Mountain Men, Cowboys and Houndsmen in Ben Lilly's old stomping grounds

I got the chance to go visit and record Roland Rice, Jim Gierhart and Kenneth Brown. All houndsmen and cowboys from South West New Mexico in the Gila... Ben Lilly's stomping ground. I really enjoyed listening to their stories. Hounds, Mules and Lion Hunting. They talked about Ben Lilly the Lee Brothers and many more.

[@timcook874]

I could sit and listen to these guys for hours. Thanks for doing this Brett

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Me and you both ... your welcome and thanks for watching Tim!

[@EmmettHenderson-hf1zm]

Yes me too I started out at about 10 yrs old hunting with guys like that, I'm so thankful they were willing to take a kid like me and of course they got be addicted to it lol and the only thing that has stayed with me throughout life was my dogs and hunting. I don't understand how guys could actually quit hunting I would be dead in no time if I quit.

[@lonetreeleather]

This session was sure good for my soul. . . . these three ol boys are birds of my feather. The old gentleman on the left reminded my so much of my Grand dad.... Just pure salt of the earth men of the old breed. I was struck by the part of the conversation where they were discussing the sad state of the deer population. I was so amazed that they all said the same things I've been saying for many years about the decimation of our mule deer herds and the reasons for it. I live now where I grew up and back in the 50's and 60's there were thousands and thousands of mule deer in these mountains. You could go for a drive in mountains and see 500 - 750 mule deer in an afternoon and now you drive that same country and you are lucky to see 3 or 4 mule deer. Three years ago the Fish and Game changed the deer season from bucks only to "any" deer. Still selling the same amount of tags . . . . like they said, revenue is the priority. Tragic ..... our Fish and Game have managed the deer into extinction

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Thank you ..I hear you ... I know something should be done about the way things are managed not sure what the answer is ..I do enjoy talking to those guys

[@randyhensley150]

I really enjoy these interviews and storytelling sessions. Men like these and yourself are treasures, them and their stories need to be preserved. Thank you for doing it. In a couple of days my Dad would have been 114, I would give anything to have recorded the stories him and his siblings told. They grew and lived in harder and wilder times, (I would say better times). Thank you again.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Very true .. I have to go and record my dad .. he is 86 .. not a Houndsman but a lifelong horseman .. has rode and trained cutting horses all my life and like you said was raised in tougher times .. thanks Randy !

[@SonnyPassmore]

I just run across your channels about three weeks ago. Been kinda binge watching them along with rez hounds and anecdote Chris's videos ever since. Good group of genuine guys. Thanks for your work capturing these great houndsman for the future generations. Gosh this interview is so entertaining. Absolutely hilarious.

[@Starlinsoriginalmountaincurs]

Man hearing you guys reminds me of my gramps and his buddies that took me hunting as a boy. We was coon hunters. Well i had dreams of lions and married a gal from here. Im just north of you a ways. No cats yet but my dogs are on their way. Im more old school. I have no horse or quad. Just me my dogs and my own 2 feet. Im self taught and has taken a while but if luck will have it we will have our first lion before the winter is out. You guys was a joy to listen to and im sure you have alot more stories and knowledge than what you had time to share here. I salute all you men and hope there are more young guys like me to carry the torch. Like yall say my first hunt i was ruined as well. I live for it. New mexico really is a place like no other.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Thanks .. yes these guys were a lot fun to talk to .. I have more on the Double U Hunting supply podcast also over on my other channel Interviews, Stories and Tails .. good luck and stay after it

[@Starlinsoriginalmountaincurs]

@@BrettVaughnB100 oh i will and ill be watching more of your stuff. I hunt a different breed. But thats another convo lol. Just getting started i put some video up of them. Even days im not hunting i find myself in places like this dreaming of the next chase.

[@highcountrystories]

Good to see Kenneth and Rawlin!! Went to school with their kids!! :) Grew up in Greenwood near the Thompson's. So cool to hear all the old local names!!

[@billyjolly3315]

Brett really enjoy your videos, I've had hounds my whole life here in east Texas. I love hearing all the old stories, the good ole days. These tree climbers have took all the hunting out of hunting. I'm like you , it's not about the kill

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Thank you .. no really for me it is all about the adventure and the hounds ..

[@wb7sff]

Sure enjoyed all of the stories !!

[@mercedithcompala8148]

Sure enjoyed all the stories Thanks

[@BrettVaughnB100]

You bet .. Thank you

[@brendachilders8075]

Such wonderful fellowship amongst hunters… ty for sharing! Laughed all night 🤣 boom boom boom….

