2023's HOTTEST Mobile Controller IS BACK!!! GameSir Galileo G8+ Review

[@GameTechTalk]

THE HYPE IS REAALLL!!! The Galileo G8+ is not only modding-ready, it is easy as *beep*!! Thanks to @retrotechdad , if not for him, I wouldn't have known. Watch the freshly released video addressing the mod here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZbEoYagrLqjqrM

[@omarcolon14]

@@GameTechTalk hey man great videos I've been watching your reviews lately I just have a question for you can you play call of duty mobile without having to use the mapping app? Again video and thank you in advance.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@omarcolon14 Thanks my guy! And yes you can because Bluetooth compatibility for CODM is vastly superior to wired compatibility. So just put the PS mode for example and bam, you are set!

[@darwinesguerra8883]

​@@GameTechTalk does it have keymapper to play games with no controller support? like wuthering and need for speed assemble,,, ive been using mantis gamepad pro, but if i can carry phone too with g8+, could be more efficient/ comfortable

[@GameTechTalk]

@@darwinesguerra8883 It does, much like Mantis Gamepad Pro, the compatibility may vary at times but GameSir app has a thing called G-Touch that is part of their software which basically does the same thing, it lets you remap buttons to "on-screen mapping". Do keep in mind that is for Android only, which I'm sure you are using since your mentioned Mantis but to prevent confusion, this wouldn't work on iOS.

[@darwinesguerra8883]

@@GameTechTalk tnx bro, have gt20 and x6pro

[@MyAmazingUsername]

I wish reviewers would mention something avout battery life. I only saw one person mention it and they said "up to 20 hours". How much are you getting on a full charge? Anyway, thank you for your hard work, I have binged an hour of your reviews today and learned a lot. ❤

[@a9udn9u-vanced]

17:37 The OG G8 must run cables through the center stem too otherwise keys on the left side won't register. I read about them using the springs as the cables, which is very clever, the G8+ might use the same trick.

[@GameTechTalk]

Yeah, I ended up doing a mod video that covered the system they have, it's pure genius!! And yes, the G8+ basically uses the same system with just a bit of an easter egg twist!

[@Benybix]

Great job! It can't be more clear than that, thank you for your work.

[@GameTechTalk]

Greatly appreciate the kind words! Cheers :)

[@fjellheimr]

What a great and detailed review! I’ve been looking into a phone controller for quite some time, and this G8+ came out and is on sale… plus your review?! Sold! I’m so excited to try it out!

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you and happy to have been of assistance! 😊

[@MasterSabo05]

Great Style and the right amount of information

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you greatly!

[@CBJR901]

So, an iPhone 13 can work with this controller? Because if so, my backbone is going into retirement, immediately.

[@GameTechTalk]

Yup, it can. I tested it on an iPhone 8 of all things and it worked! 😊 It is just awesome!

[@radfordra]

I had the Gamesir X3 Pro controller. it has the magnetic buttons. Little shits would come out if your hands get to sweaty. Which was so much fun when you're in a frenetic boss fight.

[@GameTechTalk]

Some materials and skintypes pair better than others. While I did not have that happen to me with the X3 Pro, I most certainly do with some plastics. The Razer Kishi v2 buttons were one of them for me.

[@Zetraxes]

I wish they would bring out a g9 with a peltier cooler

[@GameTechTalk]

Wouldn't mind that actually!

[@DiDaLaDee]

With rumble, this finally checked the last box on my list vs the G8. I'm going to be a happy owner of this G8+! Great review!

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you greatly :)

[@bopakbule]

Great content, great review keep it up and thank you for the effort

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks, will do!

[@benhur2069]

You are articulated af

[@GameTechTalk]

Ohh, well that's a first time compliment for me ahahaah! Thank you very much 😊

[@margileslabon2678]

I sincerely appreciate all the effort that went into creating this amazing video. I am planning to purchase this controller despite it not being compatible with screen mapping. Thank you for all your hard work.

[@GameTechTalk]

I got into this with the hope of helping people contemplating gaming hardware to buy and engage in the hobby with. For you to tell me these kind words makes my day. Thank you greatly and happy to have been of assistance! 😊

[@dannyvazquez173]

Great video! What would be reasons for picking the G8 over the G8+ for an Android user with a USB-C phone? Does having the USB-C connection on the G8 provide any benefits over the bluetooth?

[@GameTechTalk]

The two and exclusive benefits are: No battery needed and the 3.5mm jack. Everything else is better on the G8+, including the polling rate, aka overall latency performance. That is DESPITE being used mainly through bluetooth... So the reasons... There aren't many, if the two I listed speak to you, then you know your answer. If they don't, G8+ without question.

[@dannyvazquez173]

Thank you! Like you, I don't feel strongly about the jack and I'm excited about the functionality, like using it with the Switch for a more ergonomic controller. And I was waiting for the black color. Seems like an easy choice!

[@GameTechTalk]

@@dannyvazquez173 Talk about a hat trick! Cheers :)

[@MrKinein]

​@@GameTechTalk We also need to consider increased weight of the accessory (it's approx 295 grams vs 245 for g8). And given that even original version was heavy - it's an important property.

[@haroldtrei]

For me I like the G8 better just because it's one less device battery that I need to keep track off. Also not needing to go into settings to cennect it, so on so so forth, I love that it is pretty much just plug and play. And about the rumble, I disable rumble on all controllers, I even open them up and take out the motors to make them lighter so 😅... Not a feature I'd use.

[@GameTechTalk]

Yup, they played their cards right because I totally see why the G8 can remain an extremely viable solution for many, both that already own it, and that don't. Cheers! :)

[@Gamerlingual]

Looking forward to checking this out. Thanks for the review.

[@GameTechTalk]

Cheers, don't hesitate if you have questions!

[@Gamerlingual]

Have you tried using any brook adapters with it?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@Gamerlingual I have not, truth be told, I never bought any adapters like that.

[@DGold109]

The usb c is the weakest link and broke on my unit. The force of the springs is Basically acting to break the usb c. Its only a matter of time.

[@GameTechTalk]

Oh wow! I have not had this happen for me but I can definitely imagine how frustrating that must've been. And indeed, the G8+ completely eliminates that risk!

[@ShinjuNLG]

I would like the g8+ with a headphone jack. Like i want the wireless and rumble, but i would like the ability for it to plug into the phone. Plus bigger tablet sizes.

