Motorcycle camping first timer gear guide

[@Red19UK]

I did a long weekends camping round Wales in August with the Vango Halo 300, its great. It is on the heavy side, but from just using a tiny lightweight 1 man in the past, the space in this was brilliant. Also the double doors combined with airvents on the opposite sides was great, no condensation whatsoever and it hammered it down with rain the one night. Very impressed with it.

[@keef4937]

Why can't all KZbin how to guides be as good as this? Well done mate, nice one.

[@stuartb3502]

Keith Dace thanks Keith.

[@raoulduke7553]

Keith Dace - a bit long winded but if we checked Stuarts CV it wouldn't say to presenter of products reviewer, so yes good job

[@raoulduke7553]

Tv not to..

[@stuartb3502]

Phil Morris True ☺️

[@Ollybable]

@@raoulduke7553 m Pl

[@davidcooper6704]

There are endless combinations of suitable camping gear and we all have different priorities and opinions. I reckon you did a pretty good job with your choice of kit. The tent is certainly not overkill. It gives you sufficient space to store leathers, crash helmet etc. Nice video - it certainly held my attention. Thanks for sharing.

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks very much David.

[@mr.shannon6137]

The best touring kit I have seen on youtube so far. Bought a used V Strom 650 a couple months ago. Looking forward to taking my first motorcycle camping trip this spring. Videos like this make it so much easier and remove a lot of doubt and stress for first timers like myself. Thanks for the great video.

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks. Do read the comments from others as there are a lot of good (better) ideas and viewpoints in those. Hope you have good adventures this year. On the 'Strom!

[@richardrichard5409]

Great video, love that wooden panel table trick😎👍😊 I've toured France three times now starting from England doing everything from wet Somme area, to Alps to sweltering South. Few things I learnt being an old git. Anything light costs a fortune as it's made with back packets in mind.....you don't need it, you have a motorcycle to do the lugging for you. Your tent can be too small but, never too large.....the size and weight of a one tent compared to a 3 man really isn't an issue on a bike, afterall, its not on your back, both take the same time to pitch. When that extra space comes in handy is when the weather turns awful and you've got to get everything under cover and have wet riding gear to store in an effort to dry.... 'ish. Under canvas when it's pissing down ain't no fun in a micro tent touching ya nose and pointless too🤔😆 Aso soooooo much easier to do packing (other than the tent!) when more space available, likewise getting riding gear on in the mornings. Everything is much easier in a bigger tent. Most 3 man are snug even for 2 men...simply couldn't be without that space. Mine is a cheap but amazingly practical Gelert Rocky 3, nothing fancy never leaked, never blown flat in gales, never failed me...4kg yes but I'd rather keep the money I've saved for a few decent nights out. Petrol cookers are the dogs danglies, forget gas, gaz with NO common size or any other fuel. Petrols work just as well at freezing conditions, super hot flames very useful for first brew, fuel lasts for ages, you can check how much is left easily and, if you need more....well you're already carrying it, just need a small siphon tube, job's a good ern😎. Coleman Sportster stove is a must, spares everywhere if needed. I used to take a whole pot set but, only ever used the kettle and the frying pan which can be used for well, frying but, it can be used for everything else too and why bother with plates. So, after dragging around nesting this, folding that, set of pots n pans for a dinner party I've settled on two army mess pans....good enough for them, good enough for my needs. I maybe odd but I can't remember ever cooking up some Cordon Bleu affair, can of Cassoulet does me finecwith a french stick. Mobile charger pack, size of a two packs of fags. Two onboard USB/12v chargers....they seem to fail when needed most. Air beds take less room than a good self inflating mat....can't see why these awful things have caught on....if not on ya bike ya on your seat, if you not on ya seat ya on ya back, good nights sleep is everything and makes one a safer rider the next day. Super glue and bicarbonate of soda for repair broken anything....takes no room. Zippies n duct tape with roll flattened down (stamp on it!) are up there with the glue. Spare clutch n brake levers. Spare clutch cable ALREADY ROUTED in /on the bike. Small chain lube....long daily rides really dry the chain out, that chain gets hot. Tyre turds and track pump, forget CO2 cannisters, don't work on high pressure road tyres unless you have 30 onboard. But, remember you can't plan for everything so so don't bother. Stay safe.

[@stuartb3502]

Cracking tips. Thanks for sharing. Petrol stoves scare me as I know I’m clumsy enough to kick it over, but other advantages as you say.

[@TheJACKCOLORADO]

One thing I will say about carrying a large tent like that is, if you are an avid rally goer you will find it very useful. Having the extra room over three days to unload and store all of your stuff. I have always ridden with a large tent, 3-4 man, when attending rallies. Just food for thought.

[@johnnygross4415]

bigger tent riding solo, more more room to pack

[@practicalman45]

Great info. It is good to know all this if your are planning motorbike camping. My experience was 40 years ago: 5 months on the road, a couple touring two up. We shared the same pack and used backpacking gear of that time. A very sturdy wind proof tent, with separate waterproof fly (double layer tent) is a must, as there is no where else to retreat to (as in travelling with a larger enclosed vehicle) in bad weather. We'd also setup a waterproof lightweight nylon tarp just outside of the tent, if it was rainy. A larger sturdy tent is NOT a luxury if you have to spend several rainy days stranded in it.... One great tip I would pass along is to wire up a jack and plug on a long thin wire (thin speaker wire). One end had a VW car dome light bulb soldered onto it, the other end had a jack that plugged into the bike and connected to the motorcycle battery. We camped with a lot of other biker folks along the way who always would be struggling for light at after dark campsite setup. Our camp light rig was a big hit that lit up the whole campsite and always amazed everyone. It never ran the battery down enough to need the kick starter in the morning.

[@stuartb3502]

THere speaks a voice of experience :-) I 've always been pretty luck with weather, but you're right that's a completely different ballgame if you get bad weather for any sustained period. I did on a trip to Scotland but thankfully wasn't camping. On the light idea - worth having as a backup these days perhaps. LED lamps are quite compact, powerful and batteries last well.

[@garysheren9353]

You got every thing you will ever need shelter ,tools first aid kit what you need to prepare food .have fun do a video tell us what you think

[@sheikhyaboooty]

One tip, It is not especially cheap but it makes quite a difference. Instead of a sleeping bag take a down quilt, not feather and down as it is too heavy, ideally a double. It`ll pack down amazingly small and is very light. The best bit, either use it as a quilt sandwich on cold nights or single layer on warm ones, either way its snug, light, adjustable and best of all...feet have room to move about. Put this on top on a thermorest mattress, add a down pillow and it is as comfortable as my bed at home.

