Mower test & Review of the Cub cadet Pro z 972 sd (aka the Billy Goat)

The cub cadet is rated to 25 degree hills or a 46% grade-we push that to the limits. Its also Big- but nimble- we test that & its 6 wheel steering. Yep all 6 wheels work together to keep this mower from tearing up grass- but does it work? We go up close and personal to show you in detail what is inside this machine.
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[@dslawncare5602]

I have to say I been watching you for about 1 month now. You are by far one of the best and smartest and well manner people in the lawn care business. I enjoy your videos

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thank you Alex, I appreciate the support !

[@phillipbonner5215]

A machine that Stan don't have anything bad to say about, that's amazing

[@Dirtmonkey]

I know- I was like what the heck!

[@user-lt3zd4jl3q]

I expect this mower will last several seasons with decent care. kzbin.infoUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend Also, I ran across the problem with it not starting the 2nd time I used it. There is a safety switch which is pushed in by the chute or mulching piece being attached to the deck. I took the cover off and it wouldn't start. Put it back on, no problem. It takes only a minute with 2 easily accessible wingnuts and no tools. This mower starts up first crank each time and it is a joy to use. It also mows in reverse by putting the key to the reverse area after starting and pushing in the triangular button. It will stay in reverse mode until you turn it off. All in all, for my homeowner needs, I really like this mower-and at 70 bucks a cut here in Miami, it's already more than 1/3 paid for itself in a month.

[@atcbuilder9004]

I come from Cleveland (MTD country) and I grew up hearing about how Cub Cadet went down hill after the we’re purchased. I witnessed first hand friends and family having issues with theirs Cubs and swearing off the brand forever. Well this year I needed a new mower for my property which has considerable slopes and I went shopping. I Demoed a Scag TT2, Ferris (can’t remember the model), Exmark Lazer E, and a Spartan. I wasn’t even considering a Cub because let’s be real, CC isn’t even in the same league as the aforementioned. Well my local Scag dealer convinced me to give one of these a try and I begrudgingly agreed. Long story long, I purchased a 760S and you can’t slap the smile off my face while I’m cutting. Hills that used to scare me every time are as worrisome as a dreary day and after spending some time on the other machines (Exmark left their mower at my place for 6 weeks) the overall quality for these CC’s is unmatched even by the best names in the industry. I’m in no way connected to cub or have anything to gain by saying so but all I know is the Pro Z’s are the real deal.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Great story. The Cubs are amazing.

[@243army]

we have the a cub proz 154s (steering wheel) over 700hr on the mower now and we love it , transformed our mowing business

[@legioncollector4218]

That's awesome to hear! That is the mower I want to pick up

[@cpayne5]

I've got the same mower, but I'm just a homeowner. This is my third summer with it and have only 70ish hours on it. I love it so far. Mine's got the EFI Kohler.

[@243army]

@@cpayne5 a lot of homeowners in our area in Australia are buying it not a lot of flat yards , i love it on the slopes

[@243army]

@@legioncollector4218 get that mower and you wont look back

[@legioncollector4218]

@@243army I plan on it man,thanks for the Info

[@tabranch3165]

Great video ,the sales rep. Knows his product and explains the features well . Looks like a lot of adjustments over time ? You get more with more ,good mower 👍🏻

[@matty2helpfull]

i love cub cudet they have some really nice lawn care equipment.

[@smokierspy]

I got one of the first model cub cadets it’s 1963 and I bought it for 300$ as a restoration project . I used it on a couple landscaping jobs last year and it out did all my newer equipment, up until mtd bought them out cub cadet was one of the heaviest lawn tractors built

[@htbud11]

Bought one today. Can't wait until they deliver it. I have some steep banks that I usually have to push. Hope it does the job. I feel sure it will.

[@jasonjulius9670]

Just got one a week ago. There is no comparison for the exmark Radius x that I have. I do hills with this machine that my exmark can’t touch. It’s a beast

[@backontrackaustralia3973]

G'day Stanley, I think this video just made me want go and purchase one of these machines. There is one available at my local dealership , I'm going to buy "the Goat" on Monday. Thanks you so much for producing your channel, love your work bud.

