Motorcycle Live 2019, NEC Birmingham. The Norton stand! 2020 NORTON ATLAS!

[@colindeans5972]

Those Norton's are very cool looking machines. I want.....

[@briandauphinais7894]

It's fantastic to see machines you wouldn't normally ever see, at least in New England. Thanks for sharing some of your experiences at the Birmingham show.

[@shazbotic]

Keep up Brian. 😉

[@trippmiller6199]

Good Ole Snortin Norton!! My Uncle had a commando which had such an awesome and distinctive sound. The new ones look great!

[@richardcollins586]

You don’t see many out on the road, though when you do, they sound amazing. Saw one in the summer and it was in British racing green, looked fantastic.

[@MFCHRIS75]

"built with a passion, to fulfill a passion" - great quote, great vlog.

[@stancoleshill8925]

Bought a used one of these in 1973 for $400. I still have it. Been restoring it for the last few years and it was recently appraised at $5500. (2017) Still working on it a little at a time. Great bike.

[@daveg4495]

I traded my Suzuki GSX1250FA in on a Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 & the first reaction with my riding friends was gut wrenching laughter. The reaction all but silenced as soon as they rode it. Laughter turned to smiles & I had to pry the bike from their hands! I have noticed that there seems to be a trend towards simple under stressed design as of late, I've been waiting for this sensible trend since I sold my Honda CB500 in 1980 & went down the expensive & ego pleasing path of more horsepower & less brains until I started watching your videos. Thanks. The only thing I hate about the Enfield is everywhere I go it draws a crowd & then I have to stand & talk instead of ride.

[@jbird330]

Am I right in thinking, that they need a service every 3000 miles, that can’t be right, can it.....

[@daveg4495]

@@jbird330 Just for basic inspection checks & minor adjustment, most can be done in your garage if you can hold on to the correct end of a wrench.

[@jbird330]

Dave G whilst I agree this can be done with basic mechanical knowledge but would it invalidate your warranty as you have not used a official royal Enfield dealer. Whilst I salute them for bringing such great bikes (I myself own a carbed 500 bullit) to market at such a great price, but it does feel they are clawing it back thru service intervals?

[@daveg4495]

@@jbird330 I will research if changing my own oil & lubricating per manual voids the warranty. I'm a bit anal about changing my oil & filter more frequently & keeping the chain adjusted, cleaned & lubed. I live in Ontario Canada So I don't winter ride like the lads in the UK. I will leave the valve adjustment & such for the trained technicians at the dealer for now but once the warranty is up I'll do it myself. I've been working, re-building bikes for about 50 years now, my father wouldn't allow my brothers & I to own vehicles unless we did our own work on them, old school cheap Celtic father.

[@daveg4495]

I've found the service manual on line & downloaded the PDF, forgot where though! Sorry.

[@stevenharris4432]

Enfield scrambler was for me the star of the show

[@garethwiltshire6376]

Thank you. Absolutely perfect ,all I wanted and a bit more. Excellent job ,hard worker.much appreciated. Regards,Gareth Wiltshire.

[@BIG-K]

Thanks for this excellent coverage. Your commentary made a refreshing change from the wheelie-obsessed witterings of many others and for that I'm truly grateful. Cheers! 👍

[@RobVespa]

The CCM (?) with the blue tank has won my heart... The green RE was lovely (that exhaust). Granted, all of the bikes are charming.

[@pistolpete6321]

Those Norton motorcycles are simply gorgeous!

[@chrisbryan3624]

Cheers for your NEC vids Stuart, great camera work and insightful comments as ever. Visited on Thursday morning but bailed out mid afternoon as the show became packed out. Pleasing to see such a lot of interest in the RE, Norton and Triumph stands. The Atlas really appealed to me too, although lots of pennies there’s nothing wrong with having aspirational desires... We look forward to your future Norton reviews, l’m sure Stuart Garner would too, l’ll put a word in for you when l next bump into him!

[@chrisbolton2500]

Missed you, Stuart, we were there on Wednesday. Completely agree, the Nortons oozed quality, from 100 yards. Great set of videos of what I thought was an excellent show.........least ways I enjoyed it. Looking forward to next year!

[@rayw2291]

Take a test ride before placing an order, I put a deposit down a year ago, took a test ride on the Nomad last month and did not like it, now I am struggling to get my deposit back after numerous phone calls and emails. I will definitely not be dealing with Norton again.