[@stuartb3502]

Good tip. I do find the mummy bags a bit restrictive. Can you show any links to suitable quilts as the ones I think of I imagine would be too bulky. Maybe they will stuff small in a stuff sack.

[@sheikhyaboooty]

Any quilt that is classed as "pure down" will pack down amazingly small, the thing to look for is a 90%down 10% feather mix, not a "Feather and down" as it is much bulkier. I use a double and I can pack it down to smaller than most sleeping bags with a compression sack, which is essential. The only other consideration is you have to be certain it`ll stay dry as it looses all its heat retaining quality if it gets wet.

[@sheikhyaboooty]

Shame you don`t like mummy bags., I`ve a pure down 5 season expedition bag that I no longer use and would be glad to be rid of.

[@ianmcbrayne5607]

+1 on the quilt. plus a liner so not to sweat directly onto the mattress.

[@ve3yjt]

What is the 5th season?

[@kerryholgate]

Very enjoyable. Ive been travelling around Australia for years on a bike, but still picked up some good ideas. Going lightweight is the key.

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks Russell.

[@douglasalexander4348]

I had a smaller tent. Then got the Halo 300. A bit bulkier but being able to sit up and have room to change especially if the weathers a bit meh, and the huge improvements in ventilation when warm made it my go to solo bike tent. My bike doesn’t notice the extra 1kg weight.

[@Loki1815]

I bought a Khayam Igloo Pop-up tent, erects in less than 30 seconds, in the late 80's and still use it now! Snugpak Merlin 4 season single Sleeping Bags, that can be zipped together. Self inflating mattress'. A mallet, you try driving the pegs into stoney ground in Spain... No chair. Army n Navy surplus cook set. None of this was particularly cheap but there again, I'm still using it all 35 years later, after Bike Rallies, CRMC Motorbike racing weekends, European trips, Hollan, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Germany and Italy. Magnum Hi-Tec Leather, waterproof boots. BMF Tail End Rally, Peterborough, clearance Rain Suits. Roof Boxer, flip up Helmet. I won't tell you how much I paid for it, it might get a Motorbike Journalist a finger wagging! Nice Video mate!

[@BrapBang]

I think we have very different ideas on what we pack but in the end we're both motorcycle camping. Nice video! It's well produced, passes on lessons learned and covers each item in detail. Hope you'll do a quick update after your next trip!

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks - I think there's an element of different needs for different types of trips (e.g. US/backcountry vs European road tour). Plus an element of your whole ethos on what a camping trip should be about. I'm clearly a beginner and some of what I ended up with comes from having not camped since school days and then doing a car camping trip with my wife. What I might be able to live with on a solo trip vs what would be acceptable for my wife are possibly different also. I'd recommend folks check out your "comfortably minimalist" videos as they give a fantastic viewpoint of the other end of the spectrum - taking far less than I show in this video. As I commented over on your channel I hope to continue learning from folks like you who have a lot more experience to share.

[@MrWeebsgm]

hin just a tip for you you were on about drying out your camel pack and water container what i do after useing both of mine is to get two old stile wire cote hangers open them up then form a cork screw affect make it small enough to fit through the filler caps bend the tip end back on itself then get an old nilon sock or pop sock over the end that you have bents into the screw shape feed it into the bag camel pack this will open up the bag to air and dry it so you do not get any mold growing in them ,,, i have used this meathod for years simple but it works

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks Gary - good tip.

[@ianmcbrayne5607]

my experience : do pack small, but if you do want to enjoy the next day do not compromise too much on comfort. The Helinox chair, the pillow, the tent size and the cook kit are all good items if you can handle the pack size. Instead of a bigger tent I prefer a separate tarp - so much more flexible. The small cook kit is good for minimalists, but I prefer cooking a good meal with fresh items, which needs good sized pots. Also keep mosquito spray and a hat/net for midges in your stuff - not only in Scotland.

[@AnotherHipster]

Great video, i'm going to add one of those folding chairs to my setup I think. With the water bladder I found leaving it in direct sunlight with the lid off [or in a greenhouse/shed is even better] and just letting the water drops evaporate out works really well. Or stick a hoover in there and try & suck all the moisture out, anyway great video very detailed

[@Merc-Rover]

I can highly recommended ToolTubes. Get the biggest your bike will take. They are perfect for the stuff you don't need every day like tool kit and hopefully first aid kit. I noticed that you don't have a "camping knife". I know laws are quite strict here in the UK but if you have a valid reason you can legally carry a knife. Super video with plenty of great advice.

[@stuartb3502]

Silver Van Man Thanks very much. I have a tooltube now. Actually on my second after a mounting mishap on the first! Has puncture kit etc. I take a multitool with a folding knife which is sufficient for campsite stuff. Agree that if I was going to go any more wild I’d take something better and could justify it. Thanks for commenting.

[@sidneyjr1560]

Great tips!!! I suggest a pump Air by foot, tolls for adjusting the chain and sproket, repair for tires...

[@boostedlss6450]

This year I'm trying out a small Geigerig 1200 backpack with a 3L reservoir, it's easy to access during the day and its useful in camp but the bag opens on the end, can be turned inside out and washed in the dishwasher. Drying is a snap. I also carry my first aid kit, phone, knife, snacks and any lightweight items in the pack needing frequent access, its essentially a tank bag with water I guess.

[@stuartb3502]

Cool thanks for taking the time to give a suggestion. I'm sure someone will find that useful. I have a similar day pack for walks, but might find it a bit uncomfortable all day. But it depends what you're riding and what other luggage options you have. I ride with a tiny Camelbak pack as I get dehydrated easily. I can ride with a litre or so in that and not notice it.

[@clifficus]

Great vid Stuart, even I learnt from it after 30 years of m/c camping, table is a stroke of genius, can I add, if you used “Bulldog clips” from a good stationers for holding sheets of paper together, place them across the table joint then fold the clips inward, would make it more solid, I can’t use that idea as it won’t work on BMW panniers, we both have much the same kit, though I wouldn’t change my Coleman 533 sport for all the tea in China, bought 2 about 30 years ago for £15 each, 2 ft length of small plastic tubing, never out of fuel, good luck mate and stay safe.

