Mr Beat Confronts Destiny On His Israel Take

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[@LastNightDestiny]

Check out Mr Beat ►www.youtube.com/@iammrbeat

[@moah2012]

Jeez, Mr Bean is incorrect to call Israel an "theocracy". Has he been to Israel? I have. Many jews aren't even religious. Being a jew is an ethnicity and a religion. Before universalizing religions like Christianity or Islam, religions belong to a people & culture. There are religious Jews and non religious Jews, but regardless being Jewish is also an ethnicity. When you DNA tests on Middle eastern, European, or Indian jews you see a common ancestry to the middle east

[@garethmagis]

@@moah2012 ok.

[@InlandDiscoEmpire]

You're delusional if you think Biden's Foreign policy has been good. You mean just on this or IN GENERAL. In this it's been meh because he HAD to be (NEITHER side really wants a war) and IN GENERAL it's been horrible. Come on, Destiny, you KNOW you're in denial there. Same with eve being a decent president, are leftists really STILL infected with TDS? Are mean tweets REALLY that important to you over a literal senile puppet?

[@InlandDiscoEmpire]

It really is scary to see just HOW much leftists excuse.

[@nedbigby9694]

Your talking about a political group whose majority thinks Mao was good. The brainwashing is hard and scary to break. @@InlandDiscoEmpire

[@Maxarcc]

What I like about mr. beat is that he has outspoken political opinions without making them his entire online identity. He seems like a reasonable dude that thinks things through.

[@bakeurstew1434]

he got me through highschool, love the guy

[@kylerBD]

@@bakeurstew1434 Did he hold your hand? wtf you mean he got you through highschool

[@PlumpSort]

​@@kylerBDHe held my hair when I puked into the toilet.

[@BananaPhoPhilly]

@@PlumpSortWhat a wholesome guy 🥰🥺

[@bakeurstew1434]

@@kylerBD he was a shit ton of the curriculum for my online classes

[@brodi4523]

Mr Beat was my APUSH teacher in High School hes genuinely the sweetest man ever

[@tkdcoastskater9809]

That must have been a great class!

[@rico14]

I can see he’s a good soul 😊

[@Malcio]

Your one lucky man

[@mrdestructoo]

COOL

[@theophany4935]

Mr. Beat is refreshing because he isn't a bad actor. He's genuinely a good dude that is trying to find out the truth. The fact that he even knows when to make concessions makes him seem far more genuine than the vast majority of people on this topic.

[@daffyuser]

between two good faith actors, there never really need be such a thing as concessions

[@CousinBowling]

Hes bought and paid for and youtube's golden boy

[@viderevero1338]

@@CousinBowling Bought by who?

[@CousinBowling]

@viderevero1338 not sure but he certainly follows every single mainstream narrative and gets recommended no matter how many times I try to block his channel

[@theophany4935]

@@CousinBowling Not the most solid evidence lol

[@frOODAloops]

Mr Beat! Oh shit the avengers are assembling

[@13wayz70]

Now thats the liberalism coalition i want to see

[@youtubeviolatedme7123]

"That's my secret, Cap. I'm always liberal."

[@ThePixelated_kris]

Vlogging through history appears 💀

[@MegaAnimeforlife]

The liberal avengers lmao

[@astronova3508]

@@ThePixelated_kris hes conservative tho

[@The_Daliban]

Mr BEAT, i read Beast👌🏻😅

[@walterwang4669]

Just think, there is an alternative timeline where that actually happens…

[@kkistbh824]

Me too

[@limitedhangoutlive]

You and everyone else. August isn’t stupid.

[@VintageBassArchive]

Jaco Pastorius is the greatest jazz electric bass player

[@macrou]

Same here 😂

[@BeauxJackson]

It’s always cool to see Mr.Beat

[@davenunyabusiness4893]

He is a joke. He blathered on and didn't say anything of substance.

[@BeauxJackson]

@@davenunyabusiness4893 sick, no one asked

[@redaderoua8816]

@@davenunyabusiness4893 Him showing up to restore destiny's clock because of how much destiny have been trying to stand out from all "crazy progressives" out there and all the fighting and disagreeing he's had with them which absolutely affects someone's bias and view of a group and they're beliefs ia much needed Because I think him seeing people cheering after the attack gave him a new outlook and pushed him away from a pro Palestinian view because his bias became to not associate with those people as much as possible on this issue.

[@zklpr4661]

@@davenunyabusiness4893 Not really. He gave a lot of valuable pushback.

[@telademise]

I am so mad that people like Destiny and Mr. Beat do not get the recognition for what they do and say on such important topics.

[@voltage80x]

Destiny said, “Why don’t the civilians of Palestine rise against Hamas?” How insane is that to say in this situation? That’s the same as saying, “Americans didn’t overthrow their government during the Iraq war, so they all deserve to be blown up.” That’s how it sounds; it’s a ridiculous statement to make. Also, most people in Gaza were babies or not born when Hamas was elected in 2006. Destiny has just enough knowledge on the subject to get more innocent Palestinians killed.

[@Gr8whitemonster]

They’re online streamers…their opinions carry as much weight as the next guy on the street.

[@voltage80x]

@@Gr8whitemonster I wish but the more people who notice how badly the media lies, will turn somewhere. Many begin and end their news consumption with a single streamer.