[@GameTechTalk]

I have yet to see that, nothing's impossible but I think we'll still have to wait a while to see such a feature sadly.

[@gregorybolivar5712]

Indeed... Another Awesome Take... of Tech Talk...🤓 Waiting on my RaZeR Edge to arrive.. 🤓 and my BsP D8...c🙃ntroller

[@GameTechTalk]

You're in for some fun times Gregory!! I always forget that the Edge has a 144hz panel, what a brilliant solution for Moonlight streaming!

[@McLort]

Glad I saw this video, just got my G8 and it didnt fit with my case. After searching I see there is the G8+ on their site. Returned and ordered!

[@GameTechTalk]

GG! 😊

[@varunaX]

you know you can remove rubber piece on the top and bottom to make it fit with your case right?

[@McLort]

@@varunaX Yes, I didn't want to cut it when I could just return and get + model.

[@SavvyAutomata]

Killed the review, exacttly the information i was searching for. Now to see if this work in dex mode with my Viture XR.......

[@GameTechTalk]

DeX Mode works fine on my end, so although I don't have the Viture, I feel as though you have nothing to worry about, it will work! :)

[@GustavoFil350]

Great video as always. Can you use headphones with an usb c to jack adaptador? Because if not the absence of the 3.5mm jack is a huge downgrade for me, I only play on the phone with headphones. And for the bluetooth part, do you feel any difference in input lag with the old G8 being wired and the new one wireless?

[@GameTechTalk]

Great question! Not going to lie, it would've been surprising as audio through bluetooth is a completely different protocol than inputs but I went ahead and tested. As expected, it does not work. 😔 It most certainly would've been a superb easter egg if it had. Cheers! :)

[@leonardomatheus1888]

I use a 90 degree headphone adapter.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@leonardomatheus1888 The iPega Thorn used to come with a 90 degree 3.5mm adapter, that thing was sooooo good. But I guess you're talking about a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter? That's quite a legit solution, in fact I might buy one for my upcoming travels. Never thought of that tbh, thanks!!

[@leonardomatheus1888]

@@GameTechTalk In fact i use a 90 degree usb c adapter, then use an apple dongle for the headphones. On my phones that have headphone jack i use a 90 degree headphone jack adapter.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@leonardomatheus1888 Brilliant!

[@Thunsegen]

Excellent review.

[@GameTechTalk]

Thank you kindly!

[@VladNerd]

Awesome review, my guy!

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks you greatly! 😊

[@TheSecretBaller]

Had an issue with the A button, wasnt registering properly . Awating a replacement

[@GameTechTalk]

Happy to hear GameSir was proactive on getting it replaced.

[@ltsplurge]

Hey Klef! I did have a question - is it possible to remap any of the buttons other than the back paddles? For example I'm trying to swap the inputs for A and L3. I love your videos man, your passion and expertise really shine through, and ultimately led me to buying the G8 plus.

[@GameTechTalk]

Aww dang, thanks, I'm catching that one right in the feels! Unfortunately, what you want to do is not an option no. You can change the layout but only from Xbox/PC style to Nintendo style.

[@expectafight]

The issue with a lot of people now is about form factors. If you have a book style foldable, like the Galaxy Fold, you would want a USB C controller with the port on the left. Bluetooth only does introduce more input lag. It's taking way too long to get a telescopic controller with USB C on the left and hall effect triggers. It's annoying and I'm also surprised that more tech blogs and KZbin commenters don't talk about it (I also used to write for tech blogs so this hits differently for me).

[@GameTechTalk]

Arguably, the X2s is there so GameSir did make an effort where many haven't. Would I wish for a G8s with the connector to the left, most definitely but performance would hav e to be addressed. Knowing GameSir, I'm sure they would. With that said, and I know this is going to sound crazy but I assure you, I benchmarked to be able to tell you this much, the G8+ has lower latency than the G8 wired. Now sure, it has a bit more jitter because it is wireless after all but we are comparing 125hz (G8 every modes) versus 500hz (G8+ on some modes). So we are moving from an 8ms to 2ms average. Even if you get 2.5ms with jitter coming into account on the G8+, you still have considerably superior latency performance. And dare I say, it's been noticeable, I've been gaming with this thing basically non-stop since I've reviewed it. It's the real deal.

[@AndreaB6]

I always wanted one with the USB-C on the left side (for foldable phones). They are making everything except the one with the usb on the left side...

[@GameTechTalk]

Yeah I think a lot of people would like to see that, I included but to their defense, Foldables are also not stabilized as a market so while I still think it would be better, it probably wouldn't be perfect still. Let's hope they do like the X2s and eventually do a G8s with the connector to the left!

[@AndreaB6]

@@GameTechTalk Yeah, making a controller specifically for foldable phones might be a not so good idea right now. But a regular Galileo G8 with the port on the left would still be perfectly usable even with normal sized phones. Gamesir even used to put it on the left side... I wonder why they stopped

[@exs6708]

How is the latency on switch mode in Bluetooth when compared to the g8 Galileo? Was hoping to buy this for game streaming. Also do you need bt 5.3 on the host to have that low latency on Bluetooth?

[@GameTechTalk]

As far as I could test, the latency of the G8+ is pretty much on par with every mode of G8, it's extremely reliable. And because it has very little signal jitter, you can expect a steady and reliable bluetooth connection, at least in most scenarios. With that said, there is a risk of running into signal interference but that would depend on the environment you find yourself in.

[@mikeflamez]

fantastic review mate. I am thinking of making this my mobile gaming controller purchase. 1 question please - I have a iPhone 15 pro max - does this G8+ support wired gaming as I don't want to use bluetooth to avoid input lag?

[@GameTechTalk]

It does yes, you can either use it wired or wireless, as long as you are on a compatible mode. For wired you have the PS mode and for wireless you have Switch and PS mode. Oh and thanks for the kind words!

[@Mewtolosky]

@@GameTechTalk let me help understand, you said in video that switch mode has the lowest latency over the other modes. If ps4 mode can be wired it means that it should have the lowest latency am i right? Speaking of playing brawlhalla on android which demands the lowest possible delay.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@Mewtolosky So the one mode that wired would do better than the Switch is the hidden Xbox mode (keep in mind that this mode does not seem officially supported by the controller and doesn’t work wireless). Hold Capture + X and that’ll bring up a green light, when wired, it comes up as X-Input and that one polls at 500hz. 500hz wired vs 500hz Bluetooth, wired will win. But 250hz or 125hz wired and lose to 500hz Bluetooth is the signal is stable, and it is!