[@Banditmanuk]

Lots of folks like you Ray. We have a deposit down on an Atlas but no one is getting a bike. I'm concerned about Norton

[@travelinben1966]

I’ve always dreamed of owning one.If they bring them within my grasp,I will.

[@dseagull3567]

Another great video Stuart. That Commando is looking very tempting, but I already let you talk me into a T120 a couple years back. Wishing you and Norton the best of luck this holiday season.

[@thebingleywheeler]

Excellent coverage Stuart....I love the look of that Norton Atlas Ranger with the panniers on. When I was on my Police advanced motorcycle course in 1986 the instructor had the Interpol II with the Wankel Rotary Engine....we had the BMW R80RT and couldn't get anywhere near him!

[@MatthewOliphant]

Thanks for taking up Roving Reporter duties for those of us who won't (likely) ever be able to make it to there.

[@docgreen4934]

Hi Stuart, I went to the NEC on the last day and had a highly enjoyable five hours there. Norton was a great disappointment for me. Although the bikes look terrific, on throwing a leg over, the positioning of the gear and rear break was almost impossible for me with too short a clearance to the pegs. I just wouldn’t be able to ride them, so I found it all shine with no practicality. Of course, the Atlas was locked away so couldn’t sit on that one! Great vids on the show Stuart; you’re dedicated to your craft and you have many thanks! Yours aye, Alan

[@johnrimmer5812]

Quality content Stuart, cheers

[@hughsnyder891]

When I think of Norton I always think of the Norton girl in the ads in the 60’s .

[@markmath2883]

Bought and restored a ‘74 Commando in 1984. Put 30,000 miles on it over 15 years, but tired of the maintenance and cost. Have four bikes: 97 Honda Valkyrie, 2014 Triumph Bonneville T100, ‘09 BMW R1200RT and ‘94 BMW R1100RS. The Triumph is my favorite bike due to handling and looks. Not to be a critic of your review, but I would like to know more about the ordering issues, maintainability, rideability and cost. Norton has a checkered past.

[@london_biker6177]

The Norton Atlas aka the At Last, an affordable Norton! Great looking bike, will be great to see them on the road, in big numbers!

[@docraineyIII]

Just beautiful Mr. Fillingham.

[@ashishpatel350]

Norton seems like a comeback brand.

[@stuartfillingham]

well like most British names, it went away, so of course its a come back brand, just like Triumph!

[@ashishpatel350]

@@stuartfillingham yup. It would be cool if they become more of a custom high-end brand than just another mass produced one.

[@raymondo162]

@Ashish: Nah, mate. Nah. too much of that custom, high-end stuff. tiger with a few accs pushes £20k. 20 fin K !! they need a bike for the people. vw started out with a car for the people. and the best selling motorcycle ever - the totally un-cool, unglamorous step-thru 50cc clunker. actually, the clunker is not only the best-selling two-wheeler of all time, it is the biggest-selling VEHICLE ever, I believe. Nuff said? high-end customs are a dead-end street………………….

[@stuartfillingham]

@@raymondo162 Actually I think Hilter founded VW as a huge scam to draw funds from the public to fund his war machine, collected Billions in savings bonds and never delivered one car! so probably not the best example!

[@minatormyth]

Really really love the Nortons. I rebuilt an Atlas 25 years ago in fact. Would never buy a brand new one under the Garner ownership. I am put of by the storys of paying deposits and even asked for full payments just to either not getting the bikes or delays that last for years. However I would and will get a used one that's actually in front of me for sale.

[@Banditmanuk]

We love the look of the Atlas, so much so my wife ordered the Nomad at last years NEC show. Still no signs of them actually making her bike yet but we are holding our nerve and playing a waiting game in the hope of having something unusual, distinctive and British (although I believe the engine will be built in China). Norton now have a new investor on board so hoping this will help ramp up production and lessen what for many are the unacceptably long wait times from order to delivery.

[@Banditmanuk]

@Mike Clarkson well......£500.00 Its allot to us. Was on our credit card to hopefully the card company will refund us but we will see. Sad times.

[@Banditmanuk]

@Mike Clarkson Thanks Mike, perhaps if MCN themselves hadn't been so close to Stuart Garner giving him nothing but positive publicity, perhaps a few more folks would still have their money.

