Moving Rails And Improving Points (Switch) On The Narrow-Gauge Railway.

Oh, the plans I have for this little railway! But I want to get them right, so I went back to the points I'd made earlier to improve them..
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[@nicolaiitchenko7610]

In my experience )mining lines...many underground...single blade points tend to be "Y" point design...allowing similar shallow angles on BOTH sides of the diverging tracks. So now...this set, as one expects from you and your EXCELLENT work...is perfect. Totally inspiring.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thanks very much, Nicolai!

[@grantofat6438]

It is NOT perfect. The right track turns the opposite way of what it should. It makes an S bend instead of turning two times to the right. In order to make it optimal, the two tracks should have equal angles at all bends, and always turn away from each other. Making one track turn towards the other only makes the needed angles worse.

[@sholtquist5625]

Brilliant, I absolutely love the narrow-gauge railway stuff! Watching carefully so I can build my own in the future :)

[@dansummers2965]

Interesting. You basically turned a straight-and-diverging point into a Y-point .... and I guess a Y-point is the natural shape for a kick-switch like this, because it's symmetrical so the blade fits properly in both positions without introducing a nasty surprise kink into one of them. Neat!

[@pvtimberfaller]

Wye turnouts are used for higher speed operations.

[@davek5784]

Hello from New Jersey USA. I love your rail way videos. They are amazing and show how that simple is effective. Keep up the good work.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thanks, will do!

[@StanFerris]

Dog sampling your coffee-- hilarious! What fun you are having!

[@thomaslevy2119]

Perhaps a garden tractor or riding lawnmower could be modified with the addition of flanged wheels to become a simple locomotive?

[@thomaslevy2119]

@@jamessmithandgarrettsmith3623 Axles could be lengthened or shortened as needed.

[@henrybest4057]

@@thomaslevy2119 The axles cannot be shorter than the mower's frame width.

[@gruenerKoenig]

I like it, and it could work with an engine. Talking about engines maybe Sandra could help you with that, how you may ask? There is a german tv show called "Eisenbahnromantik" and they made an episode about a little railway which is used by locals to drive to their homes on an island in the north sea. You can find it on KZbin its called "6 PS zum Überleben - Mit der Motorlore durchs Wattenmeer". The locals build theire engines themselves and I remember that one just uses a little honda engine and a crude transmission from a boat. Maybe this is helpfull and you got a little honda motor if I remember the mangler and your bandsaw ;-). Anyway, best wishes for you two and the railway!

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thanks very much. I'll put Sandra on the case..

[@MorpheusMF]

Yeah, i appreciate this episode of Eisenbahnromantik. I also know an engineer, who has already build an engine for his garden railroad. I remember, that he used a single-cylinder Hatz-Diesel and a reverse gear. The axes were driven by chains. If i remember correctly, there was one gear in each direction. The gears were engaged with a hand wheel. I remember that there was idle in the middle and one directional gear each to the left and right. It was a handmade 1:2 size miniature-version of a LKM Ns1 Here a link to this topic in a Modell Forum. www.buntbahn.de/modellbau/viewtopic.php?t=5472 Its German, but i think Google can translate it.

[@leslieaustin151]

@@MorpheusMF Gosh! So many good ideas and threads in that linked website! Tim, take a look, and Sandra gives you a great advantage over those of us who only speak English. Les

[@VitorMadeira]

@gruenerKoening (and @Way Out West - Workshop Stuff) here it is in plain English: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hH2YpIV5h8Zqd6c

[@justanotherwhitegirla7093]

6:12 There's your engine standing right beside you.

[@chadhumbert1791]

Glad to see the puppy was there for moral support

[@solarfunction1847]

@Way Out West - Workshop Stuff Make an engine by using an old bicycle frame that turns small 6 inch wheels. With the concept of a tricycle you just need to turn the single front wheel into 2 wheels that you can turn & use the 2 wheels at the back to spin by welding a sprocket onto a fixed axle then as you pedal the 4 wheeled quadcycle it will push your carts slowly around the yard. You can pick up an old bike from the local tip or rubbish dump & modify it yourself.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

I'm hoping to move tons at a time and I think I'd need a little help with the energy required

[@solarfunction1847]

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 Yes I understand that. Before steam engines there must of been hand carts to get around on rails & then later they scaled upwards to build engines. I just gave you an idea so that you can scale it up for yourself.