[@raganx7108]

Great review, Gamesir Galileo G8 was my first ever telescopic controller and probably my last. The black is a nice touch and the buttons being interchangeable is nice too, but it's not enough to make me purchase another one. The rumble feature sounds like a cool feature but I'm sure in practice the shaking screen would be annoying and would be an irrelevant feature as it would be turned off, also the device would have to be charged. If it served as a "Power Bank" as well then I probably would probably replace my G8. Accessories would be awesome like interchangeable faceplates and buttons like you said, but some of these companies make a lot of money for having exclusive colors for certain products. ExtremRate should get on it.

[@GameTechTalk]

Ohh dude!!!! I'd love for eXtremeRate to tackle that, I love what that brand does. You know what, I'll speak to the rep I'm in communication with and throw them your suggestion. With the G8 getting more and more traction, now with two SKUs, there might just be a market for this! Cheers :)

[@raganx7108]

@@GameTechTalk everyone that has reviewed the G8 give it high marks, this new product from Gamesir is horrible timing for Scuff who will be releasing the nomad soon, in which I wrote to Scuff about how if they really want to sell their product they are going need a customizable controller just like how they used to be. The reason I bought a scuff was because it looked cool but then everything else started really feeling bad after maybe 100 hours of use and now it's a decorative piece lol, this was 4 years ago I'm sure much has improved but they lost my trust, Gamesir will soon be the premier company in controllers like 8bitdo.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@raganx7108 I need to review the Nomad, I have it with me. Honestly, It's a great controller, it just is slim pickings option-wise considering the price. But it's quality, moreso than Scuf products in general, at least from early testings.

[@raganx7108]

@@GameTechTalk great excited to see what you have to say, after replying to your reply I bought the G8+ as a gift they are going to Puerto Rico and the versatility of the G8+ plus seemed like a great gift since I'm not sure what they are going to bring on their trip. In the future do you have promo codes, I might have missed it in the video.

[@GameTechTalk]

​@@raganx7108 I do not at the moment, I think GameSir knew that this was going to get good publicity and garner much positive attention so they are trying to capitalize on profit. Honestly, I don't blame them, especially since they haven't increased the price. But usually, I do, this one is the first time I don't to be honest. Cheers! :)

[@hiimsloppy]

We need a 2024 refresh and NORTH AMERICAN RELEASE of the Lenovo legion Y700 table, with a newer snapdragon (G3X gen2??), then I can justify buying one of these controllers for an epic android gaming setup

[@GameTechTalk]

I'd be all over that tablet in a heartbeat!!

[@hiimsloppy]

@@GameTechTalk that tablet with a North American release and updated chip would put Ayn and Ayaneo out of the North American android gaming market

[@Johnassu]

This review is awesome! I was really impressed by the latency part. I’ve already ordered the G8, but maybe I should cancel it and get the G8+ instead. One thing I’m curious about is whether the iPhone 15 with a case will be compatible with the G8. Thanks!

[@GameTechTalk]

On my G8 review, I was able to use it with a case but it was a slim official Apple one. Right now, I have an ultra slim and it definitely works but yeah, based off of which case, results may vary.

[@Johnassu]

@@GameTechTalk thanks!

[@guillaumemorel6485]

Thanks for the review, so you can actually connect it to a XBox Series ? Thx

[@GameTechTalk]

I do not believe that you do, first because X-Input in itself spans throughout multiple controllers so while it has an "Xbox mode", it's more for X-Input support, for PC and Android compatibility. Second, I'm pretty sure the wireless Series drivers are tightfully locked and still not cracked by manufacturers, it wouldn't work on Series consoles even with the spoof. With that said, it might work on an Xbox One? I wouldn't know for sure though. Cheers!

[@brandonspiterig]

They should make a hybrid, like a g9+ which would come with usb c + Bluetooth features and a 2.4gh dongle

[@GameTechTalk]

I wish one of these manufacturers would make one with a magnet connector that you can remove and put back depending on the use case, wouldn't that be awesome?

[@brandonspiterig]

That's even better ​@@GameTechTalk

[@huguberhart]

How is the gyro aiming support? Have you seen these USB-C flat right angle cables? These could be useful for connecting a tablet to the controller.

[@GameTechTalk]

Gyro works fine but I don't think it can be used outside of Switch mode, don't quote me on that though. I can tell you it doesn't appear in the settings of the GameSir app or the screen mapping feature either. It only seems to work when connected to the Switch. Cheers!

[@jbpamene]

I was acutally looking for a good controller for android/phone emulation and i'm really confused what to get. I cancelled my order twice online (G8+ & X2S Bluetooth) because im really having a hard time which to get. I searched through google and yt then i saw your content and damn, i really love the detailed review you do (auto sub ❤️). It really helped me to finally decide what to get (bought the X2S because of the portability and sff compared to G8+ since i want to bring and use it anywhere i go) but damn i want G8+ also 🤣 because of the f***** awesome features. Welp really hard when on a budget 🤣. Anyway awesome review and content. Keep it up! 👌🏻 From 🇵🇭

[@GameTechTalk]

Oh wow. You tugged at my heart with this comment in the most positive way. Thank you for seeing value in my content and for sticking around. 😊

[@jbpamene]

​​@@GameTechTalkYou're welcome! I got my X2S Bluetooth right now ❤ i just wanna ask is there any wattage that is required to charge the controller? Like it should be charge only on a non fast charging adaptor (10w) or it doesnt matter? Like i could use any adaptor?

[@GameTechTalk]

@@jbpamene I have tried both with a PC USB port, which is basically the weakest there is and with a powerful almighty one. Truth be told, I don't remember if it charged with both (it is now wrapped up ready to ship) but it didn't blow up so I'd say you are fine to go ahead and try. Sorry that I don't remember 😅

[@andyt204]

Nice video, sorry if i missed it but has anyone had any luck getting rumble to work on geforce now, specifically theough the android app?

[@GameTechTalk]

I can’t answer myself as I haven’t tested GeForce now with it. With that said, does the software support the feature even?

