A Hybrid? Really? | Yamaha Fascino FAQ #4

[@motorinc]

Yamaha Fascino FAQ kzbin.info/aero/PLr0Tor0L-2JOQ02cV20cvur0E3swgjxww

[@Themarchstory]

We want full length review for fascino and best two wheeler options under 1lakh for daily commute (mostly highway)❤

[@mohammedmusheed5815]

What is the mileage of this Yamaha fascino

[@vardanrathi7777]

Took a test drive recently. The silent start system is literally so silent that an average Activa user will definitely hit the push button start twice.

[@AmalDevYT]

Isn't new activa has silent start too ?

[@vardanrathi7777]

@@AmalDevYT Yes but Activa is using ACG tech which is just an engineering solution to the current engine whereas Fascino is using entirely a different motor. Activa is a little bit silent whereas Fascino is dead silent

[@suryateja2k11]

My cousin has a fascino which uses older engine i.e, non hybrid but it does has a silent starter. It's really dead silent

[@motorinc]

😂

[@dr.pushpakmali5261]

I love the sound of my activa. It just soothing to hear 🎉

[@dark420passenger]

65kmpl?!! That is bonkers. And the scooty also looks good, especially I liked the rear styling.

[@AdityaSingh-gb2lk]

It looks ugly to me for some reason😅

[@suryateja2k11]

​@@AdityaSingh-gb2lki appreciate your opinion

[@sriicasm]

My friend has the ray (hybrid version), it feels like an EV to ride, very very silent and smooth Edit : typo

[@66nagarajreddy]

Who on earth likes this ugly looking scooter? Yes, definitely looks matters 😊

[@dark420passenger]

​@@66nagarajreddyto each his own. I like the style because the lines are clean and the rear curves are neat. It is not too flashy but it's elegant and proportionate.

[@manikdutt1098]

I would strongly agree to it… I hired this scooter in Goa during my 1st wedding Anniversary celebration for 4 days and got its tank full out of my older habit…as i am a thunderbird 500 rider 😅 BUT lesser did i knew that I would be in for a surprise…My vacation ended but there was still half tank fuel left in it….😂😂

[@ashwinparameshwara]

Same experience 😂for me

[@kartoonz82]

Same here lol

[@kanhaiyakawatra]

Bhai mumbai ya delhi ke traffic me ride karna. Fir dekhna milege kaise drop hota h. By the way same experience in goa for me too.

[@gauravdutt7811]

Same thing happened to me. I was in goa for 1 week and more than half tank was remained. From that day i decided to buy Fasino and guess what i purchased it 3 days ago 😁

[@NajmiArshi]

Now what's your experience

[@suryateja2k11]

65 kmpl average is nuts for a 125 cc scooter. My 110 cc activa barely gives 51 kmpl when cruising at 50-60 kmph on an open road. A rough average is 45-48. Highest is 53.2 kmpl which I felt great.

[@SandeepKumar-gp8sf]

I don't understand in an era of BS6, nearly multiplied price tag and nearing silver Jubilee of this century why Japanese manufacturers still don't provide rear disc brake or rear 12inch wheel? Disc can be optional but what holds them from 12 inch rear for upto 125cc! OLA's front and rear 12inch wheels feel great.

[@motorinc]

Totally agree

[@suryateja2k11]

@@SandeepKumar-gp8sf that's the sad part of Japanese by the way.

[@TheFourthWinchester]

45 is nuts for Activa in city. Mine did less than 28kmpl.

[@manvikyadav4272]

Fascino 125 average 60 -65 km/h is truth but Honda activa 45 -48 maximum average

[@thulashipuramarun]

Rather than calling it as hybrid, Its actually an electric torque assist system

[@vardanrathi7777]

If raised hatchbacks can be called SUVs then Fascino is definitely a hybrid 😂

[@MrAntrikch]

​@@vardanrathi7777"Compact" SUV please Sir. If you will. - Every Creta Nexon Seltos Brezza owner ever.

[@The.Dark.Knight.]

Uhhh... forgot the whole Maruti SHVS 'smart hybrid' saga??😂

[@vardanrathi7777]

@@MrAntrikch Spresso owner be like: Microscopic SUV? 😂😂

[@Electronicbowler]

​@@vardanrathi7777if grandma had wheels she would be a bike🤣

[@MegaRazzzz]

Got the Fascino for my wife last year. We're getting 47 kmpl on really bad roads.