[@henrybest4057]

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 A very low gear ratio would help. A small gear on the pedals and a larger gear on the axle. Easier to move a heavy load, but you'd find it difficult to get any speed going. If you can't get a sufficiently low ratio (because of clearance problems?), consider an intermediate axle and two chains. The problems will come, not with starting but with stopping your heavy load, even with a motorised engine. You haven't got much rail surface for the braked wheels to grip on. I would first try putting a brake on your wagon to see how that works with a heavy load.

[@trailwayt9H337]

This Railway is Very simple and Very Excellent. I am a real railway lover ❤️ This is a Good work. It is very intersted to me ❤️👏👏👏

[@jackielinde7568]

Suggestions: 1. Look at Y switches, since you're starting to go down that road. You can always add small curves to correct after the fact. 2. Instead of having that kink on the left track, why not extend the straight part of that switch another three feet, then use a gentle bend to curve the track into the direction you want. Kinks tend to result in more derailments than curves. 3. That single rail frog has a lot of distance it must travel compared to dual rail frogs. If you're stopping your train, getting out, and then setting the switch, that's not going to be a issue. However, if you're going to have the switches operated from a central location, that travel distance is going to end up with more time the switch is not usable, and a higher likelihood of derailment. This is something to consider, especially if you're going to be building a switching yard and/or you don't expect the driver of the train to leave the locomotive when switching. 4. I hope your switching mechanism is going to have a locking lever used to set the switch. Otherwise, it's possible for the frog to swing out of position slightly and cause a derailment.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

All good points, Jack. Thanks!

[@jenhofmann]

I love that it's abbreviated to "loco" for the double entendre. 😂

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Ha! A Freudian slip : - )

[@jellifywas4641]

You are one hardworking and talented man. Bravo!

[@ajaxengineco]

You could do with making a weedkiller wagon. A barrel with a sprinkler mounted on a flat wagon should do the trick!

[@cooperised]

Why? The wagon runs fine as it is...

[@ajaxengineco]

@@cooperised to be fair, they do, & the overgrown look gives the railway character. However, if they ever need to lift a substantial bit of track, having it's path covered by grass might make life a bit awkward.

[@cooperised]

@@ajaxengineco True. But then strimmers are a thing. 😁 I'm a fan of the unkempt characterful look, and in normal operation it cuts down on the maintenance effort. Plus like in the early days of the preserved Talyllyn, the undergrowth can help hold the rails to gauge when the sleepers start to rot out!

[@ajaxengineco]

@@cooperised their engine won't be as heavy as Talyllyn & Dolgoch, it'll be reyt! I imagine the track maintenance here is somewhat more conscientious n all!

[@Emersonac]

@@ajaxengineco a simple design could be a steel drum with a tap attachment poking out of the side, and using a T attachment, the weedkilller can flow on each side of the track. Easy.

[@edd6113]

Man powered engine with the see saw type bars on! Oh and it looks like a signal box is on the horizon!

[@grahamyoudell4105]

Tim I think you are a born engineer… I love watching your designs evolve into useful workable end products.. any vids on sourcing the old engine you use for mulching? Keep up the good work…..

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thanks, Graham. I think I just got lucky with the engine - I bought it unseen from an ad on Donedeal. Good luck!

[@japdog9]

just a thought , a old ride on mower could be easily converted to a rail engine . second hand with a rusted cutting deck or broken deck are very cheap they have alot of engineering as reverse gear and many foward gears also a diff and you can use the cutting deck pully as a extra power take off , and from my last post to you ,you can get old free car disks brakes from any mechanic to use as wheels , love to watch u invent , enjoy the paradise of work you create . lol don't forget to stop sit and have a quite drink and survey your paradise

[@michaelbenoit248]

For a make shift engine just take an existing wagon, add a large sprocket on an axle, run it next to an engine w a centrifugal clutch or vice versa for a belt then work out a pulley system to tension either belt to go forward or backwards. There are some cheap GoKart gear boxes w forward & reverse for cheap on eBay you can modify w a gear reduction/add a belt drive from engine to gearbox for clutch, then have a giant sprocket for more gear reduction.