[@letsunboxreview]

Oh man i got the g8 and not being able to adjust triggers buttons through ios app was a bummer then this came out ! I shouldve waited longer , i want a black color too 😂

[@GameTechTalk]

Ahhh yeah, I was going to say that you can adjust a lot through shortcut on the G8 but indeed, stick deadzone and trigger deadzone requires the app absolutely.

[@jesperhammarlund300]

what if i want to use my airpods while using this controller when im like out in public or whatever. can I use multiple BT decices at the same time? if not then thats a bit of a dealbreaker. with the G8 with USB-C that was no problem cus well it was hard wired connection. bit sad they didn't add both. have have the USB-C connector being removable for when u wanna use tablets with just BT. the charging is fine cus i just figured out a way. use magsafe instead of a cable that way your iphone stays charged while you play. cus u can't really use a cable cus well the USB-C port on the phone is blocked by the sides of the controller. but the magsafe puck should work just fine

[@GameTechTalk]

You absolutely can, I do it all the time! In fact, just the other day, I had Airpods Pro, Airpods Max and the G8+ all connected simultaneously (I wanted to test the Pro in transparent while having the Max on noise cancelling, it was trippy! 😅) and everything worked beautifully. Bluetooth has come a long way.

[@jesperhammarlund300]

@@GameTechTalk thanks so much for the info. well then. this is my new fav controller then 😂

[@frostboy76]

Does the g8 plus support ps5 games via remote play? I know it says dualshock 4 and alot of ps5 games require dualshock edge controllers to play

[@GameTechTalk]

Yeah it works for both PS4 and PS5 games!

[@frostboy76]

@@GameTechTalk oh thank god. I just brought one and when i looked at the specs it only said dualshock 4 and not dualshock edge. You need a edge to play ps5 games etc. Thx for answering though, really appretiate it👍

[@latinochico]

@@frostboy76it’s works perfectly I have used the g8+ and ps5 remote play for over 50 gameplay hours no problem

[@frostboy76]

@@latinochico yup just got mine and it works wonders lol. Its feels like a switch for your xbox and playstation.

[@muriel24mj87]

@@latinochico is there haptic feedback? Or vibration?

[@mrmack3176]

Honestly I have the g8. But being able to use this amazing controller on PC and rumble already beats the ultra

[@GameTechTalk]

The G8+ is, as far as I am concerned, the very first ever S+ tier list mobile controller we've seen.

[@_rage_quitter_11]

That was a great review buddy ❤️ keep the good stuff coming. Just a query, is the Bluetooth latency in online fps games like CODM and Fortnite noticeable compared to wired mode in G8+ or regular G8 or is it negligible.

[@GameTechTalk]

It’s either better (crazy I know) or in some cases (depending on the mode) at least negligible to just about on-par with G8. Thanks for the kind words! 😊

[@_rage_quitter_11]

​@@GameTechTalk You earned every praise my guy. So the G8+ can easily handle whatever is thrown at it? Man that makes it difficult. I really like the pass through charging and audio jack in g8 but the versatility of g8+ is no joke.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@_rage_quitter_11 Yup pretty much anything. And to think that the best Switch controller is one that is not even primarily designed for it! 🤣 Absolutely bonkers.

[@victornsubuga5573]

Any game recommendations that use native on the G8 for android? Thanks 👍🏾

[@GameTechTalk]

Ohh there are quite a lot, Zenless Zone Zero, Stardew Valley, Dead Cells, Minecraft, Brawlhalla, emulation to name a few options.

[@victornsubuga5573]

@@GameTechTalk thanks a lot

[@davieslm]

I have an iPad Mini 6G and could not decide on the Razer Kishi Ultra or Gamesir G8+ so I just ordered both then will decide and send one of them back when they arrive. Which one do you think I will keep? I retro game and an advantage of the G8+ for me is tate mode (vertical). The advantage of Razer is the USB-C passthrough so I would only need to charge the just the iPad versus iPad+controller. I prefer look of the Razer (black versus charcoal) and the Series X style thumbsticks but the hot swappable hall effect thumbsticks of the m8+ are likely to be better.

[@GameTechTalk]

I think the G8+ will win it. For me the Kishi Ultra is second in line but still had cons versus the G8. The G8+ pretty much fixed everything AND added on top. Still the Kishi Ultra retains a few advantages over it, but the G8+ greatly pushes the envelope forward and one thing they both had over the Ultra is ergonomic and overall feel. At least for me but that can indeed be subjective.

[@davieslm]

@@GameTechTalk Hi. Thanks for the reply.

[@davieslm]

@@GameTechTalk G8+ and Kishi Ultra arrived today. You were absolutely correct: The Kishi is getting returned and I'm keeping the G8+ :) I do not like the tactile ABXY buttons, feel of d-pad or ergonomics of the Kish Ultra. The plastic feels hollow and light in comparison. The G8+ wins hands-down is terms of ergonomics, build quality plus the spring is stronger and grips the devices more securely due to the wider "bar". The thumbsticks, d-pad, buttons and triggers all feel nicer and better quality as well on the G8+. I spent a couple of days while waiting for them to arrive prepping my iPad with roms, playlists, thumbnails etc for Retroarch. However the iPad Mini with the controller feels a little heavy /big /unbalanced :) Maybe I am not just need more time with it. My iPhone 15 Pro feels more balanced but display is too small so I dug out my Samsung A34 5G with its 6.6" display. I think this may be the sweet spot plus I was pleasantly surprised to see that Retroarch has better core support on Andorid versus iOS.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@davieslm I’ll be singing Razer’s praises when they fire on all cylinders, but though it’s a good product, it’s overpriced and already surpassed. Glad to see I wasn’t crazy but ultimately, glad to know another gamer will be gaming and no matter the hardware with, that makes me a happy fellow! 😊 Cheers!

[@terribletimes902]

This is actually amazing. Great value considering it actually works as joy cons for the Switch

[@GameTechTalk]

And the polling rate?!? This thing polls higher than ANY other Nintendo Switch based controllers I've EVER SEEN. This sets a new standard from where I stand. I'm still shocked tbh!

[@Vladyka_TV]

Hi, it's currently $66, is that expensive? How much did you buy your g8+ for?

[@GameTechTalk]

It’s a steal for that controller, I’m shocked they discounted it so quickly, what an opportunity! 😮 The unit I have was provided free of charge from GameSir.

