Motoz Tires Desert HTs / Very Narrow Minded Rubber

[@ericcournoyer1595]

Dual sport is poetry. Amazing playground. Thanks for sharing.

[@JohnTYoung]

You’re welcome!

[@jasonscott5043]

Love your back yard! I enjoy this kind of video because it’s like I’m there too. I try to get there a couple times a year and in-between this is my fix. Thank you! Please, more ride alongs like this.

[@JohnTYoung]

You got it. I actually have a drone on order to up (in theory) my travel vlog game.

[@azlong4596]

John you're bouncing around and can't pick a line and where are the AZBDR vids? Thanks for sharing.

[@JohnTYoung]

I mostly took pictures on the AZBDR. Too hot to stop and honestly,... let me rephrase that... I honestly did not want to stop moving unless I was in an air conditioned restaurant, hotel room, or pool. It was the first trip I've ever been on where I didn't camp at all. 110 degrees. I was suffering a little, and my best ideas for video came to me long after the moment had passed. Having said that, Bisbee was beautiful, and I did a little shoot there. The Canyon was amazing as always. The black sands were soooo much fun but soooo tiring. There were a few other spots I'd love to go back to and video... in January.

[@revoltmachine5467]

i’ve run the extreme hybrid on my 690.. very good traction and decent mileage.. the rear was very finicky w/tire pressure. i found 18 psi (less in tough stuff) to be a decent all around pressure.. maybe 20 for extended pavement.. anything more than that was especially sketchy on pavement- compounded by the tall profile which changes bike handling.. i was hoping the rallz would be great. they started off promising but burned up/lost traction quickly, and the front developed a wicked hop unlike anything i’ve ever experienced. so far, my favorite all around tire has been the goldentyre gt723.. exceptional traction everywhere, and great wear. difficult to find sometimes, but the most predictable, balanced tire i’ve come across. i’d definitely recommend giving them a try.

[@JohnTYoung]

I've only got a few miles on the Xtremes so far but yes, they are a little squirmy. We'll see. I leave for the UTBDR next week. Love the Rallzs, but ya, my front tire ended it's life by turning into a kangroo. But before that, I loved them. I will give the Goldentyre a try. My goal is to try every and all dual sport / ADV tires. Thanks for the advice!

[@revoltmachine5467]

John T. Young i’ve tried quite a few.. the gt723 are the only ones that have never tried to kill me! the only tires that never made me think about tires... in a pinch i’d would run d606 or mt21 again if it was mostly off road and mileage wasn’t much of a concern. and for a lot of street and moderate off road, i actually love the dirt cheap shinko 244! most hated tire ever- tkc80. maybe they work better on big bikes, but can’t for the life of me figure out why anyone likes em!

[@JohnTYoung]

@@revoltmachine5467 Well now I'll be sure to make the GT723 my next tire. Or Tyre.

[@revoltmachine5467]

John T. Young ha! definitely curious to hear your take. we all have a bit different riding style, expectations and terrain to contend with. it’s nice to find something that works so we can start obsessing w/ something else. currently that’s my suspension. this one is gonna be expensive!

[@JohnTYoung]

@@revoltmachine5467 Now if I can just find one...

[@blooskyy7]

Amazing back yard, thanks for sharing, found the sights and info very interesting.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks for watching Blue Sky. I've never been much of a Vlogger, but maybe I should start.

[@scottasimont1690]

Thanks for the tire review and tour of the Aspen area! Currently running Maxxis Desert ITs. Ran them in Baja with one flat in 1300 miles. Looking for something that’ll handle Eastern Sierra pumice. Will give the Motoz a look.

[@JohnTYoung]

And I'll give the Maxxis a look Scott. Thanks for the advice, and for watching.

[@soloadvtravel]

Hey John, thanks for the reviews and beautiful views! Wanted to ask your opinion on riding the RallyZ on my BMW 1250 GSA up and down Baja…. Ton of sand, quite a bit of tarmac and some wet stuff. I like the longevity as well as the hard walls (against punctures) My trip will be around 4/5K..Thanks and keep those videos coming!

[@JohnTYoung]

I think it’s a great tire on any bike. It will probably work even better on your heavier moto. Thanks for watching!

