MPC3 update will have Track Mutes

[@mpchead]

Drum Loops mpchead.com/products/drums-2023 Weekly samples www.patreon.com/mpchead

[@obscuresoundz]

good new; big up marlow for expressing honest feedback on the mpc 3.0

[@mpchead]

🙏🏼

[@powderedtoastman3093]

Mutes is a must. Blocks of midi also rather than lines of dots

[@AllOutOnline]

Yea where you could mute blocks like how it does with audio.

[@rodriquezbailey1832]

Great job Marlow I feel the same way that you expressed. Glad to see that Andy watched your review as well. One love my brother thx for always staying on point.!!!!

[@mpchead]

@@rodriquezbailey1832 🙏🏼

[@s.gharavi1614]

Thank goodness!! Track mutes are a must.

[@TheNextExit]

Mpc 3 needs the "medieval mode" now. The latest thing.

[@avace917]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 That Teenage Engineering piece is hysterical

[@curtisthacreator2231]

That shit from TE is so dumb to me the only things I like from them is the op1 field and the mixer

[@Laze-Mz]

@@curtisthacreator2231 po s are pretty fun

[@curtisthacreator2231]

@@Laze-Mz their fun but that’s about it not for doing any serious work imo

[@EVILJAMARR]

That medieval sh*t sounds so terrible, ugly design as well. Awful all around. I’ll keep my op1f tho.

[@davidscott2095]

Thank you for advocating on our behalf. Much love, Marlow!

[@carbonvibes]

Thanks for sharing Marlow, shoutout to Andy 🫡

[@jonpaulhollingsworth4732]

That's a relief, great community, thanks for airing your honesty. Good work

[@lonnieclark8818]

Love the Cookin Soul hat. Love the update. Love it all.

[@mpchead]

Yay! Thank you!

[@jorhay1]

I like your explanation of Tracks and Programs. So many people saying “There are no more programs, only tracks” , “Akai has completely gotten rid of programs” , “Programs are now called Tracks” etc You can still create new programs and add to your library. When one is in a drum or Keygroup track, when one presses save, one will have an option to save the drum or Keygroup that’s connected to the track, as a program. I have no idea why so few people are explaining this. It’s mainly just, “Programs are now called tracks” which not 100% true. It’s more like, “Programs are now tied to tracks”

[@bosbolo]

Like Drum Racks (or Simpler) are within tracks in Ableton?

[@KeithKemp]

Agreed. Waaay too many blockhead "producers" on YT that just can't grasp this concept/over-explaining.

[@ThaBeatBuffet]

The Sequence workflow allows for more flexibility and it also lets you be more creative

[@teashea1]

Andy is great.

[@Harlem-Instrumental]

Tefty already said last week that Akai was going to bring mutes back. Nice to get the official word from Andy. I don’t use that workflow, but I'm glad they didn’t take it away for you guys who like it.

[@mpchead]

🙏🏼great to hear we can all exist in this system

[@Harlem-Instrumental]

@mpchead Users should have the option to work the way they've working while the device grow & offer new workflows. As a Force user, I think most will benefit from the cleaner & more organized workflow of MPC3. Some will only hate how much they love it!

[@Usul]

I am so jazzed over this release. It looks amazing. I love hearing Marlow's perspective because it feels like it is just making it better and better.

[@MPCandGuitar]

The program thing seems to be the main complaint I’m seeing all over the place. I love being able to switch programs while playing back the track to see what the melody sounds like on a different sound.

[@mpchead]

Is that when using plugin tracks?

