MotorWeek | Retro Review: '87 Renault Alliance GTA

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@johnbeardsley6448
@johnbeardsley6448 6 жыл бұрын
I owned a GTA while stationed in Germany. Broke it in brand new on the autobahn. Made a trip from Herzogenaurach to Garmisch and back with basically my foot pressing the accelerator into the floorboard the entire way. She took it without any complaints. It wasn't a muscle car or a true sports car but it was a joy to drive once I got used to the extremely responsive steering.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise 3 жыл бұрын
I wish the U.S. had an autobahn.
@phil-Leotardo.171
@phil-Leotardo.171 8 жыл бұрын
Ah the Renault Grand Theft Auto
@brandenmarshall686
@brandenmarshall686 3 жыл бұрын
I had a silver GTA in 94'. Block was acid dipped and shaved, port & polished intake and exhaust. tuned cam/engine mapped. Custom headers with straight pipe and cherry bomb, 124hp. 0-100kmh 4.3sec /4.9sec. Top speed was around 260-270kmh. could take right angled corners on city roads at 40km. It was a great car. Could beat factory 5.0 mustangs light to light but on the HWY they would go in to third and blast me. I always wanted to get a turbo from a R5 , i thought that would have been great!
@ronaldgreen5292
@ronaldgreen5292 Жыл бұрын
Nice 👌
@CTjacob13
@CTjacob13 9 жыл бұрын
Wow. This thing would only cost about $23,000 fully loaded today. Not bad at all.
@McFlyGuitarsandStuff
@McFlyGuitarsandStuff 9 жыл бұрын
I owned 5 Renault's, 3 were the GTA. The GTA's were a gas to drive. At the limit the rear would slide nicely.I beat many 4 cylinder car's with it. Part's were abundant and cheap, but they just never needed any.People who bad mouth them have no clue what they are talking about.The body was even galvanized.I would love to have a 4th GTA. With a Mazdaspeed 2.3 turbo with a bit of work under the hood!
@banjo-boy-montreal126
@banjo-boy-montreal126 9 жыл бұрын
+martin vaccaro I had countless Renaults as I was one of the few in the area that could work on them. I miss my black GTA. I did put a Nissan SR20 and the 5 speed into an Alliance, I got a totaled SE-R wound up having to section in pieces, custom make engine mounts, and solder and splice the nissan and renault wiring harnesses together (would have been way easier to just drop the drive train in a base sentra). Today there are more engine swap choices but also more competent chassis to swap, unfortunately time marches on. I was really into the Renaults back in the day, and they were good cars, largely misunderstood with the RENIX electronics, TBI Injection, and ever changing part suppliers Ducellier, Paris-Rhone (later Valeo) and then in the final years Bosch. The one thing that always amazed me is for a light car how thick the sheet metal was, they were almost impervious to door dings and minor dents. I search Craigslist often for another Renault and I haven't seen an Alliance/Encore, Fuego or Le Car for sale in years, who knows maybe I'll find a clean original example to tool around in one of these days.
@McFlyGuitarsandStuff
@McFlyGuitarsandStuff 9 жыл бұрын
+Banjo-Boy-Montreal I would love to find another and a crashed Mazdaspeed engine to shoe horn in there!
@jonathangrunig8288
@jonathangrunig8288 7 жыл бұрын
The Renaut 5 GT Turbo engine require less work. Or buy a 5 GT Turbo. Or a Renault 11 Turbo (same car as the Alliance...)
@bigmedge
@bigmedge 4 жыл бұрын
@@banjo-boy-montreal126 Sorry, I'm curious about where you said "solder and splice the nissan and renault wiring harnesses together". What was your thought process for figuring out which wires to splice among the 2 harnesses ?
@darrinbush5953
@darrinbush5953 3 жыл бұрын
I had one, so fun to drive, geared low, dump the clutch and floor it but be ready to shift
@jdonns2221
@jdonns2221 9 жыл бұрын
Loving that you guys are doing more oddball kinds of retro reviews. It's neat seeing reviews of cars that maybe didn't work out, or sell well rather then the standard cars we can see everywhere else.
@cherrym6262
@cherrym6262 8 жыл бұрын
My dad use to have a like this and gave it to my mom. It was such a rare car being it was an 88 and he gave the car to my mom in 1998.I'm surprise it lasted as long it did.
@fernandorocha-dx1wv
@fernandorocha-dx1wv 10 ай бұрын
Very nice and beautiful the Renault GTA
@slightlyusedpsx
@slightlyusedpsx 9 жыл бұрын
For its era, I give this vehicle credit for its body paint-matched bumper covers.