[@briantoftegaard191]

Growing up with my fathers Dominator from ‘54 Norton stands for me as the best of the best

[@rickasker]

Another great video Stuart, very entertaining and informative. Thank you.

[@KRAM-zb2vc]

Great video as always Stuart and that Norton Atlas ranger needs to be in my garage 😃👍🏻

[@stuartfillingham]

I saw it first!

[@KRAM-zb2vc]

Aaaawwww bugger 😂👍🏻

[@leedavis7508]

They should name a model 'The Scammer' after their CEO.

[@charliegutierrez8728]

Beautiful bikes bro 👍 cheers from So-cal

[@MrZeewe70]

Yeah, I would love to have an Atlas and Commando, well worth the expense to some.

[@SteveInskip]

Me too mate but they’ve got to build the ‘Atlas’ factory first....another year and a half till they start selling them I’d have thought.

[@wandering_armadillo]

Oh my god, the Norton Atlas ARE perfect bikes for the average woman - (of course it is your video and you can amuse yourself with the word "man" as well.) Stunning!

[@mark3863]

Good video and excellent commentary, thanks. 👍🏻

[@sahilsagwekar]

I'm hoping to see a good scrambler from norton or RE when I have enough p to buy one

[@ravindrabhole7967]

Norton is now an Indian owned company. TVS of India has bought it.

[@mick998r]

Great in depth views and footage. 👍

[@staninjapan07]

Thanks man that's a nice bit of history and line up combo. Think I'd have the one at 6:30.

[@MrZeewe70]

So I guess my earlier comment could be followed up with a larger discussion on Norton and “Premium” motorcycles in general. Do you buy the handcrafted Norton for the name only, because we don’t know how they really function? The other possibility is the CCM, well built, trusted and we do know how well they are a quality machine. I also think if both company’s established a small factory in North America they would and could survive even the harshest economical down turns.

[@richardpearson4248]

Great video fantastic bikes my favourite bike to own would be a manx norton 500 but out my price range lol

[@scottw550]

ATLAS, a new Norton.

[@johntripp5159]

In 1968 I had a T120R Triumph (Triple gang primary for 46 HP) The Dominators and Atlases I tinkered with had single gang primaries for larger engines (I forget no class norton's HP) that said I'd trade my best guitar for one of the new snortin' nortons.

[@xyz5498]

Best bike with high price

[@bobmarkwell7639]

another great video stuart !

[@alansimpson2647]

Never see a Norton on the road, and not often Triumphs but now and again.!

[@karlosh9286]

The £15K for a Commando is a lot of money. A bit out of my range. It's a lovelly bike and I would like one. Norton could really do with a few more dealerships, but I guess that only comes with making a lot more bikes. Last time I looked there are about 5 dealerships in the UK, you have to go a long way to get to one.

[@maximusm1716]

Great review! Keep them coming! :)

[@paultanton4307]

Still gutted as I had arranged to go to the NEC on the 24th but thanks to SouthEastern Trains incompetence I couldn't get to my pick up point - it looks like a very good show was missed.As to Norton I hope they are successful but at the moment I would not have the confidence to commit funds to their range.Ive been lucky enough to see a Honda RC213V-S on the road - the Norton V4 RR looks every bit as good for a fraction of the price but there needs to be more owners views and reviews from the press etc to gain more of idea as to how good they fare in ownership.Thanks anyway Stuart for your videos.

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

The old cafe racers 👍🏻 and best. Nortumph Tritons

[@petergambier]

What great machines with a beautiful line and engineering. Never owned or rode a Norton, I had a Triumph 750, but I did meet the famous Dr Norton and worked on his house. He showed me around his garage/museum at one end where he also had one of Barry Sheens racing bikes, many early Norton bikes and..........an Aston Martin DB6 in a big, zip-up plastic bag. Lastly, what was the name of the music you played at the end please.

[@sparkatron9334]

Great video. I like that you've made several shorter videos. I visited on the Monday. Another enjoyable show to enlighten us to the bikes available and how they look and feel to touch. Magazine pictures never do justice. The highlighst for me were CCM and Triumph. The quality of the CCM stand and the friendliness of staff really stuck with me as well as the bikes. I felt there was a lot of interest in the mid capacity bikes particularly the adventure bikes. Maybe people are realising they don't need the massive behemoths to ride on tarmac (as happened in the car world). The "emporer's new clothes" BMW stand had far less bikes than last year and I heard a staff member telling a guy that the Germans decided this year that showing fewer bikes there would be more space for people to get around(what they doing next year - LCD screens). I was disappointed not to be able to get up close to the new 650 Nortons and overheard similar comments from others.

