MOUNTAIN BIKE DROPS WITH LIPS | Over-40 MTB Skills

"MOUNTAIN BIKE DROPS WITH LIPS" was inspired by subscribers who wanted tips on the dreaded drop with a lip. A common style of drop it is important to realize that it has more in common with a jump than a drop.
I'm joined by again by the man who literally wrote the book on mountain biking, Lee from Lee Likes Bikes.
This video is a follow up to our earlier video on the unified theory of mountain bike drops, "MOUNTAIN BIKE DROPS FOR BEGINNERS. DON'T MANUAL OFF DROPS!" and our second drops video "OVER 40 MOUNTAIN BIKE TIPS: DROP PHYSICS" We recommend that you watch both and have mastery of both these drop techniques as well as comfort with small jumps. Our beginner jump "HOW TO JUMP A MOUNTAIN BIKE" is a good place to start.
There is nothing that changes about the physics of riding a bike if you're over 40 or any age for that matter. But we find that riders over 40 tend to be more careful and thoughtful about their riding. And a more analytical approach to the how and why of mountain biking builds confidence when crashing is NOT an option.
If you're younger but appreciate the approach we are glad to have you on the journey with us.
After you've mastered both of the former drop methods from our other drop videos. This video gives a mountain biker the methodology, awareness, and skills to ride your mountain bike off more complicated take offs like the drop with a lip, kicker, etc.
Hitting a drop with a lip on your mountain bike will become second nature with just a little bit of practice.
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0:00 INTRO
1:28 WHEN A DROP IS A JUMP
2:07 SKILLS NEEDED
2:36 GHOST RIDES
3:57 DROP VISION
5:07 TIME TO DROP
6:26 BREAKDOWN
6:53 THINK THEN DO
8:04 MTB IS MORE THAN MTB
10:18 LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE!
Check out Lee and get some coaching at leelikesbikes.com

[@revrof]

Only just discovered you guys on youtube. This is such awesome content! Bringing it right back to the basics, clearly explaining the stuff I kinda know, but don't really know.

[@JoyOfBike]

Welcome aboard!

[@allanridesbikes5856]

You're in for a treat!

[@denniskane9651]

Best explanation of this channel! “Clearly explaining stuff I kinda know but don’t really know!” I totally agree- I know I have experienced the way to do these techniques in isolation and quite frankly by accident. Now I find by knowing the technique I can proactively strive for it and practice it.

[@nl3712]

Me too, this channel is the business!

[@markmccall6273]

"Your personality comes out in the next layer"… Love that thinking. Makes complete sense.

[@davehumpleby3440]

Biking zen from the masters. Love it.

[@donnbialik9085]

Waiting for the "Namastoke" tshirts……..I'm patient.

[@lee_likes_bikes]

YES! I have some designs done and ready. Stay tuned.

[@allanridesbikes5856]

Above the chainstay is the seatstay. Above the seatstay is namaste. 🙏🤙

[@JoyOfBike]

Love that!!!

[@lee_likes_bikes]

HA HA SO GOOD!

[@jamisonr]

Thanks guys, I'm 48 and just getting back into mountain biking after a ~17 year hiatus, and these videos help me understand that I'm not "too old to learn"

[@MarathonMindy]

45 here and same thing …. Been years and love it.

[@airliftpilot]

Lee is like a sensei master of bikes. Alex is the poet laureate of bikes. The combo is glorious...

[@JoyOfBike]

Kind words like this make it a lot easier to shoot and edit next weeks episode. : )

[@dirtsurfernz]

Was waiting for someone to launch off drop behind and get a fright seeing you two sitting there 😂

[@JoyOfBike]

The funny thing is nobody hits it. We were joking that we could set out a picnic ON IT and nobody will care!!! It sorta cuts the turn a little tight too.

