MOZA Sim Racing Direct Drive Ecosystem - Unboxing & Detailed First Look

[@BottomSplitPodium]

I have to be honest, if the price is the same as Fanatec, what would be the appeal? Fanatec has more wheels, local service centers, console compatibility. I'd love to try a non Fanatec product but if they're not making the price competitive, it's a lot of risk for not much reward. You'd have to ship it to China to get it fixed.

[@jcoulter43]

Totally agree. Known, established product = Fanatec. Unknown, upstart product = Moza. The stuff looks nice, but if it's priced the same or similar as Fanatec stuff, I'm buying Fanatec all day long. Also, who thought it was a good marketing idea to label the pedals as "CRP"? Lost in translation apparently.... 💩

[@AmirPomen]

Atleast for simagic, they hare more and more dealer network that ready for any customer service/warranty/repair purpose... I would guess similar effort would follow suits this moza as well... Also.. i think almost everyone were a bit skeptical about these china brands sim product... But as for simagic..i would say..its really back for buck and in fact is really close to fanatec level... As for myself...fanatec is beyond my reach.. or even this moza... But simagic is within reach... Atleast their alpha mini, wheel options and feature, hydraulic pedal unit, sequential shifter were top notch

[@Clonetrooper1139]

Fair point, but if they make a strong permeatation into the market, it could be a motivation to expand outside of China. They definitely seem to have confidence in their product. Besides Will, DaveCam also received Moza equipment.

[@s_n9210]

Fanatec only ship to a handful of countries, which people from 70% of the other countries still can't buy any of their stuff. The concern about shipping to China for repairs is moot, because Fanatec don't offer local support either.

[@pablovi77]

Fanatec is only available in a very small part of the world. In our countries is not as cheap, it’s at the very least 100% more expensive. China products tend to be available for the same price worldwide.

[@adamsimpson2041]

I have a moza gimbal for one of our cameras and I have been really impressed with the brand in that space. Build quality is great and haven't had any issues. Shame this seems to be PC only though as I have guys I race with on xbox as well. It seems like a lot of money to ask from a relatively unknown brand, with an essentially 1 wheel offering and lower power figures than fanatec. A more competitive introductory price, especially given the existence of the CSL DD, may have worked a bit better. Excited to see where this goes though.

[@richardople]

Exciting times to be a sim racer. The options we are getting recently 🙌🏽

[@tonyyimbo]

🙌🏿

[@voongnz]

Yes, just need more compatible systems for consoles too.

[@gt_blaze1764]

For Moza's price point, I'll stay within the Fanatec ecosystem. It looks decent but if we're expected to pay the same price, why would anyone choose an unknown brand over a proven company like Fanatec?

[@acnamehere]

Because many, myself included, have had to return Fanatec gear on multiple occasions. Their support is garbage and they clearly couldn't care less about their customers once they have your money.

[@gt_blaze1764]

@@acnamehere I'm sorry you've had a bad experience with Fanatec, but in the 2 years I've been using their products i don't have any complaints at all. I've had to contact customer support twice for issues with my shifters (on two separate wheels) and they've been very quick to respond and gave me the info I needed to fix the issue myself. I guess I just caught them on a good day..

[@jordanruitenschild4683]

@EB-Away I haven’t had any problems with Fanatec as in the 1 year I’ve used their products, I’ve only had to contact their support once for a new loadcell and they sent it to us free of charge after a bit of back and forth with them asking for a bit more info on the issue. Within 5 days of the initial email we had it. Sorry that you had a bad experience but I can’t even judge if your being dishonest here given that youtubers like Boosted Media have been highly positive of their support system (even being in Australia) and the generl consensus is positive.

[@billwiley7216]

@@acnamehere And for everyone like you there may be hundreds or thousands like myself that have used multiple Fanatec products within multiple tier levels of their product offerings that have not had the first minute of problems or even one failure of any kind out of their offerings. I like and expect good customer service like the next guy but what I like even more is quality products that work and I never have the need to deal with their customer service department no matter how good it is. For me so far Fanatec has delivered those products that just work and have needed no customer service intervention, for myself that keeps me coming back and buying their products with feeling I have no need to switch to a different brand when I am happy within the current Fanatec eco system.