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks Cliff. Bulldog clips a good idea although it’s surprisingly stable as long as you pick a level enough space for the panniers to begin with. Out of interest which BMW panniers do you have? Does it have tie down points that are in the way?

[@clifficus]

Stuart B, My panniers are really integrated to the bike, it’s a Beemer 1200RT, look great on the bike but the last thing on this earth they want to do, is stand up on the ground on they’re own :-), so no table, half a dozen “tie wraps” are a very handy item to add to your tool kit, my tents a Vango Tempest 200, great for just me, Sleeping bag is a Coleman Biker, small and light but not warm enough, so use it with a Sea to Summit “Thermolite Reactor extreme bag liner, works ok but we all make mistakes, might have to rethink a new bag, also like you, and my Avatar, love coffee and can’t start the day without it, so use a 6 cup Italian stove top coffee maker, brilliant, 6 cup I hear you say? only makes a good sized mug, I can see your reasoning in the way you pack, to have all gear within the panniers and top box, good idea, neat and tidy, I hate a top box and at 6’ 2” keep hitting them with my boot, use a 45ltr bright yellow Lomo dry bag strapped to the sports rack, Sorry for waffling on Stuart, too early in the morning, stay safe :-))

[@GTOOtt]

Those small folding chairs are great. I found a Chinese knock-off one on eBay for £25.

[@merlinmess3793]

really good thanks... i massively over packed on a week away in Ireland.... i have learned from the experience :D

[@MultiOutdoorman]

Hi Stuart Remove the wooden dowels from the water carrier at home.... then store the water bag in the freezer between trips. Germ - free !

[@niteriderpdx]

Love the inclusion of contents or timeline of video topics. Very neat idea. Thanks for sharing.

[@stuartb3502]

Hi. thanks for the comment. LOL, I had to add that as my attempt at making a "quick" video was a dismal failure :-)

[@amlo0500]

What a simple and effective review and full to the brim with plenty of ideas for my first motorcycle camp. Thank you for your efforts kind Sir !

[@stuartb3502]

Andrew Jackson Thanks Andrew.

[@TrickyD1206]

Thanks for the vid. Its always good to see the perspective of another person weather they are a first timer or a veteran..........I have to get one of those cafetiere travel mugs.......oh dear good you've made my day :)

[@stuartb3502]

LOL - if you're looking on Amazon, there are two which are near identical. Get the one I mention as it comes with a drinkthrough lid and is not more expensive.

[@motorbikermiles1835]

Just watched a USA video on the Helinox chair. The man weighed 300lbs and his chair sank in soft ground so he slit 4 tennis balls and pushed them on the legs. It works. Just a thought on wet grass.

[@burtweedon4683]

I use 4 Pucks, tbh any thing such as 4 beer cans flattened will do the trick

[@Brayne01]

the 4 beer cans adding to the fun - once you have them empty and flattened you really need the chair.

[@ve3yjt]

a piece of blue camping mat (or yellow, evazote), or even one of those kids foam floor mats with the interlocking edges, makes a great base. You only need a piece slightly larger than the 4 legs of the chair. You can also use it for fanning a fire, kneeling on, in mucky areas, laying anything you don't want to set down in muck, standing on to wash your feet, windbreak for your gas stove, put between you panniers and exhaust to prevent heat transfer, etc, etc. A million uses, really.

[@MrSTAdventures]

Very nicely done, I am about to start ordering my camping gear and this video has helped a lot. Thanks for sharing :)

[@stuartb3502]

Quite a lot of other options now I think. A number of people have found knock off versions of the chair for example and one with a higher back. Other similar pillows around as well I think. All the best.

[@1Selous]

Would suggest the Vango Omega 250 (2 pers), or 350, (3pers), reason, ally poles, so if need repairing a fair bit easier lol. the vango bravo models are same but fiberglass pole. The omega goes down quite small.re Bags, i use down bag 2 season plus silk liner boots it to 3 season, im a 'warm' sleeper, mrs cold sleeper and has same bag but 3 season when not away unravel bag.great choice of mattress, i have exped down 7 with its own internal pump,

[@stuartb3502]

So sorry - your comment got flagged as potential spam by Google and being somewhat new to KZbin comments I didn't see it until just now.

[@1Selous]

ok no probs not sure why spam as registers and have a few you tube vids up as well

[@stuartb3502]

It must flag anything with a link perhaps. Nothing wrong with your comment. I'll keep a closer eye on notifications. thx.

[@1Selous]

link? no link in my post, although i did forget to put a space! i see now its blue might think it a link.

[@alanblanche5444]

Hi from New Zealand...very informative video-thanks-hope to get back there next spring...

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks. Hopefully I'll get to NZ on a bike one day :-)

[@alanblanche5444]

@@stuartb3502 South island is beautiful...

[@TheMilkybarkid69]

Great video Stuart, informative and helpful, well done

[@STho205]

I appreciate this for weeks long road trips, but it is overkill for the average one or two nighter. You need: A sleep kit (pad and blanket or sleep bag) A tent if it might rain (a single person 1x2x1meter budget dome is good enough for one rider) A towel or washcloth to washup dry up A little bit of food and tea or coffee A 1ltr water container (Nalgene) An $8 stove, $5 gas can for coffee and cooking. A cup, a metal pot, pan or boiler cup. My wife bought me a mess kit for $10 and it is boyscout tiny. A fork, spoon and pocket knife Some soap, salt/pepper. A battery lamp like a headlight A lighter. A warm shirt or sweater if it is cold at night. A knit cap is good too. All that can fit in one drybag strapped on your pillion. Whole kit less than $100US, $120CanAus or 80£ € I leave it all in my tiny bivy tent while I'm riding the mountains the 2nd day...then pack up in 5-10 minutes. I enjoyed your video. Nice presentation of nice purchased gear.

[@TheWaterboarders]

Great video. Here are some things to consider: First one is earplugs. Wax silicone ones are best for a good nights sleep. Personally I prefer a Trangia cookset which packs into itself and the fuel is available everywhere and is especially cheap in France. Lastly you should be able to fix your pick with your tools. So try some simple repairs using the tools you carry and whatever won't work leave behind. Add in some cable ties and some paracord!

[@britironjon7635]

I have the halo 200 ideal motorcycle tent loads of room best tent I'v had for touring been in some really bad weather with it no problems. great review

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks. Yes, I can imagine the two person version would be ideal for solo touring. cheers.