[@paultanton4307]

CCM have had their share of delivery problems too,but to be fair they are getting to customers now - I saw a few out and about in the summer and they do look as good as they do on the stands.

[@LondonStreetcoffee]

Let’s get on the bevvies

[@fasthracing]

Great review once again. I am however less than comfortable with your use of the word "sexy" please stop it. Lol

[@kimhorton6109]

Doesn’t that upside down fork expose the seals to road junk and bugs? Most right sided forks have shields for the seals so the junk doesn’t stick to the fork tubes

[@Clampett01]

Comprehensive as ever Stuart. I attended the show over the first weekend and generally I liked the Norton's on show. They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but sadly the Atlas and the other iteration of the 650 twin did not do it for me. They seem cluttered with CNC brackets and bent bits of alloy sheet that have plenty of form, but not much function. This combined with a chassis that looks like it should be housing something from Briggs and Stratton means that these bikes will not be on my wish list for 2020. Enjoying your videos, keep up the good work.

[@Chris-kh2fm]

I agree, it's too messy, which is a shame

[@stuartfillingham7011]

I can see your point from a purist point of view. But as I said I really like it!

[@raymondo162]

TOTALLY agree, colin. on behalf of my late uncle, a Norton man, I've been rooting for the new nortons. but i think they look a proper dog's breakfast - the lot of 'em. norton seem to have focussed on 'heritage' details like the three horizontal lines on some of their oil-tanks, but badly missed the point when it came to the overall look.

[@stuartfillingham7011]

@@raymondo162 do you ever make positive comments Raymond?

[@Studio21Creations]

Fantastic review, loved the Norton Atlas. I remember visiting NEC Birmingham autoexpo in 2006 when I was in the UK for my studies. In your earlier review of the Bonnie T100 A3, you mentioned that those bikes can easily available now in market at a decent price, I agree your statement which is appropriate for market in UK but it's tough to find such used yet good conditioned bike in India these days, But Guess what, I found one and bought it immediately.. loved it's air cooled parallel twins, I am now looking for used British custom toga mufflers.. please help if you have any deal. My cousin who is in the UK can buy them and send me.. :) Regards Sukrut

[@hemantv.5409]

Very nice, please make some more vedio on Norton

[@bassmana2z686]

Nice video. Thanks. I owned a 750 Commando Interstate. Sadly, they really were awful.

[@jackdale9831]

Do the Nortons still have Vernier-Isolastics for ultimate verticle-twin Sm-o-o-othness, or is the 270-degree crank now considered the "cure" to vibes on the Road?

[@tinks43]

The Atlas Ranger does look awesome & CCM also know our some beauty’s 👍🏻

[@robertosimao5092]

will be sold in Brazil ?

[@raceofrobots9152]

What bike is that at 9:30 .. the one the kid gets on? dig the outtro!

[@stuartfillingham]

A Fantic I believe!

[@lieugebo805]

You can buy a really nice 850 Commando for 10,000 a really nice one

[@dirkroadking3587]

If I had the money I would definitely need a bigger garage

[@rumien1383]

Was that Bert, from The Big Bang Theory, that strolled past at the beginning?

[@danilocapellan1316]

Norton 😮👍🏼

[@hughgrection4205]

Surely it cannot be long until the BSA name is reinvented

[@LondonStreetcoffee]

Where can I put my deposit down

[@shazbotic]

😀

[@brucegeange8991]

Yes the Atlas is a good looking bike, Shame the engine is mounted so high. and for my money i"d rather have an original Commando than one of the current clunkers.

[@seeker1432]

Exclusive is the word. Nice and i would have one , But they seem to me too expensive for what you get. Buy one your paying for the name. I just cant see them straying to far from the Norton desighn, Or there just not a Norton. Triumph on the other hand have so many differant desighns and i like them all. Just not sure my old ass could take being down on the tank for long on some.

[@stuartfillingham]

No Triumph dont have many designs, they just dress up the Bonneville as many parts bin specials.

