranty. Right after I did that one, the other head had lifter noise and I had a mechanic replace some rocker arms or possibly he just put everything back in place but, it worked for a long time. I believe he replaced #3 rocker arm so that is the back head right? it is the back head that is making the ticking noise again though

[@MotorCityMechanic]

Long idle time causes alot of the roller rocker failures that I have seen. They are always Taxi's or fleet vehicles each time (minivans that is). #3 is on the rear head.....right side of engine.

[@leedelaney5381]

How important is it to have the arrows lined up if the marks on the chain,camphors dimples and the marks on the bearing caps are all lined up? The arrows are approx. 1/4 inch off. By the way a series of videos.

[@MotorCityMechanic]

I recommend getting those marks on the outside of the cam phasers lined up….they should be spot on.

[@leedelaney5381]

Thanks. Can I do that by rotating the crank shaft or do I have to start all over i.e release timing chain tension, etc.

[@royalwilson6640]

Is there any room for the cam phasers to be just a few degrees off?

[@DavidPerez-jx2el]

Is it the same with the ac compressor?

[@TheBarrios69]

I need your help bro, I'm working on the right side (passenger) 2012 dodge challenger, when marking the timing Actuators and timing chain on the right side, do I line up the lines? And mark them? I know you did the left side and you made sure the arrows were pointing at each other for the left side. Then marked them. How do I line up and mark the right side? The lines on timing Actuators? Or the arrows on the right side? Any help is much appreciated.

[@mikemarshalltreasurehunter3914]

David I have a 2014 Chrysler 36 cylinder and number 6 missfire that necessarily mean is it common that the valves burn out and that Cylinder also It's not mis firing all the time Once in a while

[@Tonywateround-lr5by]

The issue are most likely well know to be cylinder 2. Correct me if im wrong.

[@Butterflytaxidfw]

You had me convinced I could do this at home in my driveway until we got to this one. All I wanna do is stop the ticking rocker arm or lifter noise but, this is too much.

[@MotorCityMechanic]

Being a taxi and idling alot....possible roller rocker or even a cam shaft lobe worn down due to a bad roller rocker as well. Its a big job but can be done....but special tools as you know are needed so I can understand being reluctant.

[@smartguy7718]

This is a question as opposed to a comment. Did not see an email address. I found your video very helpful as I needed to replace an intake cam phaser. As a check I rotated the engine and noticed that the match marks on the phasers and chain did not match. I rotated the engine several more times with the same results. I'm fairly certain the chain did not slip on the crankshaft sprocket during phaser installation. Should those match marks line up when the engine is rotated?

[@5jjt]

Smart guy, did you ever figure your situation out? If so, what went down?

[@nennypud]

Would you comment on the 3.2 I am thinking about buying a new Jeep Cherokee with that engine is it a good engine what problems do you have anything will help.

[@alexlazar651]

I am trying to change the valves on the left cylinder head on a 3.6 pentastar 2015 dodge charger. Is the procedure the same? I bought the special tools but I don’t know how to use them. They seem to not fit in like you are doing ..

[@chrismartine9913]

First off Motor City Mechanic, I'd like to thank you. Your guidance is helping people all over the world gain a much needed understanding of their vehicles which I find to be very important for many reasons. I do have a question for you. But first, a quick background: I am checking the rocker arms on my base model 2013 Chrysler 300 3.6L VVT V6. There is a tick coming from passenger side cyl head. Is there a way to rotate the cams manually, so the arrows face each other and the holes are perpendicular to the heads? I am hoping that will put the cams in neutral position ( No Load on Valves) Currently, they are pointed up towards the passenger side of the car, almost perpendicular to the heads. I want the cams in neutral position so that I can hand check the rockers ( wiggle them) to check if they've gone bad. I have not removed the serpentine belt, I have not loosened the sprockets. All I have done is removed the cylinder head valve cover. Thank you much for your guidance.