[@kevincorby435]

A nice vid, good to get other options of what gear to take.

[@notwocdivad]

Have you tried scraping a "hip hole" for when you lie on your side? Used to do that all the time as a kid because we didn't have air beds, mats or camping beds of any description in those days, even a sewn in groudsheet was "posh". Great fun

[@stuartb3502]

Lateral thinking, I like it! I think the coordination of hole, tent and mattress may be beyond my talents 😉

[@TheGazzatron941]

Good stuff, I use a lot of Karrimor stuff which you can get from Sports direct, it's great value and good quality. I have a Karrimor Panther 2 tent which is a similar 2 man tent which you can get for £63 and can't fault it at all. Rest of the stuff is pretty similar to what I have (just Karrimor branded) only I don't have panniers so have a Helinox table. Also taken a Weber go anywhere BBQ with me once (and I probably will again), all perched on a Speed Triple lol!

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks Gazzatron. Good tips. I would agree that for simple stuff they often have some unbeatable items and prices. I have previously bought a number of Karrimor dry bags of varying sizes which I think are very good and peanuts compared to others. Sadly my conscience won't let me shop there at the moment until they sort out their treatment of staff. Thanks for the other tips on the Helinox table etc.

[@kgsz]

to be honest I would have hard times trying to trust Karrimor again. They used to be great, but now any average Lidl/Mountain Warehouse beats it both with quality and price. Last two times I tried to use their "hiking shoes"... I started to regret that on the day I bought them - not only because they were uncomfortable, but the subpar quality became more and more obvious over time (the second chance I gave them - and I'm not using them for any serious hiking, but for very moderate city+country walks - because I assumed bad quality is an accident). @Stuart - thanks for top tips - and by top I understand also providing prices and full names of the gear - much appreciated.

[@TheGazzatron941]

kgsz not really tried any of their walking stuff, but the camping gear is pretty good quality. I mean as far as equipment it's all pretty much the same wherever you go as it's mostly made by the same people in the same factory. The tent though, and I can only vouch for the panther 2, is very good, strong, lightweight and very quick and easy to use. If I pack it away with the inner and outer connected it goes up in a few mins. I've been out in some pretty harsh conditions, wind, heavy rain and its stayed dry and upright (without guidelines). I would say it'd be a bit too cossie with two adults but it's more than comfortable for one.

[@John_Henry83]

I have seen a video on the Vango Tour 200 and was quite impressed. But Vango is a UK country and it does not seem that model is so here in the states.

[@stuartb3502]

I think perhaps you're right. I guess there are similar style tents, but I don't know which ones have v the same size/value. I did notice Nature hike on Amazon do a couple which look interesting - Cloud Up and Mongar. You probably want something with a full mesh inner in the USA for your better weather?

[@banditoo7]

Well produced simple guide to motorcycle camping. Subbed

[@flattop7359]

Thanks for taking the time to go through your gear. We're planning a trip in the US soon. Good riding

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Whereabouts in the US are you riding?

[@zr9115]

I'm about to go on my second motorycle camping trip. Thank you for the overview!

[@stuartb3502]

You're welcome - thanks for taking the time to comment.

[@peterandrews1512]

Enjoyed your video always interesting to see what gear other motorcyclists find for touring especially when camping

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks very much Peter. Lots of good videos from people out there with more experience than me. As a complete newb, I found some of the stuff talked about non-obvious so tried to do this vid from that perspective. Glad you liked.

[@jibjob6536]

holy smoley! you are a pack rat mate! that is a ton of stuff! I got all my kit down to about 25kg - a 2man terra nova voyager - fully road tested on many camping trips (old style one, latest versions even lighter now!), vango tarp that is elasticated on side attached to tent, once all guy ropes tied down solid in wind, small lightweight fishing tent pole stake thingy keeps a small pole in the ground to keep tarp at just above sat down head height which is all I want to cook under, chill out under etc. I did away with inflatable camp mats - exped etc, as eventually something would break on me, instead I now use a camping cot - luxurylite - orig from septic tank land, now thermarest do them, money well spent (granted I could just buy cheapo airbeds a few dozen times over for the same price, but its been around the world with me in diff situations & does its job well!) foam mat to protect tub floor in tent and to just crash on when needed. sleeping bag is Brit army one, big 3season mummy style, used to use an old german sniper one with the arm holes but it was too thin & got fed up waking up cold with 20 layers on underneath, now I get too warm & comfy - sleep better tho! cooking kit is a one ti pot deal w/lid which is sufficent for a brew, maybe boiling up some noodles in. I can use meths in pop can stove, twigs or an esbit fuel tablet thingy in the dual wall stove that everything all shoves into. little camp kettle for filling a flask - hot water stays hot longer for whatever its needed for, a silicon egg poacher thingy (doubles as pot lifter so no burnt fingers), ti pot cosy & a wee tiny saucepan are luxuries but ace for breakfasts when I feel inclined to DIY rather than just pop to a cafe or whatever on route. Sometimes take camp gaz cartridges & small pocket stove also if wanting to just make a quick brew & move on.couple of small dry bags with minimum clothing in for off bike, merino longjohns & thin merino jumpers sufficent for when temps drop either on or off bike, full protective kit on bike. 2 25ltr givi waterproof bags hold all gear in with a 25ltr sausage style tote drybag on top which has a few bits in with room for 'stuff' whilst on the go, tent goes on rear rack to air out during the day, packed up in a bag that was from another 1 man tunnel style tent which I sometimes use but only when doing over nighters. small toolkit, compressor, etc bike stuff. water bladder thingy to wear on bike (if in hotter climes but soon hardly gets filled to full) & a canteen style one which gets used when in camp more often than not. Mad thing is some ppl look at my kit & think wow! thats loads! but for me I got it down to a fine art for my needs. like I said about 25kgs roughly, can be used on my pushrod tourer or my bike with extra brum brum power. Sorry to waffle on but thought I would just chirp in & if it helps someone to get a few good bits of kit for them also then bob on. You soon know whats works for you & what doesnt, I remember jettisoning about 20kgs of kit years ago when I used to cycle tour a lot cos it was just too much weight for me. Thats what I love about motorbike touring the ability to take that bit more weight & not have it knacker me out! :) :) all the best and happy travels.

