Motorcycle Chain O Rings are Not Rubber

[@Grawlix_Garage]

Nitrile gets soft and expands when you spray it with brake clean I'm a Auto Tech and I use them everyday and try doing a brake job without your gloves growing three times every time you spray off some pads.

[@dirtbike662]

I came looking for ur comment

[@Grawlix_Garage]

@@dirtbike662 ikr

[@CensoredForTheTruth]

It’s the chlorinated brake clean. Non-chlorinated won’t do it as bad. We use the non-chlorinated like hand cleaner. B12(chlorinated) will leave chemical burns.

[@dirtbike662]

I have both. Each one is better for certain types of oil or grease. Also, non chlorinated dries super fast. But honestly, if I'm cleaning anything with a can, and it has plastic around, I'm using electronics cleaner. Not the electric motor cleaner or any brake or carb cleaner.

[@gfalcone28]

Ive noticed the same affect on my nitrile gloves when using light oils like wd40, pb blaster, and T-9

[@Jgrs1026]

Nitrile IS a type of rubber, commonly called NBR (nitrile butadiene rubber). It is unique from other rubbers as it is very resistant to oil, fuel, and other chemicals, but it is still a type of rubber.

[@TheWallsocket]

It also still gets damaged by brake cleaner and brake fluid. If a material says it’s not suitable for use in brake systems (like the data sheet for nitrile says in this very video) that’s a good indicator it’s also not suitable to be used with brake cleaner.

[@Jake-li7ih]

That's what I was thinking

[@davidlabossiere1140]

It even says it in his screenshot

[@Sealutions1]

toluene in brake clean attacks it...

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

It's a plastic made from petroleum, real rubber comes from a tree !

[@TheBraulio459]

Once he realizes he actually isn’t right this video will no longer be available

[@rcgamers5536]

He is like the flat earth believer in terms of brake cleaner on o-ring.

[@doms.6701]

If he realizes it 😂

[@charliesmith874]

It's rage bait I think, still up 1yr later

[@EddieTheH]

They're usually Viton, *not* nitrile. Besides, even if they are nitrile, it's even less resistant to brake cleaner than Viton. *DO NOT USE BRAKE CLEANER ON O-RING CHAINS!*

[@rodgerneeb301]

Exactly.

[@dalespringerwilson4233]

If they're Vinton they're close to bullet proof....

[@EddieTheH]

@@dalespringerwilson4233 So it's cool to use bullets to clean the chain then? Viton turns to crap with ketones and there's usually ketones in brake cleaners.

[@xxs1lentk1ller30]

On all ring chains

[@Sealutions1]

as person who has sold orings for 30 years, the brake cleaner attacks the nitrile. it may last for a few minutes or even hours but it breaks it down. Melt.. no, they expand and get spongy.

[@Super-Bike-Joe]

💪💪💪💪

[@atuck6082]

I started using 9mil nitrile gloves over latex since the cleaners demolish latex in seconds. Nitrile holds up a bit better but my nitrile gloves still expand, get soft, and start breaking easier with a brake cleaners. I generally have to swap them out mid job after a cleaning session because they are breaking down. So yes, the o-rings will fail prematurely.

[@benjithebulldog5637]

Rubber/nitrile/Viton is not recommended for brake cleaner. It even says so in that picture, it will over time degrade and eat the bonds and break down over time. EPDM on the other hand has a much better chemical reaistance if you could replace each O'ring would last a real long time.

[@TMEBNDT]

Kerosene is what's used. It may even say this specifically in the manuals.

[@laurapalmerTDGE]

A bath of diesel and when needed let the chain soak. It cleans and lubes. Afterwards with a brush and diesel ... .

[@erikhadinger7655]

Last I looked my Nitrle gloves break down And get holes real easy when I use brake cleaner. Same will happen to the O rings.

[@elitistseeker1258]

Must be using different stuff

[@greuju]

Chinese gloves might not actually be nitrile.

[@dirtyaznstyle4156]

@@greuju they’re made to the customers spec,

[@simonbooth2821]

Alot of break clean brands it is pretty much lacquer thinner in an Arisol can, and that shit eats through nitriles like nothing

[@pakde8002]

All petroleum based products require petroleum based solvents for cleanup, which is just breaking down the chemical bonds of the various petroleum based chemicals. But if this guy wants to change chains more frequently by using the wrong products more power to him.