[@Gr8whitemonster]

@@voltage80x Yes, children who derive their identities from the vibes and aesthetics of streamers that have next to no idea what they’re talking about (not referring to Destiny or Mr. Beast here, but many others) and, most importantly, do not actually vote in any significant numbers.

[@funkyshade]

It’s because people usually think about these things with emotions and not logic and facts. It’s easier to get riled up by extreme people who shout and think everything is clear cut and simple

[@ibbyseed]

Me beat is a legend. reminds me of my middle school science teacher. he has that nostalgic school teacher warmth

[@telademise]

I would love for more/consistent crossovers with Destiny and Mr Beat.

[@unclebobboomergames]

Someone whos opinions on historical matters i trust conversing with someone whos opinions i trust on current affiars. Beautiful

[@betohax]

This whole narrative that only old people are getting dumber and more radical while young people are critically thinking is unbelievable. Has Mr Beat ever been on tik tok?

[@Immor7alBG]

There's also a staunch difference in radicalism between a stable country vs an unstable one, especially if the stable country is a world power on top of that. It's really easy to take a moderate stance when your home isn't under constant threat and to appeal to morality, but if your position in the world is shaky at best, all of that flies out the window. That's probably the biggest issue with a 2 state solution, neither side will ever feel secure enough with the amount of friction that exists between them.

[@user-sk4ds1rg1z]

I saw a stat somewhere that young people are now many times more likely than the elderly to fall for scams online. Their critical thinking skills are non-existent fr.

[@redaderoua8816]

​@@Immor7alBG Israel has pretty much all the power cards, is the one with a clearer better state of mind, with better resources and life in general as to be more understanding and empathtic enough to invest in working something out instead of keeping the abused shackled monster in a locked cage that breaks out every month hurting and killing people outside, That's why Israel has to at least get a more moderate or even a left leaning leader to bridge some holistic peaceful solution and that's why I put more responsibility and emphasis on the israeli side.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

​@@user-sk4ds1rg1z I just looked it up and the FTC said the most common "targets" are 30-44 years old followed by 60+.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

​@@user-sk4ds1rg1z For a different thing young people are only more likely to fall for an online-shopping scam. Otherwise older people are more likely to fall for every other type of scam.

[@colemessina195]

The chat is braindead

[@Stratocaster42]

'Show us the guns' That was unexpected. Cool convo and a nice guy! With some basic hairstyling hed go from nerd to gigachad

[@toxicwaltz0863]

He is a good lookin dude

[@governmentghost01]

@@toxicwaltz0863 nahhh lmaoo

[@kxi529]

mr beat is awesome, been following him for a long time, great guy

[@brknsh6689]

Guys who is better mr beat or mr beast?

[@brknsh6689]

Mr beat

[@brknsh6689]

Mr beast

[@id1550]

@@brknsh6689Mr breast

[@CRWeaventure]

@@brknsh6689Mr. Beat meat

[@BDKoala]

Name a more wholesome dude than Mr Beat.

[@Lateralmove]

literally anyone that does not live in a lala land of one state solution.

[@DaDARKPass]

I always love when Mr Beat is around. He's simply a great guy.

[@charleynewman5057]

Whoa! Mr. Beat with Destiny! Not totally an unexpected crossover, but it's very cool regardless!

[@ennieminee4470]

Mr. Beat strikes me as a guy who preaches about nuance but some of his comments seem to be very surface level and lacking said nuance.

[@user-sk4ds1rg1z]

He's doing the thing where he's sneakily trying to move Destiny over to his side without having a real debate about it. Both-sidesing a lot and that sort of thing.

[@Cornchip445]

Yall need to hop off. Beat is the goat and knows his stuff

[@hectorhernandez7389]

What are you talking about? His whole point he made multiple times is that people simplify these issues too often. He took college level classes and still said he wasn’t an expert. His main ask was for people to approach this with nuance.

[@ennieminee4470]

@@hectorhernandez7389 his reference of the nakba seemed to gloss over the literal war that was occurring over the same time period. He hopes for a one state solution yet didn’t acknowledge that a significant portion of the Palestinian population support “from the river to the sea” He references vice videos giving him insight but idk how you view vice but they’re pretty pro-Palestinian in my opinion. It’s like he doesn’t understand how Israelis would feel like they have to be extremely tough on Palestinians due to their history of being attacked by their Muslim neighbors.

[@hectorhernandez7389]

@@ennieminee4470 this is what Destiny is allowing to fester in his community at this point. Yes, Israel has faced their own form of a genocide in the past at the hands of Germany and past that they had the Arab Israeli war. During that first war 6,000 Israelis were killed. Then the 6 day war left 800 Israelis dead. Then the yom kippaur surprise attack that killed 2,000. You have the intifadas which was Palestinians going in and suicide bombing Israeli civilians. But the casualties Palestinians have suffered are in the 10s of thousands not including this most recent war which is at 7,000 with 3,000 of those being children. Israeli nationalism needs to be put in check because Palestinians have suffered extensively at their hands. There has never been an offer from Israel to Palestine solidifying a proper Palestinian state and all the offers from Palestinians that address this have been denied. When on one side you have suicide bombings, stabbings, kidnappings and on the other side you have the 4th most powerful military in the world, with an iron dome and nuclear capabilities. You kinda have to put things into context. They also have the major backing from the US that funds them.