[@janiespurrier1555]

Love the conversation! Good idea to put headsets on those guys. It sure made it easier for them to hear and have a steady conversation. Smart

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Yes they were fun to talk too .. thanks

[@hillbillynick2000]

Took me a while to work through this one but dang, it’s worth it! I enjoy all of the interviews but this one is double good. You’re preforming an important service doing these.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Thank you Nick I do enjoy doing it .. oh and your other cup is on the way

[@hillbillynick2000]

@@BrettVaughnB100 thanks! Both for the videos and the replacement cup. I swear the post office employs gorillas now

[@charleywalker2982]

After watching these videos I feel like I was born 100 years to late!!! Most of the old houndsmen around here were old fox and coyote hunters and I am lucky to have known them and hunted with them. I can picture what a video like this would of been if someone would of interviewed them. Thanks again.

[@phillipmortensen7578]

Just recently discovered your channel, Brett. Born and raised in Silver City, I appreciate your outings in the countryside I grew up in. I enjoyed this session with Rolland, Jim, and Kenneth. Rolland and Lenore are good friends of my family, especially my dad. I heard a lot of names mentioned that I hadn't heard in probably 40-50 years. I look forward to catching up on your adventures.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Some good guys there for sure .. Thank you glad you enjoyed it

[@juliojames5986]

Supposedly the last Grizz killed in Colorado was in 1904…Old Mose….Interesting book by that title, still available. There are people that swear there are Grizzly’s still here ? The DOW,says no, none ? Same with wolves….I believe I saw one about 8-10 years ago, SW part of the state. These interviews you do Brett are so compelling, so interesting. 🤔👍🏻. My guess on declining deer and other game, at least in Az, is off-roading yahoos in 4X4s of all types, game cameras, high tech E shit….all types. Now drones….!

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Your probably right on the poacher yahoos .. thank you I will try to keep doing the interviews but some will only be on the Double U hunting supply podcast .. some of these guys will talk and let me record but don't want to be on camera

[@charleywalker2982]

Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Will do!

[@normankeys2154]

What a good job mr.vaughn sure enjoy the interview's thank u sir

[@BrettVaughnB100]

You bet Norman glad you like them ..thank you !

[@michelorphey5227]

I can’t remember not knowing Roland and Lenora. My folks got together in collage there at WNMU in silver city. When it came time for me to show up, Roland’s oldest boy Mark showed up at the same time. My folks hit it off with em, then started my growing up years hunting and punchin cows on the Rice Ranch.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

I bet those are some good memories .. I really enjoyed talking to him .. Thank you

[@gregferre8145]

Thanks for taking the time to do this Brett! I enjoyed listening to those guys.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Thanks glad you liked it ... working on getting some more ..

[@TimberTramp]

So good. Hope this stays forever!

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Yep ...

[@chrisarchibeque9062]

I'm 23 years old and I love these videos I'm down here in south east New Mexico and my brother and I just got some pups we can run. We plan to do it old school like this we don't have no horses or anything I hope we can be successful

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Thank you ... good luck and let me know how you do .. If you can get a hold of Benny Griffin he is in your part of the world

[@chrisarchibeque9062]

@@BrettVaughnB100 Benny Griffin of hagerman

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Yes .. he knows that country over there pretty good I think

[@chrisarchibeque9062]

@@BrettVaughnB100 awesome I'm right down the road of there I'll ask around when I'm there

[@BrettVaughnB100]

@@chrisarchibeque9062 Yep tell hm I sent you

[@richardpearson504]

Really enjoyed interview with the three old cat hunters Brett I can't get enough of hearing the old timers they've seen an experience d alot I made a three quarter running walker quarter treestock cross awhile back pups about ten weeks now I'll send you a pic of one next day or so take care

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Me too I enjoy listening to them …sounds like a good cross ..I have a half running Walker half blue tick right now ..thanks !

[@dh3189]

Very good interview and story telling! Laughed along with them.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Great glad you liked it .. Thanks!

[@davidnicholsjr.6775]

I love this videos you do....you can learn so much from the old timers...& they always make me laugh. That one old boy sure like playing with that head phone cord...LoL

[@codybrewerpbr]

Keep doing these! Greatly appreciated!!!

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Thank you for watching!

[@seller559]

That was too much fun. One of your best.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Thank you Seller .. they were a hoot

[@mikemerlos7787]

Love the videos!!

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Thank you .. glad you like them!

[@zamanski7094]

A lotta knowledge sitting there!

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Man there was ....thanks

[@TimberTramp]

These boys got the tail end of ‘the best part of this country’

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Very true ...oh well it is what it is and we need to make the best of the time we have .. Thanks

[@wallacejeffery5786]

Love it

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Thank you they were fun to talk too

[@rmlestes]

Thanks

[@chuckmiller5763]

I hunted with Ollie Barney on the Elkhorn ranch in Southern AZ. I built the barn at his house in Rio Rico where him buddy Buck Gardner stays.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

I bet that was fun .. he sounds like he was a character.. I read his book and I sure would of liked to of hunted with him .. I bet you have some good stories ... did you watch the interview ?