[@stuartb3502]

LOL - I'm not sure how much it all is, but the tent, sleeping gear and cooking gear (less the table tops) is 11.3kg. Add to that clothes, tools, electronics, food, washkit. It's probably not dissimilar to your total weight, but you have a cot of course (Helinox do what looks like a nice one now btw). That total includes a tarp for an entrance awning which I didn't take. Apart from the tent it's relatively lightweight but not ultralightweight gear. Sounds like you've honed your gear over a lot more serious trips than me - I'll have to take a look at some of those ideas - thanks.

[@jibjob6536]

no probs mate. you gotta shave weight off here & there! the cot weighs 1.4kg. so yes! bit more than an airbed but I'm off the ground, comfy & definately sleep better - saves space in how it packs up, definately smaller footprint than an airbed.. Only electronics I take now are my phone, doubles as my gps - HERE now Nokia maps. A Bluetooth headset & poormans (old android phone - small screen - but runs memorymap 'like' app, so great when off the bike! loads of 25k/50k mapping) GPS unit. Foodwise I just carry enough dried stuff for a coupla days, that I dip into & replace on the go, then eat fresh as I go also. yeah its always a 'tryna get the best fit' between 'survival' with sod all - proper roughing it, if I wanted to do that tho I would just take my survival water straw & a tarp, nothing else lol then go abit feral. Things I don't want to be when camping are: cold, wet (as much as is possible!). Everything else is a luxury lol. All the best for future trips!

[@stephenkinsley2483]

as far as a tent goes, it depends how long your staying in one place, when i went to the manx in 2013/14 i was there for 2 weeks and i used my favorite vango 350 xl a bit heaver than yours but plenty of room for everything including table and chair so i could eat inside.

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks for the constructive comment Stephen. I'm sure some will find the tip on that tent with checking out.

[@SantaTheInsane]

At first I'm like. "this looks interesting" Then "Snap, over 30 minutes" But it was worth the watch.

[@650GSF]

I have the same water holder, they are a bit of a pain to dry out, I just left mine sitting in the living room for about five days with the tap off it and kept pulling the sides apart and slowly but surely it did totally dry out :-) I want your triumph tiger :-P that's the next bike I intending buying.

[@stuartb3502]

Hey Garry - thanks for the comment. I got a metal coat hanger, pulled the bottom down so that it was a long loop. Then I bent some "up and downs" into it. I could put that into the water carrier to prop it open for drying. Not perfect however as some hangers will rust. If you're in the UK, I just saw that Sports Direct have a proper drying frame (similar to the ones that Camelbak do) for not a bad price. I can't be sure it would fit the water carrier I showed however, but worth a look.

[@650GSF]

+Stuart B hi yes I am in the UK, got a local sports direct, I have only used the water bag once so far, might be going on a trip this weekend, so it might get it's second outing, the drying frame has got to be worth a try if it's quite cheap to buy.

[@stuartb3502]

+Garry G Try googling hydration or water bladder drying kit or cleaning kit. Lots of options come up. Just not sure whether they would fit through the opening on the Gelert container - the Camelbaks etc have bigger openings.

[@650GSF]

Stuart B thanks I will take a look see what options come up.

[@ZSharkPH]

Thanks for the video. I'll be getting a lot of these items for an Alaska trip in July. Nice you were able to fit everything in the side panniers. I hope to do the same :)

[@stuartb3502]

Sounds great - I'll sub your channel and hope you get some video of your trip.

[@ZSharkPH]

I plan on filming a lot and uploading to my channel. Thanks for the sub.. I just subbed you back. Your do for another adventure it seems :)

[@Pionerah]

Great idea for the table top, I have those givi panniers too, may copy your idea

[@oldsmokie101]

Very good video. In your toolkit, add some JB weld. (Liquid metal) sets like rock for any leaks or broken bits. I didn't get on with the inflatable pillow, went with squash down foam one for second trip.

[@stuartb3502]

Thank you! Good tip on the JB Weld. I thought I should go and buy some. Then came across some yesterday in the garage. Looks a bit dried up and I can't even remember what I used it for :-). Can you recall the name of the squash down pillow you bought? Might be useful to others and I hope to do an updated video incorporating all the good ideas in the comments and some new equipment options.

[@oldsmokie101]

Stuart B It was the Hi gear red pillow from go outdoors, not their black one which is too small and thin. Thermarest compressible was the best, but a little bulky. Red was a good compromise of comfort vs bulk weight. The inflatable ones seem great, lightweight, small and get good reviews, but every morning my ear hurt, even when some air was let out. I also swapped your style chair for a higher backed version, (grey vango). Easier on my back after a day riding. I also got a Jetboil in addition to cooker. Totally unnecessary, but great at scenic stops for a quick cuppa. Stays in my car when not camping.

[@stuartb3502]

Old Smokie sounds like some good options there. Thanks for letting everyone know.

[@TheSpannerLab]

Nice one buddy. Thanks for sharing your experience/wisdom/research without trying to become a 'personality'. Please do more videos like this, perhaps actually on the road. Mid-Winter's day today and planning camping like this is getting me through the cold. Though I would never mention cous cous in a motorcycle camping video if i were you. Awesome other than that.

[@stuartb3502]

Lozz Mitchell ha, thanks. At least it wasn't quinoa 😋. I filmed a whole trip around Scotland, but my camera wasn't great and a lot of the footage is useless. I have bought a decent action cam now so will try and get another trip in. I also have some stuff on engine bars filmed (including crash testing unfortunately). Will try to get that up.

[@zakzakharov1030]

Great vid'. Really enjoyed. This was good prep' info' for me as I am about to collect my new BMW bike and hope to set-off through Europe for a few weeks bike camping. Thanks...

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks. Good luck with the trip. Sounds like a lot of fun. I'm in Europe, but sadly without the bike! Hopefully soon.

[@markstirling4855]

Excellent Stuart. Thanks.

[@Choirnrd1]

Great set up! I really like your water bladder. Mine is similar but not as compact. Bravo.

[@stuartb3502]

cool - they're cheap as chips (fries :-0) I might just take the Camelbak next time rather than taking two.

[@zoo2you]

Great video. Hope you start posting videos again. Cheers.

[@stuartb3502]

Much appreciated. Thanks

[@i6g7f]

Congratulations, very cool ideas in your video! Thank you!

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks very much. Glad it was useful.

[@i6g7f]

@@stuartb3502 I like the Vango Halo 200 for moto camping also. Fits well into the sidebags of the bike.