[@mikasasukasa4479]

I've been away from this channel for a bit and this guy seems positively talked about. I'll enjoy this one.

[@yungjeezy5232]

Mr. Beast debates Destiny about the ethics of suicide in Minecraft

[@DrStrangelove_]

His prescription for the Confederate statues issue is probably the simplest best idea I've ever heard. Museum is the perfect middle ground.

[@trout3685]

The best idea you ever heard? Wow..

[@DrStrangelove_]

@@trout3685 for that situation... as highlighted by "his PRESCRIPTION for CONFEDERATE STATUES" and combined with the word "SIMPLEST" ... Anybody who is not subhuman can put those words together and know what I actually meant.... Wow

[@davidwilliams6966]

Speaking of, how is Lincoln not top 5 Prez?

[@aaaaaaaaaa7699]

Destiny is curiously unconcerned with Palestinians losing there homeland at all. Weird?

[@marksmanmerc1]

What homeland? There literally never was a Palestine.

[@jaimemarrero3982]

History can give context on the motivation of some actors, but doesn't justify current or future actions. I admit I, as American, am biased, but I think a concept like statute of limitations applies to the Israel conflict. Perhaps Palestine was historically displaced, but that is how every country in the history of humanity was formed. I am all in for a 2 stare solution to this conflict, but I'm not sure Palestine (Hamas) wants that. The from the river to the sea chant? Its already past the time to make a claim for that solution.

[@krispyasfk2567]

Who do you think would blink first in this stare off?

[@Incognito-or2ot]

Well we can’t say hamas is the only problem there bc Jewish settlers have been making two state solution impossible for decades in the west bank

[@jaimemarrero3982]

I can see a 2 state solution working if trump wins 2024. "Make peace and do a 2 state thing or the nukes fly and we do the 0 state reset button" XD. Jk jk. Not claiming Israel is blameless, but the way I see it, Israel is more likely reach a point where they say "stay on your side and we stay on ours" and mean it. Hamas has removed some of their messages to be more PC, but they want to exterminate Israel.

[@bronzee548]

They are illegally settling in the west bank and have check posts in the west bank, israel is occupying that land. Palestinians are second class citizens in theirs own home. They have no rights there.

[@ne0nmancer]

@@Incognito-or2ot Sure, but it's much easier to deal with the settler problem with policy, it's a question of the current government, Hamas can't be dealt with with policy.

[@Jay-qu2bc]

Has anyone seem mr beat's comment on noah samsen's palestine video. Bridge burned?

[@alonkatz4633]

We'll see if he takes Destiny's challenge for a debate

[@bentrinker1937]

He said he was angry at that moment and apologized.

[@albertbecerra]

​@alonkatz4633 I don't think I've ever seen Mr beat ever debate anyone 🤔 to defend his position on a certain topic

[@alonkatz4633]

@@albertbecerra Would be a nice change of pace

[@albertbecerra]

@alonkatz4633 well he's free to not engage, but in that case it makes me believe he doesn't have a strong position.

[@donny5302]

I'm israeli, Alot of emotion around saying "well october 7th had a reason" but I really can't help but love Mr.Beat just seems like a very honest good faith person, wish him the best.

[@yoavaloni1301]

I'm only half way through, but DAMN destiny, you're killin' it👌, As an israeli, who burried a very dear friend two weeks ago, I can tell you that our fear is huge. It was a real eye opening moment. The hottest topic nowadays here are guns, and that includes among the hippiest communities. The entire trance scene travels between graves, crying their hearts out, and dicussing about their new glocks. You're on-point in regard to the support for hamas among the palestinian people,especially in gaza. A huge number of gazan non-hamas individuals crossed the border, most of the raping, stealing, and beheading has ben done by unarmed mob that just wanted to do as much damage and horror as possible. Thanks for bringing clarity to these issue, it saves lives🙏

[@dillonblair6491]

Lmao leave Palestine and this won't happen 😂 Israel is a nuclear power it isn't going to get invaded

[@wewenang5167]

WHO GOT RAPE OR BEHEADED?

[@WaxPaper]

Is there a western news agency that reported what you're claiming, that a substantial amount of people doing the killing were just ordinary Palestinians?

[@blackdragon3748]

​@@dillonblair6491The Roman empire renamed Judea to Syria Palestina, wouldn't that make Italians the og Palestinians? Jews were an oppressed group that took they'r historical land from their imperialistic oppressors.

[@yusufgerald3969]

​@@dillonblair6491they just were invaded. Not for the first time.

[@eldenfindley186]

God I love Mr Beat. He’s so chill and king.

[@Demonluv]

"A lot of my understanding comes from watching Vice" That explains a lot.

[@ibbyseed]

Umm have you seen those videos? They’re not what you think lol. It’s just a real unbiased look into the lives of people and the status of what’s going on in Gaza.

[@jackeagleeye3453]

​@@ibbyseedI find most of the people that hate Vice haven't watched it in like 5 years

[@user-sk4ds1rg1z]

It's not unbiased at all bro. Vice has a documentary shot inside Palestine where they SHOW the murals of martyrs holding weapons and don't ask a single person there what that sort of imagery inspires. @@ibbyseed

[@colinjohnson6454]

@jackeagleeye3453 I really like Vice, especially their Russian Roulette and Pakistan series, but I think they have been filling a lot of their air time with soft subjects in the last few years and has started looking more like BuzzFeed and Vox. Still post good content most of the time though.