[@MPCandGuitar]

@@mpchead ya or drum kits I have different kits set up in the same pad configurations for example. I set up all my kits the same. I can switch’s kits or whatever. I run multiple MPCs at once and I track mute live sets and I’m able to switch things. I guess If the plug-ins are switchable its one step less redundant. Also I’ve got all these live sets set up for playing guitar and vocals into audio tracks. I’m wondering how the audio track section is going to pan out if they’ll still be in order. Check out a coupe of my videos you’ll see I’m in deep on the midi connectors and the audio section too. If I want to switch midi outport from A to B does it erase the midi data from A? What if I have 3 external synths I want to switch between? Maybe I’ll not upgrade 3.0. I only got the x because the trim function was faster than the 5000. It was like a step up on the sampling. I probably won’t even use the linear editing. I use the buttons

[@AllOutOnline]

@Marlow Digs here is my issue… If I load up 10 drum programs, now it’s going to load up 10 tracks, and I might not want to use 10 tracks… but I like to preview the sounds in the different programs on a single track so at the end of the session im going to have to delete every track I dont use which I lose time doing… Andy can say well you dont wanna load up all of that in ram but it shouldn’t be loading to RAM in the first place, this is exactly what Disk Streaming is supposed to solve. Quit loading into RAM and just stream from disk. I went over this with Akai back in 2012 and 2013 when they started working on it… Thanks Marlow for making these vids and keeping the dialogue with Akai open. Let’s see if we can get them to integrate the old workflow a little more into the new… theres room for both.

[@RGLion2]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnOco4htr9hnl5osi=ApZVhgMOLUrCql5y

[@s.gharavi1614]

I do exactly the same thing. Except I have 3-4x as many because I want maximum options. And then I delete that I didn't use. I think there's going to be a need to be better planned and organized for 3.0.

[@vondebarrow888]

Appreciate, I had the same concerns , I started on the 90s took forever to learn song mode without having KZbin videos, now I put whole songs together literally in minutes thru song mode.... I can work with the rest

[@pachacache5186]

Thx Mr Marlow 👍

[@HubertCopeland-mu3eh]

Akai should keep the Legacy of Programs, because that modern MPC SE, you have has that PROGRAM & PROGRAM /Edit Buttons....that makes the unit look silly 😮, ooops did Akai forgot that 😜 for those units that got the dedicated function like the One,X😮😮😮😮😮😅😅😅😂😂😂

[@5thelementalsounds]

That's great news!!!

[@mpchead]

💯🔥🔥

[@davidcooke779]

Great stuff that Andy responded so quickly.

[@BeatsNBed]

Glad your voice was heard man!

[@TeraGreene1]

❤❤❤❤ same. Our “mpchead” OG Papa Bear is the best in the game and deserves to be heard. 😊

[@engin3ar]

Great news. Really don't want to lose track mutes!

[@mpchead]

💯🙏🏼

[@moniak59000]

Excellent news! I was so disapointed with the problem of track mute! But now this news change everithing! I will use the 3.0 finally! Many thanks Marlow for your help! And thanks to Andy and Akai too! 😉

[@mpchead]

Yes definitely changes everything. Let's go 3.0

[@RAWDILLZ]

Much props to Marlow and Andy on this one. This was a huge question I've been wanting some clarification on. 🫡

[@mpchead]

@@RAWDILLZ 🔥🔥🔥

[@rhondofromjersey9709]

Nah that program problem is def a deal breaker. I use multiple programs on different tracks every beat. And my template has 668 drums ready to go.

[@TeraGreene1]

Right?! It’s a bit of a creativity block the way they are rolling this out. ❤

[@rhondofromjersey9709]

@@TeraGreene1 that is literally the only problem . Everything else is a go

[@PeteOnTheBeat]

Nice man! Thank you!!

[@teashea1]

good video. you have a good, balanced style.

[@mpchead]

🙏🏼

[@Groovechnnl]

I think we're gonna be cool, we'll find different ways to use that Arrange window once we get into it too. Being able to mute midi is a must though. Glad they're leaving Song mode. Gonna miss trying different drum programs on the same seq but I guess I can copy the midi to another track. If they could make a function to "Swap" different programs on the Same track then we're golden. Thanks for let them know Marlow.