[@Ajayajay-nr2qj]

I want to play asphlat unite on my android tablet and smartphone using the g8 plus.... Can i assign a different button for steering like r1 r2?

[@GameTechTalk]

Unfortunately no, not unless the game has the remapping available in the game. The software for the G8Plus does let you change profiles but you are stuck to the face button layout only.

[@omoveja8185]

Hi, does a case for the G8 work on a G8+ ? Can you please link a case for the G8+ ???

[@GameTechTalk]

I don't use that many cases unfortunately so I may not be the right person to answer this question. With that said, the G8+ is wider than the G8 by about 2-3cms so it might not fit a tight G8 case.

[@PhatBoyzClub]

Its a simple flex cable you can mod it, just buy the cable the length u want. For future refrence polling rate has 0 relevance on android, its subjective to several different factors including the game/app itself and has nothing to do with a pc unless you are using moonlight and directly connecting ur controller to the pc Bluetooth instead of the phone.

[@GameTechTalk]

The funny thing is approximately two years ago, I tried so many controllers, not kidding I must had opened 6 different models, bought longer flex cable that matched the same specs. None worked. I always thought the length had to disrupt the signal because there was absolutely zero reason for it not to work. I get what you’re saying and in some cases, it was always an easy mod but for these controllers, I assure you it wasn’t… don’t know why.

[@joaopaulo1318]

Great review bro! Can you confirm that the rumble function works fine with psplay app?

[@GameTechTalk]

I absolutely can bro! It’s a beaaaassttt!

[@joaopaulo1318]

@@GameTechTalk that's what I needed to know. Buying now, thanks bro 😁

[@Kwamelion]

Does the wired mode work with android as well the way the backbone does? If it does, then this would be perfect for the z fold 5. I would play mostly with wired mode, and if i needed to charge my phone, go bluetooth mode. Ordering asap regardless. I have the original g8 and a backbone and I wish I could have the screen centered in the controller

[@GameTechTalk]

On the GameSir Galileo G8+, yes it does. That bottom USB-C can be connected "from and to" to transform the controller into a wired controller and you can still switch modes as well. On the GameSir Galileo G8, it's a little more complicated, you can do it but you have to go through the middle connector (the one that inserts in phones) so you need a USB-C female to USB-C male type cable and these are oftentimes not as common in households. Enjoy my dude, you won't regret!

[@emeresbestres1]

I wish Gamesir moved the right thumbstick up matching the left side. It's kind of weird to have it so low and operate triggers. Just my opinion, otherwise great device.

[@GameTechTalk]

They have a product (not a telescopic controller) that will embrace the symmetrical stick placement. I think it’s a sign that they heard these consumers so fingers crossed that they’ll bring that to other product lines as well?

[@ironBat1226]

Hi can you use wired mode on a normal mobile phone? not like the galaxy fold since as I saw it on your video, the port is way on the top of the controller so you were able to plug a cable there. thanks

[@GameTechTalk]

You could with an angle adapter but I would recommend against it to be honest, I would have too much concern of causing unnecessary stress on the port over time. It's definitely a thing though and if you can have a good grip on the adapter, the risks would basically be null.

[@NiltonMartins]

So can you plug an external ssd via the gamesir? Thank you for the video 🙏🏾

[@GameTechTalk]

Unfortunately no, so while the USB-C can be used as a wired output for wired operations, it is not an input to send over bluetooth to the device you are using. As far as I know, I don't think a single controller exists with that feature through the USB-C. However, because this one is wireless, you could retain the USB-C of your phone/tablet to be used with other things, but that would most likely require modding. I hope this helps! :)

[@mr.chillinontheroad2383]

hi! do you mean you cant play any games with it? just the games with controller support?

[@GameTechTalk]

For games that do not natively support controllers, you can use the screen mapping software. It’s very comprehensive and complete too!

[@captainthunderbolt7541]

Bluetooth controllers (and Bluetooth peripherals in general) require a special chip to work with Xbox consoles.

[@GameTechTalk]

Indeed, and thank you for pointing it out, « Xbox mode » does not mean it’ll work on Xbox, it only means its spoofed as an Xbox controller and therefore falls under the X-input protocol despite not properly being licensed.

[@lloyd.lemoncito]

Is there other replacement thumbsticks we can use for the G8+?

[@GameTechTalk]

Most aftermarket ones that work for Xbox and PlayStation will work fine for the G8 and G8+.

[@Fire2000Ml]

do you know if the inbuilt gyroscope for this controller can be mapped to the touchscreen? or is this exclusive to the switch?

[@GameTechTalk]

As far as I can tell, this is exclusive to the Switch, at least for the time being. But, they seem to have some easter egg action going with this controller so maybe I just haven't ran into a solution to utilize the gyro? Sorry to say I don't know more at this point in time.

[@Fire2000Ml]

@@GameTechTalkthanks for the reply. yeah I noticed on AliExpress it only mentioned the switch, though there's nothing saying it can't be used this way. sadly the Flydigi Wee 2T is the only one I've found with this feature and it doesn't fit my new phone. I'll miss it. the G8 Plus seems fantastic otherwise though, just a shame they missed out on this opportunity.

[@GameTechTalk]

We could see further implementations? GameSir seem to understand the ticking layers of the hardware they make more than many and I mean MANY of the hardware manufacturers these days. Time will tell!

[@Andrew-Night]

Unfortunately Gamesir confirmed to me that the G8 Plus has not Xinput Mode ..(Xbox mode controller) so regarding BetterXcloud, we wont take advantage of the Rumble function.... What a pity The BSP D9 controller does All bluetooth modes, Xinput Mode as well, It rumble capability is great and It is expandible to 28cm (It fits on the S9 Tab plus 12.4")

[@GameTechTalk]

I assure you, it's there. I benched it. BUT, it isn't there on wireless, or should I say, it is there but it refuses to connect. On wired however, it works, I kid you not. Now, there is a chance that a future upgrade would remove that? But if so, I was not given any heads up that this wasn't supposed to make it in the retail version. But even if you look at the moment I use it wired on the Switch and hold minus and plus sign? The green LED, that's X-Input mode. And you can see also in the benchmark slide near the end, check 20:22 and you see that column that is called "Mode", I can't set that manually, that's automated by the software and it reported that mode as X-Input. I can test BetterXcloud for you and report back, I'll do that once I'm home. Cheers!