[@alanm3438]

Good job!!!!! I am glad that you have a helper,😀😀😀

[@grahams5871]

Can't wait for the next episode. Two little ideas for for improving the switch further you've probably thought of already: -you can increase the kick bar length by 20 or 30% for an even smoother ride. -you probably have at least half an inch of slack in your 15" track width. you can use the slack to smooth out the sharp kinks a little. 0.5" goes a long way with a 5 degree kink (about 6" of curve) that will give your kink about 6" of cushion to run into. -smoothing and sharpening the kinks and kick switch with an angle grinder will probably help a little too.

[@WayOutWestx2]

trying to reduce the slack may cause more problems than it's worth, I suspect, Graham. Because who knows what wheels sets will be run on this one day. But the length of the kick bar is definitely worth considering. Next time...

[@frederickmoller]

I'm broke also living on a pension, if I could I would be a Patreon of your channel, because you are at the top of my list along with Goldshaw Farm. Great things that you are doing with your railway, and I would like to see a small loci too!

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thanks, Frederick : - )

[@Chr.U.Cas2216]

Dear Frederick M. Same here... unfortunately, sigh. I would absolutely love to support them. But as an early retired/retiree I simply cannot afford it. Not even the really high shipping costs for mailing some useful stuff (10 kg) to Sandra and Tim. 2) I know nothing about Goldshaw farm but I will check it out now. Best regards, luck and health.

[@kapegede]

You could build your first engine out of a cordless drill powered by a car battery or even with its own accu. Such drills are very powerful. A simple rubber belt from e.g. from a car is your power transmission. May be strong enough to pull you sitting on one trailer.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

I'm hoping to move large logs around though. But thanks for the suggestion!

[@cooperised]

There's only one way to find out if it's smooth enough for a locomotive - build a locomotive! We'll be here waiting, it's going to be great!

[@andrewtinker7537]

You don't need a locomotive engine for the railway. You've already got an engine. Use your stationary engine to power a drum winch to run a continuous loop of rope down the railway and back. Use pulley wheels on the sleepers to keep it moving smoothly around bends. Make an attachment for underneath the carts that can clamp onto the rope. Clamp it onto one side of the loop for the outgoing trip, then change to the other side of the loop for the return trip.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Nice idea,, but if you saw the route planned for the railway, you'd realise it isn't viable.

[@andrewtinker7537]

Looking forward to watching you put it all together.

[@glennreach6930]

Use an old ride on mower as the basis for the engine. Lots of power, easy to convert, and cheap to buy. Love your laid back channel.

[@WesleySnyder]

its wonderful that this railway can be lifted and adjusted so easily. its such a clever design. ps love the new channel

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thank you very much!

[@rottenroads1982]

I would really like it if their was a locomotive. So you must change those points. And when you do build a locomotive, I recommend you start with a Diesel because it would be easier to build. However, you could also have a steam locomotive. And it would run on Coal, Charcoal, and wood.

[@sirnikkel6746]

Hey! 2 ideas for locomotives! 1: ¿Can you develop Syngas tech to make the locomotive run on it? 2: ¿Do you think that you can make a sort of trolley locomotive with the electrified cable hanging above, around or in the side, below, near or between the tracks?

[@pinkpanter9999]

I really love the idea of the convoluted junction. Attaching the rails without the pegs will be a challenge, but may be possible. You might want to consider ballasting the multijunction as I guess sleepers sinking into the ground could be a real pain with so many tracks needing to be precise. Would also help with the overgrowing. Really love your simple yet so effective railway! Really out of the box in many ways

[@krowvin]

Tim's grass grows rampant and I can't get my fescue to grow at all! Maybe I should build a railway on top of it. Tim if you do decide to create a loco 0:33 I'll be super excited! But I just like trains. It's all good content so do what makes you happy!

[@tracybowling97]

Hi Tim! I am so glad to see this your 2nd video. I didn't tell you yet. But I wrote to KZbin to let them know that I couldn't view your channel. I don't think they wrote back. But viola, I can now see you! P. S. You two had the cutest helpers ever on this project!