[@TeraGreene1]

I feel you. ❤

[@gushrecords106]

thanks for that great news

[@ShupiPie]

I also want to work as you said - use track mutes, arrange sequences into a song and then export to arranger mode. Hopefully once we can do this, you'll do a video showing how. I'm not updating to 3.0 until then. I have too many ongoing projects and deadlines to start a whole new workflow

[@Laze-Mz]

Thanks Marlow

[@mpchead]

🙏🏼

[@mikoajczeski1272]

We definitely need more audio tracks available. It would be nice to create sequences and finally transfer them to the arranger and add or remove various "tastes". It would be nice to add some transitions, risers or reverse hi-hats to the arrangement, which would end when the next sequence enters, and this is much easier when we have it in an audio track, where the end of the sound is clearly visible. Since we can stream from disk, it is possible to increase the number of available audio tracks? Then even individual plug-in tracks could also be transferred to audio. I would also like the sequences in the arranger to be visualized as individual blocks, which, if necessary, could be polished by returning to the sequence from the arranger. The MPC screen is too small to create the entire song structure from scratch only in the arranger.

[@pianoyan]

These are all good suggestions, and I hope we see features like these in the final version.

[@Will4thapeople]

🔥 just what I needed to hear. Needed them track mutes and song mode just need the arranger for the visual and last minute tweaks. Thank marlow

[@red_onex--x808]

good info , beats sound fire 🔥🔥

[@mpchead]

Thanks 🔥

[@DopamineOverload]

Excellent news.

[@robertleighton1896]

Good work, track mutes was worth complaining about. Even if the plan was to add it back, it still worth highlighting how important this feature is to the MPC workflow. It would be like removing clip launcher from Ableton. Anyways good update!

[@mpchead]

Is always good to speak on things that matter to our workflow.

[@French_Canadian_Pea_Soup]

Ave Mcree gonna stop laughing at my dude!

[@jackbauer1805]

Ave is a 🤡... Something is wrong with that mfer

[@TeraGreene1]

I know. Ave was uncalled for shading like that. But, the truth always prevails. ❤

[@sweeterthananything]

frankly who cares? marlow is in a different genre in that he makes videos that are actually more informative/thought-provoking than they are obnoxious.

[@French_Canadian_Pea_Soup]

@@sweeterthananything I don't like when creators think they're above others. Instead of laughing he should've tried to understand what he meant. Btw Marlow proved him wrong by being reached by Andy about track mutes.

[@MyNameJeff..]

Ave Mcree is a cretan

[@juliusperseus8612]

I Wish Andy Mac would explain, what's Behind the Workflow Changing ? What is AKAI Objectives doing these changes ?

[@TeraGreene1]

To make it “easy” for new customers to come on board. Bottomline: money and lazy newcomers who don’t want to learn the workflow because it’s “too hard” versus legacy and dedicated heads who are willing to “practice makes better” until we are in good flow. But, that’s just speculation, of course. 😅😊

[@juliusperseus8612]

@@TeraGreene1 That insistence that Big Company have to change just To Change is Really Fucking Annoying !

[@KeithKemp]

@@TeraGreene1 What you said. 6 million wannabee producers that can't wait to load a trap kit and then 6 months later sell you a zip file of "chops" on their Patreon account

[@s.gharavi1614]

Akai MUST make the MPC compete better with DAWs or they won't have the revenue growth to continue developing the program. And there isn't really a major workflow change. But it does make people have to be better organized with what programs they want to use or they'll end up with a ton more tracks.

What about Clip? Thats the only feature I use on the MPC to play live gigs. Would be a shame, if we lose it.

[@user-hl9rw4ww9o]

Thank you for clarifying about the upcoming MPC 3 update 🙏 shame tracks and programs will be tied together, but at least mutes, song mode and drum programs still exist, and plenty of decent new features.

[@avace917]

I can verify the Reason Blocks workflow. I use Reason along with the MPC Software and they mirror each other.

[@mpchead]

I never used it but looks like a great system for the mpc song mode

[@avace917]

@@mpchead previous to using Reason and the release of the MPC Renaissance, I used every MPC except for the 500 and 5000. Once Reason version 5 came out with Blocks, I was able to revert back to the MPC style of composition with the addition of the DAW type of workflow. Then once Reason was able to host VSTs, I grabbed the MPC Touch and had the best of both worlds. Now I have to MPC One Plus and I've never been happier. 3.0 should work for me. I'll wait it out until the desktop software gets the upgrade

[@ILLUDIUM_Q_36]

Great news. Yes your program workflow is like mine. I’m sure many of us share in that. It gave us a lot of control knowing where an alteration was and where we could automate its input via TRACKMUTES. So with that, I already have a work around in mind that will allow us to still have that variable control. Can you tell me if pad-mutes will make to 3.0? Thank you for being the voice of the voiceless. It’s easy to be a “YES-MAN” and just go with the flow even if it messes up yours. But stepping out and speaking up takes courage. Thank you.