[@ibbyseed]

@@jackeagleeye3453 exactly. The problem is Vice has some of the best journalism sprinkled their list but ppl don’t see those and only judge the whole thing on a few vids that suck.

[@Rbb0828]

Destiny keep researching. It’s good to go against the mob. I am proud of you!

[@EbicGames]

The mob? Which one? What side do you think he’s taking?

[@Rbb0828]

@@EbicGames his age group = mob

[@Rbb0828]

@@EbicGames and younger

[@M87theGreat]

Go with the mob that is antagonistic against the propaganda.

[@MegaFlorest]

The mob that is calling for a ceasefire? 80% of Dems are calling for a ceasefire, over half of Independents, and just over half of Repubs are calling for a ceasefire. The "mob" is America, and the MSM blindly siding with genocide.

[@DanBorens]

This “it didn’t happen in a vacuum “ sentiment is not helping the conversation how people think. Yeah october 7th didn’t happen in a vacuum but this just derails what’s really important in current events. That both people are suffering in all directions of the conflict.people think this sentiment somehow justifies or explains away the atrocities because we’ve become so wound up in the dichotomy of oppressor and oppressed that we’ve kind of lost track of the discourse in such a way that we are constantly to label one side as the victim and that the victim is always righteous so we must support them to maintain our moral fiber. But if we want to play that game we can and it won’t turn out the way you think. There is a non-vacuum chain that extends way beyond this conflict even began. Okay so let’s play. The Nakba didn’t happen in a vacuum. It was a result of a decades long civil war by the Arabs of Palestine against the returning Jewish population to the land in which they carried out acts of terror against new Jewish immigrants as well as 5-7+ generation Jews in the region by village massacres and bus explosions (yes even in the 30s and before). That violence also didn’t happen in a vacuum. It was the result of a colonial (or decolonial ) movement by the new Zionists of Eastern Europe. While buying land isn’t inherently immoral, buying huge chunks of land and then evicting the poorer Arabs that lived in those lands for god knows how many generations was also immoral and a threat to the Arabs and the newly forming Palestinian national identity. The Zionist movement also didn’t happen in a vacuum. It was the result of more than two millennia of persecution, xenophobia and regularly occurring massacres/pogroms of Jewish people. That didn’t happen in a vacuum either, when Jews were among the only people able to lend with interest, this minority group prospered disproportionately to other Europeans which sowed envy, hatred and blame in an increasingly struggling continent. The Jewish minority diaspora did not exist in a vacuum either, not in Europe not Africa, the Americas nor the rest of the world. They were driven out by multiple empires throughout the centuries from what became known as Palestine post-Roman rule in the region. Pre Roman rule, the land was known as Judea, Samaria and Israel. But no expulsion of the Jews was as great as that which occurred during the Arabian empire which violently conquered Palestine, massacring Jews and forcibly evicting them causing and explosion in the growth of the diaspora. These are the ancestors of Palestinians today. The colonizers. Who today also share Jewish ancestry due to the admixture which often happens with long-term colonialism. While I don’t agree with this, a big sentiment from the far left who justify october 7th and insisting it didn’t happen in a vacuum often agree that decolonization is violent by necessity. The Zionists who grew the most desperate and grew in popularity after the holocaust thought the exact. Same. Thing. So let’s focus on today. A two state solution which outright condemns terror and maintains dual-recognition of both states’ indigenous right to govern themselves in their homeland.

[@zacharialopez4284]

👍🏾

[@lex_inker]

Yea. He lost me when he said how vice did such a good job and helped form his opinion.

[@hopahey2241]

While I agree it showed his bias, to me the conversation was delightful. I wish we could have more discussions of this nature.

[@enzn143]

vice are very high quality, and cover stuff that normies wouldnt. You might dislike vice, but they are great at what they do.

[@blockingsea]

This so weird... Mr Beast is my favortie wholesome History KZbinr and Desany is my favorite political shitposter... This is like watching a rated R movie with my grandma lol

[@TheGoodjeffman]

Anyone who advocates a One State Solution has no idea of the reality of the Israel Palestine dynamic.MŔ. BEAST nice or not is simply a fool.

[@BouncinBrandon]

30:25 I love the low-key call out to the serfs TV LMFAOOOO

[@Sky-ms9li]

''Why dont they just have a revolution'', is he hearing himself???? Definitely no bias on destinys side there.

[@0redbishop0]

So, the people calling for socialist revolution in the US are crazy too?

[@garystu655]

Mr. Beat: We need to recognize how desperate people in Gaza are due to their situation Destiny: Have there been rebellions against Hamas Mr. Beat: Of course not that's dangerous. Now back to how their desperation is why they'll fight against the military might of Israel and the US.

[@phatshah7377]

Bit disingenuous seeing as it's Hama's fighting, not the people in Gaza.

[@DougDimmaDab]

@@phatshah7377Was about to say this, he ironically did EXACTLY what Mr.Beast complaint was with Destiny. Conflating Hamas with Palestinians in general, then good Ol Gary’s takeaway was to do just that 😂😂

[@dfmrcv862]

​@@phatshah7377the people in Gaza don't support Hamas?

[@phatshah7377]

@@dfmrcv862 I'm sure some do, but a bit hard to know since Gaza hasn't had democratic elections in years.