[@berlnberln5289]

Honestly no O-Ring manufacturer will certify it against any solvent, the sad truth is, all solvent will at some point destroy it. I've tried a bunch of things, brake cleaner is the worst, it gets past the O-Ring and destroy the grease inside the roller (I can destroy a chain under 20k km like that), diesel is better, it remove the grim and it a bit less thin (basic chain can go up to 50k km like that. Another tip, I usually only change my front sprocket

[@adobomoto]

Check this one out. I filled a glove with brake cleaner and left a piece of the chain in a tub of brake cleaner. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hofKqJSAjLOXiMU

[@berlnberln5289]

@@adobomoto thanks yep I've seen it, your brake cleaner might be more rubber compatible than what it usally find. Typically, if I wear a nitrile gloves pair, if one gets brake cleaner on it, you can be sure that the one exposed to break cleaner gonna tear pretty quicker while working than the other one. Same for the chain, at some point I find split O-Ring on the floor and the chain stretch faster du to the diluted grease inside by the break cleaner. Nevertheless it's only my experience, your's could be different. At the end, use whatever you feel like, a chain is not that expensive anyways, now I get mostly non O-Ring chain from did, love it especially on dirt roads. Never get unbranded chain, I almost got stranded in the desert from a $30 Amazon one. Every link were cracker and I had a spare master link fortunately.

[@willjohnson5861]

I have found the same thing. I buy low VOC brake cleaner and nitrile gloves. The gloves eventually break down over repeated exposure to brake cleaner. I think if this guy isn’t having issues, it’s because his brake cleaner is gentler than what I’m using. Just buy a dedicated chain degreaser, no point in ruining your o-ring chain prematurely. I was a motorcycle tech for a few years and now buy and sell older motorcycles, so I have a lot of experience with chains and different chemicals.

[@willjohnson5861]

@Rupesh Kumar I'm not sure, I haven't tested kerosene for cleaning chains. Fortnine did a video on chain cleaners, and I think he tested kerosene in that line-up. Give that video a watch and maybe it will answer your questions.

[@steve8674]

@Rupesh Kumar Kerosene is what most manufacturers recommend for cleaning chains. I have always used Kerosene. Triumph have always recommended kero

[@fauxtool952]

yeah bro keep using brake cleaner. I sell chains by the way

[@kamikrazywarboy2008]

I use it on all my roller chains... I use kerosene on o and x rings. But I'm a biker, not a motorcycle enthusiast like this guy.

[@surrontvkobuild]

​@@kamikrazywarboy2008 thank you 🙏👍

[@AG-jr2il]

He must have had a lot of hate on his last video before this one.

[@jasonkerekesch5012]

He must have more hate now. He was and still is wrong and he proved it and didn't realize it apparently. In the sheet he posted it says it's a type of rubber and it doesn't recommend use with brake cleaners, among other chemicals.

[@-RyN-23]

Gloves are ment to temp block it but with repeated use over time they will dry out an become brittle, that's what happens to chain orings most of the time, more so from friction an heat than chemicals tbh but most people don't think about that

[@nickwillard4471]

I'm no mechanic, but a detailer. I don't use brake cleaner much except for cleaning undercoating off of stuff it shouldn't be on. You're kind of right. Nitrite gloves do resist brake cleaner a lot better than most rubbers but it isn't completely impervious to it. You can test it by just spraying a bunch on some of those gloves you have. First it'll make the glove feel looser, then it'll start to discolor, and then the material will get really thin and flimsy feeling and it'll break very easy. Eventually if it's exposed to enough brake cleaner for enough time it'll start to decay.

[@ActuallyimTom]

the realest bro, now I can show my dad this and win argument (I gonna be homeless)

[@adobomoto]

😂😂

[@TsunauticusIV]

You can come hang out with me. I’m homeless. My dad passed away and now I’m living in a hotel. 😞

[@nurhalim96]

Not true bro, there is actually a youtube channel made a full experiment about this myth, and the o-ring can still damage by chemical and will lost the lube inside it.

[@adobomoto]

@@nurhalim96 Fort9 didn't test brake cleaner.