[@stuartb3502]

@@i6g7f Yes, a good fit I think in "adventure" style hard panniers. Fits almost perfectly in the length of my 37L Givis. Other side holds sleeping bag with the cooking pots alongside as a snug fit.

[@MrTone41]

Great review on the kit there, really helpful, thanks loads.

[@Boodieman72]

Great video, I would use a solo stove not a gas stove, maybe with the optional alcohol burner insert.

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks for that. I've added an annotation to the video linking to a video from Mark at Biker Bits where he reviews a bunch of different types of stoves. Worth checking out for anyone trying to choose. I love his bloody videos ;-) kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX6sdX1_opqonJI

[@smithywick]

Absolutely brilliant video mate you covered just about everything really enjoyed this one thank you 👍

[@stuartb3502]

Thank you so much. That's very kind. A bit rough and ready but hopefully a few ideas in there. There are quite a few cheaper alternatives to many of the items covered now so it needn't cost the earth these days

[@carloscarvalho4647]

Very nice video guide. Thanks for sharing.

[@stuartb3502]

Carlos Carvalho Thanks 😊

[@nickferdinande1646]

Thanks for the info. Looking to do a long trip next year and your video has given me allot of ideas.

[@stuartb3502]

Nick Ferdinande Thanks Nick - where are you going?

[@steveclark..]

I wouldn't say that that tent is overkill, I use the Omega 350 even when solo, I just strap it on the pillion seat.

[@stuartb3502]

It's certainly quite compact but at 4+ kgs and space for 3, perhaps we've just invented Motorcycle Glamping :-)

[@steveclark..]

Yes, I've been accused of that but who really wants to crawl into a cramped tent?.....You'd have to be mad. Lol

[@gearjammer3688]

Bigger tent is better than a cramped one, especially with wet gear, panniers etc.

[@markd4853]

that tents not over kill I have a Redverz atacama tent now that's a good tent I like lots of room I can even put my bike in it heaps of room and packs to just the right size for my bike but that sea to Summit pillow I have one and I don’t like it so I got a thermarest compressable pillow heaps better pillow but you're overall review is good .

[@stuartb3502]

thanks for the comment. I've not tried that pillow so some may get on better with it.

[@robKTM1290]

Just a note about the gas valve adapter. I tried one and it turned my stove into a flame thrower....

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks for that tip Rob. I have the adapter as an emergency backup (alongside looking up the nearest McDs) but have not used. I guess you meant that turning it into a flamethrower was a bad thing... But on the other hand :-)

[@manoova]

Why all the cooking gear when you have a motorbike that will usually get you to some hot food withinin about 10-15 minutes (or stop and grab a bite on the way to wherever you plan to stop and camp)? I usually just take a jetboil for tea. You can also fire up some soup/noodles in it if I do end up really far out (which can happen here in Sweden, but not often even in the wildest parts).

[@stuartb3502]

manoova Simple. I like cooking and eating out when camping. It's one of the pleasures. Each to their own?

[@tonyseeley]

Really good video, thanks for spending the time on this and sharing. Very helpful.

[@stuartb3502]

Tony Seeley thanks Tony. Glad it was of some use. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

[@burtweedon4683]

Hi watched your video just a few Observations not a moan, (we all do things differently) TENT I use a Vango Omega because of the ally poles instead of the fiberglass poles, so lighter and packs up quite small i have the 350(3 pers as was 2 up) the vango Brava/o is the same tent with fiberglass poles! best thig you can do is go out buy some decent tent pegs, different sizes & styles I use MSR had them years now sleep bags i use a 2 season DOWN bag as I sleep 'warm', Mrs Down 3 season you should always use a silk liner, & a Exped down 7 mat (internal pump) the Exped you have I think is no longer available. COOKER, I had as simler cooker but much prefer my Multi Fuel Cooker by Coleman always going to have fuel in the tank!! my cooker has lasted me over 15 years so cant be all bad. the gas canisters have different names in other country's for get what. I also have a whisper light (Multi Fuel) with MSR fuel bottle POTS PANS etc, I have a set that all goes into each other with a frying pan non stick pan, water I use my camelbak, as has like you the water carrier, gave up on that. Firelighter, depending on make has a black coating on you have to scrape off first, (some people do not know that) & you need to practice using it & aiming the sparks. COFFEE have you seen the coffee press, silly prices, TABLE Kudos love the Table, like your ally panniers what ones you got? . CHAIR we have 2 of the same now they do a few different designs TYRE PLUGER AA use the same I have the same & the wiggly worms type too. TOOL TUBE www.tooltube.com or any tractor supplier (cheaper from supplier lol, TRAIL TOOL Zen overland or any of the 'adventure' shops (I have one) lol FIRST AID KIT cheapo from Lidl, I have made my own including some meds for mrs & me we now take. DRY FOOD, As a Im a ex Solder I carry some of the dehydrated feed but am aware of the high calories, if you buy other dehydrated stuff like pot noodles put 1 pot in a plastic zipp lock a few guys do that to save space. DRY BAGS you can never have enough!! Ido not use top box I use a Otleb dry roll top bag for tent & most of the gear, the panniers 1 for me 1 for her last 14 days. or LOMO Dry Bag (really for boats but getting loads sold to riders!!! good price good bags. worth a look. I also use some smaller Dry bags by Exped for inside panners etc. Happy Trips mate, if you want some info let me know if I can help will, pm via here

[@stuartb3502]

Hey Burt - some great tips in here for everyone else - thanks. The Halo does come with Ally poles - so all good there. I've just had a d'oh moment on the water carrier as I did in fact take a camelbak as well on that trip! Dufus! I did find tent pegs confusing, but agree that if you need them, then getting some better than the ally pins is worth it. I was going to get at least a small set of the V cross section ones as some of the ground I encountered was pretty hard. The panniers are Givi Trekker Outback 37ltr. Top box is a plastic one Givi TRK52N (they now do a matching ally one). I've been pleased with them overall. Givi are not perfect but I got these for the quick release mechanism. Handy when camping as shown. They've had hours of rain on our current trip and stayed bone dry. Agree also on dry bags. I had a bunch from Sports Direct (Karrimor) as they seemed cheap and appear well made. Just bought more for current trip. I also just bought a big dry bag (similar to Lomo) from Highlander - see video on my channel. That appears good, but no idea how well it will stand up to use/sun etc.