[@dirtsurfernz]

@@JoyOfBike lol. I like to imagine I would try.... From the safety of the other side of the world 😜

[@nl3712]

This is, somehow, the FUNNIEST and most instructional mtb vid I’ve ever watched (and I’ve watched a few 100). Thanks for this quality vid 👌👌👌

[@JoyOfBike]

Wow, thanks!

[@AlexPTwigg-ql3ci]

The two of you are a beautiful combo, and I 100% agree that the best coaches of anything are the ones that had to really work to gain their skills. So glad I found your channel.

[@JoyOfBike]

Wow, thank you!

[@mtbandenath]

The best part is how you guys always include mindfulness and doing something with complete purpose. As Alex said it's about finding the truths. That total clicks with me. Again you guys keep delivering exceptional content.

[@JoyOfBike]

So happy to hear that it resonates. When you love bikes like we do the appreciation gets pretty deep and it's cool to know people are feeling the same things we are.

[@mtbandenath]

@@JoyOfBike totally agree, this kind of stuff is what makes the MTB community grow and stay rad!

[@RyannMade]

That point about focused vs peripheral vision is huge! It comes up in every part of riding. Your focused/central vision determines the strategy of your riding (eg. proactive, line choice, risk assessment) but your your peripheral vision determines the tactics of your riding (eg. reactive, line execution). Getting things from that conscious mode to become automatic is all about spending time on your bike. Good coaching, high discipline, etc can help avoid memorizing mistakes and that can help save some time, but in the end only time can build the necessary muscle memory to ride without thinking - and when it happens it is so awesome.

[@JoyOfBike]

So true. And we don't realize how small that central vision region is. Try to read this while moving your eyes two inches to the left. Ha. But that fidelity comes at a cost in processing speed. The periphery is designed to identify threats and respond in real time. Pretty cool stuff.

[@nickdellar3468]

Why do I cry every time I watch these breakthrough videos???😩😭

[@lee_likes_bikes]

You're not the only one crying!!

[@stevendanielson8104]

I’m 49 yrs old, played multiple sports and done all kinds of potentially dangerous outdoor activities (Mtn biking, rappelling, rock climbing, etc) and your advice about the zoom focus is spot on! First time I’ve heard anyone describe it (ever) - sage advice for anyone. One needs to be aware but NOT hyper focused on the obstacle or feature. Well done guys!!!

[@JoyOfBike]

Thanks brother!!

[@joeshawcroft7121]

I'm new to this channel and just need to say that I love every video I've watched (a lot) and I wish you guys were still putting out regular content. I hope to see you back soon but if not, thanks for all your contributions!

[@FlowConsciously]

"finding those truths, through riding bikes" You two are too much! Perfection!

[@JoyOfBike]

Appreciate you.

[@thee173t]

More great wisdom from my our biking Jedi! If you guys ever make a jersey i'll buy it day one for sure.

[@yorgosk2938]

I've said it before, and I will say it again, the Chemistry and vibes between you too are amazing. Your videos are not only a joy of bike but a joy to watch too. I wish I had the opportunity to be trained irl by Lee. If you ever find your way to the north of Britain please let me know :-D

[@denniskane9651]

Consider remote coaching- I just bought a pack and although only 1 lesson in I carried what I learned into my next ride. It works- Lee is really good at making it meaningful for what you need in manageable bites.

[@tacconelli]

I love how deep you guys take the mentality (or non-mentality) of riding. I don't even own a MTB yet, but it applies to a lot of the riding I do on my drop bar bike on and off-road.

[@gyorgytakacs6884]

It always strikes me how deeply human the wisdom is which isn't necessarily the one concerns riding the bike. It's almost more important for me than the technical knowledge itself. Two Buddhist Bikers! Cheers from Budapest/Hungary.

[@JoyOfBike]

Yes! The two go together like making the tea and drinking the tea.

[@waterdog4191]

Very informative and funny. “...full ass, correction, full yes” 😂

[@davidwright8932]

When you guys talked about using bike riding as a way to "express yourself" it really struck a chord with me. After about a decade off of bikes I realized that I had been missing the expression of riding in my life. Love the exploration and perspectives you guys put into these videos.