[@MotorCityMechanic]

Thanks for the kind words and feedback. When it comes to checking the cams....there is no est position for the valves. You will need to spend some quality time looking over the valve train first. Look at each cam lobe to see if there are any with damage. the outer edges will be cut down it there is. You may need to rotate the engine by hand by putting a socket and ratchet on the balancer bolt. Then you can slowly rotate it and take looks at the valve train until you have checked each cam lobe. With there being a noise....I feel the outer edge of a cam lobe will show you an issue. Then you know which roller rocker it is.

[@matthewpatterson9242]

I removed the spark plugs for easy .turn from crank shaft bolt and removed the serpent belt.moved easy .to get arrows to point to each other

[@ecoronadosaltfishingH2O]

Ok I think I can do this lol. I have a bad head gasket how do I access the parts 1-4 videos? I can only find this one. I’m ready to get this done! Lol please advise.

[@brandonpiner924]

Keep scrolling down you’ll find them that’s what I done just look at videos 7 years ago

[@ikerobregon9633]

Amigo yo tengo un problema Tu sabes como va la colocación de los aros que llevan los árboles de levas o anillos de el cmp ,los lleva en la parte trasera de los árboles,se los cambie por que los de el motor a anterior Se aplastaron, perdí el orden y el check no de apaga me marca el p0017 y está lento no encuentro la posición exacta

[@ocrun6765]

Thanks for the great video set! I'm replacing the valve seals on my 3.6 and have got all the way to removing the head cover (before looking ahead for instructions, oops). Decided to do some research to make sure I don't screw up the timing once I got a look at the cam sprockets. Now I'm stuck because I don't have either of those special tools and no way to borrow or buy one quickly. Any idea on another way to hold the gears in place or how to release the chain without those tools?

[@MotorCityMechanic]

You will most likely run into a few issues....the tools to hold the cams and the tools for the timing chain tensioners. You will need to remove the cams to get to the valve springs and then the seals. Its not common to need valve stems seals. If you using oil then the one item I highly recommend replacing the pcv valve....its a common cause of oil consumption and exhaust smoke. Otherwise its a job that will need the tools unless you plan on taking the front timing cover off and then the tensioners wont be an issue.

[@ocrun6765]

Thanks for the quick response. It was a PIA with everything I had to remove to get to this so it's a shame to have to put it all back together. But I can't get to the seals without removing the cam shafts so, damn. Regarding the seals, I had removed the cat and noticed a lot of tar inside the exhaust "manifold" where cyl 2 and 4 port out. Assumed it was bad valve seals leaking oil. Compression and leak down are fine. I did try to remove the PCV multiple times with just about every single tool I have. It's on a wrangler JK and so far haven't been able to loosen the two 25mm torx. Barely can get my hand between the valve and firewall. I bought a finger ratchet just to try this and can get to one scew but I couldn't break it loose with just my fingers. I'm ordering a flex head bit ratchet and will try that when I get it. But I doubt I'll be able to reach the bottom screw. Any good idea to test PCV while on the vehicle? I sucked air through it and didn't feel restricted.

[@MotorCityMechanic]

The PCV is hard to diag. It has a rubber seal/sleeve that slides over the cam shaft. The old one will be distored and the new will look like a small hole. It seems thats where the oil comes from on the ones I have seen. The torx screws can be a pain in the rear for sure. I use different tools like 1/4 torx drive bits and a flat 1/4 ratchet much like this one: www.zoro.com/general-ratchet-screwdriver-14-slot-2-cross-807sx/i/G2212673/?gclid=CjwKEAjwvMnJBRCO2NSu-Puc6AUSJAAf-OSUYZRODJLESRvFJVrEBQ4a6QxDBvdUpYR9wiPX5VVe_BoCnpTw_wcB

[@mopetron6828]

how often do you find yourself replacing the heads on the 3.6s?

[@83wildmustang]

Getting ready to remove my head. In the process of marking my cam phasers, chains and a mark on the cam bearing cap as well. Is it normal for my cam phasers to not be stopped at the same place as yours? My groove on my cam phasers isn’t lined up like yours? It’s sitting more at 2 O’ clock position. The arrows are pointed other direction. Do I still mark the groove on cam phasers even if they are different than yours?