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thanks, Tracy! (They meant well but they were as helpful as a balloon.)

[@leohoward7282]

Very interesting and informative video.

[@mungmungie]

In terms of getting the best performance out of a single-bladed switch, I think you have the right idea. The problem of designing a locomotive is a complex one, because the simplest kind of locomotive--a 4-wheeler--will track best on a dual-point switch. Negotiating single-point switches is best done with a very short wheel base, suggesting the need for a locomotive with bogies. Fining the balance between these two will take some trial and error, and no small degree of ingenuity. But then again, that's what this vlog is all about, right?

[@WayOutWestx2]

Thanks, Peter. Yes, the more I think about it the more I realize I don't know how to calculate all I need to know, so it'll have to be trial and lots of error

[@randomclass4653]

it's been months since i watched your channel But your Railway has Become more advanced and Larger! Keep up the Good Work!

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thanks, will do!

[@JohnSmith-bb2np]

You could take inspiration from go karts made with old lawn mowers to make a locomotive train engine. Getting it to go in reverse may need a bit of a think though. I would try to keep the two handles of a self propelled mower for engine and drive so should you let go of them both it will stop moving and running entirely, for safety.

[@ajaxengineco]

Reversing might require a bit of fettling with the gears. Not impossible but somewhat inaccessible for maintenance on the clearances of 15" gauge stock.

[@moodophile]

See I was thinking an old scooter, would have most of the transmission integrated. Reverse might be trickier…

[@lauraandedwardcannon8861]

I think the switch will do ok for the (future) locomotive as long as the wheelbase is short.

[@robinforrest7680]

Subscribed immediately of course! I just love the inventiveness and practicality of what you do. George Stephenson himself would be proud: « What are you doing fiddling around with that piece of machinery lad! (referring to son Robert’s theodolite) Look at the ground lad, that’ll tell you where the rails have got to go! » I must admit I do wonder if in the end it wouldn’t have been simpler just to add a second curved blade to your points. A welded tie-bar would ensure both switch rails move together. As for a locomotive, well at least there’ll be no need for a large (and VERY expensive one). A short wheelbase 0-4-0 will do and should be able to negotiate your kick points successfully. I wonder if you could adapt one of your wagon designs with a chain drive to either an electric motor run off some car batteries or a small petrol or diesel engine?

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Luckily there's no hurry for one, and no money for one, so I've have plenty of time to ponder the alternatives : - )

[@andymanaus1077]

Hey Tim! I found your second channel and subbed today. That switch looks much nicer now.

[@TheInfoworks]

A 12 or 24v battery powered shunter may be your answer. Powered with a permanent magnet DC motor and a speed controller readily available on Ebay, cheers

[@ronmartinmhg2804]

You're on the right track! Interesting.

[@andrewreynolds4949]

I wasn’t sure how you were going to improve the design of the points without making it much more complicated (and thus more expensive and time-consuming). I really was impressed with your solution! That intersection diagram looks fascinating! On another note I really think you could get away with winch and cable-hauling rather than having to build a locomotive wagon. If you get some old secondhand motors you could put one with a winch at each place uphill where you need it, and no worries about switching around your locomotive.

[@IjonBerlin]

they have donkeys and horses that can be used in pulling stuff

[@VanderlyndenJengold]

@@IjonBerlin and dogs, they've dogs with excess energy.

[@andrewreynolds4949]

True too

[@platinpalladium]

Have you thought of an electric locomotive? Could be easier to build and is not at all a modern idea. Small electric locomotives have been around since as early as 1840!

[@tonywatson987]

Not until 1887. That was when the first practical electric locomotive was introduced.

[@Kullioking]

@@tonywatson987 You forgot the little miningtrains.

[@odonald6087]

Electric scooter rubbing against a wheel?

[@davidhall8874]

I have no doubt you will build your Loco! I think I will stick around and watch! Well done on your switch!!