[@davidplourde8688]

You guys make the best technique videos. The explaination of the physics AND how to handle it is excellent. Best instruction!

[@beardedmtb]

You got me at 'Don't do it' to be honest. So few videos make this point so clearly when it comes to learning skills - I'm not ready and you told me how to tell I'm not ready. Thankyou, probably saved my face.

[@unkle-user]

As always-just what we need, спасибо!

[@josedp]

THE JOY of watching your videos 😀

[@seansmith174]

I’m so stoked to get above the think about it level to the personality level!! Thanks for another great video

[@nikolaibohachevsky2301]

Shredding, in whatever form you dig, is beautiful. Thanks again fellas!

[@JoyOfBike]

Our pleasure!

[@Joshshimchick]

These videos never fail to get me pumped to get out on the trail. 🙏

[@pierreblanchette6026]

Thanks for this. I think this will help my mindset on the next ride. Insightful video. 👍

[@higherpurposemtbiking3043]

Whoa! Looking for ‘Truths’... and THAT leads to better Mtn biking and life. You dudes are speaking with wisdom. Sweet!

[@JeremyRabbit]

You guys make such fun and value-packed videos. Jabs enjoyed every one!

[@JoyOfBike]

So glad!

[@Antjan46]

I’m so grateful for this channel! Thanks guy’s!

[@airDvans]

Thanks guys, realy love the philosophical talk at the end!!! If you are ever in The Netherlands, please ride with me and my friends!!

[@TheSd1cko]

Couldn't agree more. I know from riding motorcycles that target fixation is one of the greatest causes of accidents the don't involve other vehicles. I'm 39 and just getting back into MTB for the first time since I was a teenager and as soon as I notice I'm doing the target fixation thing, I have my motorcycle instincts to snap out of it as soon as I realise I'm doing it. But I take this as a warning that I'm pushing too fast.

[@DrewJ79]

I love the way you guys explain everything. I'm 41, just bought the new Canyon stoic 4, and I'm just getting back into MTB after 20 years being off of the trails. I really appreciate your intelligence and way of thinking. Anytime I watch your videos you make me want to go and practice every little detail of my riding. Hopefully I'll get the courage to start doing some drops soon, they look like so much fun.

[@JoyOfBike]

Wonderful. Take your time. Build up slowly on a solid foundation and it will pay off later.

[@dougadams4540]

This is my new favorite MTB channel. Thanks for the great work guys.

[@JoyOfBike]

Wow, thanks!

[@colinberry276]

Love the overall attitude you and Mike bring. Super positive. I’ve been watching several jumping, drop, techy climb stuff and one thing clicks in my head now, and that’s been repeated in couple places, is staying centered front to rear. Fear, and understanding, happens in the head and finding the right idea is key. Then as you say, it’s about shutting thoughts down...once you repeat things enough. Progress! That’s all anyone could want. Thanks!

[@JoyOfBike]

That’s the formula!!!

[@colinberry276]

Oops, Lee!...not Mike. Sorry. Where did I get Mike I don’t know.

[@matt_m126]

Love this and your channel. Thanks guys!

[@robinwalker5830]

This is great stuff Alex and Lee! I love the bonus "tunnel vision versus wide angle" piece. One of my local trails has an adjustable-height drop to practice on, and levels one and two are actually drops (level take off), but levels 3-5 go up at the take off and turn it into a jump, which always feels sketchy (and I see lots of people go off it in ways that look dangerous). This really helps.

[@JoyOfBike]

Yeah these features are not that unusual. Glad it helped!

[@fouglasdir]

True story what you say! Love it.

[@dominicstockton7102]

Found your channel last week... massively inspired to try a new way of riding, i took my new pumpin' hinge with me to one of the world's first trail centres in Wales (Coed y Brenin) and scored 32 new PRs out of 36 segments on Strava. Thank you fellas, you're absolute legends in my world now. Namastoke indeed!