[@mpchead]

Yeah I was thinking the same about pad mutes although is not exactly the same it will work (I haven't tried it yet) pad mutes are still there

[@ILLUDIUM_Q_36]

@@mpcheadbeautiful! You think copying the color of a pad to the new pad as well. One less step. 🤷🏾‍♂️ I see more when they release the public beta. Thanks again.

[@TeraGreene1]

❤❤❤❤

[@clayalston7960]

Great!!!

[@ralfmoss]

Superb news 🎉🎉🎉

[@teashea1]

excellent

[@geoffwidmier3714]

It’s probably good that y’all are freaking out about the beta, because Akai seems to do a good job of listening to the people.

[@mpchead]

That's the whole point about talking about things that matter to us.

[@Hostage1914]

Question will you make a 3.0 tutorial for purchase?

[@mpchead]

I don't think I will

[@eltripps9684]

If song mode and timeline mode are both fully what we'd like, Ableton will no longer have a place in my workflow.

[@geoffwidmier3714]

That is what I’m thinking. The only reason I would continue using Ableton is because I can have a bunch of audio and midi tracks all armed at the same time. I don’t think you can do that with the MPC, but please correct me if I am wrong.

[@TeraGreene1]

Exactly. ❤❤❤

[@s.gharavi1614]

MPC must become more like a genuine DAW of it's going to continue, so that's what they're doing. However, actual DAWs will always be ahead.

[@red_onex--x808]

facts i got use to a personal track mute flow build sequencally , and not sure if a arranger mode will fit my prior style.. go to node there could be an option to have it preform similar to 2.15 legacy 🔥🔥🔥

[@SenseiIceman]

Nice every body wanted the track mutes so they're going to add it in

[@corbusiermuc3426]

Different track mutes in different sequences are not possible any more. So doing a song by taking a sequence, copying the sequence muting/unmuting tracks, copy the sequence again and so on and finally building a song out of these sequences doesn´t work in the beta. So the whole fast workflow of 2.x is gone for me.

[@MyNameJeff..]

You know, the last video you did I was annoyed because it’s like this - being a long time NI user, and never getting updates (a logo!) Akai and NI are night and day. I got the love 2 in 2020 along side the maschine plus, and Akai has just constantly updated it, given us free plugins and have listened to us! While NI has done absolutely nothing. So hearing complaints about 3.0 was just annoying to me. But I agreed with you about track mutes, and Andy and Akai are just solid people for responding and listening to us.

[@craftform]

What would make it even speedy to build an arrangement, would be if the clip grid functionality of the force was included in MPC 3.0. There could be a seperate overview screen of the 64 pad matrix. The pad bank selection buttons could select which of the 16 pads buttons you were currently using (imagine the 64 grid divided into 4 quadrants) or you could plug in a grid controller like the APC mini or APC64 controller.

[@mpchead]

Why not just use the force?

[@craftform]

@@mpchead I already have an MPC and it would be more portable, but they made a smaller version of the force that would be good too!

[@taydonwatson8217]

Thank you for addressing this problem. It's foolish of many users to think that these problems will be addressed without complaints. This is why companies have complaint departments. This company is not the original Akai. They aren't concerned about supporting the product first. There are concerned with trying to attract new customers. Remember that it's all about making money for Akai pro

[@TeraGreene1]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@tomdunn6416]

Thanks for being awesome Marlow. Any news on a visual equalizer coming out? Seems like that's one of the common requests I hear all the time. Glad they reached out to you and confirmed some items. Drop that beat!

[@mpchead]

Unfortunately they don't give me any information. They just send me updates

[@wiggesobk]

That would be really nice!

[@tomdunn6416]

@@wiggesobk you doing the beats thing? Maybe we should grind them on the feedback?