[@southern207hobbies]

You could take a old ride on lawnmower and use chain and sprockets on top of a special built wagon for your locomotive

[@martinsto8190]

I had another idea for the future points, what if you can get the one flat rail to bend frequently? instead of having the points move side to side with a switch, the bendy rail can be operated by a rotating handle that tightens the rail with a cable attached to both ends of it and then do the same with the outer rails of the points.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

An interesting idea, Martin. Thank you. As long as it doesn't keep bending when there's a big load on top..

[@mischef18]

That smoothed it out well bro. Watching the garden railways they seam to have electric motors run on a car battery or lawn mower engines but in your case would need to be geared right down. Enjoyed the video. Safe travels

[@thewunder-lusters9644]

Much smoother. Bravo! :) ... love the donkey and dog assistants too. ")

[@adrianbew9641]

As a narrow gauge track layer underground for 5 years in my mining career, my advice for smooth running is gentle bending not kinks, kinks rarely end up directly opposite and because of that there's more wear on the outside of the kink than the inside and A tendency to make the wheel jump up slightly. A gentle bend reduces the wear on the outside of the rail and produces a smoother ride. Since your bars are very thin simply altering the position of each sleeper slightly should achieve a gentle bend, failing that your press will do the same by bending the steel 1 or 2 inches between each slight bend. I bent 2 x20 ft rails parrellel 90 degrees with such a method that allowed the wagons to travel the curve attached to each other without dis mounting the rails.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thanks, Adrian. But then I couldn't use single-blade points, could I?

[@adrianbew9641]

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 we had sword and Vs as we called them but the same thing. I may have not explained myself completely, and intended to say that from your V section rather than have a kink you want the rail to bend especially if your going to use a loco of some sort and likewise if necessary from the sword point, this alleviates parts of the rail where the wheels almost come off it to follow its path. Small gauge rails are more problematic than their larger counterparts when creating kinks in the rail system as the travel distance is much shorter as you found when putting your wheels close together. Hope this is clearer and of benefit .

[@StrasburgRailfan]

thank you :) and I also want a train like mill brook's train.

[@jasonwhitler4167]

Locomotives are expensive... But I wonder if something pedal powered could pull hard enough to shunt wood chip wagons at slow speeds 🤔

[@Gin-toki]

The locomotive can be made cheap with a reused engine which can be gotten cheap or even for free, depending on how much rework/repair one is willing to do. The rest of the locomotive is pretty much just the same as the waggons.

[@andrewchapman2024]

Wonderful to see progress being made on the line. I want to build something similar on my property.

[@colinlothlorian]

Take a look at the transmission on my Scamp design, you have probably seen them in the minimal gauge railways Facebook group. I use a small petrol engine to drive a permanent magnet motor as a dynamo, feed the output through a cheap controller and a reversing switch, to an identical motor which drives the wheels by chains via a layshaft. Limited to about 1 hp, but with the right gearing I pulled 2 tons up a 1 in 80 gradient.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thanks Colin. Yes, I'm thinking that makes most sense. (I had thought a hit-and-miss engine sitting on top would be fun, but I can see it shaking itself and the tracks to bits!)

[@colinlothlorian]

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 I do fancy a hit and miss loco one day, but in track rather more substantial than yours! I would use electric transmission, as unlike mechanical transmission it absorbs the thumps and bumps from the engine and gives a smoother drive.

[@cprgreaves]

Tim, I love your logic, and your approach to learning-by-doing. That said i am puzzled by the demonstrated fact of your skill in adapting tools and machinery. I know that time is short; we are given only 24 hours in a day, but I had supposed that by now you would have adapted a flat-bed wagon to be powered by a small gasoline engine (or similar) so that you would have taken the first step towards powered wagon-moving. Surely hand-power is enough for the few loads you move, but a simple power unit would be a huge step towards a "proper" puffing-billy (if that is what you have in mind). I swear that if I can ever drag myself away from your videos, i will get around to completing the installation of my little wind-turbine. My neighbour, David, says that you are a bad influence on me ... Chris

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

I'm also surprised how long everything takes. In my defense I would point out that I do have to make things all the time to earn a living. Plus, I've had covid which knocked me out for more than 3 weeks. And I never have enough money to buy materials in advance. In fact, it's a wonder I get anything done at all : - )

[@michaelhogan9053]

Your rail system is something, but I think I would stick with wagons and rubber tyres. Good luck Tim. Don't forget animals can pull cars too.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Rubber tyres? No plans for those, Michael!