[@seanulo9432]

No reason but competition breeds improvement, and giving people options is always good. I'm with you, I've invested in Fanatec ecosystem and I wouldn't want to have to replace everything but starting out from scratch, you would never complain about having more options. :-)

[@ohgeez9971]

I think they changed the paddle design and you got one of the old ones. On their website, the top picture shows the cut-out on both the top and the bottom paddles, but the pictures down below show that both top and bottom on both sides are closed off

[@nicocrinkleburg]

This is so cool! Very happy about some new, high quality manufacturers entering the sim racing market. First Asetek, now Moza. Can’t wait to see what the future holds for sim racing! You’re all over it, Will - keep up the great work!

[@RorschDG-2]

Wait, Asetek the PC Cooling Manufacterer? They're making stuff now?

[@boostedmedia]

Yep. Check out our recent video.

[@Johnny641]

As mentioned several times in the comments already , it seems the paddle is incorrect. The fact that Moza can't even get this right for a review unit sums up the brand IMHO.

[@chrishayes8947]

Hey Will, i see that Dave Cam's wheel didn't have that shifter 'defect' that yours did. Not got for Moza when a key youtuber gets a defect for review and testing. Shame for them. Can't wait to see your full review though

[@BallisticTech]

Defects happen. I wouldn't say shame on them. It's more about how they react and respond to the defect that I'm interested in

[@MasterGynx]

Another awesome video! really like the look of this kit too! Love how many companies are joining the sim racing market! i'm reasonably new to it all but it's very addicting especially with these new tech coming out! Looking forward to your next review of this all set up!

[@rotatorix]

The unit MOZA provided OC Racing with had identical paddle shifters on each side, without that little gap in the right side one.

[@raypeasley]

29:25 - "Knife"!!!! "Thats not a knife"!!! LOL

[@boostedmedia]

😂 🐊 👒

[@HomieFFM]

I'll stay with Fanatec, specially when they release their new Quickrelease version. But more competition is always good :)

[@stephenbull2026]

Does look sweet in that McLaren orange . One day I will upgrade from my Logitech920 to a DD system and get my wrists broken. 😂 Great review. Covered all the points clearly and concisely. 👍

Thanks Will. Competition is always welcome. nice review.

[@rickswanracing3139]

They look absolutely beautiful. But.. as some have pointed out there are questions. I mean any time you attempt to penetrate an existing market, especially one that has substantial competition you have to differentiate your product and your brand. Is there a performance advantage? Serviceability advantage, cost advantage? How do they intend to steal customers from the manufacturers that dominate already? Unless I missed something I have not heard anything overwhelming or compelling to indicate any of that. The build quality looks absolutely amazing (i spent 20 years in machining, manufacturing, and project management and i'm impressed), but sounds like the pricing is on par with similar product. As some of mentioned... servicing the product would likely require shipping back to China unless they set up international service points. But everything else is eye candy at this point. It feels though as if they missed an opportunity... with Fanatec releasing the CSL DD... THAT is where they should have entered the market... competing with that. Come in with a similar product maybe with more options and stronger build... if pricing was right i bet people would jump in. Then... a year or two after that, come out with something bigger and better that inspires people to step up and get a wheelbase on par with the next tier up. I want to see this company become successful..... but I think it will be hard to steal the clients over. I look forward to hearing how the setup performs and the durability! Cool looking setup.

[@Dasspapirfly]

It looks really nice but I'd be a bit hesitant to invest so much money into this, at least fanatec is present in Europe if you need repairs/replacements. I do really like the design though.

[@celeroon89]

Do you have a direct drive?

[@Dasspapirfly]

@@celeroon89 No, not yet. Why?