@halohunter5217
@halohunter5217 5 жыл бұрын
Escort GT and Cavalier Z24 had them too. Not that special for the high end model.
@kristianhermann5971
@kristianhermann5971 4 жыл бұрын
That thing cornered amazing through that slalom! Super flat. What a handler. Yet to see one of these in Canada.
@judethaddaeus9742
@judethaddaeus9742 3 жыл бұрын
GTA stood for “Grand Tourisme Alpine,” and is what they called their 4th generation rear-engine sports car in Europe. So the US arm went with GTA to pay homage to their sports car.
@cjquillinan5686
@cjquillinan5686 7 жыл бұрын
I had one of these in red hardtop. It was a blast to drive and I surprised many other faster cars, because they thought they could win by halfassing it. I miss the fun I had with it.
@SabreLilly.
@SabreLilly. 9 жыл бұрын
Motor Week once again showing me an interesting car that I never knew existed. Keep 'em coming!
@dorientjewoller113
@dorientjewoller113 7 жыл бұрын
Never seen James Bonds "A View To A Kill" ?
@IsoscelesKramer
@IsoscelesKramer 5 жыл бұрын
@@dorientjewoller113 That was a Fuego.
@dorientjewoller113
@dorientjewoller113 5 жыл бұрын
@@IsoscelesKramer Than was a Renault 11. The Renault Fuego is a total different car. Although, I think in some countries the R11 was sold under the Fuego name.
@miketoomer6464
@miketoomer6464 9 жыл бұрын
Had an 85 renault encore new. Put over 300,000 on it and all I had to do was a clutch and a head gasket.
@kanobeez
@kanobeez 9 жыл бұрын
Mike Toomer I was lucky enough to have a nice French man who specialized in only French cars. He had every part available from France. He had all those nice French cars that fetch big money nowadays. I doubt my Encore could fetch 50 bucks. It cost me 50 bucks to remove it from my property! lol
@rickslick730
@rickslick730 9 жыл бұрын
I got this new in 1987 when they first came out,it was between this or the Acura Integra, l was 20 years old, at the time, it was all white with gray interior, I paid 10,350, and had so much fun with this car
@MrGoldenwaffler
@MrGoldenwaffler 9 жыл бұрын
Ive always liked the styling of the Alliance. Really plush inside too. Ride was smooth and economy was excellent.
@eltonjohn3236
@eltonjohn3236 7 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. It was a very clean design.
@MrGoldenwaffler
@MrGoldenwaffler 7 жыл бұрын
Its still seems like a more sophisticated style compared to the corollas n friends of the time
@eltonjohn3236
@eltonjohn3236 7 жыл бұрын
The SR5 hatch was nice for the time. The sedan, not so much
@MrGoldenwaffler
@MrGoldenwaffler 7 жыл бұрын
I beg to differ. My sister had a 5 speed sedan way back when and it was pretty sweet. So i thought anyhow
@hamerplayer1229
@hamerplayer1229 7 жыл бұрын
I had one in college. It rode great but lost 5th gear and then started to kick out of 4th gear. I didn't have to worry long as one day it just overheated even though the temp gauge was normal. Motor was blown and she went to the scrapper
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 9 жыл бұрын
Renaults are magnificent! That steering wheel is just superb!
@jonathangrunig8288
@jonathangrunig8288 7 жыл бұрын
It came from the Renault 5 Alpine.
@mrdaykurutakuchannel
@mrdaykurutakuchannel 7 жыл бұрын
I know! I wish i had at least the captur or the clio here in indonesia with honda HRV and fit price....
@awakawiateazrutyialocinadn5207
@awakawiateazrutyialocinadn5207 6 жыл бұрын
And they are so hipster/hippie/indie and speakingly, rare (just as Nissan and Mitsubishi anyway) in my view... - ialociN
@FEGTTTSDH
@FEGTTTSDH 4 жыл бұрын
@ where is the joke?
@peterbogdan9176
@peterbogdan9176 3 жыл бұрын
I had one of these. Had to wiggle the wiring to get it going sometimes but it was a great little car lots of fun to drive.
@kenboughton9252
@kenboughton9252 3 жыл бұрын
I had the hatchback version called the 1983 Encore. For its time, gas milage was decent, high 20s to low 30s. After a year, it became a money pit. It died on the highway, when the computer quit in1989.
@steveespinola7652
@steveespinola7652 4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing these cars as a kid while me and my brother were visiting our grandparents ( may they rest in peace 😔) in Graciosa, Azores.