[@GreatDataVideos]

I had a Cub Cadet Tank and loved it! Well built.

[@jasonenterline8285]

I'm really digging the Cub cadet!

[@BACrites]

Looks like a tough unit. Also uses "schteel" construction. Nice.

[@kennolte5801]

What a great review. I have been loosely in the market for a big zero turn mower and had seen these advertised but have not seen anyone who actually owns one. The features like the hydraulic release built into the parking brake lever and the sealed bearings along with the air ride seat make this one rise to the top of the short list for me. Thanks for an honest real world review. I'm a recent subscriber to your channel and find all of your videos to be aimed at the real users of the equipment. Many of the engineers who design this stuff should watch them also. Thanks.

[@ehps7870]

We have been running commercial Cubs since 04..they have always been durable and heavy duty. The cub guy talks like this is year one for commercial HD series tractors lol..this unit does look interesting.

[@randyshofner]

I just got a new Pro Z 960s love it!!

[@Ryan_Maineaquaria]

I’ve been seriously thinking about that exact same mower. Definitely appreciate seeing a more in depth video and review of it.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks Ryan !

[@concernedcitizen9373]

I got a z760 and it is a incredible piece of equipment

[@benkohler3671]

The Billy Goat, great name I have a ybravo 21 gen 1 that I call the beast. You know you are having fun when you name your mowers !

[@Dirtmonkey]

LOL yes you are!

[@zachsharek3105]

I have two of these mowers and I absolutely love them you can take damn near anywhere I’ve taken them on slopes way greater than 25 degrees and still fell comfortable and then I can take it on my big open fields and lay down strips like it’s a golf course I cut roughly 30 acres with them once or twice a week and thats just my property

[@engineerwv]

When you say way greater....?

[@TheHwnleatherguy]

glad your uncle enjoyed his run around the yard..... you made his day!!!! ((( it's amazing the criticial comments that others have. if the were getting the same, they'd be all salty. Stan, great sharing & info, wish i could have one )))

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks Brother!

[@rmojo23]

Love our rzt-s never going back to a stick machine!

[@daryl9222]

loved mine for 3 years . on the 4th year ( out of warranty } last week mine decide to not start. turns over perfect acts like a car with the coil wired pulled. It's fuel injected so i'm not going to mess with it. got to wait on the dealer a couple of weeks before they can work on it. 🥲🥲🥲

[@Freecan67]

I love my Cub. Z force 54 Slops are fun with it. I have cut 30% Slope with it. No fear doing it. Try that with a bx or 1025!!! Not going to happen Cuts great. Thanks for sharing. God Bless.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks for watching Shane

[@backontrackaustralia3973]

thanks for the great info and demo of this machine, wow, I think I may have said this before but I think I'm going to get one of these beasts. These are $30,000 odd in Australia. I had a Cub Cadet Proz154sd for a bit and loved it. This is so far better than that machine , awesome stuff, Ian from Gecko Property Services in Australia...

[@r0m6v33]

Yesterday i was mowing my aunts yard with her zero turn mower and just like you said in the video It starts sliding completely sideways and a good 15 mph and slammed the deck into a tree Stoped that mower dead in its tracks

[@juiceboxxtm9848]

I sent my John Deere X300 down the road for my ZT2 Ultima. Love this ZTR. Cub cadet has there sh*t together.

[@Dirtmonkey]

yes they do.

[@sunseeker5071]

Stan and Aaron......great informative vid. I have 4 of these steering wheel models in our fleet. No plans of going back to lapbar. Why would we spend over 10K for a mower that can't even mow hills, retention ponds and require two hands to mow. Believe it or not..... on some of my smoother, larger lawns i can actually check my text messages. Try that on your lapbar mower....lol God Bless and again great video.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks Kevin!!

[@StoneyRidgeFarmer]

Man...how did you get Tony Stewart to show you his mower bhshhahahahha......great vid Stan! Looking like a touch of Ventrac technology on that machine.....lots of thought went into that mower! Thanks for the video !