[@isaiahtinoco4113]

@@TsunauticusIVfeel you bro been in a shelter for 2 months and gotta keep it going, only you can make the life you deserve happen.

[@jamtin3977]

I bought a scottoiler system for my MT 09. Works off manifold vacuum. Automatically lubricates/cleans. No more manual cleaning/lubricating. Highly recommended, got better things to do than chain maintenance.

[@furiousatvmct.v.3685]

Lol I don’t only use it, I also recommend it. the amount of time it would actually take to have adverse effects on O-Rings if any you’d already changed out your chain an sprockets multiple times lol. There’s plenty of myths out there beyond this. 🤟.

[@adobomoto]

Lmfaooo i know. These idiots don’t realize how dense O rings are

[@cristian6766]

Many people here where I'm from use kerosene as chain cleaner, as it's cheaper / liter, and the o rings ar fine and well.

[@furiousatvmct.v.3685]

@@cristian6766 Nothing wrong with that either, Thats been used for years. Moral of the story is Brake-clean does not cause damage to your chain. There’s a lot of false and misleading information throughout the community on this. Clean the FN chain and Ride!! 🤟🤣🤟

[@marushall263]

​@@adobomotohow dense they are doesent change the fact it weakens them. The information you showed even says break cleaner degrades them lmfao.

[@donaldliverance2597]

But it does breakdown the nitrile just like it does to the gloves

[@culverap]

Instead of looking at O-ring data, just read the manual that comes with the chain. For example, from DID's website: Clean the chain by wiping with a soft cloth dampened with an O-Ring/X-Ring® safe cleaner and dry completely every 300miles (500kms) to prevent surface rust and ensures maximum performance. To protect X-Ring®, NEVER use steam, thinner or such volatile solvents as gasoline or benzene (BRAKE CLEANER), and a wire bush as well. Lube the chain every other use with an O-Ring/X-Ring safe lubricant. Just because it seems to work, and you have done it for a long time doesn't mean it is the right thing to do.

[@adobomoto]

Honestly there’s more than one way to clean a chain. It’s not that serious and people are making this process seem like it’s the most crucial thing in the world. It’s not a big deal..clean it, lube it, move on

[@culverap]

@@adobomoto I can understand not making a big deal about it, but it is hard to not disagree with your comments when the manufacturers of motorcycle chains are clearly recommending the exact opposite of what you are promoting. Another example from RK Chains: RK Chain recommends cleaning a sealed chain with only a mineral based O ring safe chain cleaner. Do not use kerosene, mineral spirts, diesel fuel, brake cleaner, motor oil or any caustic chemicals because that can damage the seals. RK recommends that you douse a rag with the mineral based O ring cleaner and wipe the dirt off the chain. Do not use a wire brush or hard bristle brush to clean a sealed chain. The wire or hard bristles can damage the seals reducing the life of the chain. WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND USING A MOTORCYCLE O-RING CHAIN SPECIFIC CLEANER AND LUBE.

[@kcash4u]

Point to be noted. Last ninja I used cheap degreaser and my chain was damaged then for gixxer now i use kerosene. It seems OK. But here i saw "not kerosene " so now what ? 😂🤔 I guess may be just damp kerosene and wipe residue then wax .

[@culverap]

@@kcash4u Actual chain cleaners have come a long way, in fact there some that work so well that you don’t need to use any brushing or elbow grease. Maxima chain cleaner has you spray it on your chain, wait 5-10 min then rinse off with a hose water. That product works better than kerosene with less arm work.

[@danishasyraaf9569]

@@culverap yeah... it's like RK made the O ring for their chain and not source it from other manufacturer right? So they must know better how to protect it right??

[@Slapp3]

I'm cleaning my chain today and was thinking they were rubber. Definitely picking up break cleaner and gettin to it

[@marushall263]

Break cleaner will wear them down dude has no vlue what hes talking about. Even the i.formation he showed shows that hes wrong

[@atuck6082]

I started using 9mil nitrile gloves over latex since the cleaners demolish latex in seconds. Nitrile holds up a bit better but my nitrile gloves still expand, get soft, and start breaking easier with a brake cleaners. I generally have to swap them out mid job after a cleaning session because they are breaking down. So yes, rip nitrile o-rings with brake cleaner. It WILL cause your o-rings to prematurely fail.