[@Andrew-Night]

@@GameTechTalk Gamesir support confirmed me that, Xbox bluetooth Mode for connection does not work Regarding BetterXcloud, yes, Rumble works for All controllers that have Xinput -xbox Mode (bluetooth) as I said the BSP D9 controller does. It is weird why there IS no expandable controllers for Big tablets..., the only One is the D9 which opens yo 28cm (perfect for S9 tab plus 12.4") The G8 plus without Xinput Mode and with no modding option to open It for Big tablets..., It is a pity for most users...

[@mipad4491]

@@Andrew-Night can the d9 is usable in codm ?

[@Andrew-Night]

@@mipad4491 yes for sure, It has mapping app with v3 shooting , if you look for KZbin D9 review you Will se how to do It, Its simple

[@GameTechTalk]

It is, many controllers are useable in CODM, just the wired one that is stuck to Backbone One. But for wireless, most controllers will support just fine!

[@fordmccloud4455]

That's what I am waiting for IOS screen mapping.. but I'm planning to get one of this

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks for watching! It's a great product, I can't deny it of the praise it deserves.

[@Djenta94]

How long did shipping take? I'm in US. But about to grab the standard G8 on prime, cause I know this comes from CHina

[@GameTechTalk]

Very fast in "from China" standards. I've always had very quick shipping from GameSir and I'm not talking from the "I'm a creator" perspective, I'm talking me making my own purchases, it's never been more than a week but most times, we're talking 3-4 days. It's not Amazon 1-day fast, but honestly, seeing how successful the G8 was, I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon stocked in their factories. It's definitely a high-profile item and both GameSir and Amazon knows it, I would hope they prepared accordingly.

[@thanhtainhi]

Hi, nice video, about the new model, I haven't seen other reviewers mention this feature, can you removing part of the rubber pad (mentioned on this product website) which can make the controller more compatible with phones have a large cameras? I'm currently using the Xiaomi 14 Ultra, has a camera thickness of up to 9.2mm, I really like the G8 Controller but it doesn't fit my phone, after hearing that Gamesir G8+ version can support phones with large thicknesses, I would love to see this feature before ordering it

[@GameTechTalk]

Real honestly, I didn't even know that was why the little rubber tab was separate from the rest, makes sense. With that said, it is very hard to remove, to the point that I pried to uncomfortable degree and it didn't come off. From where I stand, it seems to be designed to have enough flex to do the easter egg mod but I guess with the right amount of strength, it could effectively be removed.

[@thanhtainhi]

@@GameTechTalk Thank u for replying to my comment, the info u provided is very useful!!

[@Rollie43]

Great work!

[@GameTechTalk]

Well thank you greatly! 😊

[@rei1556]

how safe is it when it's gripping the switch? like does the switch not fall off when nudged? even with a slight amount of force?

[@GameTechTalk]

Pretty safe I’d say. The Switch not being that heavy is well constrained by the coil system of the G8+.

[@latinochico]

Can you use Bluetooth switch mode to play ps5 remote play and Xbox remote play?

[@GameTechTalk]

You can get BetterXCloud to get Xbox remote play to work fine with the PS Mode, highly recommend too btw!

[@wilazn]

Where did you get the rectangular felt piece. i need something like that to stop the telescopic back from caving into the phone.

[@GameTechTalk]

I'm sorry to say that I don't remember, it was a piece I had that came from something completely unrelated and figured it would be nice to put it there to prevent scratch the back of whatever device I put on. I would think this can be found fairly easily or even by stacking a couple pieces of electric tape.

[@techzonekid]

Nice one man👍. i might actually get this

[@GameTechTalk]

It's solid, I might end up modding it after all because this thing, during the "intervention me" segment, I realized polls so much higher than the regular G8, it's absurd. Switch BT mode outperforms the wired regular G8 like no tomorrow... Absolutely bonkers.

[@techzonekid]

@@GameTechTalk yeah man, saw the benchmark numbers and those numbers are crazy. really wanna test it on switch mode

[@aashishsigdel6534]

Is it compatible with red magic pro 9 ? Hoping to hear

[@GameTechTalk]

I have the 8 Pro, it works absolutely fine. No reason for it not to work with RedMagic 9 Pro.

[@zero2006xl]

G8 is one of the best controllers Ive ever used. A perfect purchase. If you want something like this, G8 is what you need.

[@GameTechTalk]

The G8 broke the market, properly so. I'll give credit to Razer as they were prototyping, hence why they dropped the Ultra but the G8 is such an amazing value pack, feature packed, quality packed product, and for the G8+ to stack even more feature is simply shocking to me!

[@zero2006xl]

@@GameTechTalk do you mean that G8 is based on a Razer prototype? Didn't know!

[@GameTechTalk]

@@zero2006xl No no, not at all, what I meant is that when GameSir came out with a product, there was proof out in the wild that Razer was also back on the drawing board to update their Kishi V2 line (I talk about it in my Galileo G8 original review). That controller I'm referring to somehow was found in a thrift shop and eventually was shipped to Retro Handhelds. So I'm giving Razer credit in the sense that they were already hard at work on a redesign, at this point, it's starting to become shameful that Backbone still doesn't, as an example. I believe the G8 is probably one of the most, if not THE MOST, influential product in this telescopic controller space, as is Backbone.

[@zero2006xl]

@@GameTechTalk I see, thank you for such a thorough explanation. I was about to purchase backbone but the console like form factor in the G8 caught my eye. I was afraid of bad ergonomics, something I really care about. I love the BB's compact design though and I hope they improve upon it with a more ergonomic approach without going too big as G8.

[@GalaxysTaken]

I have been a little hesitant with these controllers because of the camera on phones. Like, would the phone be tilted because of the camera. Like the s21 or s22? One other question, is the yellow LED noticeable on android? That bright yellow looks very distrating or can you just turn it off.

[@GameTechTalk]

GameSir really designed this cleverly, when opening the controller, it opens up a space for camera bumps to really "sink" into. I can't speak on the compatibility of every single phone there is but if you were to not have a flawless socketing experience, you would be able to easily address that with an insert to make that dip wider to accomodate all types of camera bumps. And by insert, it literally could be a small rectangle of packing foam that you put between the controller and your phone, no need to be fancy. I hope this helps, cheers!

[@Chris.Morales]

Can you take it apart? Why does it show battery % for left and right? Is it like the Aileron?