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thank you !!

[@tabranch3165]

Whooooo 🌾

[@Hawks806]

It does look like the ventrac! I thought the same thing.

[@joefudd]

My first thought too! Tony Stewart!

[@yusufbrecken3007]

i realize I am kinda randomly asking but does anybody know a good website to stream newly released tv shows online ?

[@erniebigbie3211]

I have used a Tank S which is a predecessor to that model for three years on my 8 acres of rough and steep yard. Single rears 60" cut. I have never run a lap bar zero turn so can't compare but I mow parts of my yard that I know a lap bar mower would get in trouble quickly. Just hope you don't have to replace the power steering unit after warranty is up.

[@DIRT-BOSS]

Great vid the machine grew on me as I watched! Might be the next gen.. Thanks!

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks for watching!

[@timfleenor3705]

I've used every type of mower that has ever been manufactured, you will tear spots up no matter what type of mower you use. That's just a fact. I'm running a Z760S on the farm, and truthfully I'm seeing less turf damage that with using a tractor type mower. As far as longevity and durability, that is the only question left to ask, but I don't see any forseeable problems with proper maintenance and just using common sense. CC did their homework in my opinion, but time will tell. I would like to get my hands on the 972SD for a month or two though, just to see how it handles compared to the Z760S on the terrain that I mow on a weekly basis. The 25 degree rating is well under what I have comfortably mowed, even the 46 degree you say you have "pushed the limits" with is well under what I have seen with single rear wheels on the Z760S. It's all about what you feel comfortable with. But with the terrain we have here in Northeast Tennessee, I guess we have just learned to push the limits a little farther (ok, a lot farther) the most people do. Very good video.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thank you Tim !

[@jimmyd2153]

Just over the hill from you here in NC. I know what you mean, the only thing flat here is the floor in the house lol. I put mine on way steeper slopes than that every week. I went and tested this dually out yesterday and I'm tempted to trade up. The only thing holding me back is the weight, 1850 lbs is a lot to push around.

[@rippatv1246]

Thank you so much for the information!!! I'm starting out and your views on the machines are genuine and I respect your work.

[@JoshAllen17Goated]

Stan, fantastic job! Ive had 4 cub cadets, 3 push mowers, and 1 of my favorite tractor ever old reliable, my Cub Cadet GT2544 Heavy Duty Garden Tractor. The tractor is indestructible. Nothing can stop that thing and its little Kohler Command engine. Its shaft driven with the professional cast iron hydro. Its a beast. And the 3 push mowers 1 has been great 1 has been good and 1 ok. One is a budget model and has never needed anything but normal matinence. The 2nd one was a cub cadet sc590 I believe and its ok except for a snapped handle. The last one was a commercial model with caster wheels and a Kawasaki engine. I HATE KAWASAKI ENGINES! We did matinence every year and the engine threw a rod and bent the crankshaft. So it wasnt really cubs fault as much as Kawasaki. Thats my second bad Kawasaki. The other bad one i had was on a john deere x540 and that machine just is a piece of crap compared to my cub. Anyway i hope you have a great day Stan.

[@jaxturner7288]

“If you listen very closely you’ll hear it” Turns on compressor that’s as loud as the mower itself. I’m gonna go ahead and guess he’s not a fan of ear protection.

[@christophermking8572]

Jax Turner what

[@strayfiftynine9151]

@@christophermking8572 Funny. Good one

[@JD-tl7ld]

Now if only that would build a larger garden tractor as tough, I would be interested. My old International Cub is 51 years old and still pulls winter duty. I have a lot of faith in the old girl, but the day will come where she needs to be replaced. I looked at the XT3s when I was looking for a mower and was not impressed. This machine is highly impressive in it's construction. I just wish they would put half as much effort into consumer grade equipment.

[@EliteReon]

I used to use a John Deere lawn tractor and took 3-4 hours to mow my lawn then when I got my cub cadet zero turn steering wheel I was reduced to only 1 hour and 39 minutes

[@Dirtmonkey]

That's awesome ! Thanks for watching !