[@victorforeman7056]

Wow, you learn something new everyday. I never knew rubber anything is used in something like a motorcycle chain.

[@bradenbart9309]

Funny thing is. Break clean will eat away a nitrile glove…… 😂

[@dubmikey]

I think he's trolling... or just dumb

[@poellot]

Put on nitrile gloves, spray good brake cleaner on them, give them a few minutes. They fall apart. I am a diesel mechanic. Nitrile gloves are great but no way resistant for more than a few minutes. Try some powerful paint prep cleaning solvent. You have about 30 seconds before the gloves fall off.

[@adobomoto]

I filled a glove up like a water balloon with brake cleaner. Watch the video if you’re curious kzbin.info/www/bejne/hofKqJSAjLOXiMU

[@adobomoto]

Not a damn thing happened

[@poellot]

@@adobomoto try napa brand brake cleaner and see.

[@thaipanda5668]

If I were you, I'd have a look at the chemical break-through time for brake cleaner on a nitrile glove. Typically, nitrile/neoprene/latex gloves will only repel chemicals for a certain amount of time 👍

[@robertg9334]

True enough it speeds up the process of breakdown but brake cleaners are designed to be ok with rubber boots on caliper cylinder or the little rubber boots on you rear wheel cylinder but that's real rubber not dipped latex

[@CensoredForTheTruth]

chlorinated brake clean will eat right through those gloves. As a mechanic I’d know. Non-chlorinated brake clean will repeal for longer but will still eventually eat through.

[@lakaiskates8064]

@@robertg9334 No, it's likely nitrile rubber too. 'real' rubber has almost no solvent resistance. I think the key with brake cleaner is that it evaporates before it can do any real damage, similar to gasoline on 2-stage paint.

[@steve.o33]

Hate to break it to you, but orings are a type of synthetic rubber, and silicone. Depends on what rating you have, some orings can take brake cleaner, some cant. All depends on who manufactured them, that looks like an rk chain, so those are actually made out of silicone propylene compound. If that is an rk chain. Cant really tell if it is, so yeah its perfectly fine to use brake cleaner on that chain, if its a neoprene compound, you absolutely do not want to use brake cleaner on it, it wont melt the rings, it will dry rot them. If they are dry rotted, they wont hold the lube in the chain. Its not like its gonna damage your chain, but you'll be lubing it up alot.

[@jacobodonnell3458]

You tell em, as an engineer on a chemical plant I get it! Even 98% hydrochloric won't melt nitrile

[@Krupnekt]

Fyi i use nitrile gloves everyday and brakecleaner or acetone based solvents will in fact swell and weaken that material and they will just fall apart

[@ChanChan094]

I didn’t even know motorcycle chains got O’rings 😂

[@bigwu100]

Not all do. But the higher end chains do. I wouldn't use gas or kerosene either. Maybe just some wd 40 to clean and chain lube.

[@MatthewRichardson-zj3yn]

Brake cleaner evaporates very fast. If you soak the o ring it will deteriorate. Just spraying it does not hurt them.

[@mikedrop4421]

I'm just happy he's got the guts to call a spade a spade, I mean a moron.

[@donaldliverance2597]

Even though he's wrong?

[@Churros1209]

Im a mechanic that uses black gloves every day . I hate getting brake clean on my hands because the gloves get soft and stretch

[@ECMoore-vy9oi]

You are obviously a well educated man. You are very skilled in you use of the English language.

[@kaiser98berlin]

As well as his tonation in profanities swung at you😂

[@thedandude]

Some penetrating fluids can get past the o-rings and reach the internal lubricant, that's why you should be careful with what you clean your chain with. Fortnine has a video on this

[@murderWhornets]

I've always used non-chlorinated brake cleaner specifically on motorcycle chains, it's worked better than chain degreaser every time

[@PercyJackson93]

Why non chlorinated? I never heard about this until now.

[@pittbier7597]

chlorinated and non-chlorinated are there because of environmental regulations. properties are almost the same.

[@murderWhornets]

I was told that non-chlorinated tends to be easier on rubber o-rings, having used non-chlorinated for 3 years now on my chain I can speak to it's longevity, never tried non-chlorinated personally on motorcycle chains though I do use it in general automotive work

[@johnanderson3475]

was a deisel mechanic for a few years. brake cleaner is awesome. ive had great luck with it. still use "oring safe" cleaners on my bike chain tho.