@nwilczyn
@nwilczyn 8 жыл бұрын
The former amc hq (not the one in the background in this vid) on Plymouth Road in Detroit is probably about to be destroyed... Rest in peace, AMC
@Phillphine
@Phillphine 2 жыл бұрын
I had one. Got it used in '93. It actually was a fun car to drive, when it ran. A month after I got it, the timing belt broke. Between just starting to make payments on it, and having only a month before made the down payment, it sat for a while til I got the money together to have it repaired. I had decent luck with it for a while, but then broke one of the fwd cv joints, so it sat for a while again (did I mention that I'm not rich?). I kept it about 3 years (two years paying on it, and about a year saving for something else), and toward the end had it in a shop it seemed like every couple months. Extra fun because since it was a special edition alliance, no regular alliance parts interchanged, so every repair had the added time of ordering and waiting for parts. That also hindered my saving to replace it. Again fun and stylish when it ran, but if I could go back and advise myself on the buy, I wouldn't touch it.
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 7 жыл бұрын
I think this GTA is a pretty cool looking ride actually!
@truckr74
@truckr74 6 жыл бұрын
I remember George C Scott doing the commercials for AMC/Renault
@9890jsp
@9890jsp 9 жыл бұрын
It looks like a Chrysler K car and a Pontiac sunbird mixed together, maybe it's just me. I knew Renault was sold here, but I never knew of this vehicle. Interesting video.
@Le_Rennais
@Le_Rennais 8 жыл бұрын
We called that car RENAULT 9 in FRANCE - Except the Renault 9 was only available with 4 doors and no convertible was available - and the top range was the 1.7 litres atmo or the 1.4 turbo
@anthonyfalzon57
@anthonyfalzon57 4 жыл бұрын
It is the Renailt 9 in France, however when Renault merged with AMC they realized they needed an American view to be successful. So AMC's chief designer, the awesome Richard Teague (R.I.P. Mr. Teague) took the Renault 9 and created the Alliance, making it as American as it could be.
@zythr9999
@zythr9999 3 ай бұрын
That's nice.
@cg8888
@cg8888 9 жыл бұрын
Accusound by Jensen?! Wwwoooooww......
@misamisatv
@misamisatv 9 жыл бұрын
Do you have a review on the Renault Fuego? I would LOVE to see it!!
@kanobeez
@kanobeez 9 жыл бұрын
misamisatv The commercials for the turbo were cool, I think!
@blubayou2551
@blubayou2551 8 жыл бұрын
+misamisatv I heard some stories on the Fuego,they did catch engine fire,lol
@misamisatv
@misamisatv 8 жыл бұрын
Jorge Bobe Yup! hence the name fuego! :P
@scdevon
@scdevon 7 жыл бұрын
Yes they did catch fire. Thankfully, most of them burned to the ground when they caught fire and were taken out of the gene pool.
@TechTimeWithEric
@TechTimeWithEric 7 жыл бұрын
A video on the Fuego Turbo was just released today
@vh9network
@vh9network 9 жыл бұрын
I'm wowed by this car, I wouldn't mind driving this today.
@mjallen1308
@mjallen1308 6 жыл бұрын
My mom had an alliance... I used to be scared of it because it broke down so much, I thought it would blow up if I stayed in the garage too long with it.
@ftffighter
@ftffighter Жыл бұрын
I heard the GTA's were an entirely different animal when it came to reliability.
@miketoomer6464
@miketoomer6464 9 жыл бұрын
I would love to see more retro reviews for Renault models.
@earlygail
@earlygail 7 жыл бұрын
Love these obscure ones. Little cars lost to time
@samesource
@samesource 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched dozens of these reviews and enjoy them, but in every single one, John Davis refers to "han-dle-ing" with three syllables, instead of the two-syllable word he means, handling. It really grates!
@05gtdriver
@05gtdriver 9 жыл бұрын
I always think of the James Bond movie, I think Roger Moore's final one as 007, where Bond is chasing a baddie on the French Riviera(who's on a glider) and commandeers a Renault 11(a hatchback Alliance called Encore stateside) and the car get cut in half during the chase, but since it's FWD, Bond continues his pursuit until he's able to board a touring vessel LOL
@marcusdamberger
@marcusdamberger 8 жыл бұрын
Yup, that was in A View to a Kill, Roger Moore's last outing as Bond. He was chasing Grace Jones character May Day. Aka Christopher Walken's (Max Zorin) henchwoman from the Eiffel Tower. It was a great chaise sequence. Though it makes you wonder if the image of a Renault splitting in half was the impression a french car maker would want the wold think of their cars.
@ElectoneGuy
@ElectoneGuy 9 жыл бұрын
Having suffered through the ownership of a 1987 Renault Alliance with the 1.4 liter engine, I really wanted to "upgrade" to the GTA at the time. The actual design of these cars was very good. They were comfortable, handled nicely and were very fuel efficient. The problem was the bottom-of-the-barrel quality of assembly. A group of semi-intelligent monkeys could have screwed these cars together better than what passed off as workers at the Kenosha assembly plant. Abysmal quality is an understatement.
