Moving Freely around EU on a EU Residence Visa (Myths & Truth)

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[@johndexter2702]

Thank you very much for the clarification. Exactly what I was wondering! :))

[@amir5593]

Exceptionally gem. Thanks a lot Michael.

[@OffshoreCitizen]

You're welcome! It's always my pleasure!

[@tinglestingles]

Useful information....!

[@nudgemoney]

What you explained about extending an extra 90 days is called the bilateral agreement. I didn’t know this applied to European residents. If this is the case, you can do this same strategy with a US or Canadian passport as you mentioned, so now I’m second guessing if a Portuguese visa is worth the effort. One thing to keep in mind, you need to apply or request the bilateral agreement. It’s not immediately granted or in force. In many instances, that might be the best use of your energy and time if your goal is just to spend time in a Schengen country for 90+ days.

[@MakeItSo_ST]

Another helpful video! I, too, had this misunderstanding. I hadn't even considered additional treaties individual countries may have! There's so much to learn, but I'm enjoying the process. I plan to move to Portugal in about a year... I need to be INSIDE Portugal 183 full days and OUTSIDE of the US for 330 full midnight-to-midnight days excluding time in international airspace. I have to juggle Portuguese immigration with restricted days for holiday/family/business travel to the US. I've already been warned by US expats I know there that you need to keep receipts and records to prove where you are/when to the best of your ability. And then there's understanding Schengen rules with Portuguese residency as I need to shop for a new home country in Europe for my business.

[@alfinal5787]

Careful, stricter countries like Austria might check how long have you been staying.

[@cris7ea]

I was having a conversation with my colleague at work and... how they track how much time you're spending in Europe is airlines report your flight info to governments... I'm not sure if trains do the same but airlines do that for sure.

[@rantg]

this. And people think EU is that stupid.

[@tinglestingles]

You are correct...We were told by a Portuguese immigration lawyer that we would need to stay in Portugal - 6 months per year (non-golden visa residency) but could be in Schengen for the other 6 months as no one really checks but... Portuguese immigration may check our 6 months status, within Portugal by checking bank statements ... I'm already thinking of ways around that...!

[@aussiecapitalist614]

I was told they most likely would only check that occasionally when you applied for a visa extension and normally only the previous 3 months, they may ask for credit card receipts for your purchases in Portugal then to prove you were there.

[@alefermin]

Couldn't they also check your plain tickets?

[@MichaelRosmer]

You can just give someone a card to shop for you while you're away and you'll have a trail of spending in the country if you are concerned.

[@jannikhansen9833]

Go to the bank... Take out €10,000 in cash. Now you got on paper that you can live of this in Portugal for groceries. And you forgot to give your NIF when you shop... If you are around in Europe, you will spend the € regardless.

[@Ast151]

Find a local, give him $100 limit credit card to spend monthly in exchange for a "room rental agreement". At the end of 2 years temporary residency you'll have a 1 year lease and plenty of receipts.

[@NoName-nm3yx]

wondering how they know you spend 30-90days in schengen area when there is no passport stamping on the airport ...

[@Andy_OvaSeas]

New Zealand has the same exemption as Denmark.

[@jessemakaj7449]

Hello Offshore Citizen, I loved this video and really helped, if you would be able to answer my questions that would be greatly appreciated. So I have a residence permit in Estonia, would I be able to go live in lets say Italy for example for 2-3 months? I am not an Eu Citizen.

[@ducman96]

What about a Residence permit in France for financially independent persons, would I still be able to travel freely in the EU?

[@ywueeee]

is this still the case or has anything changed?

[@FatenRahaman-s3n]

i have Portuguese resident permit card that have valid 1.5 years. I come for travel in Sweden at my friend of house, after 15 day later Swedish police catch me and they ban me from all schengen country full europ for 3 years, now what i do?

[@TheAlfakitty]

If I wanted to spend most of the year in the UK (outside of the Schengen zone), could I purchase a property in Malta of 330K Euro, pays fees, own for 5 years, etc and still reside most of the year in the UK while my daughter attends a private prep school? Malta seems to have magical "properties". Or would I have some special allowance to live in the UK if she is admitted to a private prep school there?

[@cherylvandermeulen6897]

Hi Micheal, we are looking to by a small yacht in Greece and would like to spend 6 months there every year. We are South African, but would like to apply for the D7 retirement visa for Portugal, with looking to buy property later on. Would we be eligible to obtain a D7 and still be able to visit South Africa.