[@GameTechTalk]

So after having posted the video, I noticed from GameSir's own spec sheet that indeed, they have intentionally designed it with two batteries of 500mAh on each side, which so happens to be what joycons often have on each side too. It doesn't detach like the Aileron does though, it really is one single unit. So my educated guess is, there is a power wire to daisy chain the batteries so that the single USB-C charge both simultaneously. And the coils still handle the data like on regular G8. It can be taken apart but trying to mod it will require extra effort on the power wire. Probably a very simple soldering job on each end, the reason why I won't do mine is, installing a longer wire will cause problems if I want to use the controller in "regular width" mode with a now extended cable to adapt to tablets. There might be enough room in the shells to tuck that extra cable but without a system to prevent streneous tension over time, this is a design waiting to fail. I hope this answers the questions you may have and keep 'em coming, happy to help!

[@ArunVikram-sh6xo]

I use G8 for android, which controller is best type-c or blutooth controller. what is your personal opinion should I go for G8+ or i should stick with G8?

[@GameTechTalk]

Honestly, if you have no gripes whatsoever with the G8, it's absolutely fine to stick with it. If you see value in the updated features of the G8+ (rumble, Switch support, higher polling rate, etc) than I think it is a worthy upgrade but as the saying goes: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Cheers :)

[@miru2583]

wait wait wait.. so if my phone almost run out of battery, how do I charge it without affecting my playtime? I'm torn between G8 and G8+. I like my controller to be able to connect to other platform, G8+ does that but no USB passthrough?

[@GameTechTalk]

That would be one compromise with this controller, you do have to are a "solution" for charging your phone while playing with it, the best solution would most likely be to sit your phone for 30mins while you play using the controller wirelessly. And after you get a 50% battery in fast charge, you set yourself back as a single unit with your phone in the controller.

[@MTB_FANATIC99]

Does this work with xbox game pass app?? I play nhl24 and few others thanks??

[@GameTechTalk]

It will depend on the device, on iOS / Apple devices, you shouldn't have any issues. On Android, you may indeed have to rely on other means to get it to work. There is an app called BetterXCloud which is effectively a much better XCloud solution, using your Game Pass account, that will work just fine with the G8+ on Android.

[@daliodis3153]

so is the g8 plus basically the best telescopic controller on the market? (for me considering ergonomics and bt compatibilty mode with many devices)

[@GameTechTalk]

Yes, absolutely. Considering the internal performance, features and overall compatibility, it's definitely the champion and who knows, maybe it'll be dethroned super fast, the abxylute S9 is a solid contender but as far as I am concerned here and now, it is the current best on the market.

[@daliodis3153]

​@GameTechTalk abxylute s9 looks incredible! I would 100% wait for it if it there was a bluetooth option, it seems to have a lot of features similar to the G8+ and swappable dpads! Although since my main use case for the telescopic controller is not only limited to my phone but also my switch I think I'll just get the G8+ for now, perhaps in the future abxylute might make a bluetooth version!

[@Nick-hz9no]

DAMN! I wish it was smaller horizontally, I want to use it with my phone vertically so I can play DS/3DS, so close.

[@GameTechTalk]

Only one solution remains... DS/3DS using a tablet in portrait orientation, mwahahHAHAHHAHA!! 😈

[@Nick-hz9no]

@@GameTechTalk I thought about this, but I don't think I want to drop 2 hundo on a tablet ONLY for ds/3ds games, plus another 80 bucks on this cont... and even then it's not portable... I know everyone says just get a DS... but I refuse to have a uni device, pay that much, and NOT be able to play with enhanced resolution... and so... I sit and wait.

[@GameTechTalk]

The solution will come in due time, more power to you for overpowering FOMO.

[@adraneharris]

I just want to play mr.autofire on my android A15 but it won't map the Dpad..The mapping is the problem..

[@GameTechTalk]

You cannot change your mappings on the controller software so the game does have to support it. It's possible that the game always does not necessarily support every type of controller, Android is a bit more "live and let live" as we know. You could try the different modes to see if one works over the other. Good luck!

[@allanliquornik7680]

Will this controller fit iPad Pro 13 inch m4

[@GameTechTalk]

Yeah it will with the quick and easy mod: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZbEoYagrLqjqrM

[@jmndz6092]

does rumble work on ps5 games? I have the g8 if this have rumble on ps5 I might upgrade

[@GameTechTalk]

It does using PSPlay, it doesn't using PS Remote Play but that's because the official app doesn't support rumble. By the way, that is on Android, on iOS, I'm not sure if there is a "third-party" app that brings rumble.

[@RobnDob]

the g8 was done dirty by the lack of app support especially on iPhone. usb c connection will always beat bluetooth.

[@GameTechTalk]

"USB-C will always beat bluetooth" absolutely... when fighting pound for pound. The G8+ is not on the same level performance-wise. Controllers with higher polling rates are just starting to come out in the telescopic controller market. A 125hz USB-C will win over a 125hz Bluetooth... In every single scenario. But a 250hz Bluetooth is likely to trump over a 125hz USB-C. The G8 is 125hz. The G8+ is 500hz compatible. That should be the math right there. For every 4 times that the G8+ speaks to your phone, the G8 does it only once. So even if during those 4 times, the G8+ has occasional jitter, it'll still get the info out on the next polling well before the G8 did a full cycle. I get that for years, we experienced bluetooth being trash full of latency against wired, but until we have a G8 wired that can do 500hz, or better yet, 1000hz, the G8+ simply will be able to outperform the G8 and that's facts.

[@RobnDob]

@@GameTechTalk thanks for the info 👍

[@-Airwalk1616-]

So @GameTechTalk I watched your original G8 video. I can't find what you're talking about with this "Easter Egg" with the box? What the heck do you mean?! We're you saying the first box you could unfold the bottom flaps to access the box inside so as not to disturb the sticker on the other side that seals it shut?

[@GameTechTalk]

Here, that shorts shows you exactly was I was referring to. A fun little detail, easy to miss but one that still shows the brand has that thought process in their designs! kzbin.infofmwUCvnS8dU?si=Ksgwp3_8nxdFajqV

[@-Airwalk1616-]

@GameTechTalk oh boy. How funny. I was expecting something much more. Haha. Cool little thing though.

[@ivan_pinatti]

The discount code for G8+ in the description is not working on Amazon. 😢

[@GameTechTalk]

The discount should apply at checkout but indeed, you no longer enter the code, rather it auto-applies the discount.