@albear972
@albear972 5 жыл бұрын
And you were thinking of getting another slap in the face. "Thank you Sir may I have another"
@cargo4441
@cargo4441 9 жыл бұрын
This video brings back memories my buddy in the navy saw this video when it came out and used his bonus check to reup and bought a new AMC Renault by 1990 his car was dead. Meanwhile my 1985 Mustang gt served me well into the late 1990s.
@laszlopalkonyay4133
@laszlopalkonyay4133 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful car! I was 4 years old in 1992 when i saw a red GTA coupe. Imediately it became my favourite car!
@dkt1976dt
@dkt1976dt 9 жыл бұрын
I had a 1983 AMC Renault Alliance it was a beige 2 door and it was a very good car, they only made the the Alliance GTA for 2 years 1986 and 1987. 1987 was the last year for all Renault models here in the US. In 1988 AMC became Jeep Eagle and were part of Chrysler corporation
@claudioauriemma5886
@claudioauriemma5886 8 жыл бұрын
"The one to watch" As the Renault commercials quoted.
@marcusdamberger
@marcusdamberger 8 жыл бұрын
"The one to watch" as they quickly exit the U.S. market.
@claudioauriemma5886
@claudioauriemma5886 8 жыл бұрын
+Marcus Damberger In French "Renault" could mean "It doesn't run!" AMC was behind them too if I remember.Never had one to experience it.My mom had a Peugeot POS!We got Fiat in this country now (Fix it again Tony).LMAO The 500L interestingly enough is built by Zastava motors in Serbia!The old Yugo factory!Maybe they are people who've had good experiences with these cars.Peace to you
@vincentnocera2521
@vincentnocera2521 4 жыл бұрын
"the one to watch" as they make a break for it out of America and later take over Nissan- and totally destroy an otherwise respectable Japanese automaker!
@claudioauriemma5886
@claudioauriemma5886 4 жыл бұрын
@@vincentnocera2521 Yep You said a mouthful there brother! Amen to that! I had a 93’ Infiniti G20 (Nissan Primera) back in the day. Tough as nails! Peace!
@TheMELTDOWN911
@TheMELTDOWN911 4 жыл бұрын
those front seats are very similar to my 1989 Jeep Cherokee XJ man those are very comfortable seats, I´ve owned many more cars with electric adjustable seats and high tech you can imagine, but those old manual " cradle " adjustable seats are extremely better
@8584zender
@8584zender 8 жыл бұрын
GTA stands for "we need a car to compete with the VW GTI so let's use the same font and color scheme for the emblem and change the last letter"
@knowbodiesfull5768
@knowbodiesfull5768 7 жыл бұрын
AH Well, they were pretty lucky that "A" was available. They couldn't use any of the other vowels because they were already taken.
@sdrape4964
@sdrape4964 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, that is probably an accurate French translation LOL
@thestarlightalchemist7333
@thestarlightalchemist7333 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, that's it, I'm making a car called the GTU
@judethaddaeus9742
@judethaddaeus9742 3 жыл бұрын
GTA was a reference to Renault’s Alpine rear-engine sports car, which wasn’t sold in the US. “Grand Tourisme Alpine,” specifically.
@CreRay
@CreRay 6 жыл бұрын
A surprisingly handsome car, they should have brought it to europe like this! The Renault 11 never looked this good, and although quite modern, it was not a particulary exciting car over here in Europe. I bet the 11 Turbo was not as fast as this GTA.
@billwilmington8284
@billwilmington8284 9 жыл бұрын
I love that intro.
@johnhiram1207
@johnhiram1207 9 жыл бұрын
I had a 85 Encore and great econo box! Ran 185,000 miles.
@DrClaw77
@DrClaw77 9 жыл бұрын
Not bad for early post-Malaise, naturally aspirated, performance variant of an economy car. Still, I wonder if the Renault 9 on which this was based ended up having an even sportier take on this.
@alanparsonsfan
@alanparsonsfan 3 жыл бұрын
Ex had a 'rregular' alliance. Have to say, it got incredible fuel economy (42 hwy) for a 1984, and the ride and handling were unbelievable for such a small car. I should have test-driven a GTA; as others here have noted, more than a passing resemblance to an E30...
@brantisonfire
@brantisonfire 9 жыл бұрын
I had some tires similar to those (Michelin TRX) on a set of used wheels on my E36. I think they came from an E24 5-series because I remember reading that they came as an option on the 5 series in the 80s. I didn't realize how stupid I was for buying that wheel/tire combo until I found out they don't make the TRX anymore. You have to order them through special companies that have the molds for them and are made-to-order and cost hundreds of dollars a piece.