[@energetek661]

Such informative content. Never knew that

[@ericbrodie1818]

One of the components of many brake cleaners is acetone. Acetone is a type of ketone. The text posted specifically advises against using nitrile with ketones.

[@TheOnceAndFutureDoug]

Education and sass? Love it. :'D

[@payton4148]

Key world: resistant to. Doesn't mean it's petroleum proof, gloves will protect temporarily and then you dispose of them, but those o rings on your chain won't be the same. They'll expand and soften from the cleaner and then eventually fail substantially quicker than if you hadn't used something so harsh. Keep brake cleaner away from pretty much anything that isn't metal.

[@fisshuman]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpfGdoOppJmMpbs if you find anyone commenting "hey brake cleaner/ wd-40 will damage rubber or o ring" send this link to him

[@fisshuman]

Thx for the pin

[@donaldliverance2597]

Sorry kid iv used every type of o-ring on the market and thousands of them they all give up to solvents some faster than others but they will all fail from solvent based cleaners you know they make chain brushes right 5 minutes over 5 seconds will have your chain last twice as long

[@ExileXCross]

Sorry to break it to you but Wd40 and brake cleaner aren't the same thing/chemicals

[@deadprivacy]

They both will. You retread

[@deadprivacy]

It will swell the the butyl rubber. Not melt em.

[@lifeatredline1783]

I think you continue to miss the issue. Brake cleaner evaporates the chain grease it’s assembled with. Leaving o-rings that aren’t holding any grease in place, in other words dried out. Re-lubing your chain will never replace the high viscosity grease encapsulated by the o-ring during assembly by the manufacturer. What results is o-rings that aren’t lubed properly, get hot and deteriorate after heat cycles. Don’t believe me? Spray brake cleaner on oil or grease next time, it’s magical at cleaning that stuff up. It does the same to your chain grease. It zaps it right out of there.

[@DaDaDo661]

No, by that logic any degreaser will do what you say it does.

[@lifeatredline1783]

@@DaDaDo661Sorry but try them side my side. Chain cleaner is not a degreaser it’s a cleaner, by definition not as aggressive as a degreaser.

[@x-man5056]

Brake cleaner WILL oxidize nitrile and neoprene. You don't have the same "service duty" with gloves on your hands as the O-rings in your chain. It will take the elasticity out of the O-rings that are likely neoprene, not nitrile. Take the chain off and put it in a pan of kerosene or diesel over night, then hang it up and pressure wash it. Then lubricate and re-install.

[@JC-er7je]

That's why I have been using Kerosene for ages, it is manufacturer recommended and I have never known it to dissolve or breakdown my rubber gloves. Kerosene is cheaper than brake cleaner...

[@adobomoto]

According to fort9, kerosene is no good. Even though everyone has used it for years

[@JC-er7je]

@@adobomoto exactly! even though our fuel hoses and fuel pump o-rings are made of the same neoprene material.... exposed to gasoline and lasts for years no issue! Probably the same ppl that believe in that stuff have never lifted or taken off their gas tank to see what is underneath!

[@carmudgeon7478]

The o-rings are rubber in many 40 and 50 series chains and brake cleaner is formulated to NOT damage rubber. Lots of natural rubber still in brake cylinder boots and such.

[@aleksandarl6975]

Gloves=nitrile, latex. Oring=pretty much any rubber there is depending on intented aplication, including nitrile, or how oring manufacturers label it buna, but most commonly made from neoprene. Not all are oil proof, and not all that are oil proof are solvent proof, so to clean orings intended to be used in oil/greese don't use solvents like brake cleaner but light oils like kerosene, or degreesing products specialy made for it. If you greese non oil proof oring you won't have problem right away, even may show improvement instantly, but will turn to gunk and desintegrate sometime later, and ones in contact with solvents that are not solvent proof will get stiff and sometimes even expand, like some silicones will in gasoline.

[@scottsluggosrule4670]

Yes check the nitrile chemical resistance chart.. they are only for short term exposure to chemicals. They will degrade upon repeated exposures.