[@James_Rivett]

the simplest loco would be a battery electric. a 24 volt motor driving your axles via chains and sprokets, powered by, car batteries. Speed would be simply controlled via a voltage regulator, somwhat like on a model railway, however you might find your rail head is too narrow to permit sufficant traction. It looks to me you already have your locomotive in waiting, in the shape of your donky :-) Keep up the good work.

[@lunayahwitch]

Definitely notice a positive difference now Tim 👍🏼🙏🏼🇺🇸

[@railroad9000]

Well done!

[@laszlofyre845]

You simply must have an engine! You're learning as you go, just like the early railway builders did, so you're in great company. And an engine need not be so complicated, I'm sure you will end up boiling it down to basics anyway, no need to re-invent the wheel, after all. ''You know it makes sense'' as they used to say in the old safety ads on Tv! Go get 'em tiger! (BTW, love the doggy and the donkey- they ought to get honorary directorships of your railway company when it kicks off).

[@davekimbler2308]

I wish I were close to you ! I would donate the motor and iron. Basically a go cart on rails , but it’s not like you have miles of track layed ! Lol

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

thanks, Dave! (Not much track - yet!)

[@davekimbler2308]

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 it will come ! At the rate your going you’ll have a few miles layed in no time ! Lol

[@neuralwarp]

Some newer rail systems don't have moving points at all. Instead the waggons have movable guide wheels on the left and right of the track that force the train into one or other direction.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Interesting - thanks

[@Chr.U.Cas2216]

👍👌👏 Big improvement!

[@spinningtrue]

Love it as always!

[@Marcus-yn7wc]

A wagon with a bicycle in the middle attached with a chain might work as a temporary loco

[@grantofat6438]

Why would that be better than just pushing them?

[@cobralyoner]

Looks great! can't wait for the locomotive!

[@PatGilliland]

It's just how I imagined the GWR re-gauging went on the day! You could of course have just curved the blade and then all you would have had to do was curve the inner and outer rails to match. Easy peasy..... ;)

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Ah, but I'm hoping to go much further in the future..

[@MegaApenstaartje]

I'd like to contribute that tenner you were talking about, great stuff Tim

[@MegaApenstaartje]

Can I do a one time donation as well?

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thanks very much Gijs! rustyironpig @ gmail.com is our paypay address.

[@MegaApenstaartje]

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 I don't understand how that works and can't find anything when i google pay pay adress

[@ZephodBeeblebrox]

You could build and engine though and it's not complicated... Start with an electric motor, put a pulley on it. Put a pulley on an axle to drive two wheels and put a belt and just use belt drive. Run it off a car battery.

[@jonnno100]

nice compromise, looks smooth to me :)

[@kyleshores432]

for the size of the cars running on the track, could find a cheap riding lawn mower to modify into an engine....

[@nicholaskemp2246]

You could convert an old garden ride on mower into an engine. And it wouldn’t cost a great deal either!

[@SteamLance]

You'd definitely need stronger rail for a loco, and some locos can be very simple, like fitting a lawnmower engine and having direct drive via a chain

[@crazyfvck]

That definitely made an improvement :)

[@WilliamAlanPhoto]

RR Tim might one day get a locomotive (probably with an antique engine of some kind)? Be still my beating heart!

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

I wish! But who knows what the gods will allow..

[@slokestope3769]

Freggin cool

[@pvtimberfaller]

So what you are talking about when changing the angles is referred to as a left hand, right hand or wye (even angles )turnouts.

[@johncourtneidge]

What you are edging towards are Y-shaped switches (points) with curves after them . . .

[@liamholcroft7212]

Tim, why not butcher an old ride on lawnmover for your engine, the chassis can be made the same way as your wagons, you'd just need something to transmit power fromthe gearbox to the axles, presumebly a chain.

[@Bibibosh]

You should definitely motorised the wagon.

[@dimitriitcaci8922]

Good job

[@millomweb]

6:16 - Ahh, I spot a loco !