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 9 жыл бұрын
+joh n I don't follow? So you sold them? Can't you get modern tyres in the same size? Is it one of those oddball metric sizes!?
@brantisonfire
@brantisonfire 9 жыл бұрын
Yes, oddball metric. Its measured as 390mm and not the regular 205 65 R15
@wickiezulu
@wickiezulu 9 жыл бұрын
Anyone know how easy it is to fit a 125-132 hp 1.6 Turbo (from the Fuego) or 120-138 hp 2.0-2.2 Douvrin into an Alliance GTA?
@megunded
@megunded 5 жыл бұрын
the engine is an " f " series engine ....so you can fit easy an f7p/r ( 1,8 16v 135 hp or 2liter 148 hp ) into the car the fuego turbo is a bit delicate ....it suffers from problems with the carb.
@ce9345
@ce9345 Жыл бұрын
When MW showed the back seat, the upholstery reminded me of an early 80's Chevy Malibu interior!
@russboquette3700
@russboquette3700 6 жыл бұрын
I autocrossed my GTA in the early 90's. I blew away the rest of H Stock and did very well the cars of the day. I broke a motor mount when autocrossing and repaired it with large zipties and kept racing.
@ronaldgreen5292
@ronaldgreen5292 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@adrianotero7963
@adrianotero7963 5 жыл бұрын
I had one of these in the 80's...purchased it new off the lot....also drove the VW GTI and prefered the GTA......sold it many years later and with many enjoyable miles on the clock...don't have anything negative to say about it ...quite the opposite.
@joshuajohnson8478
@joshuajohnson8478 6 жыл бұрын
Has the Jason Bourne car chase package come out yet?
@tuowl0564
@tuowl0564 5 жыл бұрын
My dad had a tan colored 2 door '84 (iirc?) alliance and my grandfather (his dad) for someone reason bought an '86 4-door one in silver. My dad's was a pretty reliable car that lasted until '90 or '91 when my parent's traded it on an Aerostar. By then my mom drove it while my father had an '88 Thunderbird. My grandfather's was a constant headache (i still remember it breaking down on him on vacation) until he got rid of it in favor an S-10 pickup in '92. The 2-door GTA actually looks pretty good. Something between a VW Jetta and a 3-series of that era.
@Nickos1b
@Nickos1b 9 жыл бұрын
GTA badge in the same letter style as the WV GTi. It even sounds almost the same when you pronounce it. It wasn t by a computer, it was an attempt to associate it with the original hot hatch.
@VieVentar
@VieVentar 9 жыл бұрын
Nickos1b Possibly, but don't forget at the same time they were building this Renault were also building the Alpine GTA - "Grand Tourisme Alpine" It's quite possible they used the same moniker to link it with their Porsche fighter.
@Kingsoupturbo
@Kingsoupturbo 9 жыл бұрын
Very cool car! quite an affordable package!
@rangerpru
@rangerpru 9 жыл бұрын
A girl that I went to school with had a Renault LeCar with a manual transmission. She had a lot of trouble with the transmission. I remember that it had a part that commonly failed. She described the part as being made out of "tin".
@letsgonow5641
@letsgonow5641 8 жыл бұрын
My friend had one. She got it as a grad present. this was a pretty big deal where i came from. As the car was only 5 years old or thereabouts It caught on fire..Never forget it..Its a nice looking car..Did the Nissan Sentra later copy this design..?
@stephen10.
@stephen10. 8 жыл бұрын
th eamericans workers don't know to build a car ? this car had no problem of fire in europe .
@8584zender
@8584zender 8 жыл бұрын
I didn't read Luis's post as the fire being a problem. Rather, he was saying how cool the car was that it would spontaneously combust. That's a feature only seen in high end exotics!
@ronaldderooij1774
@ronaldderooij1774 8 жыл бұрын
Well, I live in Europe, and I saw two of them on fire. And I do not drive that many miles.
@morefeouse
@morefeouse 8 жыл бұрын
My first car was a renault alliance 4 door 1.7 liter . with 26000 miles on it, it was 1987 model .I had problems with that car right off the dealership parking lot. First it was the transmition which for me still under warranty . Then several months later the rear shocks went out and would cost 1000 to replace not under warranty .The ac stopped working ,it was found that it needed an a c compressor at a cost of 800 ,but i never got it fixed because it would bog the engine down so bad that it did not benefit me to get it fixed . A month later the car would not start .The garage that i took it to got it started ,but it quickly caught on fire and caused so much damage after the fire was put out ,it was decided to just junk the car .The car was a big money pit.Even to this day because of my experience with that car ,i refuse to purchase anything from chrysler even though it was an amc brand
@HikikomoriDev
@HikikomoriDev 8 жыл бұрын
+morefeouse ..That's a really detailed story. It's good to hear detailed stories of what happened.