[@loolbecoolify]

Thanks for the review i just order the TRACTIONATOR DESERT H/T but I think nothing beats maxxis desert it used to buy them from local shop but now i can't find them

[@JohnTYoung]

I hope you like them

[@artfulalias3984]

I have good luck with the mountain hybrids on decomposed granite fire roads and trails. They are good on pavement. Incredible traction climbing in rock and hard pack, even when topped with dust and some gravel. Perfect for the road in this video. They don't dig in loam like a knobby. So aggressive dirt riders may not love them. They don't paddle in sand and mud. They will float OK at lower pressures, with good throttle control.. And they clear mud decently from the tread. So they will get through soft sections. But they don't excel there. Good tread life. Good for dual sport. Its very important to get the pressure right. I run the rear 0 to 8 PSI on a 500 Beta with Tubliss. Maybe 10 PSI on the highway. I imagine the extremes will be a little more aggressive in softer terrain at the expense of tread life.

[@JohnTYoung]

I liked them too for the reasons you stated.

[@michaelruss2513]

I hoping to ride there next year. What a view WOW

[@JohnTYoung]

Gotta love the Rockys! Thanks for watching.

[@ShadowVonChadwick]

Loved the geography, keep it coming.

[@JohnTYoung]

I will/did!

[@geoffhowse3591]

Nice backyard, John :)

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks! It's pretty, but it's buried in snow 8 months out of the year.

[@parkerzayden7689]

You prolly dont care but if you are stoned like me during the covid times you can stream pretty much all the new series on Instaflixxer. Have been watching with my brother for the last few weeks :)

[@kasonriver6071]

@Parker Zayden Yup, I have been watching on Instaflixxer for since december myself =)

[@crashdsnowman1]

Great first hand info and truth instead of what you get from a tire salesman.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks

[@JohnTYoung]

Ralwzs??

[@bobsmyth6706]

Love the road. Beautiful country. Good chart @ Adventure Spec. Cheers

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Bob!

[@bobsmyth6706]

@@JohnTYoung did you get a pair of mm woodsman Enduro? I bought solid brown colour, love the material choices and ventilation zippers. Be well. Cheers

[@JohnTYoung]

@@bobsmyth6706 They should be here Tuesday. Ya, I love the look and materials. I have a 2 pair of ArcTeryx soft shell pants that I love and wear everywhere, and the Woodsman has the same style. I too, got the solid brown. I wanted to like the black and brown ones, but just couldn't.

[@bobsmyth6706]

@@JohnTYoung cool. Let me know how they fit, mine have lots of room - I could go down one size. Cheers

[@JohnTYoung]

Oh no. I had the Baslisk Pants in a 30, which were tight on me. I hope these fit.

[@MeerkatADV]

Dango Gripper for the chin mount? I keep looking at those but not sure if it would hit my neck brace.

[@JohnTYoung]

It probably will. It hits my chest protector if I look down too far.

[@MeerkatADV]

@@JohnTYoung Nice either way, hope you had fun on the AZBDR. I had a blast back in May. Working on vids from that now.

[@MeerkatADV]

@@JohnTYoung why not the RALLZ again? You seemed to like those.

[@JohnTYoung]

@@MeerkatADV I love them! But if I didn't try the Desert HTs out, how would I know how good the Rallzs really are? I have the Xtreme Hybrids on the bike now for the UTBDR next week.

[@JohnTYoung]

@@MeerkatADV HOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[@LEEGOOVER9901]

wow the video are crystal clear, what actiion camera you are using sir?

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks. I switched from a Hero 7 to a Hero 8 and upload larger files. I'm glad it's working.

[@LEEGOOVER9901]

@@JohnTYoung haha, well hopefullyit would stay as it is now, that beautiful loads of view, keep the education running sir!

[@JohnTYoung]

Will do!

[@LEEGOOVER9901]

@@JohnTYoung btw where do you stick the mount to, is it chin or cheek?

[@JohnTYoung]

@@LEEGOOVER9901 It grips the chin bar like a clothes pin. Super solid

[@Sk8ter-Dad]

Hey John Im currently running the Motoz Tractionator Enduro I/T's but I'm realizing that they are very loud on the highway. The front is good but the rear just howls. Ive tried D606 and Mt21 rear and they were both better on road. I'd like to try something different on the rear, have you tried the mountain hybrid ? How does it compare to the RallZ?

[@JohnTYoung]

There's a great chart on Adventure Spec on what each tire is good or OK for that I've found very accurate. There's no magic formula, the more rubber and less space between the knobs, the better for the road, worse for the dirt, and quieter. I really like the Mountain Hybrid for all things hard - roads, hard packed dirt, rocks. The RallZ is better in the dirt and gravel but is a decent road tire. Both last a long time. I know you want it all but the perfect unicorn tire does not exist. Pick the terrain you NEED it to work in (dirt for me) and how long you need it to last for (1,000 or so miles) and go from there.