[@DhruvtejJadhav-ew1vb]

I also want to purchase it for my wife. should I go for Fascino or ray Zr?

[@MegaRazzzz]

@@DhruvtejJadhav-ew1vb i don't know much about RayZR but Fascino is a solid choice.

[@sumongogoi3810]

I have changed the odometer cable thrice in the two and a half years I have had it and replaced the original battery. Other than that it's been running smoothly. I never missed a service and regularly change gear oil even though it is recommended for every other service. Mileage varies between 50-60 depending on how throttle happy I am.

[@AkashYadav-vh9hu]

Rode this, loved it. Got the old carb Access 125, 13 years old now which might need a replacement soon. I'd love this to come home just waiting for Home Minister to approve it.

[@motorinc]

Thanks for sharing AkashYadav-vh9hu! We're just curious, apart from wanting a change, is there another reason why you aren't considering the current Access 125?

[@AkashYadav-vh9hu]

@@motorinc Suzuki after sales shutdown near my place of stay. Also, it would be the same scooter afterall so another Japanese would be just nicer. The stance of Fascino felt nice to the HM too. The current Gen Access design is just off to us. Also, you get thr Bumblebee Yellow from Yamaha. I believe reliability and longevity is a given with Yamaha, I'd need you to please confirm on that. It would help me with getting the approval since HM is also looking at your reviews and videos. You are our Go-To now 🤗😁

[@jayakrishnakj]

Yes i m getting 65 plus in city and 80 in long drive very much happy about milege

[@motorinc]

Those are great numbers @jayakrishnakj! Glad you're having a good time.

[@kanhaiyakawatra]

80 to company bhi claim nhi karti. Kuch to sharam karo kitna jhoot bologe

[@shubhamchoudhary1203]

​@@kanhaiyakawatra aise chaman pta ni kahan se ate hain...ya to inhe calculation nhi ati hai...ya dimag se paidal hai

[@swapysss9619]

U must be riding in air or in dream to say 80kmpl....??

[@jayakrishnakj]

@@swapysss9619 yes i am riding on air

[@SandeepKumar-gp8sf]

When rear wide tyre is new that 10 inch wheel feels unstable on straight line riding and after running above 7-8k kms mostly solo rear, tyre settles but 12 inch front thin tyre feels skinny and unconfident lacking grip. They are Maxxis tyres. I felt the same with MRFs on another Ray ZR.

[@madgunnerbomb]

My local Yamaha showroom did a mileage test and the max someone scored was 89 kmpl! Yep it's not a typo 89 kmpl!

[@motorinc]

Oh wow! That's a lot of mileage, this isn't even hypermiling. This is beyond that.😀

[@sayantanmondal4494]

Today I bought this hybrid one and this time Yamaha really works on the suspension which I faced previously.. rest it’s the smoothest for me..

[@Abhishek.j.p]

Congrats bro 🎉🎉How much is it on road? Did you get the disc variant or the drum.

[@sayantanmondal4494]

@ on road disc variant cost me near about 114000 without accessories in Hyderabad

[@truthseeker107Walk-sn3nq]

Thank you for the knowledge and great work brother 💯...the best 💯

[@JH09SUMIT]

Wow.. I had this idea about using the alternator magnet as a brushless starter motor and hybrid power train I saw brands using it as the starter but didn't know they also used it as a hybrid system.

[@soumikchowdhury1707]

what about the battery consumption? will it drain quicker as compared to normal non hybrid scooters?! and how big is the space under the seat?

[@Akshay-xs1wf]

No battery issues my hybrid ray zr is still running on stock battery from last three years

[@amvkarthik]

🤯starter+motor+generator? Wow!

[@himanshutripathi7441]

Yeeeey , future is happening . YEEEEEEY .

[@destinationholiday4295]

Hi, I am going for a two wheeler for the first time.... shortlisted Faschino, Access amd Avenis...any suggestions is more than welcome

[@firdijoules9556]

Same this side. Why is nobody replying ??? Any expert out here....??? 😃

[@firdijoules9556]

Anyone ??

[@neelpandey7017]

Good for Avenis, look, performance and mileage

[@ajzs23ultra]

@destinationholiday4295 motos smoothness and good service center you can go Fasino all day Access has disadvantages like the seat it's very hard you need aftermarket but advantage it is little bit good for practicality Avenis is only for design same engine as access I would bet on Fasino

[@debarshibarua1225]

What is difference is between Yamaha fasinco and fasinco S ?