[@lee_likes_bikes]

YES!!!

[@time2play_outdoors]

Only in MTBing can you yell “You’re out of your mind!” and have it be a high compliment.

[@MrDistill]

Another great video. Anyone else sad for the 3 to 7 guys always thumbs downing this channel. They must need so serious hug’s.

[@Jesusprayerwarriorbw]

Soo good! Cant wait for my dirt jumper! Hit 50 this yr already been athletic now the fear is gone and having proper technique explained is going to send me sky high and loving life even more. Thx for stoke!

[@JoyOfBike]

Feeling the stoke from here!!!

[@manumartinez3461]

Lee is our master! Magnificent explanation

[@JoyOfBike]

We agree!

[@gaborhavasi7196]

Another great video. Thank you guys!

[@MarathonMindy]

Finding those truths through riding a bike….. that’s so Bruce Lee

[@dewindoethdwl2798]

Great video, love the explanation and the discussion of how well learned & internalised process then turns into play & steez. I’m off out to practice 👍

[@rpark44]

Killing it fellas...great stuff as usual!

[@ianbarraclough7523]

Love your channel & style you have really fired me up to learn new skills at 56. Keep it going guys you rock 👍🤩

[@j.l.5966]

4:41 gave me the heebie jeebies of just how terrifying that drop would feel

[@pauls3616]

I have small drop of about 3’ with a nice lip on it and I have been getting too much weight on the rear wheel and it does hang up. Not enough to launch me OTB but enough to cause concern. I will try it more as a jump. It is easy to see what is happening to the front wheel watching you guys hit it. Great video as usual and as many have said you guys just click when together. Thank you.

[@travelthenarrowtrail8660]

Another very informative video here, love the instruction, thank you.

[@wavedave9503]

Great advice as always😉 Thankyou!🙏

[@robsindik]

I love you guys! So much information and stoke! I’ve only recently discovered your channel but I know that you’ve made me a better rider. Thanks and keep up the great work.

[@JoyOfBike]

Welcome aboard!

[@reneh.6551]

Love the music you use in all of your videos... so vibey... 😎🌻🤙

[@WanderlyRamirez]

it is a joy to watch your vids... it doesnt matter how many times... I love the chem you guys have and the way you both address the mind and the tension and how to ease it... !

[@JoyOfBike]

We love it every bit of it!!!

[@graemewood1216]

Very entertaining Alex and Lee, keep up the good work! Awesome channel guys

[@time2play_outdoors]

Great stuff! One personal cue I use for the conscious vs. unconscious state of mind for drops: if I do a brake check on the run in, I’m not ready.

[@lee_likes_bikes]

Good one.

[@trialsrob214]

So I’ve been thinking about this for a long time. When I was younger and racing Mx I was at the point of doing and not really thinking and when I ride Mtb all I do is think. And mainly about how I’m really not in tune with the bike and constantly trying to learn what to do with the bike. My personality doesn’t come through at all. I’ve got no Mtb style. But with knowledge and desire comes change, thanks guys

[@SnakeC666]

Gereat tutorial guys, thanks ❤️

[@superawesomefuntimego]

Good content guys! Thanks! I almost got caught out by one of these darn drops with a lip a couple weeks ago, landed a bit nose heavy because I treated it like a normal drop.

[@JoyOfBike]

Oh no! Glad you managed it!

[@servidig483]

Editing and video structure is getting better and better, easier to understand the lesson, great job

[@pepeinmex]

Drops are complicated and the videos are good so this 4th video is so cool, shout out Lee as I learned today that is not a drop but a stepdown, that learning for my old brain works. Time now to grab the bike and practice again...

[@JoyOfBike]

Congrats on the manual machine buddy!!

[@pepeinmex]

@@JoyOfBike gracias Alex can’t wait for it and will share a video and some pictures once is in Mexico!