[@jogiff]

When he didn't know about Hamas' original charter calling for the eradication of Jews worldwide, but apparently he knows for sure (presumably based on Vice videos) that before the 80s Palestinians were peacefully resisting Israel... *really* not impressed by this guy.

[@MichealPacitto]

Destiny: "Hamas was founded literally about killing Jews" Dude: "Yeah but you gotta remember this other non relevant point that will allow you to think that it's more complicated then that" *changes topic*

[@EvanLandry221]

"You don't know enough about the history to comment on this" also "A one party state is a viable idea. We can even get Iran in at the table" clown emoji

[@angelmartin7310]

Don't forget him saying the nationalism/theocracy of Israelis is the problem 😂

[@hdudidi]

You call it a non relevant point because you take a Israeli perspective

[@angelmartin7310]

@hdudidi I am a biblical literalist who thinks Israel will eventually expand to ancient borders and crown the antichrist king, and martyr all Christians on Earth with the help of Muslims....I'm not taking an "Israeli perspective" I'm just taking a fair and rational perspective. Israel is in the right when it comes to the conflict with the Arab world. I'm sick of seeing Israel held to a standard Arabs never hold themselves to. Just like when they come here and hold Westerners to a standard they would never hold their own people to.

[@Maya_Ruinz]

Yea let’s cherry pick a random statement, provide none of the context and then declare victory 👏

[@shainahum6717]

10:07 i hate the "it didn't happen in a vacuum" or "you need to understand where it came from". firstly, that doesn't justify atrocities. i can go to the extreme example and say that the actual malice towards germany by european countries after WW1 did not justify WW2, right? i can also go for the 9/11 example. i'm sure many people, esspecially those using such rhetoric, will say that USA after 9/11 comitted several atrocities that they are opposed to, right? which is an example of how the 9/11 attack did not justify in their eyes the USA response. and even in this conflict, people say "palestinians didn't start terrorism in a vacuum", israel didn't start it's actions against palestinians in a vacuum either! and we can go back and see how each and every year this conflict didn't start in a vacuum either and had years of history to it before of how both sides didn't just pop out of the aether. secondly, it's a racist idea to think that an entire culture of people experienced a trauma and just couldn't control themselves so their response was horrible acts of terror, even to the point of the horrors in 7/10. i'm sure that if i would ask mr. beat he would say that he and his relatives and probably all the people he knows would be able to control themselves enough to not mass rape and butcher civillians and torture kids and elderly before killing them and etc. again if we go to 9/11, i'm sure mr. beat would say he will never see himself getting to a point in which he would commit suicide by crashing a plane into a building, and i'm sure he would say it is wrong to act as such. and moreover, that he would expect other americans or westerners to resist from such actions. but by stating that it had a reason to why it happened in order to downplay the guilty-ness of the accused, he falls into a racist mindset. you take the ability of that peraon to be able and decide his actions, to control his actions, which you deem so obvious to control. so why he uses it only towards one side? because, probably without understanding it, he believes one side is incapable of controling themsekles. which side? the arab one, thats racist. just like every human, they are accountable for their own actions. thirdly, it's again the one sided-ness of this talking point while it exist for both sides. it should be obvious that non of the sides just decided to wake up one day and choose war out of nowhere. thinking one side is justified because history exists isn't reaching to a conclusion, it's searching for a justification for pre-concieved opinion. which isn't neccessirily bad, everyone has a bias. but this type of claim that "well, i'm not supportive of the response but there is a history to it that kinda, not really, but kinda, but not really, but kinda justifies it", is teying to mask that bias woth an "objectivity". it is not objective, the fact that you think history exists only for one side in a conflict older than you is the proof of a bias you just seems to be unable / unwilling to ignore. tl;dr, that reasoning of "it didn't happen in a vaccum", is both wrong (still doesn't justifies anything), racist (oh, you expect one side to control themselves yet from the other one not?), and a proof of a bias you didn't overcome (both sides did not pop into existence in 7/10 nor in 1948). honestly, expected mr. beat to do better than that. that is beneath his capabilities that he showed in his channel.

[@Jinkaza1882]

Bingo. Parents were unaware of what was being taught. Learned the mistake to look more closely as to what other people are teaching your kids.

[@rippedlikrambo1]

Mr beat didn’t acknowledge ethnic cleaning of Jews. Strange

[@TyCook-s1c]

Omg I just realized that channel Lemmino says let me know.. lol

[@seanchernov7178]

I personally think one state solution is impossible. Jews and Israeli Arabs can live together but not Palestinians in Gaza or west bank who are with different circumstances and hate Israel and many times Jews in general. Not to mention as a liberal getting the country with more far right (and we have enough of it already and most of the Palestinians there qualify if it's reactionary or more extreme like Hamas...) not liking the idea. This country won't be democratic for long and will collapse. Gradual move to 2 states solution seems to me like the only option with improving Palestinian conditions, empowering PA (and pressuring them to recognise Israel) and dealing with settlers and far right Israelis (instead of the far right borderline treacherous strategy of empowering Hamas to avoid negotiations). That state under PA and it most likely will be a reactionary authoritarian under Fatah.