[@mayurgaonkar7453]

How much efficiency increase?

[@ajzs23ultra]

I was in goa we got a brand new facino 2022 , one suzuki access and one honda activa surprisingly we did get 60+ easy mileage activa was the worst which drank 1ltr for 33kms access was somewhere around 40

[@motorinc]

Thanks for sharing your experience, @ajzs23ultra!

[@AnubhabKundu]

My dad has a yamaha fascino 125 bs6 (phase 1). Purchased in Jan 2021. The scooter is running smoothly but had few ECU related issues that led to engine check light coming up in the initial days. The battery has been replaced once after 1.5 years . The scooter has done 7300+ km on the odo. The scooter taillamps look like the wings of a migratory bird, called Wandering Albatross. Few months earlier, the speedometer cable of the scooter snapped and has been replaced. In 2022, the drum brake cables were also replaced after one cable snapped during a city ride. Its only dad who rides the scooter and I dont intend to learn riding a scooter, as I plan to learn a safer option, driving.

[@motorinc]

Phew! That was a rollercoaster of a read @AnubhabKundu. Thank you for sharing!

[@ssc1348]

How's the comfort over bridge expansion joints?

[@lucifer99095]

Fascino or Ray ZR which one is best for beginner? (Jise bike chalani nahi aati ho uske liye)

[@mohammadadhil1789]

Which are other two wheelers with hybrid

[@SandeepKumar-gp8sf]

I got a non hybrid Ray ZR 125 rally. Hybrid came just 2 months after I took this. Still I get 55-60kmpl comfortably.

[@motorinc]

That's really good for a scooter.

[@vishnumenon6541]

So this is essentially the same system has SHVS in Suzuki cars?

[@AnubhabKundu]

Yes but the only difference is there is no separate battery pack and the starter battery is also the electric assist battery.

[@anonymoususer3278]

Fascino back tail looks very weird. I was about to purchase it. But didn't purchased just due to weird back long tail looks. They should go back to previous model. There tail should end after the seat.

[@kathiresanb7524]

Explain about 'TVS Feather touch start' is that same?

[@SapphireTvYt]

Bad electronic/electrical sustem can give you nightmare. Not hating this scooter but a general though as I have ola electric scooter.

[@TheWanderingSoul7]

Are hybrid motorcycles a possibility like hybrid scooter ?

[@helloworld.w6075]

Honda working on it

[@relangi_mavayya]

i've seen people get as low as 36 and as high as 90 on highways which one should we believe?

[@motorinc]

Mileage certainly varies based on how someone drives @relangi_mavayya so there's no reason to assume that either is wrong. But we believing expecting ~60kmpl is realistic for most people.

[@relangi_mavayya]

@@motorinc what if im a throttle freak? you know pulling the throttle often in traffic how much would you guys assume could be the mileage for me?

[@baseplate8428]

@@relangi_mavayyaif you like speed that much then you can get the Yamaha aerox 155 mileage would be 35-45

[@SandeepKumar-gp8sf]

The only reason it doesn't sell as much as expected is it fails to impress in test rides due to unstable rear wheel when new and feels too light as well hence word of the mouth doesn't get convincing. My friend took an Avenis instead despite my good suggestion of Yamaha.

[@motorinc]

Noted!

[@anindyamitra5091]

a video on Honda Shine series

[@aviralsrivastava7314]

Damn, that's great

[@rajeshsahu74070]

Activa 125 vs facino 125 who is best 😢

[@srmsriram9273]

Under seat storage ?

[@vinaypatidar5901]

How the battery getting charged?

[@TheBigV_008]

Could that mean more battery replacements during the lifetime? 🤔

[@Ashes-9]

The worst scooter imho. Purchased last year in mar the special edition matte black and gold. 1. Always had engine light malfunctions and the scooter wont start. It left me stranded 3 times and twice it was the fuse. 2. Battery had faults and the company didn’t give me warranty and the hassle was so much it was easier to buy a new battery. 3.The hybrid assist is a whimsical mechanism. It may or may not work. 4. Unreliable electricals make it a nightmare to own. 5. Worst resale. It was really difficult to sell it. Yamaha offered me 30k ( for a 6 months old under 2000kms run ) originally bought for 1L on road. 6. Amazing amazing mileage, but a vehicle with that kind of reliability, who gives a damn. Im sure it would’ve been a much more reliable product if the hybrid and bluetooth connectivity wouldnt have been there. But for now, Thank god its gone. ❤

[@JangidSumit]

And that is why Activa sells. I had an Activa 5g i bought in feb 2019 and sold it October last year for ₹40k to Wheelscart(a used 2 wheelers sales and purchase company).