[@celeroon89]

@@Dasspapirfly Nah just wondering. What are you interested in? I think im going for the csl dd

[@Dasspapirfly]

@@celeroon89 Still weighing my options, I've got time since I dont have the room for a full rig atm. CSL DD seems like a steal tho and the fanatec ecosystem is pretty big and varied.

[@celeroon89]

@@Dasspapirfly Ah I see. I have all the aluminium bits bc I work with aluminium extrusion, but no hardware to mount everything together yet. But yeah the csl dd seems like a solid option and it's not over expensive either

[@PaulisGaming]

Top shelf price without the pedigree, software support or after sales support 👍

[@Joakim_Johansson]

On Dave Cams review of the steering wheel the paddles do not have that gap on the upshift

[@Vesa549]

Hey Moza if you want to throw a deal my way i’d Give you a go otherwise like everyone else has stated, if paying full price I’d stick to the Fanatec ecosystem... thanks fellas, very informative for an unboxing 👍

[@Stingraeee]

I knew Moza brand was the brand work for 5 axis Gymbal Stabilizer in camera, and today they built a sim racing ecosystem

[@Jonah-Hosein]

Thank god... I've seen two people do a vid on this, one wasn't in English and the other was about everything apart from the pedals... So hopefully this is what i've been looking for 👍🏾

[@srctvideo]

you see that because this brand sponsors these youtubers and sends them their products. It's commercial

[@Jonah-Hosein]

@@srctvideo how does that have anything to do with people not showing the full product or talking about the full product? Counterproductive to send a product for review but only review half of said product.

[@boostedmedia]

Our review videos are not sponsored. Please refer to our disclosure video and article on our website for full details.

[@celeroon89]

Im going to start my simhobby for real now. Been driving with a Logitech g920 for a year and a half, at my desk so nothing serious. I work with aluminium extrusion so I got hold of essentially what a need for an alu rig. Now, I have'nt been able to afford stuff like Fanatec dd1/2, but since the csl dd is coming im going to buy it this coming spring. *I guess it's a good transition from a g920?* Was thinking csl dd, csl pedals with clutch the wrc wheel and maybe the shifter

[@DeanoDrives]

I'm getting Huawei / Xiaomi vibes from this product.. and thats a good thing. These Chinese companies make some great high-end products at competitive prices, often with features that surpass the big brands. Let's see how it drives

[@PaulisGaming]

Eventually. Their first wave of products was shite

[@r6guy]

wonder if this will get banned in the US too then....

[@tushardesai9690]

You got the defective shifter plate , I saw another review and there the shifter were proper without that cut .

[@Jeckaa84]

1400 euro for the 21 nm? A Simucube pro ( 25 nm ) costs 1450. Don't know who they are targeting?

[@blehz]

This. At this price, I don't want to be vendor locked. Especially with an unknown brand.

[@arielcor7392]

Hello. I really like Moza's designs. The new 300mm GS steering wheel seems to me to be a very successful measure. I wanted to know if the QR system really does not present any type of movement when the steering wheel is moved laterally, looking if it presents any slack. Because if so, I prefer to stay with my Thrustmaster TS-PC, which makes absolutely no movement.

[@vjollila96]

They look very cool but why on this price point they have potentiometers on pedals instead of HAL censors?

[@MadRS]

That right side shifter really throws me for a loop. I think my OCD wouldn't like the flex in the right paddle and not in the left.

[@phillupson8561]

Looks really nice, thanks for the detailed look. I must echo what others are saying, only good things will come from extra competition!

[@mackie1001]

Exciting times, this stuff looks really high quality. What's the deal with the pedal base plate? I'd be looking to replace Fanatec V1s and would ideally want something that could drop in with the same bolt hole pattern.