[@wiggesobk]

@@tomdunn6416 I'm not sure what you mean. Yeah i make beats.

[@tomdunn6416]

@@wiggesobk beta thing. Auto correct. Grind Akai for a visual EQ.

[@crazypopbeats]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@djJustJay]

So, we can still make sequences and then arrange in song mode?! Is that what he is saying? I def do not like the arrangement or timeline way of doing things, its way too small of a window. Also, as a power user who pushes the limits of my mpc, i wont upgrade without the software to utilize all my plug ins in my beat making process. Idk i def like not using as much ram, that part is good but it seems so wonky compared to mpc2.

[@mpchead]

Yes that is it. Same workflow as before.

[@TeraGreene1]

Song mode is the way to go. Glad they are bring back our track mutes … I will wait until that happens before switching. Hope they make 2.0 projects actually open properly with 3.0 projects. Been hearing that’s a nightmare. I am just from the cloth, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” I get Akai is trying to cater to new people, but we all had to learn the workflow environment, without being coddled. It’s a shame we are losing a lot of flow to make MPC “easy” for people who don’t want to actually work on their craft, but I guess that’s the way of the world. I, too, will be doing song mode/track mutes when 3 gets “fixed”, and then hitting arranger. Saves me from bouncing my songs into Ableton to finish arranging them. And again, thanks for all you’ve done for me since I picked up my LIVE in 2019. I’m over 1000 songs in… mostly because of song mode and track mutes 😅❤

[@PreciseSense85]

Hopefully they keep adding Legacy features. That'll help the transition into version 3

[@christianthompson1473]

And computer mode? I guess the mpc can still behave as the midi controller for desktop projects, even when updated to v3?

[@followthewaytaylor5872]

Well done Marlow 👍🏾 what do you think about a 8 band graphic eq like in ableton or fabfilter? I do hope we will get one .

[@mauriziomauricone]

Could you please check the custom midi note pad layout issue in V3 pretty please? In the Grid editor touching any of the Pad numbers assigned to the new midi note number on the screen no longer select those notes. It does so with standard layouts. Hitting the pad will select the custom midi notes though.

[@rnbmusic621]

I still don’t see the sequence track mutes!!!!!

[@mpchead]

Still not there, still waiting

[@UnpopularOpinion42]

I trust Akai knows what’s up. This is just beta, not to mention 3.0. There will be so many updates going forward. These changes are a little jarring though I admit.

[@VinylWave11]

I have a question: is the standalone plugging Air Vocal Distortion NEW? I can’t find it in the Akai store and it only gives me the option for 10day trial on my MPC X SE. I found this plugging while installing the new Sub Factory.

[@Trioptic3D]

I just hope they add "containers" to midi tracks so they can be treated more like audio in arrangement mode.

[@mpchead]

Akai force arrangement came out 4 years ago. People have been asking for midi regions since then.

[@stefanschanzenbacher9513]

Hey there, do you know any adress where i can send in feature requests?

[@mpchead]

I think you need to sign up for the beta

[@stefanschanzenbacher9513]

@@mpchead signed up, but it is not available yet...this is something i wanted for the MPC 2 live as it is by now: - Able to use my 1010 Bluebox as an external audio interface...no connection possible for now. - The possibility to switch off the instant touch- feature - The ability to use mmc and timecode input WITH ableton link enabled

[@LUCKYMONKEY230]

Question : will Clip launch still be included in MPC 3 ? I've been building an MPC standalone live set and I'm sad to see it was left out. I hoped they would actually improve it 😢

[@abelchristian951]

So we can't add Individual samples like we do on drum programs

[@mpchead]

Yes you can, it works just the same

[@abelchristian951]

@@mpchead awesome

[@KelvinK_GrassRootsRecords]

Marlow, have you experienced any difference in the speed of projects / effects etc. loading with 3.0 vs. 2.0, or any general bugginess? (After I loaded stems standalone, the MPC live 2 sometimes does not recognize my external drive, which is where I downloaded stems to.)

[@touthowzander]

Instead of plugin tracks controlling programs, does the midi track now do that function, so you can have multiple midi tracks hitting one program?