[@ag5urfer]

My favourite day of the week cause its.. NBD! new bideo day🤣

[@aquaholich2051]

Good chemistry Great content, Easily digestable. At 39 Only got into mtb this year and you guys are really helping my learning curve, understandling the mechanics 👌👍

[@JoyOfBike]

Great to hear!

[@BentonvilleMTB]

Hey man you always give me lots of things to think about and apply, not just to my riding but to everything I do in life. I want to say the high-definition in color made it much easier to see the subtle beginnings and endings of movements and body weight shifting. Come to Bentonville for outerbike I'll Stand you a beer

[@vladimirbarkhatov]

I was waiting for this video!!! Great effort, and well explained. Thank you! Makes sense

[@JoyOfBike]

You are welcome!

[@Iamgavrilo]

Great as always!

[@JoyOfBike]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@zomambik]

Every time I watch your videos I either realize or learn something new. And often it's not the specifics of technique ( it's all great stuff but usually things I know already) but rather the mental aspect of riding or even making progress / overcome an obstacle in life in general. In this video it's the "tunnel vision" thing. I was practicing bunny hops yesterday and was trying to go significantly higher. It wasn't happening. Until I examined my field of vision and noticed it was indeed tunnel-like. Then I did my best at softening my gaze, stay loose and boom - started clearing it! So looks like there may be two approaches to this tunnel vision phenomenon - if you can't make it go away, skip this obstacle this time. But if you can relax and widen the scope - go for it. As usual, apologies for a long ass comment. Who has time to read such essays in the age of Twitter... :-)

[@JoyOfBike]

If you can make it go away it is a sign you're good to go. Congrats!!

[@LuisBarreras21]

Great video

[@idhvew8]

You guys rock! Love the content and delivery.

[@JoyOfBike]

Thanks so much!

[@MrCjrodriguez]

I love this video and I love this channel!

[@damiengreen5978]

Awesome video! you guys are the only one's who seem to explain technique in a natural, understandable way. I was wondering could you do a video on Drop-offs that are on a downslope as well? IE drop-offs on a step downhill descent? Cheers

[@menemismix]

Totally did not see that coming I’m Batman This channel is gold

[@JoyOfBike]

Thanks Mike!

[@bermchasin]

a lot of good wisdom in this video!

[@alfreedman0]

such a good video guys thanks

[@tracyoliver5525]

You guys are like the mtb odd couple, love it!!

[@JoyOfBike]

So funny you say this. Yesterday I wrote down a show idea titled Odd Couple. I don't know what it is about but it's pretty accurate.

[@lee_likes_bikes]

I love it too! We have such different styles, but I so enjoy riding in this guy's Wake of Joy.

[@thejenster7890]

Namastoked, good one!!

[@markhardegon]

And another great chilled video that makes you nod your head and say yes ok I see that So thanks guys keep it up I'm always learning 🤟

[@JoyOfBike]

Appreciate you Mark!! Stay shreddy!

[@nicoinghilleri8149]

Love your commentary on style, total brain blast! 🧠💥

[@JoyOfBike]

Thank you kindly

[@thehumbletrail2816]

You did it again guys! "content awesome this is"

[@SolMotiv]

Best drop video yet. Nice work y’all! Keep it up.

[@JoyOfBike]

Appreciate it!

[@barryray275]

Wow, what a magical vid.

[@adijay9760]

Best episode

[@JoyOfBike]

Thanks

[@rigelsan9744]

I’m a martial artist of the Way of the Gnar. You guys rock! Thanks for enlightening me.

[@JoyOfBike]

YES! I love the way of the Gnar.

[@richieclarkie]

I clicked the bell.. I got the notification ... it worked :) Then I'm rewarded with your amazing content and editing. Thank you once again for your videos Alex :)

[@JoyOfBike]

Love it when a plan comes together!!