[@ivan_pinatti]

@@GameTechTalk could you please clarify the auto-apply? It didn't work for me.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@ivan_pinatti When you put it in cart, it should go from down by 10% at checkout. Go all the way without fully placing the order, you should see the discount applied (on Amazon dot com, I don't know for other countries).

[@arigunawan8685]

Does it fit lenovo legion y700 tablet?

[@GameTechTalk]

It does yes!

[@rogiersmit]

I don't get rumble/vibration on most of the games on iOS or with Xbox remote play. Is this normal? When does the gyro and rumble become actived and in which games/platform?

[@GameTechTalk]

The mode you use could be at cause, assuming of course that the games you have in mind do support gyro data. So here's the simple, yet unfortunate fact:. The Switch mode not work with rumble. Ideally, I would recommend the PS mode and specifically for rumble in Remote Play, I think the issue is the app. You may want to google "Better XCloud". There is a little bit of a tutorial to get it sorted but it'll be worth it in the end. When I want to make sure gyro is working, I bought a game called Rush Rally Origins, it was like 5$. It's been a great benchmark and I can assure you that this game has rumble support (you may have to enable it from the settings).

[@rogiersmit]

@@GameTechTalk thanks for your elaborate response! I got rumble working with DS4 mode and an app called Onecast that streams the Xbox content to my iPhone including rumble support! For gyro I don't know yet on Xbox.

[@GameTechTalk]

@@rogiersmit For gyro unfortunately, that will be a no-go with the current software state for the G8+. I'll address it very soon in a video on how to best use the G8+ actually.

[@pattyotk]

Do you know if the original G8 has a virtual controller for games that don't natively support controller?

[@GameTechTalk]

It does for Android, it’s called G-Touch.

[@bassyey]

I don't like the usb c port version. It puts pressure on usb c port. No, I'm not talking about the telescopic part. I'm talking about the force parallel to the spring, force towards the USB-C port.

[@GameTechTalk]

Right, honestly, I thought I was going to be like: "BT is cool but I'm still sticking to USB-C primarily" but nope, not at all what happened!

[@TechRide.]

Can you please test if Steamlink app works with this controller using iOS device? thanks in advance!

[@GameTechTalk]

Yup, tested and it worked without issue.

[@TechRide.]

@@GameTechTalk perfect! thank you!

[@JamDuckJones]

The 5 Volts runs through the Springs on Garolio G8 Plus 😂😂😂

[@GameTechTalk]

Wait really? Cause it does flash if you connect it while expanded, but are you saying the other side battery is still getting juice even then? Haven’t had time to look this deep tbh!

[@PSN9695]

So I was wondering for iPhone 13 would I be able to do controller support on Genshin Impact? Or no?

[@GameTechTalk]

Yes you will as Genshin Impact has native controller support on iOS. Cheers! :)

[@TuPhonez4Free]

Good review

[@GameTechTalk]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

[@TuPhonez4Free]

@@GameTechTalk no problem

[@XXITOFFICIAL]

The only problem I see with this product is that I won’t be able to charge and play like the normal g8

[@GameTechTalk]

Indeed, power management can be a whole endeavour if daily driving that one, but you do get advantages in exchange. You should check out my Abxylute S9 review, might be the controller you’re looking for.

[@thicc_square7876]

Is the G8+ the same size/dimension as the G8? I wanna buy a G8 case to use on my G8+ if it’s compatible

[@GameTechTalk]

The grips and middle bars are but when closed, the G8+ is actually wider.

[@thicc_square7876]

@@GameTechTalk ah as figured, it did looked a little wider in the video but wasn’t sure. I guess I’ll wait for cases made specifically for G8+ On a side note, thanks to this video, the G8+ is my very first mobile controller bought from Gamesir and I love it! Thanks for the recommendation🙏

[@GameTechTalk]

@@thicc_square7876 Pleasure is all mine! Cheers :)

[@243ralliart]

Which extreme rate stick did you use? Thanks!

[@GameTechTalk]

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[@racohyts3673]

Hey bro do you have any idea how to get my g8+ g-touch mode to work on the app so I can map the games I try switch mode but it wont connect to the bluetooth

[@GameTechTalk]

So, what I picked up over time is that whenever you connect the Switch mode, there is another mode that appears that will be called G8+ in your bluetooth signals. That is the one that needs to be connected for the app to let you modify the controller. In some scenarios, the app will connect you there itself but it is not always 100% working it seems.

[@asthedaysgoneby]

I'd love to buy this as a controller for PS Remote Play. Hows the latency for you?

[@GameTechTalk]

Amazing! At 20:02 what you see on average column? So that's 2ms on Switch mode average, that is IMPECCABLE performance. It's bluetooth so you do have the occasional jitter which explains the all time highest recorded of 22ms but that is basically unimpactful as the polling rate is 500hz and more of an anomaly that happens every now and then (but can't be felt due to overall performance). It speaks at record times to the device to be honest.

[@marcflores3503]

Will this controller work with the Legion Go?

[@GameTechTalk]

It does yes, however, I wouldn't confidently sit the Legion Go in it, not without some kind of modification to increase the hold on the Go. The curves edges makes it slip out otherwise.

[@ArunVikram-sh6xo]

Is it possible to buy G8+ online? Which website is the most reliable?

[@GameTechTalk]

Yes it is, Amazon or GameSir's own website but hold off for my public post, I got an announcement coming!

[@awesghulam]

Will ths lenovo Go tablet fit in this controller?

[@GameTechTalk]

It does but because of the angled corners, it’s not a solution I’d turn to. The last thing I’d want is for my Legion Go to do a nosedive. But under controlled environment, it’s definitely feasible.

[@tim.fletcher]

There's not enough of a narrow handle at the bottom of each grip to hold on with your ring and pinky fingers. The right stick is too close to the right thumb. If the handles of the controller and placement of the right stick were similar to the 8bitdo Ultimate or Switch Pro controller, this would be a lot more comfortable. Unfortunately, it's a heavy, expensive discomfort and let-down. If I could return it for a refund, I would.

[@GameTechTalk]

Sorry to hear, and clearly grip is and would always be subjective. I had a great dislike for the 8BitDo Ultimate when I originally bought it nearly 2 years ago. I am about to revisit it in fact hoping my opinion changed.