@Mabeylater293
@Mabeylater293 8 жыл бұрын
This is why I will never buy a Renault/Nissan car today. Renault ruined nissans good reliability.
@morefeouse
@morefeouse 8 жыл бұрын
I would love to have a Renault 2017 model today ,but all the bad memories would ruin my experience of owning one again .
@MihaiGradin
@MihaiGradin 7 жыл бұрын
TruAgape1234 Here in Europe Renaults are really reliable if they don't have a Nissan engine in them.
@mikecastellon3022
@mikecastellon3022 5 жыл бұрын
Only company in the world worse than fiat
@rsstrazz6261
@rsstrazz6261 4 жыл бұрын
"Is this the car" - - that had a plastic heater core & when it split, it spewed scalding coolant on it's occupant's legs?
@magicmaker15
@magicmaker15 2 жыл бұрын
I rode in the back of one of those once and I am living to tell you about it.
@nickelliot4301
@nickelliot4301 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a "somewhat dented" GTA Coupe out of the junkyard for $150 and proceeded to drive the heck out of it. This was in the late 1990's, and up to that point, the best-handling FWD car I had ever owned. I still benchmark other FWD cars to that standard.
@dvsrs1989
@dvsrs1989 9 жыл бұрын
Quite like it............a bit reminiscent of the MK1 VW Golf. Dont remember seeing them in the UK.
@monk3yboy69
@monk3yboy69 9 жыл бұрын
You would have seen them.... Renault 9 and Renault 11
@jimgarrity2414
@jimgarrity2414 6 жыл бұрын
those front seats actually look pretty good for a 1987 9k car...
@noamzacks3315
@noamzacks3315 2 жыл бұрын
Also sold as Renault 9 or 11 in Israel.We called it-the sedan version of Renault5(hatchback)
@A_SEGA_Dremcast
@A_SEGA_Dremcast 9 жыл бұрын
You guys didn't happen to cover the Daihatsu Charade way back when did you? That was my first car. 3 Cylinders of fury!
@jeffreyrainey1015
@jeffreyrainey1015 9 жыл бұрын
+Danny Carlin-Weber By the time I was born, anything Dihatsu was gone in North America. I was only introduced to it thanks to the internet. Everything I've seen though has been on the same page as you. :) It looks like the problem that plagued Dihatsu when it entered the North American market was timing. I'm not sure how available parts were for the Charade over here, but cost of replacements has definitely shown to be a battle with manufacturers *especially french* hence their short lifespan.
@A_SEGA_Dremcast
@A_SEGA_Dremcast 9 жыл бұрын
Jeffrey Rainey A tiny econo import isn't going to sell too well when gas was as cheap as it was back then. A name like Daihatsu or Renault doesn't help much, either... Taking care of my Charade was a challenge, as I had it between 2007 and 2009. Parts were very expensive and it simply wasn't worth keeping for that reason alone.
@djkenny1202
@djkenny1202 8 жыл бұрын
Good little cars. Pricey for what they were, but very well built and reliable.
@schomminater
@schomminater 7 жыл бұрын
A neighbor had one of these and it would never start when it got cold in our Wisconsin winters.
@manfromnantucket9544
@manfromnantucket9544 7 жыл бұрын
What was with that dryer hose intake?
@fernandochaves9665
@fernandochaves9665 2 жыл бұрын
A Renault 11 turbo exists if i'm not mistaken...
@FrightfulAccountant
@FrightfulAccountant 8 жыл бұрын
Americans seem to love European cars, as long as they are top spec. This car seems to have equipment that wasn't even available in France!
@tomjoad1363
@tomjoad1363 6 жыл бұрын
Here is a point of view from the other side of the ocean. From here your cars are overloaded with equpment we never heard of for decades. YOur cars in the 50's alfready has stuff we did not have in our own market produced cars such has all the vaccumed or electrical things (seat setting, windows, lock, etc.). At the time we export those car parts to the american soil, the ration betwwen the french Frnac and the US Dollars wasn't good for us though. That's why they thought that since they were selling at a higher price that they would have chosen, the cars should be fully equipped. The bumper have nothing to do with standard equipment or not. It's just your federal rules that imply cars to have a spring mounted bumlper that can handle low speed crash. The GTA has never been sold in France. I guess it stand for "Grand Tourisme America". Here we never had low priced gasoline, and even the 1.7 liter found in some Alience/encore wasn't available. Nowadays the gallon of premium is around $8-9. President trump can yell as much as he wants but our market are way different. Big sedans like Crown Vic will not sell here and never sold here anyway, and since you don't manufacture small cars, hey, that's not our fault ! lol.