[@christiankarlfrey766]

Well done. I think these improvements are great. BTW: you need a locomotive.

[@kevintulak9987]

Very interesting. I wonder if you adapt an old gravely two wheel tractor (or something like it) to make an engine instead of building one from scratch it might not be as much fun though. Thanks for sharing.

[@Rospandan]

great job tim!

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Thank you : - )

[@nathanchan4653]

For ease of cost, maybe a battery-electric 0-4-0 locomotive would work with a rechargeable battery

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

yes, maybe

[@ujlt7198]

when i was little i didn't know what oil rigs were, so i just thought my dad worked building rail ways.

[@MusikCassette]

"If I had a tenner for everyone telling me that I need an engine for this railway, I had enough money to build an engine for this railway" lol

[@benjamingmail8172]

Bravo 👏 like from IRAN

[@SimJackson]

Concerning an engine, you could make a very simple one just by mounting an electric motor to a wagon and driving via a chain to the axle. Probably set you back no more than a couple hundred for motor, batteries, speed controller and parts. You can thrn build on that if you want it to have a cab etc in thr future!

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

You're right, of course, but the gear-chain to get the right speed ratio could involve a few sprockets - with bearings needed for each one.. Then there's the suspension and chassis. And I'd probably need 4-wheel drive..

[@SimJackson]

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 4 wheel drive can be done easily with 2 sprockets the same size on each axle and a chain between. Suppose the main thing is how heavy the "loco" would have to be in order to pull the required load. If you're only pulling one or two wagons at a time you might get away with a lighter engine and less powerful motor

[@SimJackson]

Also wouldn't have thought making unique sprockets would be an issue for a man of your talents! Especially with the plasma cutter. You would likely get away with ball roller bearings which depending on size aren't always that expensive, and for suspension you could always look at the BR MK3 bogies which have a hanging arm and a spring, then all you'd need to do for the chain tension is a spring loaded one like on a bicycle

[@52memor]

Something with an electric motor would suffice; There is a chap on you tube that built one for his grandkids Have a look

[@TheTorkerman]

What about an electric engine? Re purpose an old treadmill, variable speed and reasonably high torque, Ok into it Tim 😎

[@bobbylee781]

You're creative, and could probably build an engine with an old Howard rototiller.

[@plainnpretty]

I like your railway thank you for sharing it . Have you ever looked at Jonathan Sherwood on KZbin ? He built a very nice railroad engine

[@WayOutWestx2]

Thanks, I will have a look..

[@dimitrimotor2861]

well you can also use another engine temporarily such as a moped or grass mower 2 stroke or 4 stroke engine

[@jouebien]

The biggest problem I've had at scale (as in model scale somewhere between S and G) with similar point design is that the rail bows under the weight of the load as rolls it over the top. The issue gets worse the more truck sets you have attached. I had locomotives losses 50% or more momentum as they take the consist through the point. Although my points had proper curves and weren't made of just straight lengths. I had much better success with a blade design that is based on what they use in heavy rail. Although that required a frog and check rails.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

It's true, I might need to add more supports for the rail. But that shouldn't be too hard or expensive.

[@mikecarlson6416]

good enough

[@Frombie_01]

Just a thought, but have you considered uploading your other videos on the railroad to this new channel. You could still leave them up on the 'Way Out West' channel, just have 2 copies of them.

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

You're not allowed to upload the same video twice. So I'd need to change them a bit. But I am considering this. Just don't want to annoy anyone by repeating myself.

[@CharlieRockRock]

Why not build a jig for your bending press to bend gentle curves?

[@VanderlyndenJengold]

I might've missed it but if the charcoaling doesn't take off are there alterntive uses for this growing rail enterprise?

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

We'll cross that bridge if we come to it

[@doobedoobedo1]

@@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299 surely you mean you'll build that bridge if you come to it?

[@NGaugeVideo]

Would the weight of a potential locomotive be an issue for the railway?

[@MrNoUsername]

You definitely need ballast, the railway is overgrown!

[@wayoutwest-workshopstuff6299]

Yes, thanks, I can see that. But it's not cheap..