[@alberto.tovar.79]

I guess you can create a new midi track and send It to the track with the drum program

[@bogard08]

💪🏾😎

[@cratecult]

will the update be available as software too?

[@mpchead]

Not sure, akai hasn't said anything about that yet.

[@jackbauer1805]

That's not coming until next year on computer. For now just stand alone.

[@cratecult]

@@mpchead cool thanks!

[@wul01]

What about clip programs?

[@mpchead]

Nothing so far

[@TannerByTheSea]

Beta is going to glitch with the times ? - I guess we got a glitch with the times~ 😉 I’m not giving up on MPC Bruddah…

[@MiKEYFRESHBEATZ_MGMPrintz]

Inspired 💪🏽

[@histakes12]

MPC 3 “MIDI Regions” please!

[@BenjaminGordon1]

programs not being switchable per track is a big loss for me. its simply going to slow me down having to go into the browser over and over again :(

[@mpchead]

I don't understand that comment or maybe there's something that you haven't understood about the update. Can you please elaborate?

[@BenjaminGordon1]

@@mpchead im just re-iterating what the community is saying about having only 1 PGM per track loaded. You can no longer switch/scroll through different PGMs on the same track, you have to go back into the browser and load the one you want. The current (OS2) workflow thats always been there since the beginning is faster than having to go into the browser multiple times just to find the right kit because you cant load them all in first. I really hope they re-consider this. Does that make more sense? :)

[@teashea1]

If one wants to use a program twice, one press duplicated the track in 3.

[@OckwordProductions]

🫡

[@ihelsabot]

Who makes that shirt?

[@Ancaja123]

I don’t know how else they’re gonna do this…maybe your Track (program) can store different “takes” and those would be like track mutes. Idk

[@geoffwidmier3714]

Aren’t drum kits the same as programs?

[@mpchead]

Yes

[@lamonthunt3063]

This MPC 3.0 software is a no to me...Akai still have not said if they will release a desk top version, yet it is not explained how you could incorporate MPC 3.0 into Logic Pro, Pro Tools, or any other DAW that is on the market. This whole idea is incomplete In my opinion. Akai shouldn't of released this beta version without any answers on a desk top version. Still a whole lot of questions to this update.. So I say for Akai to jump into an area that they have not defined as of yet is a big mistake, I like all the improvements Akai has made to the MPC Line....this right here is a bit much..

[@thecreepysilence4290]

MPC 3 will definitly the best update

[@MyNameJeff..]

Akai is awesome for this. NI would never do this. They haven’t even listened to any of our requests since 2012.

[@czorakownik]

So Akai is giving for user tool which is far away from full funcionality? How serious this company is?

[@stef_kob]

Thats why its called beta 😄

[@czorakownik]

@@stef_kob Yes, i know that its called beta. I know also that about this topic there is more rumor in the web than about olimpic games….

[@stef_kob]

@@czorakownik dont make me wrong i think akai are kind of lost my first mpc was a 60 more than 30 years ago…

[@tommeke5761]

I think loopop (or maybe someone else) mentioned the possibility of routing midi tracks to the track which holds the program (as a workaround regarding the programs issue)

[@Harlem-Instrumental]

You can use a dummy drum track, which would line up better to the drum track with the samples that your MIDI sending it to.

[@tommeke5761]

@@Harlem-Instrumental Indeed, drum midi tracks aren't exactly the same. Good point..

[@Harlem-Instrumental]

@@tommeke5761Thanks for paying attention.

[@ankii84]

anybody knows when the public beta is going to drop?

[@sinewaymusic]

I think the new Arranger will serve its purpose after you've messed around with separate sequences and built a structure using song mode. It would have been nice of you could see the current song as a set of sequences too for sure (i.e. the ability to switch the Arranger view to showing the current sequence or the song). Who knows, maybe they will eventually update the Song window to be a bit more visual along the lines of the Arranger. But what would *really* make a difference is if they contained the resulting midi "clips" per track into blocks so you could drag them around on the timeline. So, rather than showing individual dots per note, draw a container box around each 4 bars or so and allow them to be dragged around. Basically copy Reason here too. 😊