@scdevon
@scdevon 6 жыл бұрын
We didn't want them either seeing how AMC went bust trying to sell these unreliable, boring cars. A Honda Civic from the same era was 10x the car that these were.
@BixbyConsequence
@BixbyConsequence 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the days when 10.3 sec 0-60MPH was "very respectable".
@MrHeem94
@MrHeem94 9 жыл бұрын
He said "poop". Tee Hee
@catjudo1
@catjudo1 4 ай бұрын
I wish Renault had brought more of their performance models to North America. I've long harbored a desire to own an R5 Gordini Turbo, but they never sold them here, just the plain 5, badged as the LeCar. I never even knew the Alliance GTA existed.
@tytotheler92
@tytotheler92 9 жыл бұрын
Wait, so Renault sold in the US though AMC? That's neat.
@manthony225
@manthony225 9 жыл бұрын
I feel old.
@nikeadidasdudetx
@nikeadidasdudetx 9 жыл бұрын
tytotheler92 Renault had a controlling interest in AMC for the better part of the 80s until their stake was sold to Chrysler in 1987. Chrysler took over AMC mainly to get its hand on Jeep.
@tytotheler92
@tytotheler92 9 жыл бұрын
nikeadidasdudetx I did not know that. That is very cool.
@marcusdamberger
@marcusdamberger 8 жыл бұрын
After the sale of AMC to Chrysler, Renault quickly exited the U.S. market. I think they were looking for a way out at that point, as AMC became a money pit for Renault and the "Alliance" between the two was not turning out in favor of Renault. All French car makers were gone by the end of the 80's, it was much harder to break into the American market then they thought it would be. The Japanese got it right with reliable fuel efficient cars, and then grow their base from there. Hyandai, followed similar a decade later with cheap fuel efficient cars, albeit with somewhat plstaticky cheap interiors. But now their offerings are as good as any manufacture, with a wide range of vehicles. Maybe if the French had offered far more reliable vehicles at a good price they might have done better. However, their dealer network was limited to AMC and mechanics were just not familiar with their systems, especially the electrical systems.
@stephen10.
@stephen10. 7 жыл бұрын
the best french engineers go to the aeronautic / spatial sector in france. We have not a sucess with our cars but we have a big sucess with our airplanes / helicopters in the world + usa
@wdcegtjdh
@wdcegtjdh 6 жыл бұрын
Does 2018's Renault could have success in usa ?
@tuanh_duong
@tuanh_duong 4 жыл бұрын
Its hard to believe Renault lasted up to '87 😯
@scdevon
@scdevon 3 жыл бұрын
A French POS car built by AMC in Canada. What could go wrong? After AMC failed, I'm sure you could get parts for it at least until 1989 or 1990.
@987WFGR
@987WFGR 3 жыл бұрын
@@scdevon AMC didn't really fail. Renault was saddled with Politics and Debt. Chrysler bought out Renault Shares - and then the rest of the company.
@scdevon
@scdevon 3 жыл бұрын
@@987WFGR These "partnerships" rarely work out. Renault has ruined Nissan now too. Chrysler wrecked Mitsubishi in America with the whole "DiamondStar Motors" nonsense. These low end car companies struggle to even stay alive in North America for good reasons.
@kevinwong6588
@kevinwong6588 3 жыл бұрын
@@scdevon Built in Kenosha, not Brampton.
@brantisonfire
@brantisonfire 9 жыл бұрын
Resembles the E30 to a small degree, actually after watching the whole review, it looks ALOT like the E30 coupe.
@rickslick730
@rickslick730 9 жыл бұрын
Funny you say that! because when I had one some people used to say that it look like a BMW
@josemontano7767
@josemontano7767 4 жыл бұрын
I learn how to drive manual in a Renault. I never seen a GTA but what a pretty car.
@1PotatoeMasher1
@1PotatoeMasher1 2 жыл бұрын
Very handsome and ergonomic car, I like it a lot!
@elizabethcherry920
@elizabethcherry920 3 жыл бұрын
Actually in this case, Alpine tunes the suspension in the Alliance ,but in Europe the R9 has a more powerful Alpine tuned engine
@Rusty0869
@Rusty0869 9 жыл бұрын
Wish I had bought this instead of my '87 Hyundai Excel. I was in highschool and needed something cheap...if I could go back in time.