[@austinkreller4336]

As a mechanic I’ve learnt brake clean dosent do much to rubber that oil won’t fix, it’s not like the brake clean stays in place, it evaporates once sprayed, a good wash down with oil and you’d be fine

[@dh0123]

I didn't even know there was O rings inside of a motorcycle chain. You learn something new everyday

[@Dale-r3c5y]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but almost nothing is made of rubber. Tires are made from oil.

[@bikeserv]

Mechanic here.prolonged exposure destroys everything.brake cleaner does,but the worst are carb cleaners and fuel

[@rafaelsoares7121]

Most brake cleaners have ketone, that will destroy the o-rings over time. Also, the solvent is very thin and will pass through the sealants and wash the grease inside.

[@JosephCowen-fz8vj]

Acetone

[@chris77777777ify]

Brake cleaner is safe on rubber components anyway It’s designed to be used on brakes where rubber is found, such as o rings & boot covers & sliding pins

[@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259]

There are many different types of elastomers. Epdm for instance, is compatible with ethylene glycol but not compatible with paraffin based oils and greases. Always consult compatibility charts.

[@DynamicSeq]

Nitrile butadiene rubber will get damaged by brake cleaner...But it does stand up pretty well to gasoline...

[@daves984]

Best way to clean an o-ring chain. A brush and simple green or dawn and hot water. The o rings are designed to keep out dirt and water out.

[@isthattrue1083]

Yes, it will over time. Brake part cleaner breaks down carbon based stuff. Rubber is organic and carbon based however it is a composite material that also contains latex. BIC-600 disc brake cleaner will not harm it and is safe to use. It also depends if your chain has o-rings or not. Some don't.

[@klo1679]

Brake cleaner will eat away at rubber. But orings are a composite material, they aren’t 100% rubber, they are made to resist some of the harshest conditions and chemicals. A bit of brake cleaner can’t hurt them

[@m73m95]

Brake clean won't harm the o-rings, but you shouldn't be using it anyway. When you clean your chain, you don't want to strip the lubrication that's already on the chain. You just want to get rid of the dirt, so you can apply more lube without mixing it with grit... You should use diesel/kerosene/or similar solvent that won't completely strip what's already there

[@GIJOE573]

My concern is the brake clean breaking down the grease if it seeps past the o rings, that's why I never clean my chain!

[@marlin3043]

If there's one thing I've learned about internet influencers and how they build a following.. they always call their fans "morons". A clear sign this guy must know what he's talking about

[@knoxbom3274]

It may be the same chemical but the orings are made different and I believe they use a denser compound for the orings cus they need to withstand harsh weather and maintenance

[@adobomoto]

And chemicals, like brake cleaner

[@knoxbom3274]

@@adobomoto exactly... and don't forget when the bike starts to leak oil it has to withstand the oil leak until a responsible person gets it repaired ASAP

[@zalu2151]

Im a parts professional what i do for a living and i can say for a fact it all depends on the material of the O-Ring some o-rings can handle brake clean fine its all based on what that o-ring is made to withstand and nitrile degrades from most automotive fluids

[@darrelld.paveyjr.1477]

Luv this, you calling out the "WHAT A MAROON[looney toon ref.]KAREN'S AND KEVIN'S" are 100% wrr..wrrong! That is so funny to me. l hear my parents preaching "Do not have any thing smart to say, stay quiet!" Good Job!!!

[@Nobody-vr5nl]

To end the chain argument, yes theres both open and sealed chains on motorcycles. Older/cuiser bikes may not have the o ring.

[@tylerfortner4838]

Yes an actual chain cleaner solvent (aerosol). If you can’t afford that use scalding hot water and Dawn dish soap. Both will remove oil, grease, Dirt and other contaminants without the chance to ruins anything especially o rings… rinse it off, let it dry then spray some lubricant. I prefer chain wax to chain lube because the wax won’t fling everywhere on your rims, brakes, under fender etc.

[@bryanpeeters2552]

I do think that the brake cleaner will cause the o ring to dry out faster in the long run causing tearing and cracking, which is what you don't really want. Those gloves you throw away after you're done maintaining and you'll grab a new pair.