[@monkeyslawncareandgardenin473]

I have a 54 rzt, "residential steering zero" and have pushed it post past the limits of zero turns and with no problems.

[@arlcyborgify]

👌👍👏 Good Vid... but🤔 can u have more follow up Vids showing more Cutting of Lawns 👏👏 Get 1 Dirt 🐒

[@Dirtmonkey]

Will do!

[@riverajr47]

I loved the video. Was very impressed with the machine. The deal breaker for me after doing a little research is the cast aluminum spindles. Thank you for your videos.

[@mountainmike1685]

Spindles are heavy duty, designed to handle dual wheels.

[@jerrylee3757]

Wish we could of seen a little more of the power plant

[@Dirtmonkey]

I can post a pic of it on Instagram if you like.

[@junior8546]

I have a cub cadet. Not the professional model just the regular one and I like it. Does an awesome job cutting. A couple things I would change though. I don't like the backup safety switch. Turn the key back and press a button. The John Deere one I had before didn't have a switch so I always forget to turn it on. Second thing I would change is the bagger. It requires the inertia of the blades to throw the grass hard enough to make it into the bags. I seem to always plug the pipe unless the grass is really dry, or short. If I go into an area that has tall or wet grass, it plugs right away.

[@sharpbladelawncare182]

Cool machine. I WANT TO TRY!!

[@dand33911]

When these first came out I thought it was for homeowners who couldn't figure out how to work a zero turn. Seems to have the good stuff, Parker pumps, air ride seat. The simple Hydro unlock is awesome, if you get stuck. I still think the steering wheels goofy as f***, too complicated mechanically. It still tears up the grass. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, if you get close enough around trees it's less weed whacking. For 16k I'll buy a diesel Kubota. Also on your trimming comment around 16 minutes. Weed whack first! Weed whack first, leave yourself a nice couple feet around everything. For one you don't get what you just trimmed all over the fresh cut grass. It gets mulched up as you're mowing. And for two, you don't have to be precise around s***, you can just haul ass on the mower. When I started weed whacking first, it cut 10% off my mowing times.

[@evan9557]

I got one of the residential versions years ago with a 42" cut thing is a beast on hills I live in the mountains and it's perfect I'd love to have the bigger version but no way I could get around all the stuff I have to cut with a bigger version only thing I've had to replace after 250 hours is the spindles because I hit a steel shooting target turned the blades into tiller blades

[@hockaday2fer2]

There's a lot that could go wrong with that machine, more parts more chances

[@joescheller6680]

come back in 31 years and show me how it stould up, I have a 87 model Dixon that is old and well used but still goes. tinker once in awhile but even the new ones have issues

[@swscrash]

I GOT ONE and i mow 10 acres with it and im very satisfied

[@heresmytake2782]

I see this mower as being the standard in the future. I'm jealous...

[@jonnyg9330]

How much out the door $$$

[@swscrash]

@@jonnyg9330 the one I have after everything was said and done with right around 12k but I have made my money back on it twice over since I also mow lawns in my spare time a few times a week

[@FD-E-St-Fire]

Funny you say the price was 12,000. The dealer in central Florida told me$17,000

[@swscrash]

@@FD-E-St-Fire I'm in PA so prices very plus u have to figure taxes and what not

[@notquitebryce4200]

I love cub cadet too

[@ntran2012]

Nothing beats this machine on hill unless you spend $30k on a Ventrac. Wish they had the electronic steering on the entry steering wheel model

[@leefisher.styrenemarine5566]

I just bought a ZR1 I love it I can't wait till the next time I have to cut my grass it makes it just enjoyable I had a Troy-Bilt only before this but the best money I ever spent on a lawn mower but never ever thought I'd spend that much on a lawn mower but like I said it's enjoyable to cut grass only used it twice takes a little to get used to you got to steer by the back tire or you run everything over if you turn before that lol

[@StefanBacon]

Look forward to seeing what trickles down to the consumer market by the time I'm a homeowner.