[@andreasesser4641]

It is good to be critical of U.S. foreign policy. It is good to be critical of Israel. BUT one should also put it in perspective with what is going on worldwide, which is a tough ask sometimes. Every time the U.S. or any other democratic country messes up it goes front page. But when dictatorial countries (or groups) commit violations of human rights, they like to lock out the press, which they can do because there is no freedom of press. China and their treatment of the Uighurs comes to mind. Or the situation in Yemen. Even with the situation in Gaza one should keep in mind that Hamas gets to decide what kind of footage gets out and which areas the press has access to.

[@scarletsletter4466]

Yes & Hamas is also the one who’s telling us the numbers of “casualties.” They’re probably totally wrong, plus 20% of Gaza’s own missiles fall in their own territory

[@CarpeDonnelly]

Mr. Beat articulated the problem I have had with Destiny's take and position better than I ever could. Glad this conversation took place, and I hope more people watch this

[@deang8910]

The problem is that he doesn’t understand the public sentiment of the Palestinian people.

[@russelld2925]

The problem is that every time Destiny refuted his utopian, unrealistic ideas he had no response, instead just deflecting to the next talking point.

[@deang8910]

@@russelld2925 exactly

[@MegaFlorest]

@@deang8910 if nearly half the population of the Gaza strip is under 18, what does a pro or anit Hamas Palestinian population matter? You shouldn't kill civilians, and that's what Israel is doing daily.

[@whm_w8833]

@@MegaFlorestknowing Hamas taught children and teenagers to fight Israel (and hate Jews) and Hamas hides among the civilian population, what other action plan Israel could engaged?

[@sweetlolitaChii]

I love both Mr Beat and Destiny. They're both people with wildly different styles both trying to get to the truth.

[@Sacredsnow2]

I really like Mr beat and destiny. I’m glad this was an amicable conversation and it reinforces my liking of both people.

[@st.deykun]

"Okay I don't think this is going to be a super long or in-depth combo cuz, I don't I haven't actually done my super big reading yet that was supposed to be today I've been getting distracted by." An everyday commentator on the topic, starting a discussion on "poisoning the online dialogue about it" by them. In a universe where Destiny comments on Destiny, he would say something like: Wait, isn't what you do all day long?! Why would you admit that at the start? Those people are insufferable. Jesus.

[@チャラ-k4o]

I still can't believe that Destiny collabed with MR. BEAST

[@wrong1029]

When I imagine a stand-up citizen, it's pretty close to Mr. Beat.

[@McSpongeCartoons]

mr beat should be a regular guest

[@BizarreIoveTriangle]

Wholesome crossover episode :)

[@8020drummer]

36:25 known I’m gonna get pinioned for this, but isn’t this whole thing kind of a tragic chicken egg cycle that began when the English relocated 100,000 Jews to the area in…1946? The Palestinians reacted badly to what they saw as their land being given away (yes, yes I know the British won it fair and square from the Ottoman Empire), then the cycles of violence led to the partition plan, which the Palestinians rejected because in their eyes it’s all their land, then they declared war on the new Israeli state, and lost even more land in the conflict. Then they were madder, then they fought, then Israel got more territory, then chicken egg chicken egg. So it’s hard to be unequivocally for only one side. It’s definitely a cycle of violence. (Which Does Not justify the murder and kidnapping of civilians on 10/7)

[@stephonkruspky2945]

He couldn’t say moderate Palestinians without also laughing which is a sad thing. If only this whole debacle would have had a better outcome 70 years ago neither side would be so radicalized.

[@grantmurrieta7439]

Cool debate. But for someone that makes their career about studying history, he doesn’t know a lot about the history of this conflict or even the history of the land in question

[@deathbysloth]

1:03:49 I hate this response when I hear it because it's such a non-answer. The immediate follow-up is clearly: what if the community is split 50/50? What if 90% want to keep some problematic statue up, but the 10% who don't are so fervent in their opinion that they seek help outside the local community, such as soliciting donations from around the world and getting sympathetic news stories broadcast by national media outlets? Then this "local" issue becomes a touchstone in an international debate which could easily lead the local government or institution to make a call against the will of the majority just to alleviate the massive pressure or avoid the stigma of being braded x-phobic or x-ist. Not to say that any of this is wrong or unjustified, just that it means "it should be left up to the local community" is a dodge. Just take a stance, bro. Because odds are that once such a local story becomes a wider conversation, you'll end up taking one anyway.

[@PhreakPhantom]

"I am frustrated that you don't agree with my views"

[@lastsonshine]

at least he's honest. a lot of people would hide that, this guy is just 100% about it. it makes it easier to communicate with him

[@sshadyh]

I love Mr Beat, Kansas represent!!

[@Shlumbus69]

I will slide for Mr. Beat

[@albertbecerra]

On what?

[@youtubeviolatedme7123]

@@albertbecerra Just slide.

[@albertbecerra]

@@youtubeviolatedme7123 okie dokey

[@stevebear6295]

this dude is such a wishy washy fence sitter

[@EvanDGrogan]

The crossover I needed. Can anyone link the first convo?

[@ferrjuan]

Wait a minute this isn’t Mr Beast!

[@Victestr0104]

An important point about Palestinians today and Hamas is only 7% of Palestinians today voted for Hamas in 2006. A lot of the reason for that is because 50% of Gazans are children and weren’t even alive or were only a few years old in 2006. Also if we are going to disregard the history in this situation (as Destiny suggested), this point is even more important…. Only 7% of today’s Palestinians voted for Hamas in 2006 and they are separate entities….