[@Masterleechan]

Thinking about the pedals waiting for your review

[@richtorrey6457]

I just bought a VRS and I love it. I also just got my Turn Racing wheel and button plate. The set-up is excellent. Very stiff and adjustable. I have only been using it for 3 weeks but it is awesome. The guys at VRS and Zack at Turn Racing answered all of my questions quickly. Zack who owns Turn Racing was very friendly, responsive and helpful. This set-up allows me to change out to a round wheel easily. Reliability is very important and some of the brands mentioned have let me down in the past

[@Shogoat1304]

For new sim racers this is great they have WAY WAY WAY better availability and software for their wheelbases. Especially with the r9 now. I’ve bought from fanatec their lead and shipping time is atrocious

[@XPLOSIVization]

Expensive but in this case i take my hat off to Moza, because the quality looks very good imo

[@grahaml8454]

On the paddle there was a piece missing . Had seen another video of this set up and the paddle on that side was complete.

[@Wrathh57884]

Very cool, almost made my logitech g27 cry.

[@kdub4728]

Looks good can't wait to see it in action 👍

[@Igoreka13]

Absolutely beautiful product!

[@aursecus]

I just checked the website and the images of the paddle shifters show that the left one is the same in design as the right one. Maybe yours was an early production thing.

[@sebastian_berlin]

But they sent a round rim in a package which was labelled with a d shaped wheel. It's these small things along with the missing pedal plate, that doesn't build a lot of trust into a new competitor.

[@lambolim2178]

It didn’t seem appealing, I would go for Fanatec all days unless it is priced competitively with variety of car branded wheels. I think it’s primary market are those countries that Fanatec doesn’t ship to

[@CrossfireGamingNetwork]

A lot of stuff is made in China so its not surprising that its similar.

[@benkraus3]

I don’t see a desk mount for those of us without a rig. Any idea if they’re going to offer one?

[@mattbmxer]

Oh great, more stuff I can't afford xD

[@rexbk09]

That Digital Dash screen resolution might be due to power consumption and heat. I mean, monitors never get the attention they deserve, due to the overall production limits. I'm still thinking about VR screens and lenses giving less than 150* FOV. on average...

[@MikeBobpokie]

Just looked on website and the paddle u have looks like a defect , all other images show both paddles the same. Thx for your reviews

[@boostedmedia]

Yep they’ve confirmed with me now since that it was a sample and the production versions will have both paddles the same without the gap.

[@metalgt6828]

I don't see the track outline for VIR on your wall lol...

[@timmypunt3565]

Not that I can afford any high end DD (just ordered CSL DD), but I really don't like the design of this one. Props to Monza for putting in effort, but to me it looks like a high end material version of a cheap wheel somehow, like a DD version of a TM base. It just seems too much like a toy to me. I guess I just like the 'black boxes' form format almost all DD wheels come in. On the topic of design choices, the new TM T248 wheel rim, omg! It screams 'don't play sims on this one, this is for City Car Driving or Euro Truck Simulator' to me. You'd think any non-entry-level wheel from Logitech or Thrustmaster would like to make itself appeal more to racing. But hey, maybe I'm out of touch. I didn't study marketing, only product design.

[@joaleparadisi2358]

which steering wheels are compatible with the moza? (that is not a moza steering wheel)

[@angus1881]

That’s defected paddle on up shifter , it suppose the bottom part not “open “ design

[@craiggallagher4461]

Spotted that right hand paddle straight away with the gap at the bottom making it flex, can think for the life of me why they would design it like that.

[@espressomatic]

You know what's really telling? It's been almost one year and there have been no followup videos with a review of these pedals. The review in November, promising additional pedal review and more, seems to be the end of the road. Have Moza cut Boosted Media off like they did with Karl? They seem to have gone for the look and price point, but skipped the testing and iteration needed to produce something well-rounded and robust.

[@FizznastyRacing]

How much did they steal from other companies?

[@MurrMaan11]

I think the up shift paddle is so you can have more of a "touch" feel to up shifting which imo could be smart and a non issue if it does offer a feeling of being able to upshift with a quick "flick" depending on how high you hold on the paddle. just my thought on that right paddle.