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials
@GT6SuzukaTimeTrials 9 жыл бұрын
Rusty0869 I bet the Hyundai was more reliable and, at the very least, cheaper to own and maintain. For a high schooler, the Renault would have been a terrible choice.
@Rusty0869
@Rusty0869 9 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Always thought the GTA would be fun around the cones though.
@MaestroTJS
@MaestroTJS 9 жыл бұрын
GT6SuzukaTimeTrials Really hard to say. Hyundais were pretty terrible back then.
@bigphat200
@bigphat200 9 жыл бұрын
Rusty0869 My dad was going to get this but purchased the Merc Lynx instead. I am happy he got that. best car ever. The GTA looks soooooo cool but....well you know.
@chrislemaster2695
@chrislemaster2695 6 жыл бұрын
I would have brought a Dodge Aries K instead more reliably and the K's were built always up until 1996. Dodge Spirit /Plymouth Acclaim were stretched K car
@69tdh
@69tdh 7 жыл бұрын
My uncle got one of these whe they came out. It was black like the one in this video. I loved that car.
@coydog7902
@coydog7902 5 жыл бұрын
Nissan is basically Renault now. For example the rouge is basically a Renault koleos
@SolamenteVees
@SolamenteVees 11 ай бұрын
Picking up that inside rear wheel at 3:17
@01FozzyS
@01FozzyS 9 жыл бұрын
Lol Jensen. Those were the days.
@davidsherrick898
@davidsherrick898 10 ай бұрын
You will never see one on the road in 2024! Unless you're at a car show! Just Rare!
@zythr9999
@zythr9999 3 ай бұрын
Oh well,
@christiancontreras5349
@christiancontreras5349 8 жыл бұрын
How difficult would it be to find one in California
@scdevon
@scdevon 3 жыл бұрын
You don't want to find one of these.
@SextonHardcastle85
@SextonHardcastle85 7 жыл бұрын
I had a white hardtop GTA. I miss that car!
@stephensmith3708
@stephensmith3708 2 жыл бұрын
I miss my GTA 😔. Brought my daughter home in it 😢 😂!
@mrdaykurutakuchannel
@mrdaykurutakuchannel 7 жыл бұрын
I wish in indonesia there's a renault clio in honda fit price n a megane in civic price
@boss12
@boss12 2 жыл бұрын
I like these little things.
@fernandochaves9665
@fernandochaves9665 2 жыл бұрын
Renault 11 turbo: 1.4 liter, 113 cv. Quarter mile 16 secs, 0-60 mph 8,5 secs, top speed 195 km\h. Same engine as the Renault 5 turbo.
@8584zender
@8584zender 5 жыл бұрын
"We don't know what the moniker GTA stands for" Really, you have no idea? VW is selling GTI's faster than they can build them and this is based on the Renault A-lliance platform. And the font of GTA on all the cladding is the same as VW's. Wow 18 second quarter miles. Times have changed.
@lukeskywalker1840
@lukeskywalker1840 7 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a decent pre-owned one of these for years.
@toyoscio
@toyoscio 7 жыл бұрын
LOL, rust has fortunately claimed many of them.
@jayyoutube8790
@jayyoutube8790 7 жыл бұрын
"GTA"? The one thing owners of this contraption don't have to worry about, that's for sure!! 🚗😂
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 9 жыл бұрын
This is a Renault 9 ? :)
@TCAPRecipes
@TCAPRecipes 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@edwu8253
@edwu8253 6 жыл бұрын
I had a green matchbox👍
@MrMenefrego1
@MrMenefrego1 5 жыл бұрын
When was the last time you heard anyone use the term, "Pooped-out"? lol - As an American of Baby Boomer vintage, who lived through the years from the Muscle-Car era to the so called, "Energy Crisis"; that sent Detroit into a tailspin, I'd have to say that it was our bias against French engineering that caused the Alliance venture to fail. It was a mistake. We simply didn't think that the French could do anything except make bad copies of the superior German engineered automobiles. (but neither could "The Big Three") We had the very same problem with Italian cars, which is part of the reason Fiat and Vespa failed in the US market... Back in The Day.
@carlrulli
@carlrulli 9 жыл бұрын
love this car. My dad had one
@griffinsavoy
@griffinsavoy 9 жыл бұрын
I'd love one in all white.
@honestone490
@honestone490 5 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder if the introduction to the Alliance which won "Motor Trends Car of the Year" in 1983 had waited until the GTA model instead was released in 1987 things could have turned out better for the AMC/ Renault merger which we all know failed miserably.
@zythr9999
@zythr9999 3 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter now, since they've probably all gone away.
@alexsimpson715
@alexsimpson715 6 жыл бұрын
Was there a GTA san dears
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