[@OffshoreCitizen]

You would. To be eligible for a D7 visa, you must have income or pensions amounting for 12 months: €7.200 for the first adult; €3.600 for the second. The minimum in-country stay requirement per year is 6 months, the other 6 months you're free to spend elsewhere. In case you need any help, feel free to contact us www.offshorecapitalist.com/

[@alefermin]

Could they check your plain tickets?

[@MichaelRosmer]

It wouldn't prove anything though because you could have driven or taken trains all over during the time between tickets. That being said they don't tend to do any of that in almost any case.

[@alefermin]

@@MichaelRosmer Great point. Thank you.

[@Ast151]

@@MichaelRosmer Actually, D7 Portuguese visa limits the number of exits. I think it's only two. I would not fly, rather take a bus or train

[@MichaelRosmer]

@@Ast151 where did you get the idea of this limit? We've never had any such restriction for any of our clients.

[@Ast151]

@@MichaelRosmer D7 visa is given for 4 months with two exits maximum. Then 2 years temporary residency requires staying in Portugal for 1 year and one day minimum

[@user-vq7qb2pq3o]

so if this is the case, you can also skip the 183 days rule for tax. Correct? You can get tax residency in Bulgaria but don't actually live there and live in Greece. Who counts your 183 days in Bulgaria? You just show that you have a rental agreement in Bulgaria. Do you confirm this?

[@OffshoreCitizen]

Bulgaria isn't in the Schengen This being said also watch our video on the 183 day myth and also the tax residency myth as there's some misunderstanding there

[@user-vq7qb2pq3o]

yes, Bulgaria is not in the Schengen, but they don't stamp your passport if you have (for example) a Greek residency ID card. @@OffshoreCitizen

[@ahmmedabrarluxurypropertyp56]

I have a question that recieved from.one of my.clients Can a non EU national obtain two residence permits in.shchengan zone.?

[@OffshoreCitizen]

Yes though they might not be able to maintain the requirements to renew both depending on the permits

[@ywueeee]

This is interesting, so basically you could use trains and buses to be on the safe side and workaround the 90 days rules. I had a question though - I am getting a type D visa from a country in the schengen zone which has 3 months validity before which I have to enter that country and apply for residence permit. Do you know when the 90 day rule starts? i.e Do I get 90 days on the entry visa (as it's from a schengen country I can travel anywhere in the zone?) and then another fresh 90 days on the resident permit which makes it 90+90 legally?

[@OffshoreCitizen]

This is all about having a residency permit not a tourist visa. But the tourist visa period starts effective the day you enter

[@ywueeee]

@@OffshoreCitizen I understand that. But to get the residence permit you get a temporary visa to enter the country right? That's what I talking about. Whether one could use that to increase the 90 day limit effectively.

[@Sasquatch__]

This is more or less like the US state tax home status but freedom of interstate travel in concept?

[@OffshoreCitizen]

Not really. This is about the freedom of travel, rather than tax. If you get a residency in the USA (green card) you can freely live in any state and move from state to state without the need to reapply for a new residency visa. However if you got a residency visa in France, but now you want to live in Germany technically you should apply for a German visa from scratch. However the benefit of the Schengen zone is that there are no borders, so once you got a residency in one country it is very hard for them to tell how much time you were spending in which country. If you have EU citizenship then you don’t have any limitations, and can live in any of these countries as much or as little as you want.

[@alefermin]

I'd guess the only downside would be that you're throwing money away on rent that you aren't using in Portugal.

[@MichaelRosmer]

This is the case in most residency programs that typically require a long term lease. Realistically, it's a small price to pay and you should be planning on living there part of the year regardless so...

[@user-FM1]

@@MichaelRosmer what kind of these programs? I want to know more please

[@nickarora007]

Hi, Need some advice. Is there a way we could talk please?

[@OffshoreCitizen]

Hello! You can book a call with Michael, the link is in the description of this video.

[@rantg]

You are spreading here very dangerous information. As EU resident that checked this subject deeply, first of all airports data is connected in EU, they can easily know where you are with a simple check by an officer, second, there are face ID camera in must airports that check that, I saw a case of a guy who left Estonia to Finland for a year on a residency, but when he came back, on the airport they stopped him because the camera recognized he wasn't in Estonia for over a year. I researched this subject for a while, and I admit that in some countries they might never know, but I still heared about some cases when some techie country found out by simple face ID on airports.

[@firozshah5928]

You speak Very Fast and Mumbling , dont Understand your sentence ....