[@CannonFodder873]

O-Rings can be made of: PTFE, Nitrile (Buna), Neoprene, EPDM Rubber and Fluorocarbon (Viton). Depends on the application. They ALL fail when improperly used.

[@milosozegovic6980]

I had it said to me that brake cleaner will destroy my chain, after using motul chain cleaner I noticed its basically brake cleaner. After that, i took a couple of O-rings, stick them in a tube and filled it with brake cleaner from Wurth. O-rings remained the same after 2 days, so I thought cleaning for a couple of minutes wont do any harm. Cleaned the chain for a couple of years with the same brake clean and the chain was as new still.

[@kennethrand1032]

The green o-rings are for refrigerant also E85 fuel line and injectors. I repeat E85 needs specific o-rings

[@lrowlands53]

Why do you think you need to clean a chain with brake cleaner? The O-rings are there to keep dirt out and lubricant in. At most, you should just wipe the chain down with a rag and spray some lube on the outside to minimise wear between the chain rollers and the sprockets. Chains actually wear via the pins which join each link. Do not, repeat, do not use a powerful solvent on an O-ring chain no matter some other self proclaimed genius says. A motorcycle chain has a big job to do - including not failing when you are doing 200kph and it's nothing like a bicycle chain. That is, a chain that typically gets soaked in a solvent to clean it and then dried and re-relubed.

[@longdong3889]

Sounds great! Please tell people to use ethanol fuel and run stabilizer for storage, us mechanics can always use some extra work 😁👍

[@BBRRAAAAAAPP]

I run a DID X ring on my dirtbike. After washing the bike I immediately wipe the chain down with a rag, spray with wd40 to help repel the water, wipe again, ride the bike up and down the street to fling any lingering water out and then apply a heavy coat to the underside of the chain with maxima, motul or belray silicone chain lube.

[@ilyaaksamentov1546]

Just because you don’t see an effect right away doesn’t mean it’s not damaging the O-ring. I’ve been a mechanic for over 10 years and it does and it will eat the O-ring.

[@adobomoto]

Im pretty honest and straightforward. I’ll keep an eye on it and if something crazy happens I have no problem posting it

[@Tender-Loin]

I didn’t know that, but now I do, thanks for the lesson. I use kero & gear oil on my sportbike chain

[@rogergroover4971]

Seriously, I think you were my Army drill SGT! Great video!

[@speedracer650]

No ,it doesn't "melt " the o-rings however the o-rings are under compression, after application of "certain" brake cleaners they will expand slightly and some times, they will split and come off. The o-rings are chemical resistant NOT chemical proof. Now what will melt the o-rings is the friction that builds up heat THEN the nitrile o-rings will melt because the brake cleaners wash away the lubricant that is supposed to lubricate the o-rings so they don't heat up so much. The function of the o-rings is to retain lubricant for the pin and inner roller, the chain lube is to lube the outside roller to the sprocket to the surface of the inside roller to the outside roller. The chain lube uses the same base chemicals of brake cleaner but not all the other chemicals and NOT in the same quantity and are used to dilute the lubricant to an overly thin state , so the wearing surfaces of the outside roller and "guess what" lubricate the o-rings. It is best to lubricate when the chain is hot, this is needed so the components and clearances are larger than when cold and the heat speeds up the diluting chemicals faster , the o-rings are not negatively affected and the lubricant jells up as, a grease. Calling someone a moron or cursing them is a sign of a weak position or argument. A little information is as bad as wrong information if the information lacks context.

[@momurderah]

isn't brake cleaner essentially pressurized acetone? From what I remember, we used acetone to clean organic compounds off of glass in o-chem class. Just from my experience, nitrile gloves fall apart way more easily anytime i use brake cleaner as opposed to when I don't.

[@timothykappel198]

It might be resistant but it still damages them they just won't completely melt right away.

[@painhour]

Won't melt but could cause swelling...maybe..if the right circumstance happens...maybe

[@stunt-]

No, products that are made from petroleum will break down over time when ethanol based products are applied to them. You don’t notice this when you’re using those mechanics gloves because you’re using a new pair each time. Next time use just keep using the same pair and let me know how long it takes before they start easily deteriorating.

[@adobomoto]

Filled one up like a water balloon. Didn’t do a damn thing, left it for a couple hrs. Should i linke that video?