[@narendran7818]

Since i owned fasino for 2 years my battery has died

[@MegaRazzzz]

Your luck was bad and you got a faulty unit.

[@Ashes-9]

@@MegaRazzzztrue and FOR ME Yamaha is trash 😊

[@10daysAgo]

​@@Ashes-9it still ranks 1 world wide in customer satisfaction. Well I guess yamaha tried to compromise with the price since Indians are too conscious about it 😂.

[@ravibiswas1527]

Is grazia a hybrid too?

[@amitdhuri1684]

Even activa has the starter motor, why are they not used to increase fuel effecancy

[@suryateja2k11]

And activa has 110 cc engine as well with less power figures and a 10 kg more kerb weight when compared to fascino at 110 kg. I guess it's time to move away from activa. My activa 5g barely gives me 50 kmpl and I ride at economy speeds not more than 60 kmph

[@DasTubai]

Should I buy Yamaha Fascino or TVS Jupiter?

[@motorinc]

Please take a test ride of both and see what you like better @DasTubai, that being said, we'd put the Jupiter above the Fascino.

[@kalyantheindian954]

I test drove Suzuki Avenis & Fascino & Access 125, but liked Avenis more in terms of ride quality than Fascino.

[@s2tp97]

The main reason for getting such high fuel efficiency is another one. Yamaha has intentionally engineered out 'engine braking' in their hybrid models. The moment you leave throttle, the scooter becomes neutral and starts coasting. Whereas other brand scooters have strong CVT-based engine braking which limits speed to 70kph even on a downhill. 'Coasting' on plane roads and downhill will obviously result ingreat FE. But it's a very dangerous situation tbh 🙃

[@bane4165]

Could you explain how it is okay to call it "dangerous".Don't we all apply brake when going downhill?

[@66nagarajreddy]

May be better in terms of fuel efficiency but really who designed this thing 😂

[@sandy99797]

People in this segment care more about mileage than design

[@PrinceKumar-ng1ly]

You can go for rayzr

[@daizz5500]

This design is loved by females it will not be for some males

[@chintakgurjar8426]

Design inspiration was from European scooters. It’s not that bad when you compare it with mileage. However RaZer 125 street rally is good in design too with same engine and mileage.

[@flash5545]

Please do royal enfield himalayan too 😢🙏

[@va_technicals81]

I have Honda Shine 125 2024 with ACG silent start

[@theexif]

RayZR is also Hybrid right?

[@motorinc]

Yes @theexif.

[@AkashJaiswalAJ]

I had first gen fascino it returned 25 to 27 kmpl

[@Dr_Vikram_MD]

Its a nice scooter, except for the suspension. Its too stiff! I get fuel economy of 52-53 n almost 100% city riding conditions. No complaints other than the suspension.

[@pegasus6573]

my height is 5ft can i ride it ?

[@vasuboy20]

It's scooter, even kid can

[@romeldias]

But they need to bring back the old design cos this one is very odd with that flamingo butt!

[@motorinc]

Maybe!

[@amolshenoy6745]

And the brake light design is like a Thong

[@TheFourthWinchester]

No. It looks like a bee. I love the design.

[@AnubhabKundu]

​@@TheFourthWinchesterwandering albatross bird

[@37jayeshpatil90]

New TVS 110cc Jupiter has this hybrid tech.

[@motorinc]

Yes, it does @37jayeshpatil90

[@vzvish]

like the 'Mild/Smart Hybrid' of Suzuki cars ?

[@motorinc]

Yes, sort of @vzvish!

[@krishanu202]

Make video on Suzuki Avinis

[@motorinc]

Can do!

[@RatnaManikBrahma]

Wow❤

[@RevItUpMumbai]

Then their is me who managed to get 66kmpl from bs4 Yamaha r15 v3

[@80hazarkeshoeshain]

I get 46-51 kmpl in city.

[@sagarrk7241]

Same with Ray ZR

[@motorinc]

Yes. RayZR and the Fascino differ only in terms of design and what that changes for the rider/pillion in how they sit

[@hussi125]

Do we have to charge it like an ev?

[@motorinc]

No!

[@vivek_shenoy]

Just drove a Fascino (brand new and run just 50kms) and there is no way in hell it's better than an Activa.