[@Sk8ter-Dad]

@@JohnTYoung yeah I think I'm leaning towards the Rallz as it can get pretty wet and loamy here in BC. In one ride I'll see everything from road, rocks, sand, mud, water crossings and dirt. You should try the Enduro I/T up front I think you'd really like it! I've heard lots of people running it with the Rallz or desert HT in the back. Thanks

[@jdavishornet]

Hey John. Love your channel. What an unbelievable resource you are for dual sport riders. And especially for crf450l riders. Honda should give you a new bike every few years for the work you are doing for us and for them. There has to be a lot of people who went red after watching your channel and also realizing how much how to info and help you provide for the community. Thanks. Now a quick question. What tire setup do you recommend for north East Riding?

[@JohnTYoung]

Thanks Jamie. It's not so much about the "North East" as it is about what you're planning to ride on - dirt single track, pavement, rocks and roots, gravel roads, etc... And them how much is going to be dirt and how much road. That's a lot of stuff to take into consideration before you even get to "which tire". So not knowing anything about any of that I can't even begin to recommend a tire. In general, the farther apart the knobs, the better the tire does in loose conditions, the worse it will do on the road, and the faster it will wear out.

[@jdavishornet]

@@JohnTYoung thanks for replying. I plan on riding 90 10 off road to road. But there is not really a lot of sandy type of terrain in north east that I’m aware of. Thinking a lot of rocky muddy sloppy stuff. Mostly damp woods riding I’d think. Guess I won’t be sure till I get out there. Was thinking tractionator desert at first but now not so sure after watching your video on that one. Thanks again.

[@JohnTYoung]

@@jdavishornet I wouldn't use the Desert HT anywhere but in the desert. The rubber does not like wet anything. If you're 90 off road and don't care about road noise the Enduro IT is a great tire.

[@DSLRvideonow]

If it's wet out, you poop your pants... lol nice John

[@JohnTYoung]

Just a little.

[@dchristiansen8714]

Wow that's soo cool. I have the 2019 tacoma (cement) & 2019 CRF 450!! I'm just starting to mode my bike it's still stock.

[@JohnTYoung]

Twinsies!

[@dchristiansen8714]

@@JohnTYoung woo hoo!! Great videos informative and entertaining look forward to more. I'm in southern UT. so it's to hot right now but come Sept. I will be going on some quality rides!!

[@scottasimont1690]

Vortex ECU!

[@JohnTYoung]

Yup. Step 1

[@taylorc4476]

Great ride in EPIC country, man. Curious what kind of pressures you ran in those tires? I thought they looked pretty good at 1200 miles with 500+ highway, but maybe my expectations are lower. Great vlogs, man. Keep it up!

[@JohnTYoung]

They still have life in them, but I have a 1000 plus trip, and they don't have enough life to go that far. I ran between 12 and 20 psi depending on terrain. Thanks for watching!

[@olivierle1351]

whaooo so beautiful

[@JohnTYoung]

Thank you

[@CallUrDrop]

Not really sure you ride hard enough to determine the limits of this tire. Thought you were riding like this for the purpose of this video but I watched your other videos and yeah your bike is capable of so much more. I suspect the tires are also. I appreciate your effort putting this video together though.

[@JohnTYoung]

I dunno. Thought 2000 miles was plenty. Thanks for watching!

[@retrievalnow4972]

Such a Great nature, such a good bike, such a cool man.

[@JohnTYoung]

Thank you!

[@matthewbutcher203]

So we are all going to casually gloss over the killer tracked "?" And the gmt 400 Tahoe on Matt Trax...? Just randomly parked by the road!

[@JohnTYoung]

It’s Aspen - There’s all kinds of crazy going on out here.

[@ADVRally]

I run these tires on my rally although I switched the rear after 3,000 miles and went to a MotoZ enduro gummy with a TUBLISS set up. Its amazing. The front tire is still great 3,800 in . I run them through everything.

[@JohnTYoung]

Ya, I burn up tires with too many road miles to get to the dirt miles. I tried, and failed, to like TUBliss for my ADV setup. Maybe if I got another set of wheels for off road only trips. Thanks for watching!

[@mikebike626]

sounds to me like you need to get off your bike and away from your computer-- and do some cardio. For a young man you're huffing a good bit. :D

[@JohnTYoung]

LOL. Maybe I just to move the mic from directly in front of my mouth. Or do cardio. ;)