[@burtweedon4683]

Ha i have the givi standard panniers, he i should of chked the poles prior to commenting! , (oops), lol, pegs i use MSR yes expensive but so is the tent, have a buttchers the www.cascadedesigns.com/msr/tents/tent-accessories/all-purpose-stakes/category Will have a look at your bag in a bit, seriously look at silk liner (£5), i was told 2 season bag, exped mattresses liner makes it to almost 4 season, added bonus, if in hot country, or hosile or dodgy b & b use liner in the bed and bed bugs can not get through due to being silk, if cotton, can get through it! Look forward to seeing more vids

[@stuartb3502]

+Burt Weedon Thanks silk liner sounds like a worthwhile addition.

[@burtweedon4683]

Cool

[@Ff6022]

Interesting video. Came at a good time, I'm off to Switzerland in 2 weeks. Funny enough I have similar branded kit. Gone with the redverz tent though, lot bigger but missus will appreciate being able to stand up. I'd like the helinox chair but can't find it for the price you displayed. Also any advice on power hook up? I.e length of cable to get? Heard ppl advise 25m but dont wanna carry that much, did you find generally you was closer or could get closer to a elec. hook up?

[@stuartb3502]

Sorry - I didn't bother with a hookup for my last trip, but may need to in the future if taking cameras etc. In the places I stopped, you could get close to the hookups. Your best bet may be to ask a few of the sites you plan to stay in. Many of the one's I've seen let you choose a pitch with or without a hookup so 25m sounds a lot - but I'm no expert I'm afraid.

[@stuartb3502]

p.s. the Helinox chair seems to be available from Millets/Blacks for £60 at the moment as long as you don't mind a funky colour. That's why mine is green rather than the more popular blue!

[@650GSF]

Had a look at the camelback water pack, that one would be easy to clean with the big opening, shame they didn't do the same on are type :(

[@rocklobstersteve]

Just watched Nerb1's recent gear guide. His solution to keeping your water pack clean and fresh was to wash it out after your trip and bung it in the freezer until needed.

[@TheMortical]

Great job, will be helpful on my first outing

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks Ricky. Hope you have a good trip. Keep it Gilmour!

[@alexfaulds7070]

Very informative,thanks for sharing buddy. 👍

[@davidthomas1532]

Great video Stuart. Thanks for the tips from everyone in the comments too. Any chance of a vid covering how you pack all your stuff onto the bike?

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks David - I'll see if I can sort out something on packing - not sure how soon that will be 'though.

[@1Selous]

i picked up a really nice folding table like thel helionx one but cheaper, mrs loves it for preping food on prior to cooking.

[@stuartb3502]

can you name the table/source for others who may be interested? thx

[@1Selous]

Amazon under, 'Moon lence portable lightweight table' only got it 3 weeks ago, went away last week for 4 days, fitts in my dry roll bag, and when sitting on Heliox chairs the right hight to have a glass of wine next to you, she preped food on it with a folding chopping board np.

[@stuartb3502]

Looks very similar to the Helinox. thanks for sharing.

[@tossedsaladandscrambledegg8576]

Well done video, thanks for taking the time post! Lots of good info.

[@stuartb3502]

Tossed Salad and Scrambled Eggs Cheers ☺️

[@Nxxi.]

Pop the bladder in the freezer when at home then crack all the ice out. I actually just leave it in there 100% when not being used. Works a treat :)

[@stuartb3502]

Certainly an outside the box idea - thanks.

[@ReviloRider]

+Stuart B not so much an "outside the box idea".... By leaving the bladder in the freezer it prevents bacteria from growing when not in use.

[@bolton737]

A great guide, thanks for posting

[@stuartb3502]

bolton737 thanks very much.

[@Jamfilms45]

Great idea the plywood table, just wanted check when your not using them do they if in yours panniers?

[@stuartb3502]

Hi there. Yes they do. I cut them specifically to fit. Mine are Givi Trekker panniers which have gubbins inside behind where the attachment points are outside. I cut the table pieces so they sit without robbing any more space than that. These are only 5mm and you could possibly get away with 3mm quality ply. Great job on the films on your channel by the way.

[@Chad-ski]

Great video. Does the halo 300 footprint cover the halo porches or just the sleeping area part of the tent?

[@stuartb3502]

Hi. The Halo comes with two small footprints as standard just for the porch areas. The full footprint you buy separately does cover the porches as well as the sleeping area. So if you get that you don't need to carry the small porch ones. It works well.

[@tomxrt2650]

Great 👍🏻 vid, good idea using a plywood table

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks very much Tom.

[@TonyKitchen471]

Nice overview and some good tips Thanks

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks very much Tony. Enjoyed your Sawley to Whitewell video. Hope to check out some others. Lovely part of the world.

[@michaelmcveigh8880]

thanks planning a road trip camping UK first then the alps

[@stuartb3502]

sounds great, but if you're going soon you'll want a warmer bag than I show here😀 If you're doing more winter or high level trips it's also worth looking at the insulation values of the various mattresses as they play a big part in keeping you warn from the cold ground too.

[@hurleyflyer8355]

Good choice of tent , compact and not too small . Small tents are ok for kid bikers ( no disrespect to kid bikers ) Just I'm , lets say older and like my comforts , even when I'm camping . I didn't see a lantern in that set up or a 240 volt lead , so you can charge your batteries up etc . Also get a better sleeping bag , down is better and make sure it's a 4 seasons type so you can make it for any season . Tad more expensive but well worth it when the weather reading talking heads get it wrong , which is often . If you're warm , dry and comfortable ( especially the Mrs ) You'll enjoy it very much . Great video . Look forwards to some more , when you've been out and about camping . Atb .

[@macawdor5065]

Good vid. Hope you start filming some of your motorcycle touring too..☺

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks very much. I've been filming our Scottish trip. Not sure how much of it will be any good yet, but will hope to get something up if I can come up with something different to what's already out there.

[@macawdor5065]

+Stuart B I'm new to all this too, I did a film of my Scottish trip back in October. It seems to have gone down pretty well, and I enjoyed making it. I may even go back to Scotland this summer, it was a fantastic tour.. Good luck.

[@stuartb3502]

p.s. I agree with you about that little white road which joins the main road just before Kylesku. It started raining just as we got on it. Tight, twisty and very steep gradients plus single track. Fairly exhausting!