[@infamous8616]

Is a D-shaped wheel really that bad for drifting and rally? I pre-ordered a D-shaped wheel bundle kit with the hub, along with the CSL DD from Fanatec and I didn't consider the shape to be that bad on my Logitech G29 when driving touge, although the Logitech wheel doesn't have as flat of a bottom as the wheel that I purchased from Fanatec.

[@gueifaopedro]

O Knew very well Gudsen Moza in the gimbal area. their products are very very good, quality, looks and the support too. I Receive the announcement for this new area from them, and I was excited to see a review. I am waiting for my 1st DD drive from Fanatec CLS DD 8Nm, ClubSport V3 pedals and Wheel Formula V2.5 X. This is for staring my sim racing youtube channel. So just for statement the Moza brand is an excellent brand with very and professional areas all their products are 5 stars more. I have 3 gimbals and they are stunning. Excelente area they are know, for me just away from my budget, for know, but i will looking very near for these new products. Thank for the review And Gudsen Moza congrats for this new area. *The different pedal i think is a error, other reviews the 2 pedals are equals.

[@proudtoaster2118]

Is there an American company that makes their sim equipment in America? Like made in America not assembled?

[@GMCShazamataz]

Go to Dave cam unboxing video 7:17, paddle is same on both sides, not open like this wheel pictured @10:33. same money as fanatec gear but quality of lesser brands

[@NTSH443]

If the pedal baseplate is not included it would be quite misleading given its front and centre on the box.

[@boostedmedia]

Yep agreed. We’ve asked for clarification on this before the full review.

[@thierroldan]

When I see Moza I dont think of Monza. I can only think of rella.

[@redeyerob2176]

I'd murder a pizza right now

[@adamor32]

I will say it looks a lot nicer than a fanatec however appearance is not 1.5k's worth. My personal opinion is they need to lower the price as there a new (to most) wheel or what is the point on moving away from a brand you know.

[@ihababbas9863]

How these guys at Moza thinking!!! That high price makes them way less comparators to any other well known sim brands. I’ll never invest my money this way.

[@BASHERSKINZ]

I just watched Dave Cameron's video and his paddles are both the same

[@Matt_H_26]

Moza? Sounds like a VB drinking, Winnie Blue smoking bogan! :p I forgot to add one thing. His number plate is MOZA69.

[@boostedmedia]

🤣 🍻

[@rexbk09]

Love, Love, Love !!

[@Marcus-ci7ox]

would it be possible to use the steering wheel on a simagic m10?

[@darwinLee81283]

Fanatec is a German Marketing Company that sells ALL Chinese made Racing Simulation Products People really need to understand this Nothing is German engineered lol These Moza products are the same Quality parts as Fanatec! This is Equivalent to IKEA- which is also a Swedish Marketing Company that sells ALL CHINESE made furniture

[@terrylu4894]

it's strange that Moza offered the system for many English speaking content creators to review, but very few Chinese speaking content creators got the product to review. However the software is definitely not ready for the English speakers that some options in software are still in Chinese... Strange...

[@sonarcreep3691]

My issues with all these wheels is that console use is never possible. And at the end of the day it's a MASSIVE portion of the racing market... I know licencing is the mean issue. But its not like they can't get it done. So cos of this fact I'm underwhelmed with this bit of kit. The CSL DD will be the hit wheel setup.. Fanatec have smashed it out the park with this release. What a move..lol.. just got to wait for the PlayStation version to be released with GT7 and we are good to go..💪💪

[@LemtemPoktui]

Huh. They weren't kidding when they say the Chinese are taking over. 32:03, someone is definitely getting fired lol

[@destradis]

what do you think of the T-LCM pedal board thanks ..

[@smoothopsgp3994]

It's pretty solid, I had them before I switched over to Fanatec.

[@PaulisGaming]

Excellent for the price.

[@mebigbear]

I take it this won't work with consoles?????

[@dcu21]

Maybe the price could've been less $200-300 if they didn't include that gimmick wheel base design 😂😂

[@divinasi0n]

But but you drive faster with all that aero..