[@scarletsletter4466]

We know from recent polling that the majority of folks in Gaza support Hamas. Keep in mind that “protecting minors under 18” is a western ideal, whereas in the MENA region it’s standard practice for militant acts to be carried out by teens. Iran even sent little boys into battle against Iraq (google it, but you’ll be disturbed) There is no easy solution to deal with the folks in Gaza, & even their Muslim neighbors won’t help or accept refugees because they’ve caused harm wherever they’ve gone. The population is majority underage, radicalized & poor. They’ve wasted BILLIONS of dollars in aid to dig tunnels & buy missiles, rather than create industry or infrastructure. They’re still dependent on Israel for water & electricity

[@Victestr0104]

@@scarletsletter4466 over 6,700 civilians in Gaza have been murdered so far. 99% confirmed civilians, only 13 Hamas confirmed dead, 62% women and children. Obviously this strategy of carpet bombing Gaza is no good. Not sure what “reliable poll” was conducted asking 5 year olds if they support Hamas or not? Source??

[@MonkeyShoe]

Alright I'm going to say it.... I don't like Mr Beat.

[@MagicMan608]

Hey, show some respect. Do you know how many blind people this man cured?

[@ISeeOldPeople3]

35:40 Mr Beat makes a strawman while criticizing attacking a strawman. Feels like he has a blind spot in thinking just becuase he is strawmaning them in a good light that it isn't a strawman.

[@Avizetic]

The peaceful moderate Palestinians, there are like 2 of them...

[@TurtleChad1]

"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppression" -Malcolm X

[@RandomDudeOne]

You have any quotes from Ho Chi Minh while you're at it?

[@bigphones666]

Megaman X > Malcolm X

[@MonkeyShoe]

Malcolm X was a loser.

[@icarus372]

​@RandomDudeOne "These Americans make great fertiliser for our rice fields" Ho Chi Minh

[@glassofwater2642]

last time i checked black people weren't calling their parents and celebrating killing white people, so I think it's a little different!

[@BigupSlime]

“I get most of my understanding on this issue from Vice.” Say less, chief. lol.

[@redaderoua8816]

Timestamp from when he said that?

[@BigupSlime]

@@redaderoua8816 15:42

[@firesong7825]

@@redaderoua8816 15:50 "a lot" instead of "most"

[@vishnuprasad7574]

MrBeast said that in this video

[@Aliyaaaa]

That is not what he said, chief. He said that he looks vice Videos to get an understanding about the living standards in Gaza. Not historical or political Information.

[@russelld2925]

"Let's be humble and realize how little we in the west know." Also, I have really strong opinions based on VICE videos I've watched.

[@noahboone524]

Mr. Beat is a great creator. I respect what he has to say

[@Trecesolotienesdos]

Dwight IKE Eisenhower was just a desk general in WWII. he just was chosen to lead SHEAF because of his charisma and diplomacy and not due to his battle smarts. He wasn't even head of the army - that was General Marshall who commanded the entire US Army.

[@gato4920]

Something the guest said confuses me. He said something along the lines of " us not figuring out the issues in the middle east is a threat to humanity" was he refering to a spreading world comflict?

[@kopekopekop]

Okay mr beat takes “I’m not an expert” way too far. If he wants to say he’s not an expert and there are others more informed out there, that’s great. But don’t say as someone who’s taken college classes in it, talked to several people from the area a decent amount, and done plenty of your own research that you know nothing

[@talsapps]

You get your idea on what's going from VICE?? No wonder you're so biased

[@Observette]

Why is Mr Beast even getting involved with politics so late in his career? He should stick to viral videos, transing his friends and charity. You know, stuff he actually does well!

[@keokihiga8462]

I just don’t get why destiny treats Israel with the kid gloves. I wish he’d get asked about Bibi supporting Hamas. That’s a move by people who aren’t in fear of getting wiped off the map. The truth is only the Palestinians are at risk of getting genocided.

[@xp8969]

You're right that Hamas is genociding th people of Palestine but they're also doing it to Israelis

[@BowlSoHard]

Destiny is always pretty sure about a lot of things… but never sure. He’s a 30 IQ Andy when is comes to this topic. 😂

[@DougDimmaDab]

He has his intuitions on a subject but no knowledge of the substance sometimes. That’s with all of us though, this seems particularly nuanced

[@woozie3241]

If someone is always "pretty sure" about things rather than being absolutely sure, than thats a sign of intelligence. Exactly the opposite of what your saying. Dumb people are blindly confident. Intelligent people tend to be more unsure about their knowledge.

[@dbags7617]

The whole anti semitic thing is pretty silly honestly. If you think its an really a Jewish thing ask yourself this, for the sake of argument let's say every single Israeli went out tommarow and converted to Islam or Christianity, do you think suddenly all the fighting will stop and the problems solved. Its a good buzzword to try and get sympathy but its really just not that simple

[@TheWallethead]

Great example… destiny lumping every Palestinian into the Hamas box is pretty disgusting.

[@ducknwater3016]

@@TheWallethead Not really. Most Palestinians support Hamas or Fatah, both hate jews lol

[@buggytheprophet1017]

Please destiny try to get a historian to have this conversation you and your viewers would learn so much new stuff

[@jcb5681]

Israel was created on an injustice, that is true. What’s also true is that the Palestinians are the only refugees that aren’t resettled by their ethnic kin. That’s the only reason this issue remains.