[@RydenDirty]

Well done gentleman

[@beardedvikingmtber]

love the energy of your vids guys, wish I could show that much skill in my vids. quality content lads

[@JoyOfBike]

Much appreciated!

[@kerryrobbert7493]

Great content, as always, especially the 'Zen' stuff. I should mention, too, that I dig the production of these vids. Makes them just that much more fun. Not that you needed that, or anything, just that it's fun... I like fun... I like fun MTBing... I like fun videos about intrinsically motivated MTB skill progression, with a Zen-like twist... It helps me have more fun, not just on the bike, but in life, too. That's next-next level sh*t.

[@JoyOfBike]

Really appreciate the comment. We're still finding our legs in this whole KZbin world but that is exactly what riding is for me. Fun and progression with friends.

[@AdrenalineIsLife]

Love the depth of thought on this stuff! That's a wisdom that comes with age and experience. 🙏

[@JoyOfBike]

I appreciate that!

[@lee_likes_bikes]

Thank you!!

[@timvoss612]

As I listened your the intro I immediately thought of Eugen Herrigel's Zen in the Art of Archery...and then you used it! It doesn't need to be all spiritual, but Bikes happen to be our (joyous!) "means" of...being in the moment. Continue to explore the fourth dimension of this wonderful pursuit which is both exquisitely pointless and everything. Your videos continue to break new ground...(and, as ever, superb editing)... Onwards and upwards Tim Voss (Brighton Pump Track South Australia)

[@lee_likes_bikes]

Thank you Tim!!

[@denzilbart5882]

Awesome video. It's just not the content but the holistic approach to riding, because it's not really about riding but about overcoming obstacles and attaining a state of Flow. The riding then follows the Flow.

[@JoyOfBike]

You're so right. Ironically, making videos can be an obstacle to that goal but overcoming that obstacle is just like any other.

[@lee_likes_bikes]

Thank you so much!!

[@mtbbatmann700]

Love ur feed. I learn a lot. Now to apply on the trail for me, different story 😬😝😆

[@JoyOfBike]

You got this!

[@mtbbatmann700]

@@JoyOfBike 😝😝😝

[@michaelmann3636]

Miss you guys❗️👍

[@lynxg4641]

Another good vid guys, taking it to the basics and explaining concisely. Also appreciated the little tid bit on coaches and who the vast majority of them normally are - you don't have to be the greatest at something to be able to analyze and explain what should be done to someone, or what they're doing wrong - wish people understood this fact.

[@JoyOfBike]

Thanks for that!

[@MTBZenMaster]

Guru Alex! This video worked on sooo many levels. I can see the reflection of your experience and wisdom. From the gameshow to the archery (yeah you making some of us feel old since many didnt growup watching game shows😊😂). All culminating into useful mtb educational and inspiring content. Bravo sir! 😎👍🏾now i need to go practice what i learned.

[@JoyOfBike]

Oh man. I can’t help but put myself into it and myself is 57!! Stoked you enjoyed it. More Zen in MTB and in all things!!

[@markmckenney4534]

I’m wondering right now, just how many coaches are out there watching this one...hmmmm...another full flex delivery, touching even upon the quantum experience of Flow State. Was just wondering when Y’all were going to pull this from the quiver 🤣 (you know, in the video) because ya know we were waiting, right!? Fa Reelz, great to see how this technique would be coached, fantastico ✊Great vid guys! From the Mountain Bike Capital of the world North West Arkansas, I’m even starting to believe it after getting a healthy dose of the next batch of 3 small mountains in a row, each with its own hub with multiple lines...not officially open...called Keystone. What we lack in pure elevation, we make up for in volume and diversity, honest to god, you can’t keep up with it...it’s truly unbelievable...you need to stay for a month or even a season, just to take it all in! Y’all are welcome anytime. Flow State Baby

[@lee_likes_bikes]

Thank you Mark!! If you keep an eye on the other channels, you'll soon see this topic.

[@rubberside3969]

Namastoke !? I love it !!!