[@alekthefisherman5676]

I used diesel in a spray can. It works great. Cheap too.

[@Yes-bg5nr]

i recommend pb blaster over wd40 or anything because it cleans, penetrates rust, and leaves a good lubricant thatll outlast anything else

[@MicroplaysMC]

It won't melt it but, brake clean is simply so stupidly caustic and will degrade it quicker with continuous exposure. There's a reason they make plastic safe cleaner.

[@timothykappel198]

It's called brake cleaner for a reason. U don't want to get it on anything but your brakes. It will dissolve paint and undercoat and dry out plastics and rubber.

[@allanromeo75]

Normally you use petroleum to clean your chain. Not scanty drying brakecleaner… After cleaning lubricant.

[@backyardbuilttrucks1]

Brake clean chlorinated or not will harm nitrile rubber . Carb cleaner will too.

[@violetspider_]

They are def made out of o variety of rubber and silicate. Just because you have a gloves that doesn't allow liquids to penetrate, it doesn't mean the O rings are designed to repeal cleaners they are designed to seal from liquids and dirt. The gloves are worn for a short period. Dip them in dw40 for 2 days and then see. Dw40 is acidic not like oil. But I'm glad you're the smartest person in the world.

[@swanny6945]

There is a test with loads of different cleaners including petrol/diesel and etc and it actually doesn't melt the rings but they expand.

[@kootybear]

As a diesel tech for over20 years, I can say 100 that brake clean will cause rubber gloves to expand

[@leeengelsman1855]

Orings are made from neoprene avoid harder chemicals use what the chain manufactures say on the box that I usually 80/90w gear oil when this excess oil flings off it takes the dirt with it and makes the chain easier to clean.

[@John-xb9dn]

They resist really good but they are not immune to breaking down from break or carburetor cleaner.

[@itsCN]

If you spray brake cleaner on those gloves leave it for 5 mins and you’ll see that you are wrong

[@danielpaulson786]

I knew they were nitrle.well more specifically neoprene is what they are I believe.yeah same thing they use for sewer pipe gaskets it's super tough and super durable plus highly chemically resistant .great stuff.

[@jakesteger89]

Have you ever sprayed that very brake clean on those very gloves? I have and it distorts and expands those gloves. It's so so not the same as the o rings. And not all of rings are made of the same material. Fyi. Those generic harbor freight o rings may be nitrile but nitrile rubber doesn't stand up good against heat.

[@adobomoto]

I filled a glove up like a water balloon with brake cleaner. Left it for an hour. Did nothing. Watch the video if you’re curious kzbin.info/www/bejne/hofKqJSAjLOXiMU

[@freerideshuttle]

You could use some more expensive materials that can handle higher temperature acidic agents and so on. One of this is Viton

[@paul8161]

I'm no moron dude and on that you know more then me..every days a school day..u never stop learning..I'm not arrogant and ignorant to think I know it all. Cool vid..thanks bro.😎🙌🙌

[@royhedlund6920]

The difference is that the gloves are not designed for long term use like orings are the damage that occurs to orings happens over time like months not hours or minutes the damage to orings occurs with prolonged use of petroleum-based products like Vaseline gasoline and other types of fuel

[@AzizBike]

Actually those aren't nitrile O-rings. I'm quite sure those are Buna-N. Nitrile are usually green. Poly or Disogrin seals are clear. Non chlorinated brake clean won't damage any of these though.

[@twistedbliss8735]

I’m not a mechanic, and a lot of people will probably give me shit for this this but I’ve always 1. Sprayed my chain with water 2. Sprayed it with a can of silicone lubricant from Walmart until it the drip off runs clear (usually half a can) 3. And than I’ll take a proper chain lube and spray it while squeezing it with a piece of rubber or cloth that won’t shed kinda like packing a bearing. It’s not proper, it’s not pretty, but I’ve had chains last me 30-40 thousand miles before. I think it’s more about the quality and just making sure there’s always some sort of lubrication throughout all those tiny linkages. Just my two cents but for me it works

[@grahamhull8274]

Anyone here old enough to remember Duckhams chainguard? Throw the chain in the tin of wax and heat it up on the stove, was the best ever.

[@MancWithAMouth]

Some of the O rings are silicone and can vibrate to help with lubricant dispersal.