[@a12vguru]

I don't have a use for a crazy mower like this. But I do have their lawn tractor and my 7 yr old son can run that thing with a bagger by himself (safe of course and supervised). They are making a serious peoduct!

[@salvatorecarapazza248]

Love these videos!

[@Dirtmonkey]

Glad to hear it!!

[@dencarey2475]

hey everyone . I mow about 75+ acres in my area at one property and were using toro 3000s they are last years models but when its time trade in or buy new mowers this is one of the brands were highly thinking about this reviews helps out alot

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thank you for the comments Den !

[@markhall3434]

Huge fan of steering wheel zero turns.. started 12 years ago with the Toro SW4200.. broke it bad.. but kept fixing/improving it. Just bought a Cub ZTS2 which is a huge upgrade. Way beyond 20. degree slopes. well into the 30's for mine. I'd like to see a Vent Track vs your Pro Z on hills.. climbing, decending, sideways.

[@greenmachine6146]

I have a ZTS1 46 in transit. Cannot wait!!

[@markhall3434]

@@greenmachine6146 it's a great machine. I think the zts2 50 was Overpriced at $5799, the zts1 is a much better value. The 46" or 48" would fit thru the door of my 5x8 cargo trailer, but I have to remove the deck for the 50". It tracks perfectly, no grass damage at all.

[@jacquesthompson388]

You got me wanting this over the Bad Boy Maverick HD. But I'm a cheap one. So anything over $10,000 I can't do budget wise. Maybe I can give up my next 3 or 4 birthdays and Xmas presents!! I love your reviews because if it can handle your craziness, I'm good!! Keep up the great reviews. BTW, do you have a review on the Gravely battery powered Z turn?

[@daveallen4194]

Stan... you should test drive a John Deere X739 garden tractor with the 4 wheel drive/4 wheel steer with the 60 inch deck. Up hill, down hill, side ways, wet or dry conditions, it don't matter. Cuts well, turns very tight, and is fast enough. I also use it to pull out my zero turns when they get stuck in steep wet ditches. I would guess the price of the John Deere (at about 12 K) is about 2/3 the cost of that Cub. I mow commercially in Hutchinson. MN. Blessings

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks for the heads up!

[@Buka851]

I have a John Deere X739. It is an awesome machine. I just wish it had a 72 inch deck!

[@johnhoard3838]

You should give badboy mowers a test. I have two and love them. The rebel is my latest one and a tank of a mower

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks for the suggestion John !

[@canyonstinky7817]

Take a look at their hydro walk behind

[@mountainmike1685]

I have one and I mow some 45 degree slopes If you can hold on, it can do it. It may slide down a bit but wont flip

[@michaelfarris2556]

Cub cadet does make a good mower. Now, how about a stand on version? I been burning up my zero turn for 2 seasons and no problem.

[@brianstewart3938]

I’ve been thinking about one of these but my question is how do you your leg feel after mowing a long period of time with having the foot controls

[@w.phillips1939]

DM - Nice, Thanks!

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thank you !!

[@iceroad416]

i would love to have one of those cub mowers

[@crazydudes3253]

Fantastic review

[@nicksevers8045]

Can you guys do a review and test of the PRO Z 972 SDL?

[@johnpetty7627]

This may be the wrong forum for even mentioning my measly little Cub Cadet Pro Z 148 S. However, if the Pro Z 972 SD will handle mowing side hills like my little machine, it'll have no problem at 30 degrees plus. Amazing! Let's see ANY lap bar model do that.

[@eighties8]

I get what you are saying about the lap bar but besides the "old school" look issues with a steering wheel and bulky steering column, I MUCH prefer lap bar control (steering + forward + reverse) to steering wheel + pedal forward + pedal reverse. I see no reason why steerable zero turn with lap bars will not be a thing in the future. I look for someone like EGO to innovate in that regard. Just mate up a couple of small DC motors to the caster spindles and wire them in to the CPU that controls the drive train.