[@motorvelo]

The Norton stand was sad. Few bikes, few people. The Sam two Atlas bikes as last year and still shut away behind a VIP rope. Who were they trying to impress with that? My thoughts at the time were this is a company short on time and money. News a few days later seemed to confirm this.

[@sicks6six]

norton hehehe

[@alansimpson2647]

Royal Enfield and now BSA making a come back!

[@stuartfillingham]

To be fair Alan Royal Enfield never actually went away!

[@bigred8438]

CCM, mouth watery machine for the connesiour with a very thick wallet. Bikes for dreamers and the rich.

[@andrewhills6535]

Tidy 👍🏻

[@supersportimpalass]

Rear fender on the Commander is too fugly. The fender on the polished tank Norton looked 1000x better.

[@jimjarr5383]

Hi Stuart, Great vid, please tell me the name of bike at 11:52.

[@paultanton4307]

Last bikes at the end of the Video were Honda Africa Twins.

[@jimjarr5383]

@@paultanton4307 Thanks for the reply but I found out is a Harley panam.

[@jjames2162]

I thought Norton went out of business ??

[@stuartfillingham]

I think they all did at some stage!

[@SteffanoDucati]

The Commando looks excellent ... but a paltry 70 hp ??? What a wasted effort ....

[@nigelmitchell351]

Who's engine is in that Atlas ?

[@stuartfillingham]

Is that a trick question?

[@nigelmitchell351]

@@stuartfillingham Not all all.? I assume then you are saying that Norton have designed and built this new engine in house? A very expensive exercise when Rotax etc, could supply a proven engine. If the former is the case then I take my hat off to them, but in the past i have bought new bikes with unproven engines and wouldn't do it again.

[@stuartfillingham]

I believe the design is Nortons own, the components are made by several overseas manufacturers and will be assembled by Norton. Almost all manufacturers operate this way these days, There no point tooling up to make the parts yourself, when there are hundreds of companies worldwide that are already set up to do it for you at a vastly reduced cost.

[@nigelmitchell351]

@@stuartfillingham Cheers, well I wish them every sucess I stood there loving it.!!!!!

[@shrory]

those radiators look bloody awful, they look like an after thought

[@richardhobbs9038]

Bike Porn at the end ? For me would be electrics like Zero , Energica and Lightning Etc.

[@stuartfillingham]

Im old school!

[@richardhobbs9038]

@@stuartfillingham - Me too . . . had a Norton 850 Interstate 1973 . Love / Hate relationship !

[@stormytempest3907]

COMMANDO? STYLE WISE SPOT ON, ENGINEERING SPOT ON, PURCHASE COST FROM NEW? REDICULOUS! JUST TO EXPENSIVE, TO ME ANYWAY.

[@lieugebo805]

They are beautiful but they are way overpriced

[@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk]

I find it ironic that membership of the EU saw the British bike industry flounder like an oxygen starved kipper yet as we get set to take the helm of our own destiny and steer a course of our own making the British bike industry is undergoing a renaissance. Hopefully things can only get better as we learn to rely on our own metal once again. The empire killed our competitive edge such that we relied too much on obligated markets and EU homogenised regulation serves no better if we are to compete in a wider sphere... Such that CCM has to build limited editions to by pass EU costly regulation is utter bullshit..

[@paulg8730]

It was in it's death throes before we even joined the Common market as it then was. Good old British management again. If you think the powers that be will be any better in future well, good luck with that one.

[@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk]

@@paulg8730 It certainly was unstable before, yet clearly the EU was never the solution such that it has become the labour government of the 60's and 70's. Big Government R us.. I believe in Brits so I hold no fear that once unshackled from the imperial ambitions of the EU superstate we will fly high. Union power was curtailed in the 80's so time for Brit Empire II. It will be glorious!!

[@paulg8730]

@@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk Have you taken your meds today?

[@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk]

None left... The remainer's took them all. I guess their need is greater. )

[@paulg8730]

@@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk That explains a lot. However as a remainer i can say i suffer no delusions of grandeur nor do i pine for an Empire long gone never to return. There is a saying in boxing, a good big 'un will always beat a good little 'un. This also applies to trade as brexiteers will find as they negotiate with Trumps' America, China and yes the EU. Rule Brittania.

[@bigred8438]

CCM, mouth watery machine for the connesiour with a very thick wallet. Bikes for dreamers and the rich.