[@briano9397]

Most of the worlds map was redrawn after world war 2. Britain got to decide what to do with that land. It's not an injustice, that's how the world works throughout all of history

[@jogiff]

@@briano9397 My family fled China at around the same time as the so-called Nakba, and there is still a lot of saber-rattling from the PRC about reconquering the province (Taiwan) they fled to, but we don't keep on whining about how the UN should delete the PRC and give us back our farms and sinecures. For some reason Palestinians get explicitly special treatment, including a fundamentally different definition of refugee (the only population where refugee status is passed down through generations), a unique UN organization for their "refugees" (UNRWA, as opposed to UNHRC for every other refugee), and a fundamentally different approach (for all other refugees the UN is clear that they should not be returned, for the Palestinians it's the exact opposite).

[@ProxiProtogen]

​@@briano9397the Russia has the right to redraw the borders of Ukraine. OH WAIT, that's fucking stupid.

[@Jombozeus]

I found out that something like half of Gazans are actually displaced refugees and among that only half of that or less were actually there before the Israelis. Most people fighting came same time or after the Jews did in the late 1800s. There were about 100,000 people on this land at the start of the settler migration. This significantly lowered the power of the argument of resettlement for me. It significantly enhanced the argument that this is just a religious/ethnic tribalist conflict.

[@redaderoua8816]

​@@briano9397 I guess if Britain agrees to something, the locals are at they're whim and it is morally justified huh? Love me some justification for colonialism.

[@cIoudbank]

people in that chat room are the most lobotomized and chronically online people ive ever seen

[@jwiLx]

He said "every history teacher predicted the Israeli response"... Fuckin WOAH guy! You guys are crazy smart! Hooduthunkit?

[@PolarizedxD]

Bro was a History teacher with no knowledge of History. Unfortunate massive L for all of Mr. Beats fans that he came out this ignorant here.

[@CaptainTae]

Mr. Beat makes more excuses than he does videos. Gross.

[@imdunes]

If someone says to me that Biden has done surprisingly good, i know its safe to completely ignore everything else they have to say.

[@hectorhernandez7389]

True, the US has supported multiple genocides / military interventions around the world. Look at what the CIA has done to quash anti capitalist movements.

[@wolvesdentrainingcenter8707]

“Most Palestinians aren’t Hamas”- correction: Most Palestinians in their government are Hamas.

[@djwestbrook36]

25:58 Destiny wants to say history doesn't matter in this conflict. Would you say that about a black person that wants to explain black and white gap in America?

[@0redbishop0]

I'll agree to a secular Israel when he agrees to a secular Iran. And if you don't have a realistic plan to bring that about why the fuck even mention it.

[@stefon815]

Destiny's position just seems unbalanced with the amount of concern for the Israeli government having enemies in the middle east and not their oppression of the Palestinians.

[@dima_r6]

the holocaust is not a free pass to commit genocide. case closed.

[@briano9397]

Nobody said it was, case was never open

[@myfacern7232]

What an absolutely braindead reductive take.

[@mikedoherty7224]

1,061,270 Muslims in the region circa 1945, and 5.4 million as of 2022; most unsuccessful genocide in history

[@TurtleChad1]

Zionists already arrived to justify it.

[@Bravo2zero0]

You don't know what genocide means buddy

[@RurouniTenShins]

Destiny is not one to make cartoon videos like Knowledgia or something… but I think it would cool to do some solo videos maybe where you break down different phases of the last 80 years of Israel Palestine… and then instead of going back and forth between people, give what each side gets right and wrong about their perspective in each phase of the war.

[@TheObicobiHD]

This was fun. Bring this lad back sometime

[@justinwebber9968]

Lots of the population is highly suggestible. Most people fall into ideologically possessed camps and defend their position outward, into absurdity. Even Mr Beat said he has hope for teenagers, as each year they get a little more intelligent. He then qualified that he meant less bigoted, which means aligns more politically with himself. Destiny does well at recognising his own bias, Mr Beat does not, along with most of the population.

[@justinwebber9968]

​@lowenbeh0ld Assuming he is correct solely based on his supposed authority is a logical fallacy. Provide something of substance Mr. Beat said to evidence your point; otherwise, it's irrelevant.

[@willzxq99]

Even tho i disagree with somethings with mr beat bro is the best history tuber on the platform

[@Bungadood]

ahhahahahaha beavis and butthead observing a serious conversation from mr beat's background

[@Blargaha]

Obviously a very cool guy, and he's earned my subscription

[@nothingtoseeherebruvna]

Mans sounds like the Gaming Historian

[@dpa03]

Destiny’s approach to everything seems to be “what is Vaush and Hassan approach” and I’ll take the devils advocate role. It’s a little boring and predictable

[@scarletsletter4466]

Or… Destiny is correct in a lot of his analysis, whereas Vaush & Hasan are both grifters who automatically take the anti-US position on any issue to appeal to their “edgy” little boy audiences 😂

[@nuts_fattening]

Mr. Beat is an absolute W man’s

[@Sunnywastakentoo]

I love Mr. Beat so much. He's my favorite edutuber and seeing him share a platform with Destiny is amazing.

[@nerdwisdomyo9563]

Same.

[@hanscrow2056]

Professor Dave is good too but he goes hard sometimes lol