[@acoaxetlawnlandscape6838]

I never see you go in reverse like a stick machine. so how those that work. that cub looks good and I liked your demo vids. great information like all your vids. so thank you. but reverse ??????? not much talk about it. i'm not trying to be negative. the machine looks dam good. but all the facts please. thanks happy 4th to all

[@RoxanaRandomStuff11]

I love Cub cadet

[@thomassoltis5862]

Great video brother Awesome video as always Hav a Happy Fourth of July to you and your family God bless you and your family

[@kabooomkal]

Mine makes peel out marks since it has no suspension. Yours has a suspension and dually’s. Thing must be nice on hills. The steering wheel not sure I would like it.

[@puchdrunk1]

Crazy cool unit but I still see turf tear out happening in the video.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Yes it does but really minimal. I was expecting a ton more.

[@big800wildcat]

Still slow compared to a Hustler Super Z Hyperdrive which can mow at 16 mph.... And if you make a 180 turn with the inside rear wheel not moving forward or backward at all, you're going to tear up turf on a damp lawn. But it does look like they (CC) have definitely made some serious improvements.

[@kennethperian4370]

What’s everybody saying about this mower makes you wonder if it a good thing or not my guess people will wait a long time before buying to see how good or bad it is don’t know will see. Well nice job showing telling have a good day see ya soon bye.

[@carrollthim8460]

like your video good going new mower god bless

[@danhenson6386]

Any owners care to share their long term opinion on these machines? This is way over my budget for a mower for very hilly property but don't want to regret purchasing the wrong machine. Other considerations are Kubota Z700, Spartan, or going to a sub-compact tractor with belly mower. I currently have a Z421 and mid size tractor, looking to add a machine for second property, thanks.

[@marshallcollins8634]

It looked to me that those duels eat the grass up. Look at 15:50 the grass he eliminated was at the rear tires.

[@brittanygriffith5027]

i got a pro z 900 60 in cut and you all dont know what steep is i need to send u a video

[@godwilllawncarellc9490]

I have F2100 kubota mower 60 inch deck diesel for over 24 yeasrs whit no issues

[@herman5eight]

Love the mower, but you're tearing the hell out of the grass. how much does this beast weigh ?

[@jhobaugh45]

15:48 Going around the deck looked like it chewed up lawn? I know the countersteering is cool (was my 1st question when I saw the steering wheel) but with a stick machine you can countersteer as well? The only advantage I see is going on the side of a hill, otherwise you have way more parts and things to potentially service. Looks tough though and would love to try one someday

[@casycasy5199]

wow this looks great i need to demo one

[@ChiliblockTrading]

Yup!!

[@oldcountryman2795]

You should try it on grass next time.

[@stricdog]

Can you do vid changing oil and blades

[@billyhighfill]

Trx 766!!!! They have tracked 0 turn mowers. Try em out please!!!!

[@thebad300]

I have the rzt-s if you come thru Ohio i will let you try it out i love it only a few complaints but mostly because i push it pasts its limits

[@funnytilltheresblood]

Stan have you reviewed mustang skid steers yet?

[@strayfiftynine9151]

The only thing I see. Is they could improve on is the looks of the steering column. Other than that it look great.

[@GroovesAndLands]

Tears the grass up pretty good @ 9:35 15:49 17:30 19:02 19:05

[@bjcarew]

your uncle is awesome

[@Bratt67]

What's the difference between this one and the one where the seat swivels?

[@Dumbfuckwithatruck]

Did you get to keep the mower or did the company take it back after a bit

[@bandag78]

Mario Kart on the brain

[@NatureRecycleFlorida]

cool i had 1961 cub

[@graesonoliver9224]

Dose it do good in mud have a lot of standing water In the yard and need to go good in mud

[@markshutt6000]

Wish I had a reason to own this mower...

[@mikesmith3771]

Too late on the hills i can take my stag or john deer on 30°plus hills all the time lol

[@ChiliblockTrading]

John Deere isn’t even in the same class buddy. Lmfao

[@ln5747]

These are 27k in the UK (£20k)!! Must be the import tax/shipping perhaps. Have a Z5 and seems it cost the same as a Z9 for you guys (16k dollars approx.).