[@chuckmiller5763]

@@BrettVaughnB100 He passed away not long after I built the barn. Watching Randy Cooper now, another good man. Hunted a lot with ol Coop. Im getting back into it now, I messed up my back in 2006 and couldn't ride anymore. Its all better now. Binge watching these videos dont help me none.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

@@chuckmiller5763 I took a friend of mine long time ago to pick up a one eyed white mule from Randy .. thanks for watching and glad I could motivate you lol

[@chuckmiller5763]

@@BrettVaughnB100 Haha, I remember that one eyed mule. Coop had him up there in Prescott. at 38:55, the guy Childs he mentions is Jack Childs, he always hunted with Warner Glen. I worked with his brother on roads, he was a Pima County surveyor. Jack Childs did the Jaguar study for the AZ game and Fish in southern AZ. If you can locate him, that would be one heck of an interview. I tried to get dogs from him a couple times but he wouldn't budge.

[@jerryransbarger8927]

This is great

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Thanks Jerry !

[@billhillify4924]

Wow…lots of old names in this video I haven’t heard in 30 or 40 years.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Some good guys here .. Thanks

[@284Winchester]

“I think he finally died up there” 😂😂😂

[@EmmettHenderson-hf1zm]

I guess I've been lucky because I've had 3 good mules.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

I haven't had a real bad one yet .. Thanks

[@kyleerice5604]

Was wondering if there is a way to purchase a DVD of this? Rolland is my grandfather.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

I think so ... I will try to figure out how to do that

[@kyleerice5604]

@@BrettVaughnB100 Thank you!

[@jaysenclark6568]

Conditions matter, but My dogs seem to always be able to go the right direction on the last night track, but after the track is a few days old, they have a hard time with which direction it’s going. What do you say that???

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Yes I think your right ... far be it for me to tell someone that they are wrong .. I know I trail backwards probably more often then I would like ... but my trailing conditions are pretty tough... Thanks

[@jaysenclark6568]

@@BrettVaughnB100 year’s ago, I had very cold nose dogs. I never to this day have never seen dogs that could trail old tracks with them. I spent a lot of time trailing tracks every where for hours, not catching anything. The dogs I have now can trail a 12-20 hour track on the bare ground and sometimes the conditions don’t let them, but I catch a lot more game with them. I love to watch hounds cold trail but I also love to watch them catch game. Also, I don’t enjoy competing with other hound men , but I love to learn, exchange information or other peoples options. I ask questions and listen, but don’t judge. This state of mind has made me a good horse trainer. Thanks for doing what you do! I love it!!!

[@allywilkeforsenate]

Cats will back track.

[@rowdyhoundsman]

Just a suggestion, but what about asking these old timers how they pick where they hunt? Like what do they consider lion country, how they find crossings, how will they hunt an area they haven’t hunted before. Just a suggestion is all.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

I will try to remember ..Thank you..!

[@kadenzanone7581]

How does one get a hold of a pup from someone like you guys? Nowadays you get all these joe blows on the social media sites that don’t know a dang thing except for looking for a tracking the snow sitting in a warm truck..

[@BrettVaughnB100]

There are guys around that have good lines ...where are you located ?

[@kadenzanone7581]

@@BrettVaughnB100 I am in lower Oregon.

[@kadenzanone7581]

Looking for dogs that you men are talking about.

[@284Winchester]

I bet it would be something to see a grizzly bayed by dogs. 👍

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Might get a little sketchy lol

[@williamnelson8389]

Ben Lilly???

[@williamnelson8389]

Anybody know anything about him

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Oh yeah right there in his old stomping grounds

[@johndutcher2446]

The Car insurance Companies were the ones that pushed the Doe season in Michigan and Wisconsin. They wiped the White Tail almost out; it has taken 40 years to get some of them back. I don’t think I will live to see the day that you can go out and see two hundred deer in an evening. It is just greed!

[@jamesjefferson1038]

Man hope you got paid from this video they put a ad every 2 minutes

[@BrettVaughnB100]

I'm sorry .. just like you I don't like to have to watch advertisements .. so much so that I pay for youtube premium. I think it costs me $8.00 per month and no ads and video creators get a portion of it . My adsense that youtube pays me doesn't amount to much but it is something. Besides the people that support me through the channel memberships it is all I get for doing this. Until some big company that I like approaches me about sponsorship I will keep the ads on here. You can go over to Double U hunting supply and listen to the podcast there with no ads on it. Thanks for watching

[@EmmettHenderson-hf1zm]

In Oklahoma it went from a guy could everywhere to a person could hunt nowhere. Idiots everywhere will kill you or your dogs. It's disgusting.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Yes it is .. hope it doesn't happen here .. Thanks Emmett

[@duggaboy]

Take 5 seconds and help the old timer with the frickin headset, jesus christ!!!

[@BrettVaughnB100]

Are you complaining

[@duggaboy]

@@BrettVaughnB100 I'm am complaining that you didn't help him get set up, so he would be more comfortable. He has to adjust his headset every 2 minutes. Love the interview though.

[@BrettVaughnB100]

I did help him ...but he didn’t get it comfortable until later in the interview ...heck I was just happy that they would put them on