[@motorinc]

Good to know @vivek_shenoy! What's your reason for rating the Activa so high?

[@vivek_shenoy]

@@motorinc Reliability and Refinement. As an added bonus Activa looks sharper in terms of design. But I know looks are subjective.

[@Unknown_Rider2005]

Make video on hero Xtreme 160r

[@motorinc]

Coming soon!

[@-humsafar]

😕hope suzuki comes with a similar technology for access it would be amazing

[@motorinc]

🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@memelords1232]

Why dont u say anything on vespa

[@tonywarisa2905]

Found my daily driver thanks

[@motorinc]

🤜🏽🤛🏽

[@akshaybhaiji292]

Honda sp125 has the same

[@avinashsidar0902]

Me getting 33kmpl on my 7 yr old fascino

[@tanujkhanna5133]

Splendor

[@motorinc]

🙌

[@princefriendship]

But without regenerative braking this hybrid is incomplete.

[@motorinc]

Regen on a hybrid? Why so @princefriendship?

[@princefriendship]

@@motorinc If they've already installed a battery and motor in this hybrid scooter, adding regenerative braking wouldn't have been difficult and would ultimately improve the scooter's efficiency even further.

[@biswajeetsamal9927]

Does this new tech increases the mechanical complexity? If yes, it can be a nightmare as it gets old. As all of you know that BS6 has increased a lot of complexity for the mechanics and the electronic parts make repairs & maintenance expensive than it's previous models.

[@AmalDevYT]

Coil may malfunction

[@mekrishna2]

65 kmpl ?? 😮😮 Really

[@mekrishna2]

@@baburavganpatravapte wow

[@becxatechno1323]

I got 62

[@AdV19]

It is a scam. Hybrid in cars refers to the engine which can run on petrol as well as with automatic rechargeable battery. Rather than using the term Hybrid, Yamaha should try to give petrol tank lid in the front under the handle.

[@motorinc]

Not a scam @AdV19, there are different kinds of hybrids. Some are used just for the added performance, similar to the Fascino's.

[@shashankchauhan4981]

Wait wait wait! When did we start talking about 0-40 times??? Come back Rewind Who what??? Why 0-40?

[@ankitnagar7666]

Worst scooter i ever had. Ive had 2 ECU replacements in fewer than 16 months. Its ECU costs 10k which is WAY higher than what you could afford to change every 6 months. I heard yamahas were reliable but this is giving me more problems than anything i ever owned. I never knew affording a two wheeler could be so difficult. Yamaha should be sued for this. Why make something so easily damaged so expensive? And the worst part is that they don’t even know how to avoid this ECU problem. They simply ask you to get a new one as if it costs peanuts.

[@yogeshpilankar]

It's a national holiday scooter #goa

[@vikas3148]

TVS JUPITER standard 110 give 70km/L as mileage

[@motorinc]

Thanks for letting us know!

[@vipin1003]

That’s really huge. I get 44 maximum

[@vipin1003]

@@vikas3148 sure. Will try that

[@becxatechno1323]

I got 62 mileage...

[@motorinc]

❤️

[@yourstatus2001]

I get 60kmpl

[@Qwerkywoop]

65kmpl? Really?

[@motorinc]

Up to 65kmpl @Qwerkywoop! We personally haven't tested it.

[@Qwerkywoop]

@@motorinc that's fabulous 🔥

[@najibrizvi]

Wow that makes me want one but it looks shit... so no go

[@shubhenduchakraborty8848]

Ntorq users with shitty mileage and great engine. 💀💀 #no_offence_to_yam_fascino is great.

[@Waghsantosh-d9y]

Look bhi sudhar lo Kitna bekar he

[@shawezmansuri3586]

Hindi mein bolna tha to main le leta gadi

[@akhilsadarani10]

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[@rahilhasan9095]

on the verge of making efficient engines they have taken out the soul of these engines no more fun

[@Mayankk196]

Look at his every review. He always cherish foreign brand and criticize indian brand.

[@Okallekutta]

❤he's good

[@Sujeesh_Bhosri]

He criticizes only Honda Activa

[@acebirmathema]

Is 65km/ltr real ???

[@KOhcl]

Rayzr with the same mechanical is giving about 45 to 50 kmpl on hilly area....on plain area 60 kmpl might be possible

[@Okallekutta]

Reported right

[@hantoh_.boliye]

ECU ruining the savings and reliability