[@mrantone916]

Woah I like that pannier table !! 👍🏼

[@82caferacer]

Really nice Video. I am goin to the Isle of man this year with my Triumph Scrambler. We are camping out doors for 3 weeks. But since the Scrambler has not that much of luggage space i wonder how many liters your luggage is in total. Right now i am about to get 70 l of luggage on the bike. I wonder if this will be enough

[@stuartb3502]

The panniers are 37 litres each and the top box is 52 litres. Top box held clothes, map, etc. My back seat was clear so you should be able to get close by doing something similar and using a waterproof duffel strapped to the back. Just make sure to get some of that antislip matting or similar to protect any bits of the bike the with which the bags come into contact. Any virbration will wear away at your paint otherwise. Bear in mind that I was also on an 1215 cc adventure bike, so if you can cut down weight you'll probably enjoy the ride more. Easy ways compared to what I show - smaller tent, simpler/smaller cookset (or perhaps none for that kind of trip), get a gas converter as shown for the butane "spray can" style gas and buy gas (and food) once you get there.

[@82caferacer]

I do have a little cooker from MSR running on normal gasoline. My cooking stuff is quite small. And my tent is way smaller too. I have a air matress which is quite small when packed away. I try to cut down as much as possible. We will see. I will put the stuff together and see how much i need to add on luggage. I hope to get along with the 70 l. Thanks

[@MultiOutdoorman]

Stuart. you should make some more videos mate !

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks. Will try to do some once things improve. Big Euro trip in the works.

[@iSlanderEST]

Very nice over view!

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks very much. I look forward to watching your channel now - looks like you have some great stuff on there!

[@iSlanderEST]

Stuart B Thanks!

[@Cp3_james]

now that's a name I recognise

[@firstphoton655]

all that cooking gear? Where do you pack the food at?

[@romeoone5389]

That was really informative,me and a mate do a lot of motorbike camping on our V strom 1000 abs and are always looking to shrink things down and lighten the load, small tent for one and two night stops and a a four man sleeper for two weeks at the IOM TT,we really enjoy the open road and we're both OAPs.

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks Andrew - I'm so glad you found it of some use. I rode over to the 'Ring with someone on a Strom. He loves it. I must do the TT next year. Keep riding! :-)

[@willmccartney3144]

I say the 3 man tent would be a better job...did france myself and found the two man v tight when I'd all my kit in ....I can stress enough bing a really good chair lol...I'd a been lost with out mine

[@irgendwieanders1]

I still don't get, why people take pillows camping... stuffbag from sleeping bag, fill with your dayclothes - done

[@stuartb3502]

irgendwieanders1 Maybe a good option for some people, thanks for commenting.

[@rclines001]

Ooh, never thought about that. I'm newer to moto camping. Good idea, thanks.

[@branthopolis]

I would do that if I were backpacking, but I will make space if necessary to have a decent inflatable pillow when the bike is doing the hauling.

[@ianmcbrayne5607]

Its just not the same and I can't really explain why, other than the pillow adapts better to the head shape and should slip less. I have been camping for many years without pillow, but got one 7 years ago. First my co-campers were laughing, now they all have inflatable pillows...

[@thomaselliott573]

I like inflatable things when I am campin'. Anything inflatable.

[@sbudd6403]

Great video thank you for some great tips, am i right in saying you have sw motech panniers in there web page its says they hold 3kg or 6 1/2 pounds is that ok with all your camping gear. in the process in bying some panniers for my suzuki v strom 1050 going for givi trekker 33ltr as they hold 10kg BUT i like the sw motech ones better can you advise me kind regards steve

[@stuartb3502]

Hi. Mine are actually Givi Trekker 37 litres. Must admit I didn't check load against manual. Good point! However, no issues and although a lot of people comment on this being a lot of stuff, it's not really. Check the spreadsheet in description which has all the weights. Cheers.

[@johnnyblaze716]

I keep my camelback in the freezer. Good vid. 👍

[@48796gbf]

Splendid guide

[@MultiOutdoorman]

try storing the water bladder in the freezer instead of drying it and worrying about mold etc ?

[@stuartb3502]

Thanks for the tip!

[@wtom1420]

Thanks for sharing this. I went through the same process of itemizing what is really necessary, what additional item(s) would be useful, etc. I do have one question. Once you've packed the essentials, what did consider bare minimum for clothing, and how did you pack it?

[@stuartb3502]

Again - I'm no expert. I read up a bit and then I took something like this. For the bike, two short sleeved thin base layers, one long sleeved base layer. My main problem when riding is keeping cool/sweat free unless its

[@joost6921]

Nice guide! Which panniers are you using (2x 37l Givi outback trekker?) If so, didn't you regret buying 1 48L ?

[@stuartb3502]

Joost van Cadsand They are the Givi Trekker Outback 37L. No regrets. The 45L would have been wider than my handlebars which I wanted to avoid for when filtering. The 37L give plenty of space for me (I have a 52L topbox). They were also adequate when touring with my wife (not camping).

[@anil5582]

very useful. many thx for sharing

[@mountainbloke40]

Thorough -- some quality top tips thanks

[@stuartb3502]

mountainbloke40 Thanks. Not sure you'd want to lug much of this up a mountain though 😀.

[@kliqueeject5050]

Great video, Do you think you would be able to take all this equipment on a large 125cc scooter? Or would you need a more powerfull motorbike

[@stuartb3502]

Have a look in the description. I list the weights of the major items so you should be able to figure out what's possible. In my case it came to about 14kg plus my food, clothes and small bits. If be surprised if it was over 25kg. Given these trips are without a pillion, that's not a lot of weight on a bike like mine. I'd guess you'd want to go a bit lighter as every little counts on a 125 and it will make your trip more enjoyable of the bike doesn't feel heavy. It's a balancing act. There's plenty you can do without and you can get lighter stuff if needed. You could also opt to eat out on your way as that would save a lot of space and a bit of weight. Let's hope it's not too long before we can all ride again.

[@CosgroveNotts]

I just take my suzuki car now. it's small, it has 3 cylinders, great fuel consumption and just chuck all gear in the boot with the seats down. I do have 2 bikes too but can't be arsed with leathers on and off anymore and sweaty bollocks from the heat coming through the fairing. Nicely presented video and interesting

[@stuartb3502]

cosgrove notts I suppose you call that thinking outside the box; solve the challenges of packing for motorcycle camping by not taking a motorcycle ☺️