[@mechanic.marina]

Hi Emily did you have the special tools? I don't have them wondering on a work around

[@83wildmustang]

Yes I had ordered the special tools and got my rebuild done 1.5 months later. Thanks for replying.

[@mechanic.marina]

@@83wildmustang I went ahead and took off without them...hopefully it works out 😅 love to see other women doing their own work!! Curious, how much did you end up paying for the rebuild on the head? Did you send it to a machine shop?

[@83wildmustang]

Yeah I took everything off down to the block, heads, timing cover and oil pan. I had a head gasket issue as well as ticking noise. So ended up with replacing a lot of parts since I was there. 149k miles went ahead and installed new timing chain kit, lifers, rockers, heater core and a bunch of other parts. Everything oil coolant mixture touched new. Total cost I spent including oil and coolant changes plus tools was little over $3k. Yes always good to see other woman mechanics too wrenching on their own vehicles.. 😁

[@Miguelgarcia888]

Does cylinder #4 have to be on TDC on the exhaust stroke ?

[@anon7039]

Question: if I put a strong rare earth magnet on the valve covers ABOVE the cam phase adjusters, can I ruin them? or do they need to actually touch something magnetic

[@MotorCityMechanic]

I would say dont. If you place them in a magnetic parts try.....it will damage them and they will be needed. I wouldnt chance it to find out.

[@davidjacobson3701]

Hey! Great video! I just got my valves replaced on the left side head of my 2.8L and the shop took off two brackets, one is a coolant hose bracket that goes on the rear and the other is a black bracket that I have no idea where it goes... could ya help me maybe?

[@MotorCityMechanic]

Evening.....2.8? Whats the year, make, and model of the vehicle?

[@southmississippimetaldetec4632]

MotorCity Mechanic 2.8 2007 Cadillac CTS

[@Butterflytaxidfw]

Is there a Cam Phase Kit for these and with a motor that has 279K is it worth it to replace these things or just overhaul the whole motor. I really do not want a new motor.

[@MotorCityMechanic]

Cam Phasers usually set codes and no other symptoms that I have noticed so far. The choice is yours.....I personally would just repair the issue myself, but I have access to the tools needed so cant expect everyone to have that benefit

[@Mike-kr3vu]

What’s the torque specs for the heads if you don’t mind me asking thanks

[@MotorCityMechanic]

Road To Kisses the torque specs and sequence are in the video series. Not sure which part without going thru them. Most likely one of the last parts

[@Mike-kr3vu]

MotorCity Mechanic I found it thank you I was working of pro demand and for the final torque it says to do 70 Degrees + 70 degrees dose that seem to much

[@jessegibboney4389]

What is the service interval for the timing chain? I can't seem to find this info anywhere.

[@MotorCityMechanic]

On the 3.6 there is no interval. Chrysler never gives an interval on the chain....just the timing belts when it applies. Thanks for the question. Over time if there is an issue with stretching......you would get codes related once the cam and crank sensors didnt sync up anymore or get out of the normal range.

[@lexmaximaguy8788]

timing chains are generally for the life of the engine. They never need changes. Unless the engine is neglected or their is a design defect in the chains..

[@Butterflytaxidfw]

Can I fly you down here to Dallas, Tx so that you can fix mine right quick? :)

[@MotorCityMechanic]

I do have family there lol. I may have mentioned it before lol. I speak to so many people I cant remember.

[@MassiveMediaOnline]

How much do your shop charge to replace the camshaft on a 3.6 Pentastar? Or can you provide me you contact info

[@the2120company]

all right! prepped by you! BIG THANKS ! now ready to fight. :) mystery. GUYS CHECK WITH MOPAR OEM HEADS VERY CHEAP!!!!

[@MotorCityMechanic]

There certainly are enough on the market to get that price lower. Thanks for watching and for the comment!

[@mikewilliams8273]

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[@supermediumtv7091]

All this just to change the damn heads Chrysler aint shit

[@MotorCityMechanic]

Thats pretty much the same basic procedure on all modern day over head cam engines. Doesnt matter the brand. Not as easy as the older push rod engines with the cams in the block.