[@MrUltraworld]

More interesting products from China.

[@taxi615]

This is a really good step as a first try if they supported consoles I would give them a try

[@Tonstar147]

Did the wheel have a usb socket? I couldn't see one

[@boostedmedia]

No none that I can see.

[@regibson23]

So since no one is driving these I'm guessing the company has banned this from its reviews? An odd decision to release them just for unboxing. Driver issues? Definitely doesn't foster confidence.

[@Zee20Ate]

That paddle is the most peculiar idea I’ve seen. Unless there is a really good explanation that is just silly.

[@adil1087]

waiting for look inside

[@boostedmedia]

Will definitely be covering this on our full review soon :)

[@adil1087]

@@boostedmedia that's the most interesting part for us who like DIY

[@blairwalton4456]

I think with your wheel you got a older model as you go to their website and both paddles are the same and doesn't have that cut out peace that you were saying will be a weak point

[@boostedmedia]

Possibly. I’ve asked them for clarification before we do the full review.

[@bertram-raven]

I'm thinking the load-cell is fake.

[@nanwang4852]

I bet you can't feel the stage 1/2 on the clutch.

[@Treyway0813]

Hey will👋

[@dennyalfro9832]

Bro can you possibly make a heel toe downshifting video bruv please but with a good view of your legs and sh9ifting

[@agag206abc]

squishy… boosted media reviews this is the word that comes up most 😅

[@dimsoneill]

Need to drop their pricing a bit to compensate for Chinese made. Some questions of long term quality there. Screen rez is a bit of a joke. Hope they bring out the post Will review version!😉

[@Milkman4538]

SOLD, can I get a coupon🙃

[@dufey1969]

my DD1 power supply js the same as the DD2

[@pwsmanowar]

I'm not feeling those pedals at all. The brake looks like a nightmare to swap polymers. The front screw-holes are just round and not elongated. The faces are Fanatec ripoffs without the adjustability... and the throttle face is weird.

[@paulrubens3048]

Logitech canceled its Direct Drive after watching this video...hahahahaaa

[@mgoohpaanl]

I think Fanatec is better ..... Well established and great performance .... I will stick with the Fanatec ecosystem ..... after CSL DD , HELLL YEAHHHH

[@arcelivez]

I literally read Monza...

[@steveracer1985]

This is definitely not worth the asking price...also that abysmal resolution 15$ display sold for 550$ ? Are you f*kin kidding me? From a chinese brand? Are these people serious? 🤦 I would be pretty upset with the glue residues on a 600$ wheel as well!

[@hanjarake_taro]

It's Huawei in sim racing!

[@billwiley7216]

Main issue is what if this product does not meet the manufacturers sales goals and they abandon the product and shut it down? Sorry, at this point more risk than reward. I do not have a problem with the company being Chinese at all as many WELL MADE PC game controllers are produced by Chinese companies but no track record as of yet for this company. Also since you were given these items free of charge you have no idea what this company will be like as far as speed of fulfilling and shipping orders, customer service or warranty issues. Expectations can be whatever you want them to be but until this brand has been around long enough to establish their own track record for their products and their customer service why should consumers take the risk to switch from more established brands? Its surely not because they are offering a great price or their products do what the more established brands are not already doing.

[@MarkSegalotto2009]

"Cluth" is that alarm signal for "chinese crap"

[@axelode45]

Not a fan of the styling. Looks like a cheap and tacky copy of Fanatec.

[@darwinLee81283]

Fanatec is a German Marketing Company that sells ALL Chinese made Racing Simulation Products People really need to understand this Nothing is German engineered lol These are the same Quality parts as Fanatec

[@TheWunder]

Moza means tasty

[@Alex_1652]

MOZA is Magic Grip in chinese, nothing to do with Monza

[@JubbLaRacing]

Expensive

[@RichAbe23]

Looks like the CCP entering this sim racing space. SMH.